Can you help me with my Psychology assignment please?

[pangloss]

It's only 4 questions.
It was originally Pdf format but I had to copy it as txt because it's too large to attach otherwise.

I need at least 10 or more participants and I'm trying to get roughly the same number of male and female participants.

As before, you can PM me you answers to provide annonymity.

Thanks in advance to all who participate! :innocent:

[雨]

Male.
140.
90.
100.

[riona]

Female.
140.
120.
90.

[japanat]

Male
140
110
150

[Rear Admiral Grapefruit]

Damn, you all seem to be either really intelligent or overestimate yourselves!
I wasn't sure so I googled a couple of shitty IQ things and going with the average (ok i could only be arsed doing two :P)

Male
130
130
100

[Candyvan Stan]

Male
140 (142, official test)
110
(Real father; no idea - might be rather high)
(Stepfather; 80)

[羽之助]

Male
140
120
140

[Stephy]

Female
110
not sure.
130

[h2orowe]

Male.
130 (135 ;) But who's counting.)
0.. just kidding :P 90
120

[Y.T.]

Male
I'd estimate mine to be ~120 //Edit {
Took this test: http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf
Had a score of 118.
}
Father: ~130 ( masters' in EE)
Mother: ~120 (I think my mother also has an Ph.D in medicine)
___________________________________________

Very curious, how many of you think your IQ is 140.
(Myself, I think it's more likely to lie between 100-125) .. unless you are really sure you belong to the top 1% smartest people. Hardly possible.
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/aencmed/targets/illus/cha/T059365A.gif

Personally, I think IQ is bullshit.
It measures how good you are in taking IQ tests, nothing more.
I think this because of first hand, anecdotal evidence.
My father's colleague, a mathematician working as a programmer measured his IQ, discovered it to be in the region of 120-130. Then he started solving lots of
similar tests. H e measured his IQ after three months, and found it was 160.
He claimed he didn't feel smarter in any way.

I also knew a guy in the Scouts' who was hardly passing through vocational school, but was second to none in solving logical puzzles (like those in IQ tests). He didn't excel in anything else, mind you... not even mathematics.
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[Micah the Great]

male
130
90
130

[Lateli]

Female
140 (I got like 138 on the test I was given in school, and dammit, I WILL round up.)
120
<10, ok ok maybe 80? Less? Alcohol has destroyed his brain.

[Jetsetlemming]

Male.
150 (IQ test taken when I was 6, and then 10)
90
110 (I believe he used to be smarter, just wracked with problems. Decades of drugs and drinking has lowered this number)
(parents IQ are estimates. Almost assuredly tinted by bias against them)

[gentlemanandscholar]

Male
100
90
100

[gentlemanandscholar]

I think this is hilarious. OP9 is the new Mensa, it seems!

[Y.T.]

Heh.

I had no idea this board is crammed with so many people who are almost geniuses .. according to their stated IQ ..

This reminds me of the time there was a guy on this board who claimed to own about a 30 000$ worth of firearms, yet did not have enough money for a camera. Didn't even have a friend with one.

:D Though later on, I learned he also inherited a castle in Scotland.

[ryobreak]

Male
100
90
100
Jesus you just admitted how Japanese you've become.

[ryobreak]

Dear Ryo,
Your general IQ score is: 137

Supposedly mine is 137. :bored:

[RandomPasserby]

Male.
Over NINE THOUSAND!
Seriously, Objective iq test? When did they do one? And when did you expect people not to tell you an internet iq test score that has been round up? I get scores around 130-140 in those even when I know I'm totally sluggish at that moment.
Edit: again, when I have huge trouble with engineer math and physics and couldn't figure out anything but simplest of the simple logics in that test, 130. So they aren't really trustworthy.

[Lateli]

I think this is hilarious. OP9 is the new Mensa, it seems!

Mensa calendars are fun stuff. The teachers of my gifted class had them and would read us the questions/mysteries from it every class. I'd say we solved them pretty well for being 9.

