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aargon
08-15-2007, 11:42 AM
Dam its hot!

Each morning I step out of my refridgerated apartment to go to work and the heat at 8:15am always hits me with a welcome smack of sweat. Actually been in Tokyo now for 3 years, and its only this year where i have started using the air con at night. Honest to god not sure how i managed to survive the last two summers with just a fan.

What do you guys think? is it hot enough for you?

Although i have to admit, the eye candy is pretty dam good to look at in summer. thumbs up to that.

Bring on the beach bikini skeletons i say!
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blank slate
08-15-2007, 01:51 PM
Mind giving us the actual temperature (in Fahrenheit please)?

six-eight-ten
08-15-2007, 01:57 PM
I was in Tokyo/Yokohama over the last few days. It was up to at least 39 C or (39 x 9/5 + 32=) 102.2 F, plus the effects of humidity, when I was walking by a couple signs that showed the temp.

The beaches had some nice views.

Intense
08-15-2007, 02:37 PM
39 deg that's not THAT hot. Aussie summers are generally weeks on end of 40+ degree and even that is tollerable. It's a dry heat but you feel it. Didn't stop me from working.

six-eight-ten
08-15-2007, 03:23 PM
Depends on where you're from, I guess. I don't think the -20 C winters are that cold in Hokkaido.

The 39 C with over 80% (probably in the 90% range) humidity didn't stop me from walking all over the place, but my shirt was usually soaking wet.

koku
08-15-2007, 03:57 PM
Do people still not wear shorts even in that weather?

I would.

SlickWilly440
08-15-2007, 06:28 PM
The beaches had some nice views.

Of what women?

Roxie
08-15-2007, 06:44 PM
it's 102 here. 26% humidity

SlickWilly440
08-15-2007, 07:14 PM
You know what they say, "When in heat, beat you meat!"

JapaneseLever
08-15-2007, 07:14 PM
heat is not so bad. humidity is a bitch.
im in my apartment with no means of cooling myself other than this little ass fan. it gets so hot in here that it's actually cooler when I step outside. That sucks. I find myself going to rest in** a restaurant or starbucks of something just to get some AC.

**an earthquake just came right when i was typing this part... wobbly

gentlemanandscholar
08-15-2007, 07:31 PM
This is where undershirts are your friend (if you're working and confined to a suit),
or just whip out the muscle shirts... whether you have muscle or not.

Hatsumomo
08-15-2007, 08:26 PM
Can't do that at my job. We not only have to wear the thick maroon/black polo shirts, but we have to wear a white shirt underneath*. And they haven't bothered to fix the air conditioning that has been broken since May. At least the heat wave we had finally broke. It was past 100 for several days. Including inside the theater lobby where all of us poor saps work.


*Supposed to, but I don't do it. Too damn hot. The GM hasn't gotten on my case about it and I see and talk to him all the time.

PopCulturePooka
08-15-2007, 09:18 PM
39 deg that's not THAT hot. Aussie summers are generally weeks on end of 40+ degree and even that is tollerable. It's a dry heat but you feel it. Didn't stop me from working.
Where the sam fuck in Australia do you live?

Brisbane gets mid 30's during a hot summer!

koku
08-15-2007, 09:19 PM
do people wear shorts? someone told me long long ago people don't because it doesn't look nice enough or something I don't remember any people where shorts but that could just be my memory.

PopCulturePooka
08-15-2007, 09:40 PM
do people wear shorts? someone told me long long ago people don't because it doesn't look nice enough or something I don't remember any people where shorts but that could just be my memory.
Do you mean in Japan?

WTF are you toking?

Heaps of people wear shorts. I did a lot in summer and so did other younger (<30) Japanese people. I mean sure its not something they wear to work, but everywhere else?

We actually had this student who was a BIG guy, played Rugby. And he's wear Rugby shorts all the time. And excite the female students. Great guy, drank like a fish.

TommyA
08-15-2007, 11:57 PM
Nagoya gets a bit more humid than Tokyo, by far! I am dying here. Girl and I went to play badminton and catch for like 20 minutes, and we were sweating like pigs...at 6PM!!!

