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Decade
03-10-2007, 01:58 AM
Everyone has at least one of those bastards you have to work with at your job. Lucky people have 1, average joe has at least a couple.

I'm an average joe in this regard, but remarkably I didnt make this thread to talk about the WORST guy in the office by far (I've nicknamed the bastard Arrogant fucker), it's about the next guy. It might sound strange, but I'm pretty heated right now and just need to vent this.

I'm an avid anti-racist. Seriously, I am extreamely sensitive to any person on how they feel in general, not just the office. This is because I'm both hispanic(white) and jewish and have basically been hit with the worst you can think of for my heritage. Now, I'm not a practicing Jew (I'll fully admit, I'm probably one of the most "unjewish" Jew's you'll meet because I don't really like to live by any religion), but I still get shit for being Jewish more than being hispanic (most people wont really believe me because I'm white that I'm hispanic. That's cause most people cant think of a hispanic person being anything other than a tan guy mowing their lawn. :bored: You can imagine the looks of mind-blown faces I get when I start busting out the Espanol with other people :eyepop: :eek:).

Experencing prejudice for either/or in the past, I've learned that you should always be sensitive to others because no one should be singled out just for the color of their skin/religion/ethnicity/etc. It's gotten to a point that I tend to forget someone is Indian/Black/Muslim/Asian/Latino/etc until someone mentioned it. When I realized that, I was happy at that time because I felt as though I reached a point where I really didnt care who a person was, I could approach anyone comfortably. Unfortunately, that time ended when I started my job because others dont practice the same philosophy. The most astounding of all? I have the most diverse work group in my company with people from almost every continent in the world.

This is where my problem begins though.

One guy in my office is a profound idiot. He's about 25 now, and he acts like an immature child who can't seem to comprehend what it means to be a professional adult in the work office. He is a black ethiopian immigrant who is very crude, speaks a lot of street talk, and will intentionally say racially profound statements just for shock value.

When he walks by me, a lot of the time he tries to talk like he's Tony Montana to emulate what he believes is a spanish accent. He does it to be funny, but really he does it to try to just say something racially relevant to the person present (I honestly dont care. The guy does this, but he also claims I'm not actually spanish. Yea, I really care a guy who knows NOTHING of Spanish culture really decided that for me :bored:). What REALLY gets me though, is that the guy is ignorant enough to call you racial deregatory terms to your face and think it's ok and funny.

I.e., he's called me to my face at least 3 times "A fucking Jew" or "A cheap Jew." It's fair to say he's said it alot more behind my back as well.

Each time he's said it, I told him right then and there "Do NOT call me that, that's NOT ok." He also knows I'm willing to go to management and HR over it, so he "tries" to appologize by telling me I shouldnt be so God damn sensitive. I tell him to Stfu or I'll go to the management.

I'm not going to claim to be the only one he's tried to make fun of; He's gone in audible range of the gay employees to tell people "I'm smoking fags/That's gay/That guy's a faggot." Never directly talking about them, but lets it be heard. My coworkers had to actually TRAIN this moron not to do this (what???), at least so openly.

You would think that the efforts of my coworkers and myself to get this moron to stop acting so ignorant in my office would have had an effect on him, and it did:

It's caused him to try and call out racism against him.

Now before you jump to conclusions, you have to hear what he calls racism.

If anyone complains to him now, he throws out the excuse "You're just doing it because I'm black!" No, we're doing it because you're being an idiot (other black coworkers have told him this as well, so it's not as if it's a case of just "white guys" telling him to stfu).

He loves to use this excuse on me more than ANYONE else though, because he knows I'm the one he's offended the most and is on thinist ice with (out of 2 other people whose ever made an antisemetic comment to me, he's actually had the audacity to do it again....and again :bang: ).

You all may be wondering the obvious question by now then:

"Why hasn't anyone actually gone up to the managers or HR yet?"