"You're not smarter than anyone else, your clocks just tick faster."

[雨]

I think being surrounded by nincompoops on a daily basis makes my ostensible IQ a bit above average. I do, however, assume most of said nincompoops avoid any kind of test they don't feel they have to take. Much like myself (but probably unlike any intelligent friends/acquaintances I have).

[Jetsetlemming]

I cheated on that IQ test I took in third grade. :O I was supposed to stop at a specific point, cause they said a third grader couldn't do that stuff, but I had like 30 minutes left of my time after finishing the part they wanted me to do so I moved on and did the stuff I shouldn'tve. It was on geometry and radii and stuff like that, I did it intuitively and got most of them right, too.

[Comazon]

I bet this is actually a study to see how full of ourselves we really are. :P

Oh, well, I'll do it too.

1. Male
2. 130 (I took a bunch of those "IQ tests" online, and consistently ranked 125-130. I'm wondering how legit they truly are though.)
3. 100
4. 130

[4letterwords]

120 (122)
Smarter than I thought I was. But I'm good at taking tests. I don't trust shit like this though. I know that I'm smart but I don't think I'm that smart. Some people, lucky people, (like me) are good at taking tests.

[Candyvan Stan]

(I took a bunch of those "IQ tests" online, and consistently ranked 125-130. I'm wondering how legit they truly are though.

They aren't. In any way, shape or form.

[Comazon]

They aren't. In any way, shape or form.
That's what I thought. I'm pretty sure I'm over 180 easy. :liar:

Actually, I've always been skeptical about IQ tests as a whole, "legit" or otherwise... but I'll just shut up and stop derailing this thread. :blank:

[Soli]

Female
80 ('cause I still have a lot to learn!)
100
140

[Jetsetlemming]

Female
80 ('cause I still have a lot to learn!)
100
140
Your IQ isn't how much you know, it's how well you can think and problem solve. :P It's smarts, not knowledge.

[Soli]

Well, I still have a lot of smarts to get!

[RandomPasserby]

Your IQ isn't how much you know, it's how well you can think and problem solve. :P It's smarts, not knowledge.
In IQ tests it is about how much you know about problem solving strategies/methods as they are "find the logic"-type of problems.

[Candyvan Stan]

That's what I thought. I'm pretty sure I'm over 180 easy. :liar:

Actually, I've always been skeptical about IQ tests as a whole, "legit" or otherwise... but I'll just shut up and stop derailing this thread. :blank:

Personally, me too. And it's not really thread derailing since you're still on the topic of IQ. I have to admit, however, that I really find talking with people from mensa much more interesting than the average teenager I see at school.

[Jetsetlemming]

It's more of a test of how good you are at taking tests... just like most tests. :P

[gentlemanandscholar]

It's interesting how gender plays such a large role in this "test".
Most males believe they have a higher IQ than their mother and father, with their mother with the lowest of the 2,
and females believe they have a higher IQ as well, except the mother has a higher IQ than the father (this has fluctuated a lot).

There has been one case so far in which a male has believed his mother to be smarter than his father. The only other cases (on this board) that we have seen in which it is the opposite is when some external force has supposedly affected the brain of the parent (ie drugs).

I think one thing for sure to take out of this is that a lot of children have a superiority complex develop over their parents once they're teenage-20s (I'm assuming the age of all participants here).
This may be because most people in here probably have no idea as to what IQ actually measures.

[Lateli]

I suck at taking tests. (I think I over-analyze)

I wouldn't consider the IQ test I took a normal test though. I mean I take a test and it says, "Blahblahblahblah is WHAT?" Where as this test was "Blahblahblah is this, WHY?" If only more questions were like that..

Also I remember playing with triangles. The different sized triangles that are used to make a shape. I had to do like 50 of those. I can't remember what it's called though, been too long.