Intense
08-16-2007, 01:27 AM
Where the sam fuck in Australia do you live?

Brisbane gets mid 30's during a hot summer!

Beleive it or not but Melbourne. Last few summers have been a bit freaky. A few weeks of intense heat followed by something a bit milder, then right back into it.

Pierrot le Fou
08-16-2007, 01:40 AM
Anyone who says it isn't hot in Japan can drink the drippings of my sweaty ballsack (http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/local/JAXX0047?from=search_city).

Feels like 106 degrees farenheit. Tokyo's only at 102.

Kyoto is the sweaty-ball capital of the world. I taught there for three fucking years with runty little chilluns and 40 degree heat with no fucking air conditioning.

All you fuckers saying "Oh, it's not that bad!" when comparing to dry heat or lower temps, fuck off! You have no idea! When it's dry heat, sweat evaporates, cooling your body. When it's humid as fuck, the sweat just drips, it doesn't condense, and it makes you even hotter and stickier.

So once you understand basic thermodynamics you arrogant cool-place living shitheads, then you can discuss the weather.

In the meantime, I'm going to wring my drawers into a super-soaker and hunt down you folks with the demon-sweat exuding from every pore on my sizeable ass.

Plekto
08-16-2007, 01:45 AM
I understand. I visited relatives last week in Illinois. 101 and 90% humidity.

SO glad to be back in 100 degree and 20% humidity California.

All-American Alfonse
08-16-2007, 01:45 AM
12 days ago I moved here from London, which was about 22-23 deg c. Kanagawa today is 36 deg c. Here are 3 words that describe how I feel:

FUCK

THAT

SHIT

I'm boiling myself to death every time I step out of the door. Roll on October.

Black fist
08-16-2007, 02:03 AM
Texas is being bitchy with the heat. It'll be 90 something but so god damn humid it feels like 100 and tis in the morning. Afternoon it just a straight 103 with it feeling like 109 plus a football helmet makes blackfist want to piss on himself hoping that some wind will hit it and cool him off by a little bit.

Hatsumomo
08-16-2007, 02:21 AM
Nagoya gets a bit more humid than Tokyo, by far! I am dying here. Girl and I went to play badminton and catch for like 20 minutes, and we were sweating like pigs...at 6PM!!!


Oh, God. I was in Nagoya last summer and the humidity compounded upon the heat was brutal. I was peeling my clothes off of me by the end of the day.

Pierrot le Fou
08-16-2007, 02:23 AM
Kyoto is hotter than Tokyo. Kyoto is worse than Nagoya. Kyoto is Hell.

If you even pretend that you have it worse than I do, I will toss you in a sauna with 40 sumo wrestlers, and tell them that you're the one who made all the yaocho allegations.

koku
08-16-2007, 04:53 AM
Noooooooooooooooooo. This is horrible f'n news. I'll be in Osaka next week. :box:

I'll get to sweat in my new clothes. Yipee.

Azrael
08-16-2007, 05:07 AM
Kyoto is hotter than Tokyo. Kyoto is worse than Nagoya. Kyoto is Hell.

If you even pretend that you have it worse than I do, I will toss you in a sauna with 40 sumo wrestlers, and tell them that you're the one who made all the yaocho allegations.
At least you don't live in Kyoto anymore. ...And with a girlfriend who is fundamentally opposed to air conditioning. I swear to GOD, she's not human, she can't be.

This year seems to be a lot worse than last year. Last year I remember thinking it wasn't that bad. This year...I just want to die everytime I leave my house.

Pierrot le Fou
08-16-2007, 05:21 AM
It is now 100 degrees in Kyoto (http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/local/JAXX0047?from=search_city) -- feels like 117!

Awesome!

At least it's only 47% humidity...

koku
08-16-2007, 05:24 AM
Ya know, I'm supposed to leave MN for better weather. It's 73 right now.

What the shit is this? Florida better be fun. :bored:

Azrael
08-16-2007, 05:58 AM
This is the part of the year I like to think of as "God is trying to bring Japan down".

