Penis Doctors

[Nights_into_dreams]

A question was posed to me earlier tonight, that I couldn't find the answer to.

Women have gynocologists...what is the name for the doctors that men see about their penis?

I tried to google 'penis doctor', but all I got for the top results was a disturbing amount of links to chopping the penis off.

Can anyone fill me in?

[Comazon]

Urologist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urologist) is the closest I can think of.

That position isn't specialized only for men though.

[Kaji]

So far as I know, there is no such specialization, hence the urologist would be the logical choice. Some would further argue that the urologist in many ways does specialize in men, due to the fact that men tend to be the default for medical research to begin with, and that certain treatments that work for men do not work for women.

That said, it'll be interesting to see what Az has to say when he makes it to this topic...

Edit:

Urology is the field of medicine that focuses on the urinary tracts of males and females, and on the reproductive system of males.

Hence, Urology would be the equivalent, in a sense. Another, lesser known, possibility would be Andrology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrology).

[Jetsetlemming]

I would have assumed proctology would be the equivilent of gynocology. *Shrug* It is male specific, at least, unlike urology, though urology covers the man areas that gynocology covers for women. Ah well. Be glad we don't NEED a specialized penis doctor. Our parts are self sufficient. :D

[Myrsilus]

Sorry, what? Proctology deals with the rectum, anus, colon and such. How is that a male-specific science?

Anyway, men usually just see a urologist when they have concerns for their genitalia.

[japanat]

Sorry, what? Proctology deals with the rectum, anus, colon and such. How is that a male-specific science?

Anyway, men usually just see a urologist when they have concerns for their genitalia.
But the proctologist can and does check your prostate gland, which is very important for men after they pass 40 (and I'm putting it off as long as I can...)

[Jetsetlemming]

I've never heard of women talking about a protcologist, only men. >_>; I thought that that doctor was just for male specific problems, especially prostate stuff. *Shrug* As I said in the post, it was an assumation. :P
Japanat, actually I was watching a medical show on discovery the other day and they said every six months since you turn 18. They want guys to go to the protcologist just as young as girls see a gynocologist. x_x
I'd rather risk cancer.

[Kaji]

Ain't there some other way to check? (Barium...X-ray...?)

[Plekto]

Note - women can also get prostrate cancer, so the reality is that you could probably go to a Gyn and get the same checkup.(ie - they train them in medical school in the basics of both - enough to do a checkup at least).

[Fermented Yeast Paste]

Note - women can also get prostrate cancer, so the reality is that you could probably go to a Gyn and get the same checkup.(ie - they train them in medical school in the basics of both - enough to do a checkup at least).
Mind telling me how this is possible when the prostate is unique to the male reproductive system?

[Kaji]

Mind telling me how this is possible when the prostate is unique to the male reproductive system?

Seconded here.

[Jetsetlemming]

lol.
I remember reading somewhere that there's actually a blood test that is *almost* as good as a prostate exam at detecting prostate cancer, but I can't remember where or what the test was... I'll see if I can't find anything online...
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=10171
All the other google results I saw were also in developement methods of detecting prostate cancer. This is dated May 2005, and they were already doing testing it with human blood, so it's likely that, assuming the project isn't dead, it'll be on the market not too long from now.

[Roxie]

Note - women can also get prostrate cancer, so the reality is that you could probably go to a Gyn and get the same checkup.(ie - they train them in medical school in the basics of both - enough to do a checkup at least).
My gyno is thorough...VERY, VERY thorough..

Seriously, I don't wanna hear any guy complaining about a urology appoinment. SERIOUSLY

I'M SERIAL!

[Kwiz]

Note - women can also get prostrate cancer...

Thanks for the heads-up. I'll make a note of not relying on any of your sex advice.