[Jetsetlemming]

It's interesting how gender plays such a large role in this "test".
Most males believe they have a higher IQ than their mother and father, with their mother with the lowest of the 2,
and females believe they have a higher IQ as well, except the mother has a higher IQ than the father (this has fluctuated a lot).

There has been one case so far in which a male has believed his mother to be smarter than his father. The only other cases (on this board) that we have seen in which it is the opposite is when some external force has supposedly affected the brain of the parent (ie drugs).

I think one thing for sure to take out of this is that a lot of children have a superiority complex develop over their parents once they're teenage-20s (I'm assuming the age of all participants here).
This may be because most people in here probably have no idea as to what IQ actually measures.
I've seen my dad act calm and reasonable and intelligent once or twice in my life. Mostly not, since he spends 23 of the hours of the day drunk and stoned, but once or twice.
My mom, I'm pretty sure, is brain damaged. :watson:

[Soli]

My mom's more smart on things like how to stop a baby from crying or how to blankets on a bed right.

My dad's more book smart.

[gentlemanandscholar]

I've seen my dad act calm and reasonable and intelligent once or twice in my life. Mostly not, since he spends 23 of the hours of the day drunk and stoned, but once or twice.
My mom, I'm pretty sure, is brain damaged. :watson:
Drunk and drugs does not mean his IQ is low, it just means he is a deadbeat. Some of the dumbest people I've known have had an IQ of 130 or higher. It just measures the logistical patterns your brain follows, really. This is why I say people don't know what IQ tests really are. They really don't measure our notion of intelligence anymore.

My mom's more smart on things like how to stop a baby from crying or how to blankets on a bed right.

My dad's more book smart.

This is an example. Intelligence as most of us see it, is relative. While someone may not be able to argue the finer points of the Golden Age of the Netherlands in the 17th Century with me having me dub them "stupid", they could be mathematical whizzes who are capable of even dividing by zero, where I can barely do long division.

This is why I hate IQ tests. It also gives a false sense of superiority to people, hence the "clubs" created based on a number that can't really measure anything accurately.

[Overkongen]

Male
150 (as stated in a few other posts, I am a member of mensa, so go figure.)
140 (She's smart, but says she's not smart enough for mensa. On the other hand, studies show that women have a tendency to rate themselves too low.)
130 (Dunno, this one is hard. I've written him on MSN sometimes, and he's awful at it. Also, when we moved to Kuwait for two years, he kept making the same language errors. On the other hand, he's awesome at putting his experiences in life to work, constantly improving himself. He is a man that I can learn so much from.)

Yeah, that there whole "OP9 average of 135 IQ" bugs me too. A lot of tests on teh internet are probably flawed, and rate you way too high, and ask you to pay more to get details. Not paying is a sign of intelligence, by the way.

135 is a high average. Still, I wouldn't be suprised to learn that most OP9'ers are smart, that's the impression I get from a lot of the discussions, anyway. Finally, a lot of them there unsmart peoples, is they not going to stay away from this thread?

Also, can we lift a ban on that there PopesomethingDarius? I'd like to hear where he thinks his IQ is.

[Jetsetlemming]

Drunk and drugs does not mean his IQ is low, it just means he is a deadbeat. Some of the dumbest people I've known have had an IQ of 130 or higher. It just measures the logistical patterns your brain follows, really. This is why I say people don't know what IQ tests really are. They really don't measure our notion of intelligence anymore.

No, that's just why it was rare for me to see him act sane and intelligent.

[Kwiz]

Male
120
80
90

[Plekto]

The proper IQ tests do a battery of about twenty(20!) different skill and physical areas. The last time I took one, I averaged about 160-170, with a top score of 192 in spatial relationships and 190 in abstract reasoning/lateral thinking.

Most people will get at least one area on such a edviation or so above their norm, though, though, so the average is more important.

So let's see...
Male
160-170(depends on the test, but I average about 160-170)
Don't know - was adopted. No clue about my past.

