What should be censored?

[baslisks]

Should we be our own censors?

Should the government censor us?

What do you believe?

I personally don't want to see a man dying on the tv screen infront of me but I also believe that it shouldn't be hidden to view. If you hide the facts then you have a skewed life. Nudity shouldn't be considered evil. Sex happens everywhere. Cussing means nothing but the person lacks a vocabulary.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

Some shows should allow some swearing, like, "Oh, damn," or "What the hell," and whatnot.

I agree wholeheartedly, I think TV programs are trying to censor out the truth:

TESTICLES.

That is all.

[baslisks]

TESTICLES.

Thats all I saw. Yeah. I agree with you as you have read.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

I blame MTV and the schools.

[baslisks]

see if we allowed cussing nudity and killing in schools and on MTV we could completely rid ourselves of this thing we call censorship.

[Benaire]

Monkeys there the spawn of evil and should have never been invented.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

It's all their fault we now have HIV and AIDS. Or was it the elephant's fault we got AIDS?

[baslisks]

I think it was the girafe that had sex with a monkey that had sex with an elephant.

[Monkey]

I think nothing should be censored, but if you think the news companies are telling you the whole truth then think again. They censor by omission almost every news story that comes your way.

I remember a couple of years ago there was a big scare in Britain about the MMR vaccine (Measles, Mumps and Rubella), apparently there had been a scientific study about how it might be related to autism. The press reported this in droves, everybody jumped on the bandwagon and a whole couple of years worth of babies did not get their vaccinations. Later it turned out that the media had "omitted" the fact that there were something like twenty other scientific papers that found no correlation between the MMR vaccine and autism. Wheras there was only the one which found a vague statistical relationship between the two.

This goes on in every area of public information, from the news agencies to the government. They censor by omission.

It is not enough to demand freedom from censorship. You have to demand the publishing of all the facts. The above example shows just how easy it is to censor by omission.

Of course I acknowledge that if we ever got them to tell the whole truth, they would be so obseqious about it that they would show absolutely everything until our eyes popped out. We would be left with no choice but to demand that they only show us part of the truth. So really we are in a lose-lose situation. I would like a little consideration towards the turth however, rather than the current sensationalist reporting.


If you are referring to censorship of swearwords on TV then I shall refer you to this:

There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary, then you won't have to use bad language as often.

http://www.stephaniemiller.com/declarationofrevocation.htm

I know I've referred to it before but it really is quite amusing :D

[baslisks]

I know the news censors their stories. I go open source. Katrina was an open blog news check everyday. The news lies to make money blogs lie to decieve people. I think money is a bit more of an assholish move.

[stillbornsinger]

alright, back on subject nimwads... this isn't the place

I don't think anything should be completely censored, but I do agree with the end users rights to not be subjected to materials they deem unacceptable. Also I agree with a parents right to filter what a child can watch, but make it the parents choice.

So I am in favor of a system such as the V chip that was supposed to come out a long time ago but never seemed to surface. Somethere where the owner of the TV can program in that they do not wish shows to be shown that are above a certain rating or contain nudity, violence, etc... without a password.

My satalite TV growing up allowed parental controls for ratings and the blocking of certain channels. I think that was fine (didn't like it at the time!)

But if I want to watch hard core anal divers 11, or whatever I don't think the government has any right to censor my ability to watch that if a channel was willing to air it. But I should have the controls to block it from my hypothetical 7 year old daughter.

[baslisks]

alright, back on subject nimwads... this isn't the place

I don't think anything should be completely censored, but I do agree with the end users rights to not be subjected to materials they deem unacceptable. Also I agree with a parents right to filter what a child can watch, but make it the parents choice.

So I am in favor of a system such as the V chip that was supposed to come out a long time ago but never seemed to surface. Somethere where the owner of the TV can program in that they do not wish shows to be shown that are above a certain rating or contain nudity, violence, etc... without a password.

My satalite TV growing up allowed parental controls for ratings and the blocking of certain channels. I think that was fine (didn't like it at the time!)

But if I want to watch hard core anal divers 11, or whatever I don't think the government has any right to censor my ability to watch that if a channel was willing to air it. But I should have the controls to block it from my hypothetical 7 year old daughter.

Well that goes with the part of me saying I don't want to see a man dying but I don't think it should be hidden. It allows you to choose what you want.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

I heard before that back when Elvis was in his prime years, his pelvic thrusts were really considered vulgar.

So, during his opening act of some Awards Ceremony, they only broadcasted the show from his waist up. :confused:

[baslisks]

I heard before that back when Elvis was in his prime years, his pelvic thrusts were really considered vulgar.