[Jetsetlemming]

Now I'm morbidly curious, yet refuse to look into it: When men get sex changes to women, is the prostate removed? >_>;
Roxie, men don't complain about urology appointments (unless they're sticking one of those snake cameras in the urethra or something >_>), it's the proctologist appointments that they hate. :P

[Angelyne]

On that note, it is possible for men to develop breast cancer (although it's quite rare).

Now how they perform male mammograms is a mystery to me...

[Kwiz]

Now how they perform male mammograms is a mystery to me...

Apparently the process is.. rather uncomfortable.

[Digital Masta]

My gyno is thorough...VERY, VERY thorough..

Seriously, I don't wanna hear any guy complaining about a urology appoinment. SERIOUSLY

I'M SERIAL!


As long as no tube is stuck up my penis in anyway you won't hear a complaint from me

[Myrsilus]

As long as no tube is stuck up my penis in anyway you won't hear a complaint from me
My thoughts exactly.

[SlickWilly440]

I tried to google 'penis doctor', but all I got for the top results was a disturbing amount of links to chopping the penis off.


Wow I didn't not know that. Well I have got a night to google "penis doctor" to see how penis's get cut off....see you guy/gals later!

[japanat]

As long as no tube is stuck up my penis in anyway you won't hear a complaint from meBeen there, done that. Still hated the prostate exam I got to qualify me for high school athletics more.

ie, the tube is small, and you're numbed out first. But some doctors have BI-I-I-I-IG fingers...

[Jetsetlemming]

What in God's name would make a prostate exam neccesary for High School sports? Seriously, are they expecting their teenage football stars to be sent to the sidelines from prostate cancer? x_X

[UK_Storm]

I wonder if the person who started this thread had sleepless nights pondering this subject...

[japanat]

What in God's name would make a prostate exam neccesary for High School sports? Seriously, are they expecting their teenage football stars to be sent to the sidelines from prostate cancer? x_XI don't know why, but my HS required hernia check and prostate checks for all male athletes over 16 (that was the real strange one, 15-yr-olds didn't get the finger, for once). Thank God I got a lady doctor! Then I could add that teen-aged embarrassment on top of the rectal humiliation:duh:

[Digital Masta]

I don't know why, but my HS required hernia check and prostate checks for all male athletes over 16 (that was the real strange one, 15-yr-olds didn't get the finger, for once). Thank God I got a lady doctor! Then I could add that teen-aged embarrassment on top of the rectal humiliation:duh:

I wonder if they still do that where your're from...I'd like to think not.

[RandomPasserby]

I don't know why, but my HS required hernia check and prostate checks for all male athletes over 16 (that was the real strange one, 15-yr-olds didn't get the finger, for once). Thank God I got a lady doctor! Then I could add that teen-aged embarrassment on top of the rectal humiliation:duh:
Was it like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O19rIIipr6E)?

[Citizen]

Mind telling me how this is possible when the prostate is unique to the male reproductive system?

Something tells me that Plekto was probably thinking of the Gräfenberg spot or Skene's gland. Skene's gland is a homologue of the prostate and stimulation of the G-spot is considered to be the female equivalent of a male's prostate being stimulated.

Well, I hope he was.

[Roxie]

btw, did you know most women have a MALE gyno?!
And those women have higher rates of hystorectomies!?

Thank God mine is female...in fact, my gyno was my mother's gyno and was the one that delievered me when I was born.

[Angelyne]

btw, did you know most women have a MALE gyno?!
And those women have higher rates of hystorectomies!?

Thank God mine is female...in fact, my gyno was my mother's gyno and was the one that delievered me when I was born.

What's so bad about going to a male gyno? The one male gyno that I had was actually a lot more gentle and careful than the female ones that I've visited.


/probably too much information

[Jetsetlemming]

Are you saying that women with male gynocologists are more likely to have hysterectomies?
I somehow am doubting a man is somehow magically more likely to cause ovary cancer or other complication than a woman.
Or that either can cause it by being a gynocologist at all. :bored: Not like most women don't get touched by a man OUTSIDE the gynocologist's office via those wonderful sexual things us people so like to do.