Well, people have. Unfortunately, the managers don't really have that much effect. What's worse is that people can do this (and WORSE) and not get fired because the turnover rate in my company is so high; They would rather just let things get crappy enough for the employees that they'll just leave and go to another job. Not only that, but no one wants to be the guy who might get someone fired. Worst of all, he actually is friends with most of my coworkers, so nobody would actually want him to get fired, and if I did, it would kinda put me on the shitlist in the office.

For a couple of months, things have cooled down a little. He'd still do stupid shit like do a mexican/puero rican accent whenever someone mentions anything even remorely hispanic, make a gay joke on the other side of the office from the gay employees, etc etc, but he had toned it down from his massive, flamboyant prejudice announcements.

However, any chance he could get to throw something in the air of me being a "racist" he would. Specifically, he would point to a white co worker and say "why me and not him?" He always tried to say this loud enough to get attention for it, the "HE'S A RACIST!" attention, but he always ran away as soon as I gave the answer "I DO give them shit for it!" Let me give you examples:

If I give gum to my coworkers in my cube, white/black/asian/muslim/latino alike, if I didnt offer him a piece when he comes back 2 minutes later, he'd point to my white coworker, of all the group, and ask "Why did he get one?"

If I give him shit for being crude, saying something ignorant/offensive/stupid, "Why me and not him?" He always tries to run away before he hears the truth of "it DOES happen to him/her too!" He also ignores the fact that if I per say give gum to coworkers, he'll give me shit about being racist EVEN IF I gave it to other black coworkers. In other words, he's got no grounds to stand on, he's JUST trying to find a way to get less heat on him for the racial shit he's started.

I had my final straw with the bastard today though. The bastard literally walked over to my 4 man cubicle from the other side of the office to launch a rancid fart at us. We all looked at him and told him off, but then he looks at me and goes "Why don't you get mad at him when he does it?"

"DOES WHAT? Does he come over to me from another cubicle just to launch a fart at me and my coworkers? No, he's in this cubicle already so he doesn't maliciously come here to do that. And when he DOES rip one, we DO give him shit, so whats your problem?"

But of course, he marches off not wanting to hear it.

I've had it, I've really had it. One SURE fire way of really getting to me is call me a racist or accuse me of racism. I've gone out of my way for everyone in the office to make sure they dont feel singled out as I have for being who they are, and this bastard knows it.

I know what some of you may be thinking, that maybe I've done some stuff unintentionally that may be considered racist to him. I've actually talked to coworkers in my office which are of almost every background you can think of (including black), they all try to reassure me I've never done so. It's gotten to the point where they have to try and CONVINCE me I haven't done anything like that because this guy has really gotten to me. They also try to convince me not to take it so personally and not actually complain about him because most people dont want him to actually get fired.

I've really reached my limit though. I've put up with his prejudice, I've put up with his ignorant acts, and I've had enough of being called a racist for his own stupidity. I've decided I'm going to talk to the managers seriously about him on Monday and make sure this moron gets the idea that HE'S the one who should be worried about being called racist, not me. If I feel as though the managers haven't done an adequate job, I will bring it up to HR.

Sorry for the gynormous post, I just needed to vent it all out. He's really, really burned me up today and I just cant deal with it anymore. I hate it when a person tries to play the "you're a racist!" card when they're trying to get out of trouble they're causing, he's really got no idea how much of an idiot he is nor the damage he's doing to himself and others.

h2orowe
03-10-2007, 02:43 AM
This reminds me. Yesterday all of a sudden I hear my white friend and our black lunch supervisor/security guard type person talking and my white friend goes, "Just think of it though, you guys got a FREE cruise over here. Blahblah"

Supervisor guy goes "Yeah, but WE were the boat."

"It's still a free cruise" my friend says and the both laugh.

I go "What are you talking about, Andrew?"