First, an earthquake shakes everybody up. Then the typhoons come and try to either blow us all away, drown us, or both. If we're still left standing after that, then on comes the merciless heat to fry whoever's left. If you survive this three-pronged offense, you get to have your nuts freezed off in the winter.

Four seasons indeed.

Pierrot le Fou
08-16-2007, 06:39 AM
Your nuts FROZEN off in winter.

And you call yourself an English major? Shame shame.

(It's not much better than Kyoto here, which is to say it's about 800 times more tolerable)

phenyl
08-16-2007, 06:51 AM
Ah, and only two microseconds each of spring and autumn, where the temperatures are between 17 and 25 degrees C...

I was in Kobe and Kyoto the weekend before last, and PLF is totally right.
Here, it's only such that the temperature in my apartment is >>30 degrees C after midnight, which makes me switch on the aircon to sleep. Can't wait for the electricity bill though, next month I will subsist on Water and rice (or bread which is cheaper ;-) )

I could restart my rant about the bad insulation of Japanese homes, single paned glass windows with aluminum frames (only slightly worse a conductor of heat than copper), thin walls and so on, but then I'd get accused of being in phase 2 of culture shock.
(However, in totally unrelated news, Japan will fail to achieve the Kyoto-protocol requirements. hmm, I wonder if a bit better isolation of homes and workplaces and less need to cool(summer) or heat(winter) could help with that?)

Pierrot le Fou
08-16-2007, 07:13 AM
Three things would greatly reduce the amount of greenhouse gas emissions in Japan: From this point forward, all houses must have insulation
The absurdity of this has been pointed out. While having single-room air conditioners is energy efficient, having a house which leaks heat in the winter, and leaks cool in the summer is nonsense. Force the construction companies to start tossing insulation in new houses and herald the joyous reduction in consumption.
Daylight Savings Time
When the sun comes up at 4:30am in the summer, and everyone is asleep, you're taking away an hour or two of good daylight to be had in the evening. We all know how many neon lights Japan utilizes, so those couple hours multiplied by all the pachinko parlors in all the land will amount to a gazillion jigawatts of energy.
Staggered vacations
With the Obon season behind us, I have to ask, "Why the fuck?" The amount of cars on the road creates 50+km traffic jams which could easily be solved by staggering vacations. Ditto for Golden Week, School vacations, and New Years. The fact that every single fucking company gives vacation on the same days strikes me as sheer idiocy, and I can't find a good reason for it.
These three things, if enacted, will help greatly. But they won't be.

phenyl
08-16-2007, 07:38 AM
Three things would greatly reduce the amount of greenhouse gas emissions in Japan:[list] From this point forward, all houses must have insulation
The absurdity of this has been pointed out. While having single-room air conditioners is energy efficient, having a house which leaks heat in the winter, and leaks cool in the summer is nonsense. Force the construction companies to start tossing insulation in new houses and herald the joyous reduction in consumption.
Daylight Savings Time



Word!
Insulation in the houses won't happen also, because then the housing companies would actually need to build the houses correctly. I am amazed how fast they pulled up a house here, it felt like two weeks from flattening the ground to pulling up the steel-H-beams to filling in the cardboard-walls.
Correctly built houses need not be rebuilt every twenty years, which would take away a lot of (guaranteed) profit.
(You'd think the building companies have enough guaranteed income with the maglev-Shinkansen to be built by 2025 though).
In Kobe, I met some fellow Swiss living in the Kansai Area and they said, that if you wanted to build a home, stable, well insulated,... that you can get the materials, but they would cost two or three times more than the bad standard stuff which is normally in use.

DST, anyways, they could shift about two time zones to the west, what is the use of sunlight at five in the morning...

erbiumfiber
08-16-2007, 07:53 AM
I am not going to complain about the heat. It did not break 30 until after August 1st in Tokyo. In Virginia (DC metro area) it had been hot since May or June. I can deal with summer if it only lasts about 5 weeks. With the rainy season, Japan doesn't know what summer is. Go to any U.S. southern state. I guarantee it will be much, much worse (Texas, anyone?).