[Plekto]

There's about a 10-20% variation from the norm in the human population - where you have one or more things that aren't normally supposed to be that way - from one Ovary to parts not put together right, to all sorts of other things.

Plus, there are transexuals of course and lastly, women, often female athletes, that you hear about that are genetically male but are female on the outside.

And they teach them about all of them in medical school - or how to quickly adjust and do that sort of exam. Because you never know what you'll encounter in an exam. ;)

EDIT - the condition is called Androgen Insnesitivity Syndrome. An estimated 2-3% of all women are actually genetically male but never find out or only do if a genetic test is done on them(usually when they are wondering why they can't have children).

[Jetsetlemming]

You have this amazing ability not to shut up when you act like an idiot, but to rather further spouting the same stupidity and expand on it.
Brazo, plekto. I admire your blind, retarded drive to go forward, into realms of stupidity no man has gone before.

[Roxie]

What's so bad about going to a male gyno?
I don't want any man (outside of a significant other) touching. me. there. Certified or not.

It's awesome that your gyno is more gentle than your last. I defend your choice, but it wouldn't be mine. I definently advocate that you go to the best doctor you can find, sex of that doctor be damned. But so far, it ain't for me.

Are you saying that women with male gynocologists are more likely to have hysterectomies?
Yes.
This (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=16482772)article says no, but this (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=7943488) article says "kinda, sorta, but it's more related to their experience." Here's (http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,975670,00.html)another article on it, but it doesn't have enough facts for my taste. I've read other articles that says "yes" unfortunately, I read them years ago, so it might've changed.
I somehow am doubting a man is somehow magically more likely to cause ovary cancer or other complication than a woman.
Or that either can cause it by being a gynocologist at all.
I didn't say that. You did.

[Plekto]

You have this amazing ability not to shut up when you act like an idiot, but to rather further spouting the same stupidity and expand on it.
Brazo, plekto. I admire your blind, retarded drive to go forward, into realms of stupidity no man has gone before.

AIS and other oddities DO happen from time to time, and the simple fact is that any genetic male, even if they look 100% female, will have a prostrate gland(it may be smal and underdeveloped, but it's there).

I also mentioned transexuals(and those wrongly reassigned at birth - if there's a doubt, most doctors automatically reassign to female, especially outside of the U.S.), which are a small percentage of the population as well. They don't remove it during the operation, either, so it's a known problem. And obviously someone who has had a sex change is going to go... you guessed it - to a Gyn to get tests and such done. So they train them to deal with it.

I'm 100% right on this so give it up. Don't believe me? Look it up.

[Fermented Yeast Paste]

No, you're trying to back up a misleading statement you made by pointing attention towards those that are outside the norm (i.e., mutations in genes such as AIS). Saying that "women can get prostate" cancer is absolutely incorrect because of how the female anatomy is naturally different from the male in that respective area.

By the way, yes, it is prostate, not prostrate.

On the other hand, saying something like that men can get breast cancer (which is commonly associated with women, and rightfully so), is correct because men don't have to be born with a genetic mutation to get it. Link (http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/treatment/malebreast/healthprofessional).

[Pierrot le Fou]

My God Plekto, did you not learn from the drugs thread? When you make a boneheaded statement and get caught, don't sit there and try to justify it -- own up and shut the fuck up.

Are you really so fucking bullheaded as to be unwilling to concede when you're wrong?

[japanat]

lol.
I remember reading somewhere that there's actually a blood test that is *almost* as good as a prostate exam at detecting prostate cancer, but I can't remember where or what the test was... I'll see if I can't find anything online...
This test is around. However, such tests can be rendered ineffective by obesity. My father-in-law, the doctor, said that something about the blood chemistry of obese people covers the cancer markers in the blood. I'll look for the link.

edit: my mistake, that's the old test. My father-in-law told me this years ago, and I went with it before updating...