They both laugh and he goes "Slavery"

and I socked him >_>; Hard too. And he got all "WTF" and I was like "YOU DON'T JOKE ABOUT THAT SHIT." then his other friend who's this annoying prick who's given me shit everytime I saw him since 9th grade comes up and hits me "Don't hit Andrew in front of me" >_>; so I flung my apple juice and was ready to knock the shit out of that guy, but instead I just dogged him down because the noon supervisor dude saw me get all pissed and I didn't want to deal with a suspension -_-; I was pissed that day, because we had been learning about the holocaust (I swear, I learn NOTHING new in most of my history classes. It's ridiculous. I get criticized for trying to DISCUSS it, and the teacher goes "Joey, seriously, these kids don't have the knowledge to comprehend it, just wait until you get to a college course.") Anyway, we had been learning about the holocaust and like.. no one really took it serious. This one dude, who I thought was the shit, completely went down like 10 pegs in my eyes because his response to what the U.S. should've done was "Stay out of other people's business" >_>; I was ready to sock HIM because I thought he was an anti-Jew, but he ended up saying like.. "Countries should be allowed to do whatever they want." and I found out he didn't care about Darfur/other tragedies and shit, and he's like "What does the life of one human matter to us all?" >______________________>; I was pissed.


First time I ever heard the n word, I asked my mom what it was, and she slapped me fucking HARD. I had never been slapped by her in my life >_>; so, yeah, that's my whole family's stand on racism (except for some of our family a bit out east.. but I can't remember if they live in Ohio or Georgia or not :P because it's a specific uncle who's racist)

Urban~Ninja
03-10-2007, 03:43 AM
People that annoy you:
N........AGGERS!

Anyways, racisim is so high in my school that you just get over it, i used to get everything from "Mut" "Half Breed" "Half Blood" "Drunken Paddy" "Bomb Watcher" etc etc eventually i just got over it. Though i did get a Saturday Detention a few weeks back for basically drilling a kid into the wall and over it.

We were basically just tossing around a tennis ball we found. We were in a pit near the DnT room (like shop class) the pit is just a area the size of maybe a classroom that is just below the regular area's depth so we call it the "DnT Pit". Suddenly a apple goes crack right in the back of my friends head, he goes down hard. We walk upto see what happened and basically a kid had thrown it on purpose at us but at the time he said he didnt mean to and we believed him having not seen it. We go back down about 10 minuted later a barrage of Apples, Oranges, half sandwiches etc fly over. We go up and one of the nerdy kids in our grade who was on the steps said they are purposly aiming at the asian kid and the one spanish kid in out group. We go up and ask them in our usual tone (not angry etc) "What do you think your doing" and they do the whole asian slander get outta my country BS. Then one of them who knew me by name (not like a friend etc) goes "Hey look its the mut, your dad some kinda looser who fucked a asian hooker in Bangkok or some shit?" and basically he took shots at three things so i was pissed then they started grabbing me seeing how pissed off i would get.

I go "Get your hands off me" "stop touching me" etc, one of my friends in their grade who was nearby is now behind me telling them to cut it off (he knew that when i snap i get ape shit.). He could see my hand clenching up and got one of my friends to get his hand over my shoulder and then it happens the same kid goes. "Your mum dead with like some STD or some shit? Whats your brother half N-Word?" and i snapped snapped him the face hard, picked him up slammed him into a wall that was near the flowers next to the pit and lifted him over it (it was only up to my shoulders so it was kinda just a rugby tackle). His friends bolted like little shits....teacher walked by when he got up and asked what happened i got in shit blah blah blah.

But yeah racisim had to get pretty strong for it to bother me, but the kid who said it got expelled for the racisim (my school has a strong stance...when its brought to their attention, they suck at looking for problems.) The kids kept doing it for a few more days (apple throwing etc) but without the words but got bored i guess.

Lisa M
03-10-2007, 04:39 AM
I hope you can get this taken care of through HR. Try recording conversations - get a little voice recorder or something. I'm serious. What he's doing is not cool.