Since I now ride my bicycle to the station, I find I'm not as sweaty because of the airflow. That's another thing. In Virginia, the air hardly moves in the summer. Here in Tokyo, there's usually a good breeze going. It does help dry the sweat and cool you down a bit. Also, it gets down to a decent temperature at night. I have been in VA where it's 90 degrees at 10PM. You just don't seem to have that here.

Also this summer doesn't seem to be that humid (following the rainy season). As I ride home, I can clearly see the outlines of the mountains and sometimes even Mt. Fuji. And my clothes dried pretty quickly last weekend.

So, yeah, it's hot, it sucks but it's only for a few weeks. Plus I'm living in a newish (8 years old) apartment. When I get home, it's usually about 27 inside (after using the AC at night). Not bad. Maybe there's actually some insulation in my building.

ミュー
08-16-2007, 09:57 AM
I went to Kamakura today to see a certain Daibutsu and it had mega-morphed into a five story kiln by noon :knockout:

Weather forecast for Tokyo, Japan
101 degrees
feels like: being bludgeoned by John Holmes's sizeable manhood
81% chance of instant fatality
set aircon to: 17 degress and tell TEPCO to shove it

Weather forecast for Kyoto, Japan
110 degrees
feels like: 6th circle of hell on a Monday
110% chance of heat-induced insanity
set aircon to: 'witches teat' mode and wait for October

six-eight-ten
08-16-2007, 10:18 AM
I went to Kamakura on Tuesday. There was no way I was going inside that giant, crowded oven. I did take some Godzilla pictures (http://www.flickr.com/photos/green-saber/sets/72157594217081737/)there, though.

mikem
08-16-2007, 11:33 AM
Heaps of people wear shorts. I did a lot in summer and so did other younger (<30) Japanese people. I mean sure its not something they wear to work, but everywhere else?

If you compare Tokyo to anywhere in America then pretty much no one here wears shorts. However, there's still plenty of people wearing them.

Girls seem to wear shorts and stuff a lot more than guys though. Girls have all the fashionable short-shorts, short pants, skirts, etc. Usually when guys wear any sort of sorts their whole fashion style is slightly above bum.

(I did see a guy on the train today with shorts and a scraped up knee. It was pretty fresh too cause it was still that bright red color that actually looks fake.)

TommyA
08-16-2007, 12:51 PM
Az I gotta send a telepathic Double You Eff Tee to your girl for being anti-AC. My girl keeps the shit on when she is home alone, and when I get to the point of freezing in our apartment, and turn it off, I wake up hours later with a sore dry throat, freezing, and a girl stretched out with the AC blowing right at her.

You should get a fan and point it at just you!

Knife-Fingered Sue Sanderson
08-16-2007, 01:30 PM
Three things would greatly reduce the amount of greenhouse gas emissions in Japan: From this point forward, all houses must have insulation
The absurdity of this has been pointed out. While having single-room air conditioners is energy efficient, having a house which leaks heat in the winter, and leaks cool in the summer is nonsense. Force the construction companies to start tossing insulation in new houses and herald the joyous reduction in consumption.
Daylight Savings Time
When the sun comes up at 4:30am in the summer, and everyone is asleep, you're taking away an hour or two of good daylight to be had in the evening. We all know how many neon lights Japan utilizes, so those couple hours multiplied by all the pachinko parlors in all the land will amount to a gazillion jigawatts of energy.
Staggered vacations
With the Obon season behind us, I have to ask, "Why the fuck?" The amount of cars on the road creates 50+km traffic jams which could easily be solved by staggering vacations. Ditto for Golden Week, School vacations, and New Years. The fact that every single fucking company gives vacation on the same days strikes me as sheer idiocy, and I can't find a good reason for it.
These three things, if enacted, will help greatly. But they won't be.


I am with you 100% on the insulation. The family I was staying with in Hiroshima thought heaters were a waste - "Just take a bath, it'll make you warmer!" was the solution for "I can see my breath in my room." They would then look at me confused and say "You're from Wisconsin, and it gets much colder there. You should be used to the cold."

They just don't understand that houses are supposed to protect you from ALL the elements, including temperature.

Digital Masta
08-16-2007, 01:40 PM
Yeah...it's hot as balls...the humidity is what kills me...although it does get humid as fuck in New Jersey too but this is ridiculous...and I'm going to Kyushu next week...YEAH!

