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c-rex
02-16-2007, 04:29 PM
All I can say is, wow:

Shock at women goading toddlers
Footage of four women goading toddlers to fight has "stunned" police and social services in Devon.
The seven-minute footage, filmed at a house by one woman, was shown in a case at Plymouth Magistrates' Court.

In the clip, a boy wearing a nappy was called a "wimp" for not hitting a girl back after she struck him in the face.

Four women admitted child cruelty charges and were released on bail on Wednesday. Det Sgt Andy Kings said the police had been "shocked" by the case.



"This was a multi-agency operation with the police and social services working together and every professional that has seen this has been shocked and stunned," he said.
"Locally this is something that is new to us, but we are aware that similar incidents have occurred elsewhere in the country and it is something people need to be aware of."

The film was found by social services.

The boy, aged two, is seen crying after being punched in the face by the three-year-old girl and is told by one of the four women in the room "not to be a wimp or a faggot" and to hit her back.

The four women, all from the same family, are heard laughing as the toddlers are urged to keep on fighting.

'Taunted'

When the boy tries to get away and climb into an armchair, the women shout at the girl to punch him again.

She does and the boy is urged to fight back, but says: "No, I don't want to."

The girl leaves the room, and when she comes back the two are taunted and told to fight again.

The court heard that when interviewed by police, one of the women said: "I didn't see any harm in toughening them up. I done the same with my own children."

One of the women pleaded guilty to causing or procuring the children to be ill treated in a manner likely to cause unnecessary suffering of injury.

The other three pleaded guilty to jointly inciting the ill treatment of children.

Sentencing was adjourned until 16 March for reports.

The children are in the care of Plymouth City Council's Social Services.


http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6366255.stm

mamba
02-16-2007, 06:25 PM
Yeah read this in the paper, pretty fucking shocking. I'm sure i heard somewhere , Britain is the worst place to grow up in the western world. alcohol, divorce etc. etc.

Campion
02-16-2007, 06:44 PM
In the clip, a boy wearing a nappy was called a "wimp" for not hitting a girl back after she struck him in the face.

Refusing to hit a girl does not make him a wimp, it makes him a gentleman.




Campion.

Josh
02-16-2007, 06:53 PM
What strikes me as most odd about this is that it was the mothers who were doing the taunting.

RandomPasserby
02-16-2007, 07:07 PM
What strikes me as most odd about this is that it was the mothers who were doing the taunting.
It's the way of their family after all.

4letterwords
02-16-2007, 08:55 PM
Horrible.

The way they did it was shitty and I hope they get locked away, but I see no problem with toughing up your children. My mom (however cunty she may be now) taught me how to defend myself after a girl teased and punched me in the stomach in 6th grade. I dropped her later that year.

Kids nowadays are pussies.

-I do not condone children fighting.

羽之助
02-16-2007, 10:24 PM
"don't be a wimp or a faggot".

Idiocracy 4-evah.

Stephy
02-16-2007, 10:43 PM
It reminds me of how my two aunts (who currently are in jail for prostitution) when they used to babysit my sister and I (who is 1 year and 4 months younger), they'd make us fight. We were about 2 and 3 I'd thinkth.

Jiant Flying Panda
02-16-2007, 11:48 PM
It's one thing to make adolescent males fight each other (Like in my fathers side of the family). But to make toddlers do it is just fucked up.

Lame.

h2orowe
02-17-2007, 12:37 AM
On the serious side of this, I say I am disgusted. IRT the title though, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. "Fiwst wool of toddwah fight cwub. No tewwing ouw mommies! Second woo.. I POOPED MYSEWF! :'("

Like others who were sharing their stories and such, I had similar experience kinda with the family fighting. Noone made us, except each other really. My cousins have always been close with each other (me too, like we're all a big group of brothers basically). Though, we'd always have competitions, and fight with each other for fun like wrestling and stuff for fun. One time me (I was probably eight at the time, making my little cousin five or six) and my little cousin put on a show for both of our brothers. We were gonna fight, but he was always a wuss, (even though he had been in karate for a few years at that point, and I hadn't been in anything of the sort) so, when I punched him he cried (I never learned to punch hard until I was 12, I always hit kinda like a hammer so it wasn't even hard). My cousin kicked me in the nuts. I fell to the ground, and got up, then beat the shit out of him. >_>; This was a normal thing. We had lots of games that involved tricking someone and if they did something stupid or fell for it, you got to punch them.

Jetsetlemming
02-17-2007, 09:27 AM
When I was 6, and my little brother was 5, my dad would drunkenly make us fight. The most memoral occasion was when I had a broken wrist and he arraigned it like a boxing match. He kept yelling at me "Hit him with your cast! Hit him with your cast, mother fucker!" but I didn't, cause I was petrified at the thought of hurting my arm again, and I was thoroughly beat up. :(

japanat
02-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Jesus, folks, are you serious? I teach my kids to deal with each other and not to come to me for every little face made, and will teach them to defend themselves when/if necessary. But making my children fight each other?
Waaa-a-a-aaay fucked up.

Knife-Fingered Sue Sanderson
02-17-2007, 05:41 PM
Maybe it's just because the only guy in my family is my dad and I have no cousins, but I can't remember a single incident in my life when somebody tried to make me fight one of my sisters. Ever. The only thing that came close was when my dad suggested I take karate lessons because I was tired of my older sister "beating me up," but we were really just wrestling and tickling. The one time I gave my little sister a black eye was a complete accident - she had asked for a book and I tossed it to her and it hit her in the face - I felt terrible.

h2orowe
02-17-2007, 07:08 PM
One time, when I was like 10, and wrestling the same little cousin, I knocked the wind out of him and I was so scared I thought I killed him that when he was done, I told him to suffocate me with the beanbag >_________>; I was a very suicidal little kid. Always about to jump off buildings, and trying to drown myself.

RandomPasserby
02-17-2007, 07:35 PM
One time, when I was like 10, and wrestling the same little cousin, I knocked the wind out of him and I was so scared I thought I killed him that when he was done, I told him to suffocate me with the beanbag >_________>; I was a very suicidal little kid. Always about to jump off buildings, and trying to drown myself.
Doesn't California have a sea next to it? If it does, you are a failure even as a person trying to drown himself then ;)

Kass
02-20-2007, 12:55 PM
This was a normal thing.

Ther is nothing normal about that. It might have been a regular occurence, but it is far from normal.

Jetsetlemming
02-20-2007, 02:14 PM
Actually, Kass, that's fairly normal little boy behavior. >_>;