The only "racism" thing that I still get upset about happened in high school. During a discussion about discrimination, a black girl stood up, looked at me, and said "You're white. You've never experienced discrimination in your life." OMGWTFBBQ. I was a girl on the otherwise all-male wrestling team. I was openly non-heterosexual in high school. And the teacher didn't say squat about it, which I think is even worse. Hopefully he was just as flabbergasted as I was.

Decade
03-10-2007, 04:55 AM
I hope you can get this taken care of through HR. Try recording conversations - get a little voice recorder or something. I'm serious. What he's doing is not cool.
That's illegal though. It's considered spying (although video and pictures is not...God bless the legal system :bang:)


The only "racism" thing that I still get upset about happened in high school. During a discussion about discrimination, a black girl stood up, looked at me, and said "You're white. You've never experienced discrimination in your life."
Yea, I really hope in the end she realized that she WAS discriminating against you by saying that. It doesnt matter about your wrestling team event, she literally did it to you in that oxymoronic statement.

Black fist
03-10-2007, 04:57 AM
openly non-heterosexual in high school.
Wow learned something new

PopCulturePooka
03-10-2007, 05:34 AM
IRT Decade: Is your workplace unionised? Over here, that kind of shit attitude from the boosses, refusing to take action on complaints, would incur massive Union wrath. I should know, I've brought it down before.

IRT: Joey. You socked your white friend because he was joking with a black guy who was laughing at the jokes? I can understand being anti-racist, but seems you over reacted. IMO it's kind of insulting to the black guy, the way you reacted.

Comazon
03-10-2007, 05:35 AM
"You're white. You've never experienced discrimination in your life."

Ironically, I find that comment rather discriminatory.

h2orowe
03-10-2007, 05:38 AM
IRT: Joey. You socked your white friend because he was joking with a black guy who was laughing at the jokes? I can understand being anti-racist, but seems you over reacted. IMO it's kind of insulting to the black guy, the way you reacted.
Like I said, someone said shit about the holocaust earlier that got at me, so I was kinda pissed, and when I hit my friend I didn't stop to think "Oh they're joking" I just heard the white kid laughing about slavery, and my first instinct was to punch him. I apologized today for it >_>; he didn't give me a high five, but he didn't seem pissed at me. I don't really care either way, him and his stupid friends sorta chased me out of what has been my hang out for most of high school -_-; (He's my friend, but his friend that hit ME is the biggest douche bag ever, so.. blah.)

Injuryprone
03-10-2007, 05:40 AM
Hugs and kisses for all!

Decade
03-10-2007, 05:49 AM
IRT Decade: Is your workplace unionised? Over here, that kind of shit attitude from the boosses, refusing to take action on complaints, would incur massive Union wrath. I should know, I've brought it down before.
Nope. 75% of the employees at my company at 25 and under, mostly bottom of the totempole entry level employees who usually are there no longer than 9 months, either because they just cant stand it anymore (which is getting to that point), or they get promoted. Whats more, we just got bought out by our number 1 competitor, so they care even less now, especially with 1700 job cuts in this 4200 employee company.

I'm not leaving without some justice being served though. This is a lawsuit clusterfuck they're sitting on.

Hatsumomo
03-10-2007, 06:19 AM
Wow learned something new

Same here. :innocent:

Digital Masta
03-10-2007, 06:59 AM
I'm not a practicing Jew (I'll fully admit, I'm probably one of the most "unjewish" Jew's you'll meet because I don't really like to live by any religion), but I still get shit for being Jewish more than being hispanic (most people wont really believe me because I'm white that I'm hispanic.

Now, now...that would make those people anti-semites not racist

Angelyne
03-10-2007, 08:23 AM
I'm not leaving without some justice being served though. This is a lawsuit clusterfuck they're sitting on.

Probably doesn't need to be said, but if you're thinking of taking action against the guy, you should start documenting every offense he commits, and everytime you ask him to stop. Start writing down specific dates, times, description of events, quotes, witnesses, etc. Providing these sorts of details will make your case a lot stronger, whether it's for a lawsuit or a complaint against the company.


People that annoy you:
N........AGGERS!