So, during his opening act of some Awards Ceremony, they only broadcasted the show from his waist up. :confused:
Thats the type of crap I don't understand. Why? The suggestive human brain would imagine other things.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

There was this picture where it had a bunch of dolphins aligned and the sun and moon.

"According to psychiatrists, little children can only see the dolphins swimminng around in formation. What they don't see, is that they align a picture of two people having sexual intercourse, which means their brain doesn't imply that little kids have naughty thoughts. Older people starting from age 13 and over tend to get the thought of the dolphins first, but only the depicture of the naked couple. So, if you see the copulating couples first, then you have a naughty mind!!"

I need to find that picture!!

[baslisks]

yes that would be awesome. That would be a cool picture to show to my parents. Freak them out.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

Here it is, folks. You can vaguely see the dolphins, but what the hey.

I took this from their site.

http://www.spectrumz.com/z/images/dolphin_jar.jpg

"Research has shown that young children cannot identify the intimate couple because they do not have prior memory associated with such a scenario.
What they will see are the nine dolphins.
If it takes you longer than three seconds to see the dolphins, your mind is heavily biased in favor of perceiving the intimate couple (the email from which I harvested this picture says "your mind is corrupt"...)"

[baslisks]

wowo I don't notice the dolphins. now I see them. ok wow.

[stillbornsinger]

crazy... I couldn't even see the dolphens till two of my coworkers pointed out where they were... I was looking at it for a good few minutes too...


thats sad...

[AgentOrange]

It took me awhile to even see the dolphins.

I agree that people should have the choice of either seeing/hearing something or choosing not to see/hear it. I don't like the idea of people telling me what I can and can't watch just because they don't find it acceptable. Let me make that decision for myself. If you don't like the station, turn it off, but don't force me to also.

[GTARob]

I cannot stand censorship based on "morality". I have no problem with the army making sure reporters don't give away a units position in a battle. Censorship as it exhists on television today is supposed to be protecting the public from bad language, gratuitous violence(laugh) and sex. The problem is that noone seems to want to turn the damn tv off. They want everything sanitized to thier particular tastes. I dont agree with this. Parents should take resposibility for what thier children watch and play. If a person doesn't like what's on tv, they can look away. That is what I do, I have a weak stomach and therefore, I don't watch fear factor. I puke everytime I see it. I don't write a letter to the FCC demanding that the fear factor producers sanitize thier programming so that I can watch which is what every parents group in the nation seems hell bent on doing. Both in the video games industry and in the movies/tv.

[Lateli]

Crap, I only see 7 dolphins, where's the other 2?!

I think only "Basic" / "Local" channels should be censored (FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS. UPN, WB.) The rest should be optional censoring, just because it seems to be harder for a parent to block their children from seeing those channels. Mainly for cursing and nudity/sex scenes. Yeah, where IS that V-chip thing? I see commercials all the time, but.. confusing.. :/

[Bob]

Nothing should be censored

[stillbornsinger]

I have a weak stomach and therefore, I don't watch fear factor. I puke everytime I see it.

You mean stuff like this?

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/stillbornsinger/S0.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/stillbornsinger/S2.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/stillbornsinger/Korea2.jpg

[DarkFire168]

I think everybody should take responsibility for themselves and their kids. Censorship is the retarded stop gap measure of immature, irresponsible parents. If little Timmy goes and shoots up school, they blame it on the media, and video games and music, they never blame themselves for not wondering why Timmy spent 200$ on AK 47 armor piercing shells and 600$ on C4 grade plastic explosives. If you don't like something someone is saying, change the channel, turn it off, don't listen, whatever, but I shouldn't have to tailor what I write or draw or do just to make you happy.

Of course there are certain applications of censorship that are important, like for national security. Girelldo Rivera is a retard with a mustache. May his mustache get caught in a grease fire and take him with it.

Finally, the last pic, I don't get. It's just two dudes eating at a chinese fried food shop right?

And I still don't see the dolphins.

[akitaka]

I spotted all nine dolphins AND the intimate illustration. It's really a basis of knowledge bias; people will see what the want to see, even if it's just to start an arguement for whatever reason. I grew up without being censored, but at the same time, without high-exposure; really it's a balance that's needed.

Personally I think it's up to the damn stations to use context per channel. I won't expect the Discovery Channel to not cover mating as I wouldn't expect the History channel to disillude seemingly horrific events. And what the funk is up with Channel 8 and their "Boobahs?"

T.V. for the most part, it could really be doing better.

By the way, stillborne, how was the scorpion?

[GTARob]

Yeah, where IS that V-chip thing?

In every single tv made in the last four years.
http://www.fcc.gov/vchip/

You mean stuff like this?