[Plekto]

My *original* point was that a Gynecologist would also be able to do a Prostate Exam(tm) as well, because they are taught how to deal with these specific examples in medical school. It may be uncommon, but they are taught it nonetheless. Just like how men's doctors are now taught that men can get breast cancer(which someone already brought up). It's also rare, but not unheard of.

I guess my definition of "woman" is slightly different. There are quite a few "women" in the world right now who are completely unaware that the reason they can't have children is because they have male chromosomes. This was my point when I said this - that while they might not be genetically a "woman", they are otherwise indistinguishable from any other woman on the planet. They grow up, look, sound, have sex like, and 99.9% of the time grow old and die as women, never aware that they aren't genetically. So the doctors have to know to keep an eye out for things like this.

And it's actually not as uncommon as you might think. I checked a few sites and found some experts think it's as high as 1:2000(some famous people, in fact). Also, I actually know someone who had the opposite condition(slightly more rare). Grew up as a boy until "he" started growing breasts.

[Pierrot le Fou]

My *original* point was that a Gynecologist would also be able to do a Prostate Exam(tm) as well, because they are taught how to deal with these specific examples in medical school. It may be uncommon, but they are taught it nonetheless. Just like how men's doctors are now taught that men can get breast cancer(which someone already brought up). It's also rare, but not unheard of.
You can check yourself for prostate cancer if you'd like, just as you're supposed to check yourself for breast cancer and testicular cancer. Stating that a Gynecologist can do it is a weak cop-out.

From wikipedia:
Because the breast is composed of identical tissues in males and females, breast cancer can also occur in males, although cases of male breast cancer account for less than one percent of the total.

Weak fucking sauce Plekto.

I guess my definition of "woman" is slightly different. There are quite a few "women" in the world right now who are completely unaware that the reason they can't have children is because they have male chromosomes. This was my point when I said this - that while they might not be genetically a "woman", they are otherwise indistinguishable from any other woman on the planet. They grow up, look, sound, have sex like, and 99.9% of the time grow old and die as women, never aware that they aren't genetically. So the doctors have to know to keep an eye out for things like this.
No, no that wasn't your point. Your point was:Note - women can also get prostrate cancer, so the reality is that you could probably go to a Gyn and get the same checkup.(ie - they train them in medical school in the basics of both - enough to do a checkup at least).
No mention of Klinefelter's syndrome or transexuals or anything else. Just stating that women can also get prostate cancer.

They cannot. Women do not have prostates. People with Klinefelter's syndrome are considered men, since being a man is a result of having a Y chromosome. So please, stop spreading disinformation and trying to pass it off as a legitimate misunderstanding when it wasn't.

And it's actually not as uncommon as you might think. I checked a few sites and found some experts think it's as high as 1:2000(some famous people, in fact). Also, I actually know someone who had the opposite condition(slightly more rare). Grew up as a boy until "he" started growing breasts.
So the incidence of people identifying as women yet who have a prostate is 1:2000? No. Some sites (which you didn't list) provide a figure of 1:2000 for people with this condition. And how many men with 2 X Chromosomes identify as women? This is assuming the figures you're citing are accurate, mind you.

So for fuck's sake, stop being a defensive little pissant trying to weasel himself out of another bald-faced mistruth. You were wrong. Own up to it. Women cannot get prostate cancer. Period.

[Jetsetlemming]

It's times like these that I wonder if Plekto is posting from inside a mental institution, or some sort of special care home.
I just hope he isn't near any women.

[Kass]

btw, did you know most women have a MALE gyno?!
And those women have higher rates of hystorectomies!?

Thank God mine is female...in fact, my gyno was my mother's gyno and was the one that delievered me when I was born.

I'm always gald to hear of decent female gynecologists because I have never encountered one that didn't hurt me or was just positively ambivalent about my concerns. I'd hate to think there weren't any really good ones.