When I read the title of this thread, I thought that it was going to be about that episode. Glad I wasn't the only one. :innocent:

Urban~Ninja
03-10-2007, 08:55 AM
When I read the title of this thread, I thought that it was going to be about that episode. Glad I wasn't the only one. :innocent:

I watched it all of like 2 minutes before i saw this thread funnily enough.

03-10-2007, 09:14 AM
IRT: Joey. You socked your white friend because he was joking with a black guy who was laughing at the jokes? I can understand being anti-racist, but seems you over reacted. IMO it's kind of insulting to the black guy, the way you reacted.Does seem like he overreacted, but it isn't just the black guy's right to be upset about it. And it was a tasteless thing to joke about.:watson:

koku
03-10-2007, 06:22 PM
Ironically, I find that comment rather discriminatory.


Same. People of all races can be ignorant about their own prejudices or attitudes.



But I need to say I have a completely different attitude about this. I would make race jokes with certain friends (white, black, asian, etc.) all the time. We're friends, we obviously like each other, so I don't see why any limits should be put up.

The guy in Decade's office just sounds like a big dick - I don't quite think he's racist. I guess I have a positive attitude and live in a nice area because I tend to see just as much reverse racism as I see racism. Actually, the places and people I hang out with, I don't see any of it.

I do think attitude has a lot to do with it, though. If I walked around trying to analzye every unfair coincidence as a potentially racist action from someone I'd go nuts (and I'd be wrong a lot of the times). It's not worth the headache to me. Joke about it with your friends if you want to. If someone truly is racist, you're not going to change their mind by exploding at them. I think the best I can do is stay normal.

smokingmonkee
03-11-2007, 02:06 PM
Decade: I hope you can work that crap out an good luck.

Joey: No offense but get over yourself and stop being a one man crusade. You had no right to go off on the guy.

Mastiker
03-11-2007, 08:36 PM
This reminds me of two occurunces in which I said "yeah, sure, I'm racist."

Me: "You're an idiot."
Kid: "It's because I'm black, ain't it?"
Me: "...Yeah. Basically. In fact, I don't even see you as a human being."
Kid: "*storms off, more of an idiot than before*"

Whitey: "Yo, teach *blah blah blah continues to try and sound thug*"
Me: "*fed up* YOU AIN'T BLACK"
Whitey: "Yo, you racist."
Me: "Oh yes. I'm racist. Not the white male embracing a culture that he knows nothing about except for glimpses of what he sees on MTV."
Whitey: "... :gloomy: "

I hate stupid people...

MNJetter
03-11-2007, 11:26 PM
What, only black people are allowed to sound "thug"?

I admit, I would sound pretty silly if I tried it (like "David Spade tries it" level of silly :D), but I've met some black people who would sound just as silly attempting it, and some white people who sounded right at home with it. It's more whether you're pretending to do it, or if it's really a part of your speech pattern.

Roxie
03-11-2007, 11:26 PM
reverse racism I am on a crusade to rid the world of this false idea!!

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS REVERSE RACISM!

Racism is racism, no matter the color of the victim or perp.

Decade
03-11-2007, 11:51 PM
Yea, Roxie hit it before I could.

She's right, word for word.

Jetsetlemming
03-11-2007, 11:52 PM
I don't like that term at all. It makes it sound like you're being racist to a racist.

mugen
03-12-2007, 12:08 AM
I guess I have a positive attitude and live in a nice area because I tend to see just as much reverse racism as I see racism.



So because there is just as much reverse racism as racism, it's a nice area?
America - I guess you have to live it to love it :/

Decade
03-12-2007, 12:53 AM
I don't like that term at all. It makes it sound like you're being racist to a racist.

That's a stupid insult to the stupid! :bwitch:

...*sigh, sarcasm

RoxFontaine
03-12-2007, 01:11 AM
This dude needs a serious ass whoopin'. There is absolutely NO way I would let ANYONE disrespect me like that. If your management is not on their job, then you should go above them. That is absolutely unacceptable behavior in a place of business.

h2orowe
03-12-2007, 02:19 AM
IRT Smokingmonkee: D: I know, I felt stupid as hell right after I did it.