Yeah, like that. Dick. :)

[stillbornsinger]

Darkfire168- The last pic was taken at a Korean restraunt in Cheng Won, South Korea... I have no idea what the meat was, but it was a little on the raw side there and had a very interesting taste...

akitaka- the scorpion had a very interesting taste to it as well, kinda fishy actually... and really crunchy... I much prefered the meal worms and dried frogs.

(by the way that picture was shot in Pattaya beach, Thailand... the plate was left overs from what was being served to a Korean tour group [go figure] and we asked to try it.)

GTARob- I do my best ;)

[Trump]

That drawing is misleading. It was designed to make the image of the intimate couple stand out and make the dolphins harder to see. The couple is in white on a black background making it stand out while the dolphins are the same color as the background and therefore appear like shadows. Unless you consciously look for images in shadows, most people will not see the dolphins immediately. Obviously children will not recogonize the couple since they have never seen it before but that doesn't mean they will see the dolphins more quickly than anyone else (except that adults will see the couple and stop looking while children may not). It's far too easy to play games with perception to prove any point you want.

[MeneerDijk]

Nothing should be censored, but this doesnt mean you should show beheadings on daytime tv. A little viewer discretion is advised, but as far as governemental issues or news goes nothing should be censored if it's not a direct security risk. Confidential information should be released uncensored when it's obsolete. We pay the governements and/or corporations we have the right to know what they're up to.

[sgt. pepper]

Swearing and violence should be on TV 24/7, sex could be allowed from 18.00 to 4.30 so that the really young ones won't catch it.

The Swedish censors are a little strange, sometimes they censor harmless curses and sometimes they show people doing drugs on travelling shows.

Swedish offt: High chaparall-nissarnas drogeskapader blev väl inte censuerade, eller har jag fel?

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

Is it alright for me to let my little brother watch Family Guy? He never learned any cuss words, aside from "Damn!" and "Hoe-wee kwap!"

:o

[Monkey]

Family guy should be fine. They pick up swear words anyway. Ain't nout you can do about it.

[baslisks]

In sweeden isn't weed legal? so taking drugs would be considered smoking there. Whats so wrong with watching people smoke. I won't smoke unless I feel like dying. I don't care if other people want to smoke though.

[stillbornsinger]

Swearing and violence should be on TV 24/7, sex could be allowed from 18.00 to 4.30 so that the really young ones won't catch it.



Question for you Sgt. Pepper, why do you consider sexual acts a more dangerous thing for your children to see then violence and swearing?

I think a lot of society has this backwards...

And also, why shouldn't I, a tax paying, cable bill paying, citizen be able to watch romping at my discretion with my lunch?

[baslisks]

no reason not to except for the values of the oppresive christian. Let the free run free.
(take half the stuff I say and think about it if I really mean it)

[sgt. pepper]

Question for you Sgt. Pepper, why do you consider sexual acts a more dangerous thing for your children to see then violence and swearing?

I think a lot of society has this backwards...

And also, why shouldn't I, a tax paying, cable bill paying, citizen be able to watch romping at my discretion with my lunch?

Because you get sexually excited by sexual acts. I don't want my children to be masterbating and spraying sperm everywhere, or at least hold it off for as long as i can.

Watch whatever you like... it could be on a seperate channel or something then, i'm not a tv-nazi. ^^

[baslisks]

thats where you set your programing for your tv. You don't want to see something block it or its shows. The reason why we don't want censorship is to MAKE people take responsibilty in what they do. Make TV a thought process inducing machine instead of an entertainment source. Hell introducing V-chips might introduce a new breed of hackers that learned basic security hacking form their tvs. Gotta love that.

[DarkFire168]

Darkfire168- The last pic was taken at a Korean restraunt in Cheng Won, South Korea... I have no idea what the meat was, but it was a little on the raw side there and had a very interesting taste...

akitaka- the scorpion had a very interesting taste to it as well, kinda fishy actually... and really crunchy... I much prefered the meal worms and dried frogs.

(by the way that picture was shot in Pattaya beach, Thailand... the plate was left overs from what was being served to a Korean tour group [go figure] and we asked to try it.)

GTARob- I do my best ;)

Oh, sweet. Have to add that to my list of places to go when I get to Asia eventually. I've always wanted to try scorpion, though I think I'll stay away from the meal worm.

[Alphonse v.2]

Just Idiotism. And I rather have a lot more violence censored then sex, I mean why is the thought of killing a being a lot more popular then creating?

[kattana]

Nothing should be censored, if you can not face the whole truth you should not see any of it. Most censoring is pointless self delusion anyways, people are smart enough to see through it and figure out what is behind. A Small child could figure out what is being bleeped nearly every time for example, but it is not ment for them in the first place so there is no reason to censor anything.