One completely botched an exam and I hurt so bad I could barely walk. One totally misread a pap smear and was recommending me for a hysterectomy. (There was nothing there. Thank God for second opinions.) One refused to even prescribe me pain meds for an ovarian cyst she could see clearly on the MRI. She said, "It hurts. You'll live." I ended up in the ER.

For the record, I've passed kidney stones and gave birth to a child sans any and all pain meds and the cyst hurt WORSE by far. I filed a complaint with the stupid cow's practice owner.

I'll never give another woman a chance at being my gynecologist again. Three chances is more than enough. I love my GYN. He's great, pays attention, doesn't do anything unnecessary and takes the time to answer all my questions. All I had to do was get over him looking just like Santa Claus.

[Jetsetlemming]

My grandmother has kindey stones problems and she told me that they hurt worse than giving birth. >_>;

[Decade]

btw, did you know most women have a MALE gyno?!
And those women have higher rates of hystorectomies!?

Thank God mine is female...in fact, my gyno was my mother's gyno and was the one that delievered me when I was born.
Little sexist, arnt we? I take offense to that being the son of a OB-GYN with awards in his field. A Gyno with a Y chromosome wont make you have to have a hystorectomy.

But, you DID say

I definently advocate that you go to the best doctor you can find, sex of that doctor be damned. But so far, it ain't for me.
Hey, your choice. It's uncomfortable for a person of the other sex to study you in your privates, but it doesnt make them less capable.

But I get the feeling you already know that.

Only thing I hate about going to my doctors office is when I have to pee in a cup and then give it to the cute intern thats my age.

Intern: "Ok, can I have your cup?"
Me: "Wait...YOU'RE taking it?"
Intern: "Yep ^_^"
Me: :eyepop: *walk down that damn too long of a hall and turning redder every step
Intern: :rofl:

...I fucking hate that :gloomy:

I love my GYN. He's great, pays attention, doesn't do anything unnecessary and takes the time to answer all my questions. All I had to do was get over him looking just like Santa Claus.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

PRICELESS

[Plekto]

So the incidence of people identifying as women yet who have a prostate is 1:2000? No. Some sites (which you didn't list) provide a figure of 1:2000 for people with this condition. And how many men with 2 X Chromosomes identify as women? This is assuming the figures you're citing are accurate, mind you.


I've seen this quoted online in various places - it's a pretty common statistic. This is roughly 1/10th(1 in 200) the number of people that are born with gender defects in the U.S., so it makes sense to me.

Given the transgender/intersexed/mis-diagnosed, and those with indeterminite sex, plus conditions like this(which many doctors note is sharply rising in the U.S., alone with autism and other defects), it's perfectly reasonable that 1 in 2000 people has a potential for something like this.

BTW, did you know that doctors in the U.S. are noting that about 1 in 20 children are born with some sort of problem or genetic defect currently? Most are simple - like a hernia or a club foot or simmilar - and easily fixable, but some aren't. This specific problem is exactly the same as type II diabetes - and likely as common. Your code in both cases has a defect where your body doesn't assimilate the insulin (or testosterone in this case) properly. In the absence of testosterone, the human body develops as a female externally(though obviously nothing's working as far as reproduction inside)

Anyways, in no way does arguing about that specific statistic invalidate the rest of what I said. You'd not KNOW whether a woman you are seeing was really female or not if you were a doctor until you checked. Just like how many peolpe - millions, in fact, have no idea that they are pre-diabetic(though any nutritionist will spot the signs easily). This specific problem actually has nothing to do with mixed chromosmes but with having improperly functioning testosterone receptors in your cells.(and like diabetes, is treatable) That's why it's so much more common than Chromosmal disorders.

Also, like diabetes, it can be recessive trait/gene that can be passed on to children. A vast number of women in America are carriers for the gene as well. But it can happen spontaneously - god knows we have more than enough plastic and chemicals in our lives - it's a wonder our children don't all have 7 fingers.

Anyways...