I am on a crusade to rid the world of this false idea!!

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS REVERSE RACISM!

Racism is racism, no matter the color of the victim or perp.
I know, I was thinking the same thing earlier.

Decade
03-12-2007, 02:52 AM
This dude needs a serious ass whoopin'. There is absolutely NO way I would let ANYONE disrespect me like that. If your management is not on their job, then you should go above them. That is absolutely unacceptable behavior in a place of business.

Same wavelength bro.

Would you believe he's not the worst guy in the office too? :duh:

RoxFontaine
03-12-2007, 06:04 AM
No, I wouldn't. I can't imagine how anything functions in your office! There needs to be a SERIOUS shift in thought among your management. That is completely asinine and juvenile behavior not acceptable from an individual let alone a few employees!

I'm not trying to charge you up, but you should really do something to help usher a MAJOR change.

koku
03-12-2007, 07:33 AM
I am on a crusade to rid the world of this false idea!!

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS REVERSE RACISM!

Racism is racism, no matter the color of the victim or perp.


All righty. I'll call it racism. But then I have to explain what race its from and what race its to. A pain in ze arse.

So because there is just as much reverse racism as racism, it's a nice area?
America - I guess you have to live it to love it :/


blah. you know what I meant.

Kass
03-12-2007, 11:42 AM
Solution to problem: Walk into HR office, file a complaint that ends with the sentence "If management allows this to happen one more time, my lawyer will be contacting you instead of me."

What this guy is doing is harassment and is actionable. Besides, the word "lawyer" alone is usually enough to motivate lazy corporate execs to actually do something.

Trump
03-12-2007, 12:13 PM
I agree with Kass. It is harrassment (and it doesn't matter what kind). Bring that up and things will change.

japanat
03-12-2007, 01:08 PM
Probably doesn't need to be said, but if you're thinking of taking action against the guy, you should start documenting every offense he commits, and everytime you ask him to stop. Start writing down specific dates, times, description of events, quotes, witnesses, etc. Providing these sorts of details will make your case a lot stronger, whether it's for a lawsuit or a complaint against the company.QFT. When I was running a rec center in Colo, we had one gent who was like this. He'd get on the phone for 60-90min, take 2hr lunches, etc. We documented everything. When he got fired, he filed a wrongful termination suit with the State employment agency, and his lawyer called me to be a witness. I told the lawyer about having documented 9 different cases myself, plus the reports of other managers, and that suit quietly went away...

What really sucked was that his friend, who was a great employee, was persuaded by him to leave at the same time.

Decade
03-12-2007, 02:17 PM
The problem with going directly to HR and being that demanding right away is, again, he's actually friends with many of my coworkers and for whatever reason, I'm the lucky one who gets this bullshit.

I'd go to HR a lot easier knowing I wouldnt have hell to deal with being hated on in my office for the rest of the time I'm here. Besides him (and the biggest douchebag in the office), I do actually enjoy my job solely because of the people I work with. What it comes down to is I'm still trying to weigh what I want: Be harassed by one dumbass until one of us leaves, or give him the boot and be on the shitlist with everyone else in the office until I do.

I think you all know the position I'm in because most of you must have been in it at one point or another. It's not easy :meh:

Hell, the number 1 bastard in my office is someone no one likes, but no one will actually go to HR (he's been complained about by at least 5 different people on 5 seperate occasions, myself included, and is STILL working here) because no one wants to be known for actually getting someone fired.

It's a tough spot to be put in.

Decade
03-12-2007, 03:20 PM
I think the position I've been put in is trying to decide if whether or not I should discuss this with the manager or to discuss it with the dumbass himself.

I will admit, I was heated when I wrote that, but it's all true. I do generally get along with him when he's not a total moron on these things and we can enjoy being around one another. The problem is that when he does this stuff, it's infuriating and upsetting to me to the upmost degree.