P.S. my worst area was 110 in math. I stink at manually grinding my way through problems.

Oh - about the curve you posted. It's rubbish because it has to e superimposed on a graph of functional intelligence. This skews the curve at least 20-30 points to the right.

Ie - an IQ of 70 is an abject moron(Forrest Gump) while an IQ of 130 is merely above average. One isn't special, while the other is "special" And the return on the extra at the top end isn't as useable as say, an extra 10 points at the bottom-end. The real graph would look closer to a sharp curve and then a plateau which slowly trails off - almost logarithmic at under 100 and a fatter bell curve at over 100.

[Neon Pink Shoehorn]

female
130
80
130

[Micah the Great]

I was gonna point out, the question read: "In relation to the average IQ score of 100, what do you estimate your IQ score would be, if you took one of the standard, objective IQ tests?"

Estimate your score IF you took one, so that doesn't necessarily mean your IQ score the last time you took one, considering your age is part of the IQ calculation. So, if you got a 160 five years ago, it'll proly be a bit different. (I'm not trying to be a smartass, just figured i'd point it out)

Also, i'm not sure if this is part of the purpose of the test, but if you notice, only 1 person has volunteered their guess/score that has been under 100 (the average). Smart, confident people are gonna post, but people who think or know their score would be below normal don't have much of an incentive to post. HA.. just a thought.

p.s.
Male.
Over NINE THOUSAND!
Thanks for that.. really.. lol.

[Lateli]

When comparing to the average IQ of 100 I would still give myself a 140. People don't think in the same manner as I think. I'm very impatient and don't have the time to run through loops trying to explain my thoughts to people. The last time I noticed something interesting I pointed it out and was called vain.. Why do I bother? (I tried to explain it, I still don't think he got it.)

Also, if you know the people around here, you might "rate" yourself higher too.

[stsparky]

Male - Adopted
141
No information - Adopted Dad is tremendously sharp though.
No information - Adopted Mom is extremely practical.

Had a friend whose IQ seemed to be 180ish - she was pushed off a cliff preggers her senior year in college. I never associated IQ with any measurement of value.

[Plekto]

Most peolpe think they are about 130, based upon actual tests like this that have been done. I don't have to guess myself because I took a comprehensive that covered about 20 areas a few years ago. The last test before that and the ones done in high school and grade school consistently put me at 160-170. The 20 area one had a few 110 or so scores - math and memory, and a few in the 190+ range, which is well within the average standard deviation. Most were in the 150-170 range - over 3/4.

What started this was my parents - they thought I had ADD and all sorts of problems - this being a decade before anyone KNEW about ADD. Turns out I was supremely bored in school, having learned it on my own months ahead of time by reading ahead. I'd read the book and figure most of it out in the first month, then coast through the classes being bored. As a result I got a C average - 2.23. This in a community where the "average" was a 3.2. With a 2.23, I was ~220th out of 236.(IIRC - and hence the angst from my over-acheiving adoptive parents)

Of course, this turned out to be exactly what I needed in college - great for cramming and such. Btw - the average person in a MAsters program is about 130 or so - a definite notch above the norm. So you get a lot of 150+ people at grad school as espected(10-20%) as opposed to 1-2% at a typical high school.

Of course, all of this intelligence and street-smarts did *squat* in my ability to chose wisely in love. And it does nothing towards my job, since I lack management skills as well. Heh. ie - it's not as usuful as you might think. Actually, it's bad because I get burnt out/bored at a job quickly. I'm coming up at three years at my current work and I honestly managed 8-9 months before this as my maximum, with 5-6 being more common. I count the days until I can leave. Heh. So bored...

[Fermented Yeast Paste]

Your IQ isn't how much you know, it's how well you can think and problem solve. :P It's smarts, not knowledge.
An IQ isn't set in stone, it can change and vary over time.

