Naruto Shippuden (NO MANGA SPOILERS)

[Decade]

Necrofucking the subject again, no Manga spoilers this time please.

For anybody whose even bothered to anymore, I personally find the anime to be total, utter crap now.



After 2 years of bullshit filler, we finally get to the next chapter, only for them to make every episode move horribly slow with development. There's been at least 5 episodes restating the SAME reasoning and images of why Naruto is trying to save Gaara, entire episodes are wasted on literally a minutes worth of new information, and even the fight scenes are so horribly slow and poorly handled that they really are no more than a 5 minute fight without all the bullshit, stall for airtime, fluff they put in.


And it's heartwrenching. :gloomy:

Seriously, we already know they want to make a good gap between the manga and anime, but doing this format they're killing the anime off slowly but surely. There has already been 3 1-hour specials this year due to missing an episode one week, and this coming week will be at least the 4th time an episode wasnt run on a consecutive week since the series began.

Im really hoping the writers pull their act together soon and stop messing up the story. When you cant even have a decent fight scene in a single ep, you know the series is writing a recipe for self-destruction (the Guy vs. Kisame fight felt totally butchered, and I have no idea how the manga style went!)

:gloomy:

[Sock Full of Boiled Dimes]

I still hold onto my theory that they turned Naruto into another DBZ.

[Keoje]

Naruto's awesomeness died for me a long time ago ;( Now I <3 Darker than black, Kaze no stigma, Claymore and Sola.

Neways back on topic. I think the next few episodes will be interesting since Kakashi and the gang arrive where Akatsuki are doing the ritual. :D

[setrict]

Hey, atleast it doesn't have a 4 minute long opening, followed by a 2-5 minute recap every freaking episode. (I'm glaring at you One Piece). :eyepop:

[Micah the Great]

Yeah, i have a problem reading ahead. I really don't think Shippuden is gonna be like the original. So far at least, it's been much more serious. My only problem is it still seems like it's going a bit slow and is a little to drawn out. At least there's more of a story, instead of Naruto just being a dumb ass all the time.

17 is out, Akatsuki finished the technique. There's supposed to be a good fight and Kakashi is supposed to do a badass move. I don't think that counts as a spoiler. =)

[Televisions_Nick]

Yeah, I hate stuff when it becomes popular too.

[Masa the Masta]

Hey, atleast it doesn't have a 4 minute long opening, followed by a 2-5 minute recap every freaking episode. (I'm glaring at you One Piece). :eyepop:

Naruto sucks.

[Digital Masta]

Hey, atleast it doesn't have a 4 minute long opening, followed by a 2-5 minute recap every freaking episode. (I'm glaring at you One Piece). :eyepop:

Go read the One Piece manga.


I've stopped watching Shippuden I've come to the realization that the fights are badly animated...the whole Itachi/Kisame thing looked terrible and despite having 2 years of filler they still waste so much damn time.

I'll stick with the manga.

[Decade]

Honestly?

If things dont improve for the rest of this arc, or at least for the beginning of the next, I'm dumping the anime and just reading the manga myself.

It's BRUTAL to watch these eps now. Did you see ep 17 yet?


WHAT THE FUCK?!?! WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU WASTING ANOTHER EP ON SHIT YOU ALREADY BEEN WASTING EPS ON FOR AT LEAST 4 EPISODES?!?! :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

I fucking hate the new style its taken

[Lea]

I've only seen a few episodes of Naruto, and I hated it. Every episode was so dramatic! They would be in the middle of a fight and have 2592953 flash backs. So that would cause the big fight to drag on for several episodes. Omfg. I nearly went insane watching!

And then a year or so later, I saw the dub on Cartoon Network... MAJOR LULZ! They raped that anime and made it even worse than it already was.

[Daishikaze]

Heres the thing with Naruto, most of the people I know who watch it only watch because they like the manga. Why watch the show at all is my question? If the manga is so much better and the Anime writers are screwing around, why not just stick with the manga and stop wasting your time (and money for those buying the DVDs) watching the show?

Seriously, Why? Why torture yourselves? Has the term anime fan suddenly become synonymous with Masochist? (and to some people who I'm sure will say something about how it always has been, just shush, we know you hate anime, so stop talking about it at all)

[Kal]

Sometimes it's nice seeing the manga come alive in Anime form.

[Decade]

Only when they dont make the finished product something that MAKES you want to toss lit matches into your eyes :bang:

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

DBZ spawned 3 children:

Luffy: The Pirate
Naruto: The Ninja
Ichigo: The Cloud FFVII Wannabe

Inu-Yasha's like the adopted one, but fuck that shit.

[Televisions_Nick]

DBZ spawned 3 children:

Luffy: The Pirate
Naruto: The Ninja
Ichigo: The Cloud FFVII Wannabe

Inu-Yasha's like the adopted one, but fuck that shit.

Um, pretty much every manga made for boys since Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z was influenced by Dragon Ball Z, especially those that started in the 1990s and early 2000s because the creators of those manga were 11/12 years old when Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z were in their hey day. Everybody read Dragon Ball Z. If you're using it as a pejorative you're just being silly. Like saying "it's like Star Wars" as a pejorative.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

What I meant to say that DBZ spawned three different series that has the traits similar to it:

-Aimed at youths
-Stretched out episodes compared to the manga(s)
-Stretched out fight scenes
-No sense of an impeding ending
-Goals that would take a lifetime, hence why the storylines are so long (Goku becoming the best fighter, Luffy wanting to be Pirate King, Naruto as the Hokage, etc)

[Micah the Great]

^Ha.. i guess that's kinda true.