In all honesty, the quickest way I could summarize a description of this guy is he's like that dumbass 25 year old "kid" who just doesn't know how to act maturely for his age. Sometimes it helps him, sometimes it hurts him (badly). Regardless, it's mindboggling that people can act this immaturely and wildely in what's supposed to be a professional environment.

Neon Pink Shoehorn
03-12-2007, 04:42 PM
I'll be honest; I notice it when someone's not white. I can defend my position by saying that I live in a very white area of a very white state, however I've always been mildly uncomfortable with my... err, non-color-blindness? I like to think that even though I do notice it when someone's not white, it's not a character judgment.
But when someone says "Somali" to me, (most people who are black around here are Somali) my mind does jump to a stereotype of a poor, uneducated family with 4+ kids that's leeching off of the social security system. I know of some Somalis that don't fit that; it still pisses me off some when a brand new van full of Somalis has a license plate that says "PAIDBYU" when they could've gotten a used one for maybe a quarter of the price of that one. Dude.

I know, I'm rambling about an aspect of my personality that I'm not proud of. Feel free to smack me.

koku
03-12-2007, 07:51 PM
*smacks the hell out of Tactical Grace*

You asked so nicely. :D


I think you just need to experience other areas. There are a lot of Somalis here in Minnesota and most of them are the harder workers at my college - especially the women. They study and work so freaking hard it puts the average college student to shame.

Roxie
03-12-2007, 08:49 PM
All righty. I'll call it racism. But then I have to explain what race its from and what race its to. A pain in ze arse.

Really? It's so incrediably painful you must create something that means nothing?

You must realize that it would be much more helpful no matter if you said "reverse" or not. Racism and power inequaltiy between groups is different the world over. It is the idea that policies or acts that benefit a historically socio-politically non-dominant group (typically minorities or women), at the expense of a historically socio-politically dominant group (typically men and majority races).

Again, differs all over the world.
So, it'd be helpful to explain which groups you're talking about no matter which term you use.

koku
03-13-2007, 03:11 AM
ok. I'll do it the political correctness.


I see more prejudice against white people from blacks than I see actual racism and abuse of power from the race in power in the area that I live.

I don't see much of either, but as black person, It's nice to know I'm less likely to face a problem than other places.

Mastiker
03-13-2007, 02:10 PM
What, only black people are allowed to sound "thug"?.

I think you misunderstood XD He's not being thug because that's how he grew up. If he grew up that way, I'd say nothing to him. But ever seen "Malibu's Most Wanted"? It's something like that. He's not embracing a culture he's a part of, he's embracing a culture that he only knows because of stereotypical behavior he sees of thugs on TV and movies. He is imitating black people. He's not imitating hispanics, he's not imitating whites, he's not imitating asians. He's imitating black people and it's so blatantly obvious that its not natural that it's painfully racist to people around him. Nobody gets offended, but people get annoyed. Same thing with this kid that calls himself "Ray Ray" but at least the other guy is somewhat popular with his fellow dumbasses.

That is what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

MNJetter
03-13-2007, 02:16 PM
"Ray Ray".......XD

That sounds like a nickname I'd give a pet fish.

Don't apologize. I knew what you meant. I've met pretenders to all sorts of subcultures and attitudes. They come out of the woodwork whenever a fad is still new enough to be interesting. Lord knows I've seen enough teenagers pretending to be black here in Japan. :P

Trump
03-13-2007, 02:24 PM
So don't try to get him fired. Go to management or HR and just say that you just want someone to talk to him. I doubt he'd be fired for the first time someone talked to HR especially if it was worded right.

"Hi, I'm really having trouble with this one employee. He's been acting terribly rude to me recently and I don't know why. I've talked to him about it but I haven't been able to figure anything out."

Just something like that maybe, just ask for help dealing with the situation. Furthermore, how would anyone know if it was you who got him fired? Things like that should be confidential.