I wouldn't estimate mine to be any more than 120, but IQs are bullshit anyway. I would even go so far as to call them archaic. To seriously bring up your IQ in a discussion with me is an excellent way to tell me you're not worth my time.

[Plekto]

And.. love easily takes any IQ score a guy has and halves it. :yes:

[Overkongen]

Plekto, you're thinking about boobies, not love. Same thing with women and seeing babies.

[Candyvan Stan]

No, I'm pretty sure he's thinking about love.

[羽之助]

Had a friend whose IQ seemed to be 180ish - she was pushed off a cliff preggers her senior year in college.

Should we interpret that as being while pregnant in her final year of university, was pushed off a cliff by someone?

[jindojim]

Hmm...if I'm guessing correctly, this assignment is more about a child's opinions of parents (specifically their intelligence), rather than actually on intelligence itself.

I'm also guessing that the hypothesis is that children tend to think they know best?

I wanna know the real purpose of this study :P

[4letterwords]

IQ tests, much like the SAT's, are worthless. It's really about how good you are at taking tests, or better said, how logically your brain works. I have a VERY smart friend (she's the smartest person I know) who got an 840 on her SAT's. She's fluent in 6 languages and has already had a book published.

I, on the other hand, got a 1210 then a 1350 on my SATs, and I showed up to both high and drunk (my friend actually had to drive me there because I couldn't get behind the wheel).

It's all bullshit.

[mawande]

How long ago was this?

Female
140?
140
140

How would I even begin to know... I can't really answer this in any way that has meaning. Or perhaps this is the meaning.

[mawande]

Huh. After having answered the questions I went and read the thread.

I'm the only person who answered the way I did.

What does this say about me?

[Trump]

My roommate is terribly stupid. It totally skews my results because just being around him makes me stupid.

[Candyvan Stan]

I'm not a psychologist, and I don't pretend to know anything on the subject.

However, for me it's extremely clear that it's much more engaging to have a conversation with the average teenage mensan than the average teenage non-mensan. This summer I hope to be accepted to Mensa to get to know people my age.

[pangloss]

Thanks for all the responses everyone!

Although, because no one followed the instructions ( to PM answers to provide anonymity ) all participants in this thread sooner or later displayed Demand characteristics etc etc.
But hey fuck it. :bored:
I needed data that will be used (along with the other students) to create statistics that we will analyse to see if they support our theses.

In any case I have more than enough for that, so thanks again. :innocent:

I will post the hypotheses, when I am informed. It's a double blind experiment so I don't know what the hypotheses are.

[gentlemanandscholar]

Thanks for all the responses everyone!

Although, because no one followed the instructions ( to PM answers to provide anonymity ) all participants in this thread sooner or later displayed Demand characteristics etc etc.
But hey fuck it. :bored:
I needed data that will be used (along with the other students) to create statistics that we will analyse to see if they support our theses.

In any case I have more than enough for that, so thanks again. :innocent:

I will post the hypotheses, when I am informed. It's a double blind experiment so I don't know what the hypotheses are.

sweet. keep us posted
edit:
My bad on the demand characteristic. Shouldn't have posted.

[Candyvan Stan]

Thanks for all the responses everyone!

Although, because no one followed the instructions ( to PM answers to provide anonymity ) all participants in this thread sooner or later displayed Demand characteristics etc etc.
But hey fuck it. :bored:
I needed data that will be used (along with the other students) to create statistics that we will analyse to see if they support our theses.

In any case I have more than enough for that, so thanks again. :innocent:

I will post the hypotheses, when I am informed. It's a double blind experiment so I don't know what the hypotheses are.

You weren't really clear it was an instruction. To me, it was presented as an option.

[Jetsetlemming]

You weren't really clear it was an instruction. To me, it was presented as an option.
I had the same impression:
As before, you can PM me you answers to provide annonymity.

[pangloss]

My apologies. It looks like my tendacies towards dyslexia have resurfaced.
I meant "Can you.." not "You can.."