Trump
08-16-2007, 03:08 PM
Meh, I feel like I've seen this thread before... like about a year ago.

Is it bad that I don't think it is that hot right now and the average high is 96 (110 heat index). I've lived here too long. Don't get me wrong, I blast the AC everywhere I can though. And it is like I have accepted sweat as a fashion accessory. Ah well heh.

Plekto
08-16-2007, 04:12 PM
"You're from Wisconsin, and it gets much colder there. You should be used to the cold."
****
"Yes, but my house in Wisconsin has four inches of insulation, so I only need to wear a jacket when I go outside"

Actually, there is another option, though. There are a few companies in Japan that make log homes. No, not Abe Lincoln cabin. Proper stuff that you'd see in a mountain resort. Tough as a rock, naturally insulated, and actually pretty inexpensive to build.

Geodesic designs are also a great low-cost alternative. I've heard of properly built ones surviving direct hits by tornados. Loads of interior space as well.

Knife-Fingered Sue Sanderson
08-16-2007, 04:41 PM
"You're from Wisconsin, and it gets much colder there. You should be used to the cold."
****
"Yes, but my house in Wisconsin has four inches of insulation, so I only need to wear a jacket when I go outside"


...and central heating :)

Saw this picture today. Note to self: don't go to the pool when it's hot.

http://www.japantoday.com/news/jp/dbfiles/picture/D73L2.jpg
The indoor wave pool area at Tokyo Summerland in Hachioji.

Hatsumomo
08-16-2007, 04:44 PM
I am not going to complain about the heat. It did not break 30 until after August 1st in Tokyo. In Virginia (DC metro area) it had been hot since May or June. I can deal with summer if it only lasts about 5 weeks. With the rainy season, Japan doesn't know what summer is. Go to any U.S. southern state. I guarantee it will be much, much worse (Texas, anyone?).

Since I now ride my bicycle to the station, I find I'm not as sweaty because of the airflow. That's another thing. In Virginia, the air hardly moves in the summer. Here in Tokyo, there's usually a good breeze going. It does help dry the sweat and cool you down a bit. Also, it gets down to a decent temperature at night. I have been in VA where it's 90 degrees at 10PM. You just don't seem to have that here.

That's the thing I hate most here. The stagnant air. Not to mention the budget cuts took out road cleaning so you have animal corpses rotting on the streets, severely stinking up the air.

At least we finally are getting some storms and the weather's supposed to cool down. Of course, it could backfire horribly and just up the humidity. Pray for wind.



Saw this picture today. Note to self: don't go to the pool when it's hot.

http://www.japantoday.com/news/jp/dbfiles/picture/D73L2.jpg
The indoor wave pool area at Tokyo Summerland in Hachioji.

Well, hell. Doesn't that defeat the purpose? Now you're just in warm water with people's body heat making you hotter.

Plekto
08-16-2007, 04:55 PM
Where's the water?

悲しいパンダ
08-16-2007, 05:33 PM
I can't image what would happen if someone was to "go", in the pool. Also, if your in the middle, how the hell are you suppose to get out of the pool?

Roxie
08-16-2007, 06:13 PM
we get breezes...but it's like someone blowing their breath on you. They don't help. I figure this is what it must be like in the desert. HOT WINDS

koku
08-16-2007, 06:19 PM
when does the weather usually peak? by when does it usually cool off?

please tell me August. *crosses fingers*

Danistar
08-16-2007, 09:17 PM
At least you don't live in Kyoto anymore. ...And with a girlfriend who is fundamentally opposed to air conditioning. I swear to GOD, she's not human, she can't be.

This year seems to be a lot worse than last year. Last year I remember thinking it wasn't that bad. This year...I just want to die everytime I leave my house.
Opposed to AC? What?

Pierrot le Fou
08-16-2007, 10:06 PM
Kyoto is devoid of wind. It's surrounded by mountains. Nara is the same way. This is bad. It hurts.

Hot dry wind is better than no wind, which is better than sticky weather and no wind.

Dry weather means you sweat and it evaporates, cooling you.