So my statement is technically correct, like it or not. While they aren't genetically male, they are legally as such - and almost all of them won't possibly know, let alone tell anyone about it. Even if they are diagnosed with the condition, they can still marry and do everything women can do(other than have children).

http://www.ez-entertainment.net/Curtis_Jamie-Lee.htm
Note the bit at the bottom. Would you or anyone else call her a "guy"?

Because the problem causes a super-feminization of the body and an incredibly clear complexion and so on, it's suspected that Hollywood may have a large percentage of women with this condition. But few people are talking.

****
A more correct statement would probably have been - since all women aren't genetically "women", a Gynocologist is trained to deal with male problems as well. And as such, getting back to the original discussion, seeing a (typically male by percentages) Gynecologist as a male might be wierd, but they would be easily capable of giving you a proper check-up.

I just assumed like an idiot that you were all informed enough to realize that there are people who identify as women or think they are women who aren't genetically. I brought it up because I know a friend who has it and while rare, it's simmilar to men getting breast cancer - it happens every so often and its definately sometihng they teach all doctors about these days. It's a condition 99%+ of Americans have no idea exists, so I thought it would be good to bring up.

But gheez - you're like my high school English teacher, Pierrot. Yelling at me over semantics when if you read the entire thing in context, the meaning is clear enough.

[Fred]

What I understand Roxie to be saying is not that male Gyno’s are somehow more likely to cause the need for hysterectomies, but that they may be more likely to prescribe a hysterectomy than a female Gyno. It is clear she knows the data is not conclusive regarding this question.

In regards to selecting a physician, whether it is a gynecologist, urologist, proctologist, or whatever, I am sure most people would choose someone with competence over ineptitude regardless of their gender. For me, personally, gender does play a role in my preferences, but it is not one of the top three attributes. My list is as follows:

1. Competence (ability, knowledge)
2. Compatible philosophy regarding health care. (e.g., I am in charge of my health care. I want to know my options. Determine the cause rather than just treat the symptom.)
3. Convenience (location and hours)
4. Comfort – I need to feel comfortable around this person. I know I am more likely to feel comfortable in this kind of situation around another guy.

In regards to the original question of whether there is a “penis” doctor, I did a search for “Physician Specialist” on line and found a list of 400 different specialists. I did not see anything like penisologist. There were fertility specialists, erectile dysfunction specialist, urinary tract specialists, and quite a number of ones that I would never have thought of. Base Scull Surgery Specialist comes to mind. So, I suppose the closest equivalent of a gynecologist for men, where you would get a routine check-up of your genitals, would just be your general practitioner/family doctor.

[Roxie]

I love my GYN. He's great, pays attention, doesn't do anything unnecessary and takes the time to answer all my questions. All I had to do was get over him looking just like Santa Claus. WOW! That's amazing.
A Gyno with a Y chromosome wont make you have to have a hystorectomy.
I didn't mean to imply it was simply the genetic difference, I believe it to be cultural
What I understand Roxie to be saying is not that male Gyno’s are somehow more likely to cause the need for hysterectomies, but that they may be more likely to prescribe a hysterectomy than a female Gyno. It is clear she knows the data is not conclusive regarding this question.
Exactly.

[Pierrot le Fou]

I've seen this quoted online in various places - it's a pretty common statistic. This is roughly 1/10th(1 in 200) the number of people that are born with gender defects in the U.S., so it makes sense to me.
A common statistic? Are you brain damaged?

Statistics are statistics. They are not 'common' or 'rare' like trading cards. It could be a commonly cited statistic perhaps, in which case you could cite where you got it from. Since it's so 'common' you should be able to provide dozens of reputable sources for that statistic.

Given the transgender/intersexed/mis-diagnosed, and those with indeterminite sex, plus conditions like this(which many doctors note is sharply rising in the U.S., alone with autism and other defects), it's perfectly reasonable that 1 in 2000 people has a potential for something like this.
Reference?