[RandomPasserby]

Btw. is your nick meant to mean PanGloss or PangLoss?

[Kusoyaro]

male
mine-130
mother-150
father-140

[pangloss]

Btw. is your nick meant to mean PanGloss or PangLoss?

Neither, it's a combination of 2 greek words.
Pan = All
Gloss = Mouth

Pangloss is the name of a character in Voltaire's "Candide" ( Dr. Pangloss )

[Soli]

I think it's more fun to see everybody else's answers. :P

[Overkongen]

Other people are confused whether they're in love, or looking at boobies/babies.

[Roxie]

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,268402,00.html

Study: Smarter People Earn More, but May Not Save as Much

Thursday , April 26, 2007
By Jeanna Bryner

LS
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You don't have to be smart to be rich.

Individuals with below-average IQ test scores were just as wealthy as brainiacs, a national survey found.

"What the results really say is it doesn't matter whether you are born smart or you are not born smart — you can do financially OK," said the study's author, Jay Zagorsky, an economist at Ohio State University's Center for Human Resource Research.

"It's not 'I'm not particularly intelligent, I'm destined to a life of financial failure and hardship.' The results said [if you have] a positive attitude and [want] to save up money and build up your wealth, you can do it no matter what your IQ is," Zagorsky told LiveScience.

The study, detailed in an upcoming issue of the journal Intelligence, also showed that highly intelligent people have financial difficulties, maxing out credit cards and missing bill payments.

Zagorsky suggests that the financial troubles could be linked with an inability to save money.

Past studies have shown that intelligence positively affects income, or the money a person makes per year.

"Individuals with a higher IQ typically have a higher educational attainment and a higher occupational status, and that is very well established," said Ruth Spinks, a behavioral and cognitive neuroscientist at the University of Iowa, who was not involved in the study.

However, just because someone has a well-paying job doesn't mean they are wealthy, which is a measure of the difference between a person's assets and debts.

Money matters

The scientists examined survey information from about 7,400 respondents who participated in the nationally representative National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, a survey of young baby boomers, or individuals born between 1957 and 1964, from across the country.

The current study is based on 2004 data, when the participants were between 40 and 47 years old.

The respondents answered questions about their income, total wealth and three measures of financial difficulty: whether they had maxed-out credit cards, if they had missed paying bills over the past five years and whether they had ever declared bankruptcy.

Intelligence scores were based on the Armed Forces Qualification Test (AFQT), a general aptitude test used by the Department of Defense to determine "trainability" of new recruits. AFQT scores have also long been used to measure intelligence.

Scientists in the field have found that after about the age of 5, a person's IQ scores remain relatively stable.

Financial sweet spot

Participants with higher IQ scores tended to earn higher incomes, with each additional IQ point associated with an income boost of $202 to $616 each year.

For example, a person with an IQ that's in the top 2 percent of society (130 points) would rake in between $6,000 and $18,500 per year more than an individual with an average IQ of about 100 points.

The results showed a financial sweet spot of sorts that hovered around the average IQ score, for which people had the lowest financial distress.

A person's IQ had no impact on their wealth.

So even though the "rocket scientists" earned on average higher incomes, they didn't have the savings to show it.

In fact, some higher-IQ people had more problems with maxing out credit cards and missing bill payments.

Zagorsky's current research is showing that people with off-the-charts IQs don't necessarily save more money.

Copyright © 2007 Imaginova Corp. All Rights Reserved.

[stsparky]

Should we interpret that as being while pregnant in her final year of university, was pushed off a cliff by someone?
The unwilling father? That's my theory. All the very smart folks seem to lack survival skills when they need them most.

[4letterwords]

Neither, it's a combination of 2 greek words.
Pan = All
Gloss = Mouth

Pangloss is the name of a character in Voltaire's "Candide" ( Dr. Pangloss )

I chuckled when I read Voltaire. Nothin to do with you though. Go on.