[Daishikaze]

A manga in anime form is only worth it if it does the source material justice, which as far as I can tell, Naruto has never done since from the beginning people have been complaining that its nowhere near as good as the manga. They complain but they don't stop watching, failing to realize that if they don't watch it, then the makers will realize something is wrong and possibly fix the problem. Instead they continue to watch as it slips further and further and low and behold you wind up with a couple of years worth of filler that leads to nothing.

Now fillers are over and people still aren't happy with the show, Why do y'all continue to watch it if its unsatisfactory?

Why do people willingly torture themselves when they could just walk away instead of clinging to the vain hope that the show will get better? Even if it does get better, think of all the time you wasted on it before it got to that point. Its just not worth it is it?

They need to get back to shounen shows with goals that don't take the characters whole life to achieve, because these new ones waste far too much time getting nothing done.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

Long live Azumanga Daioh! Long live Seinfelds of anime!

[Decade]

Agree with Dai, money has obviously become overly important in that making of these shows.

And its the quality that suffers.

[Daishikaze]

Money has always been a big factor, but no I don't think its the sole reason for the lack of quality. Many of the old Hands (writers and whatnot) of this business (anime and Manga)don't really have much to do with it anymore, and alot of the youngsters taking their places are of the Otaku generation, and what these people want to do is fit in as much of everything they possibly can in a series rather than telling a good story.

They want cool action, tons of laughs, romance, teenage angst, Emo Villains, and homages to all their old and current favorites (more current than old these days) all in one show. They want to pack as much of these elements into an episode as possible, and sure people like it, but seriously its a mess. Because most shows fit all that stuff in, but they are severely lacking where it counts. And do the Fans care? Apparently not, because they still soldier on and buy whatever these guys put out, whether they'll actually watch it again once they have it all or not.

Its basically a combination being only in it for the money and the inability to write a focused, coherent show thats really hurting the industry right now. I see things only getting worse as years go by, since more and more of the old guard are walking away from Anime, or only working on Manga.

[Digital Masta]

What I meant to say that DBZ spawned three different series that has the traits similar to it:

-Aimed at youths
-Stretched out episodes compared to the manga(s)
-Stretched out fight scenes
-No sense of an impeding ending
-Goals that would take a lifetime, hence why the storylines are so long (Goku becoming the best fighter, Luffy wanting to be Pirate King, Naruto as the Hokage, etc)

We like to call that the Shounen genre...and Goku never actually set out a goal to be the best fighter he just kinda ended up being it.

[Masa the Masta]

What I meant to say that DBZ spawned three different series that has the traits similar to it:

-Aimed at youths
-Stretched out episodes compared to the manga(s)
-Stretched out fight scenes
-No sense of an impeding ending
-Goals that would take a lifetime, hence why the storylines are so long (Goku becoming the best fighter, Luffy wanting to be Pirate King, Naruto as the Hokage, etc)

For one, that "charging your ki" for five episodes is pretty much gone from the shows. If there's anything to blame about anime having stretched out episodes, I just blame studios for wanting to milk a show for what its worth. Technically DBZ was supposed to end at the Freeza saga, but people forced Akira Toriyama to keep going.

I blame fight scenes for stretching out for these elements.
- Flashbacks
- "Charge up" time.
- Explaining everything.
- Fancy backgrounds.
- Dialogue interrupting the fight, or detracting to something else.

You just answered yourself though, which is funny. Some series have a direct impending ending like in One Piece or Naruto when the main character announces what they wanna be.

Personally I find Pirate King as a cooler goal than Hokage. Get to run a village? Big fuckin' deal, being Pirate King..you own the mo'fuggen WORLD son.



Also, it's true that an assload of shonen manga lately is influenced by DBZ. Though I think Luffy is a lot closer to Goku than Naruto is.



My only complaint if anything about Naruto is that as the series progressed, Naruto loses more and more of his personality and becomes much more single minded. Some people could see this as "maturing", but I think Kishimoto is losing Naruto's feel.

With Luffy, there's a broader spectrum of personality to him. While One Piece gets serious at times, it never loses its comedic aspect, while being capable of having drama, seriousness and sadness when its appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzzunoQyXAE

Joining a crew. Serious business.

[Digital Masta]

Also, it's true that an assload of shonen manga lately is influenced by DBZ. Though I think Luffy is a lot closer to Goku than Naruto is.

Luffy is almost exactly the same as Goku, but thats to be expected seeing as Oda worships the very ground the Toriyama walks on.

Oh and BTW...Luffy?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/taleran/021.jpg

[Masa the Masta]

Oh and BTW...Luffy?



Nope, but this is Luffy.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9470/3366402123454loui1by4.jpg


This thread is now about One Piece. Post your motherfucking One Piece!

[Dresh]

You know what Goku and Luffy have most in common? They both have extendable rods. ;)

[Masa the Masta]

Oda said *every* part on Luffy's body stretches. Even that.

[Dresh]

I think I remember reading that, I can't say it surprises me though as it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if he couldn't.

Wow, I just realized that Luffy's immune to being kicked in the family jewels... that's awesome.