BTW, did you know that doctors in the U.S. are noting that about 1 in 20 children are born with some sort of problem or genetic defect currently? Most are simple - like a hernia or a club foot or simmilar - and easily fixable, but some aren't. This specific problem is exactly the same as type II diabetes - and likely as common. Your code in both cases has a defect where your body doesn't assimilate the insulin (or testosterone in this case) properly. In the absence of testosterone, the human body develops as a female externally(though obviously nothing's working as far as reproduction inside)
Reference?

Anyways, in no way does arguing about that specific statistic invalidate the rest of what I said. You'd not KNOW whether a woman you are seeing was really female or not if you were a doctor until you checked. Just like how many peolpe - millions, in fact, have no idea that they are pre-diabetic(though any nutritionist will spot the signs easily). This specific problem actually has nothing to do with mixed chromosmes but with having improperly functioning testosterone receptors in your cells.(and like diabetes, is treatable) That's why it's so much more common than Chromosmal disorders.
Reference?

Also, like diabetes, it can be recessive trait/gene that can be passed on to children. A vast number of women in America are carriers for the gene as well. But it can happen spontaneously - god knows we have more than enough plastic and chemicals in our lives - it's a wonder our children don't all have 7 fingers.
Here's my issue with your statement:
(A) You claim this is common
(B) You cite no sources
(C) You don't even state the name of this mystery disease
Here's a hint:
Recessive traits/genes are not the same as mutations based on artificial chemicals and the like. It's not like you breathe in X amount of fluorocarbons and suddenly -- BOOM! -- your genetic code switches to have a recessive gene (say for sickle cell anemia). Isn't that a shocker? Furthermore, with the advent of transportation technology and globalization, we're less likely to end up with more recessive traits as people 'inter-breed' so to speak.

But don't let that stop your parade of fucking idiocy.

Anyways...
Non-standard (http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?gwp=13&s=anyways), it's 'anyway' without an 's' at the end.

So my statement is technically correct, like it or not. While they aren't genetically male, they are legally as such - and almost all of them won't possibly know, let alone tell anyone about it. Even if they are diagnosed with the condition, they can still marry and do everything women can do(other than have children).
Hey, smart-ass, if you're talking about CAIS, then they're born with testicles and a Y chromosome. That's pretty genetically fucking male to me. If you're referring to a mystery disease, then you'll have to tell me what that disease is.

http://www.ez-entertainment.net/Curtis_Jamie-Lee.htm
Note the bit at the bottom. Would you or anyone else call her a "guy"?

Because the problem causes a super-feminization of the body and an incredibly clear complexion and so on, it's suspected that Hollywood may have a large percentage of women with this condition. But few people are talking.
This is where I get the part about you talking about CAIS here. Because that's what the page cites. Now shockingly enough, it isn't stated on wikipedia about Jamie Lee Curtis, and the page on CAIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome) says:
CAIS "urban legends"

Whether called CAIS or testicular feminization, this condition intrigues the imagination when people first learn of it. Inevitably, when CAIS is discussed or taught, someone will mention that they have heard from a reliable source that insert name of voluptuous female movie star or celebrity has AIS, as if offering some titillating scandal or memorable illustration. Lack of corroborative evidence never stops a good rumor. Experience teaches that the names change with the decades, but not the story.

And there's even a Snopes article about it (http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/jamie.htm) which states it's 'Undetermined' but that there's very little legitimate reason to believe that it's true given the information available (none).

A more correct statement would probably have been - since all women aren't genetically "women", a Gynocologist is trained to deal with male problems as well. And as such, getting back to the original discussion, seeing a (typically male by percentages) Gynecologist as a male might be wierd, but they would be easily capable of giving you a proper check-up.
No, that would not have been a more correct statement. A general practitioner could do a prostate exam. You could do a prostate exam. It's feeling for abnormal lumps on your damned prostate, not fucking brain surgery.