Simple thermodynamics!

gentlemanandscholar
08-17-2007, 02:13 AM
Kyoto is devoid of wind. It's surrounded by mountains. Nara is the same way. This is bad. It hurts.

Hot dry wind is better than no wind, which is better than sticky weather and no wind.

Dry weather means you sweat and it evaporates, cooling you.

Simple thermodynamics!

Yes, yes, you're suffering more than anyone. Got it :whoops:

Actually, I beat you. I work in a greenhouse with inside temperatures of 40C and up, with probably the highest humidity you could get without having to swim. That all ends soon but, I can't even wear a shirt at my work anymore it's so disgusting. Breathing ends up becoming a task :knockout:

Pierrot le Fou
08-17-2007, 02:20 AM
You CHOOSE to work in a greenhouse. Indeed. That's your own fault. This country is a fucking greenhouse right now. While I can choose to leave, it's a Hell of a lot harder than just finding another job.

(I don't even live in Kyoto anymore, but it's still hot here - 88 degrees with 70% humidity today)

And anyway. Fuck you all. I suffer. Feel my pain. I'm the victim. Don't make me pull out the A-Bomb card you righteous pricks.

mikem
08-17-2007, 04:41 AM
Also, if your in the middle, how the hell are you suppose to get out of the pool?

The same way you get out of the train in the morning ... 「すみません!おります!」 and then do the little "running man" hand-wave motion.

Ceirnian
08-17-2007, 05:51 AM
And anyway. Fuck you all. I suffer. Feel my pain. I'm the victim. Don't make me pull out the A-Bomb card you righteous pricks.
Go ahead, I have my counter ready.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/Gremin/Race_Card.jpg

Roxie
08-17-2007, 01:05 PM
How DARE you!!
That's not how you play the race card!

This is how (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RND2K4YrPNs) you play the race card..lames.

Vihis
08-17-2007, 01:57 PM
Pfffffffff ! Kyouto wasn't that last month and the beginning of August was quite comfortable as well.

THOUGH.. Now the thing's different. It's so m'f''n hot. I am currently located in Okayama and I don't want to go outside during the day. It's so freaking hot. The pool nearby is a lifesaver, totally.

I can't wait to get back to Kyõuto and Õsaka. Please prepare a hospital bed for me.

aargon
08-17-2007, 02:36 PM
I hate this weather.
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Plekto
08-17-2007, 03:40 PM
Go ahead, I have my counter ready.


Awesome! I'm going to copy that and glue it to a land card.

Are there others? I suspect that Goodman's Law would be one red and one black - kills the current argument. Instant, of course. :yes:

Roxie
08-18-2007, 03:08 PM
...and central heating :)

Saw this picture today. Note to self: don't go to the pool when it's hot.

http://www.japantoday.com/news/jp/dbfiles/picture/D73L2.jpg
The indoor wave pool area at Tokyo Summerland in Hachioji.
Here's a video of it. Where's the water? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inA-36YRV0Y)

gentlemanandscholar
08-18-2007, 03:32 PM
They're really lucky someone didn't drown there. That's a lifeguard's worst nightmare.

Nordri_dunkelalb
08-18-2007, 10:16 PM
I cant say much about it, becouse i havnīt been to tokyo so far and here in germany summer was skipped this jear, we decidet for a 6 month autumn instead.

But my advise would be:

Donīt wear any pants, a coll breeze and a nice tan down there are just some of the advantages that it would have, you also wouldnīt have to do your hair or shave, becouse nobody would look at your face anyway.

Vihis
08-19-2007, 02:13 PM
Here's a video of it. Where's the water? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inA-36YRV0Y)

How many people drowned ?

ParryDat
08-19-2007, 02:32 PM
Here's a video of it. Where's the water? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inA-36YRV0Y)

That is a gropers dream

Lea
08-23-2007, 11:43 PM
Japan sounds a little worse, but I was in Merida, Mexico a week ago. In the 90s with 80-90% humidity. Very sweaty. At least it rained in the evening with crazy tropical storms.

And that wave pool is horrifying. I want to scream just thinking about it. Ugh...