Furthermore, all women are women. Tautologically.
Genetic determination

Most mammals, including humans, are genetically determined as such by the XY sex-determination system where males have an XY (as opposed to XX) sex chromosome. During reproduction, a male can give either an X sperm or a Y sperm, while a female can only give an X egg. A Y sperm and an X egg produce a boy, while an X sperm and an X egg produce a girl.
It's really that simple. XXY, or XYY, or XY with female characteristics and testes are determined 'inter-sex' as they don't exactly neatly fit into the categories. They may identify as a woman, but that doesn't make them a woman. Rather than acknowledge this (incredibly fucking obvious) fact, you have decided to get all psychological regarding gender identity and determination in an utterly pathetic attempt to save your argument (which though you may view as floundering has been sunk and now being deposited in the Mariana Trench (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Trench) of the argument ocean where it will be lost forever).

I just assumed like an idiot that you were all informed enough to realize that there are people who identify as women or think they are women who aren't genetically. I brought it up because I know a friend who has it and while rare, it's simmilar to men getting breast cancer - it happens every so often and its definately sometihng they teach all doctors about these days. It's a condition 99%+ of Americans have no idea exists, so I thought it would be good to bring up.

But gheez - you're like my high school English teacher, Pierrot. Yelling at me over semantics when if you read the entire thing in context, the meaning is clear enough.
You assumed like an idiot? Too easy.

I know plenty about gender identity and the surrounding issues. This isn't about that.

You said that women have prostates. This is simply untrue. Women do not have prostates. Prostates are a male feature. A transexual may identify as female, and I will refer to a transexual/transgender/transvestite as 'she' if 'she' so prefers, but that does not magically make 'her' a female.

So when you say I am getting into semantics, I think you'd better hold that tongue, Plekto, and realize that you are the one trying to convince me that someone with a Y chromosome is actually 'female' because 'she' identifies as such, rather than acknowledging the patently obvious fact that a female does NOT have a Y chromosome. That's semantics.

And it's NOTHING like men having breast cancer. In males and females, breast tissue is the same! Men need no mutation, no genetic change, no gender alignment issues to have breast tissue. They're born with it, live with it, and most likely die with it.

Women do not have prostates. Period. Arguing otherwise is semantics.

Is it that hard for you to concede defeat?

You're arguing that women have prostates! This is a sure loss for you! You can't win without getting into semantics and arguing about gender identity, which has absolutely fuck-all to do with prostates.

You're wrong! Accept it!

[erbiumfiber]

Wow, I was getting concerned there for a bit that I might need to sign up for a PSA test to check for prostate cancer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_specific_antigen

Thank God I'm off the hook because I'm a woman!

PS: My father is majorly obese and has been nearly his entire adult life- had a few high PSA levels but was negative for cancer, then finally had a PSA test that was high and now DOES have prostate cancer. I think the blood test is more accurate than the finger (good news for guys!) but still produces both false positives and false negatives.

[Pierrot le Fou]

Wow, I was getting concerned there for a bit that I might need to sign up for a PSA test to check for prostate cancer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_specific_antigen

Thank God I'm off the hook because I'm a woman!

PS: My father is majorly obese and has been nearly his entire adult life- had a few high PSA levels but was negative for cancer, then finally had a PSA test that was high and now DOES have prostate cancer. I think the blood test is more accurate than the finger (good news for guys!) but still produces both false positives and false negatives.
How do we KNOW you're a woman erbium?! Apparently you could grow up your whole life thinking you're a woman, when you actually have a Y chromosome! This isn't so uncommon! Plekto can tell you!

[Decade]

PLF, the funniest asshole in the world.

When you coming back to Beantown, masshole? I wanna buy you a beeah or 3

[Pierrot le Fou]

4/26~5/7.

Gonna watch a Sox game, drink some Sam Adams and Harpoon IPA, see my family, eat at John Harvards, and then return to the land of the rising sun and gainful employment.