Theory about natural urges

[Mastiker]

This might belong in the sex thread, but I'm not sure seeing as how it's the opposite of sex that I'm looking for.

I have made my own little theory about the way that sex works, and I may be way off base with this. I just want to get my opinions floating in the minds of others, and I would like to hear others on the topic.

My theory is pretty simple: everything in relation to sex, from attraction to the actual act of sex, is mostly subconscious. I can't gauge how much exactly, but for all intent purposes, let's just say mostly. The whole need for sex (i.e. horny) is nothing less than your mind telling you to procreate for the purposes of your race with a suitable mate. Since the time that most men get this urge is around the time when it is healthy to "spread their seed" and the time that women get the urge is when their bodies are strong enough to support a child, I believe it has to do with urges more than actual hornieness.

As for attraction, I believe it's fairly simple. You want your child to be with the most pleasing of features, so your mind automatically depicts the ones it likes for the purposes of furthering your family. Women with bigger hips are considered more attractive because they can support the birthing easier than a woman with narrower hips.

Genitailia are nothing more than peacock feathers - a way for a man to influence the female to mate with him. Does it actually matter if it's bigger? To a point. But will it be more attractive if it's bigger? Possibly.

Basically, these are just ideas floating in my head. :innocent:

[Pierrot le Fou]

Over-simplified. Sex feels good (or rather, getting off feels good, and sex is a common path to take to that end). Therefore we do it to feel good. There's no subconscious biological urge to do heroin, but there sure are a Hell of a lot of people who want to do it again and again even before they've tasted the bitter pain of withdrawl.

People like things that feel good. Sex feels good. I'm sure biology and whatnot have some hand in there, but for the most part it's the physiological fact that getting off is a splendid way to pass time.

[Angelyne]

Sigmund Freud wrote several books about this theory.

[gentlemanandscholar]

My theory is pretty simple: everything in relation to sex, from attraction to the actual act of sex, is mostly subconscious. I can't gauge how much exactly, but for all intent purposes, let's just say mostly. The whole need for sex (i.e. horny) is nothing less than your mind telling you to procreate for the purposes of your race with a suitable mate. Since the time that most men get this urge is around the time when it is healthy to "spread their seed" and the time that women get the urge is when their bodies are strong enough to support a child, I believe it has to do with urges more than actual hornieness.

This is basic biology. Our bodies are hard-wired for sexual activity. From pheromones to hormones, our body and psyche (Libido if you wanna go Freudian) influence a large part of our sexual appetite.
Read some Freud if you're interested in this stuff. You'll find a lot of overlap.

[Myrsilus]

I can definitely agree with PLF right here. Sex itself provides some good feelings, so why would people that know this not want to have sex? I wouldn't think people masturbate because they suddenly felt the urge to implant a seed in a lady's womb.

Now the drive to procreate, not just have sex, is something you should be considering more closely, Mastiker. If you need to look at another organism besides humans, look at bonobos and dolphins. They have what is speculated to be recreational sex, which is evident because they engage in intercourse even when the females are not ready for impregnation. And bonobos also engage in sex in different positions. This doesn't mean that they necessarily have sex so many times just because it feels good, but it's obviously more than just the need to procreate if their interest in having sex is not always for reproduction.

Sure, we as well as many other reproducing organisms are driven by hormones and whatnot to have sex, but for some creatures it isn't that simple. Hormones are not restricted to only one need; many things can happen in the brain to induce the production of a hormone. The human brain is really rather complex in how it can interpret a situation or feeling and instruct the body accordingly. The drive for sex and the drive for procreation seem the same, but I know you can pick out the differences. Basically just saying that you need to dig a bit deeper and possibly read up on hormones and stimuli.

I'd go ahead and read some Freud. It's interesting, albeit shocking for many people still. This is hardly applicable to the entire world, but I participated in a small survey with people in which we were to look at some theories by Freud and choose whether they could be true. A lot of people rejected his ideas right off the bat, even if many of his ideas are accepted as accurate nowadays. When some people were asked why they answered the way they did, they said that the ideas seemed crazy, gross, and impossible. Just a little interesting tidbit.

My rushed little rant is done. Time for the gym, because lifting weights makes me feel good, too.

[ZaichikArky]

My theory is pretty simple: everything in relation to sex, from attraction to the actual act of sex, is mostly subconscious. I can't gauge how much exactly, but for all intent purposes, let's just say mostly. The whole need for sex (i.e. horny) is nothing less than your mind telling you to procreate for the purposes of your race with a suitable mate. Since the time that most men get this urge is around the time when it is healthy to "spread their seed" and the time that women get the urge is when their bodies are strong enough to support a child, I believe it has to do with urges more than actual hornieness.


I disagree with everything. I don't think sex is subconscious in the least. I think humans evolved to get heightened sensations during sex and we're one of the very few species to not only ENJOY sex, but also we have sex whenever we want to, regardless of the females state of estrus. The only one other species that has sex all the time is the Bonobo(also called the "pygmy chimpanzee), our closest living ancestor. With females, I theorize that horniness comes perhaps at the time when they are the most reproductive and the most fertile. I know in my case I'm horny during the same time of my cycle every single month. This time is several days before my period starts. So I really think that horniness has more to do with hormones than with some subconscious urge to mate. Basically, your idea about when women get horny and when men get horny make no sense to me at all. What does it mean that a man gets horny when he is healthy to "spread his seed"? Until a man can no longer sustain an erection, he can "spread his seed" as many times as he pleases. Your explanation for when a women gets horny makes even less sense. A woman can have a child until she is in menopause...


As for attraction, I believe it's fairly simple. You want your child to be with the most pleasing of features, so your mind automatically depicts the ones it likes for the purposes of furthering your family. Women with bigger hips are considered more attractive because they can support the birthing easier than a woman with narrower hips.


Do you have any proof to back up that hips argument? I REALLY really doubt that a woman with bigger hips has an easier time having a baby than a woman with smaller hips, especially considering the female pelvis is structurally different from a male's pelvis to support the process of giving birth.

[Digital Masta]

Sigmund Freud wrote several books about this theory.

Freud had some crazy ass theories.

[Angelyne]

Freud had some crazy ass theories.

I never said that I agreed with him ;) Just pointing out that the OP's theory isn't exactly new or unheard of.

[TygressVirgo]

Do you have any proof to back up that hips argument? I REALLY really doubt that a woman with bigger hips has an easier time having a baby than a woman with smaller hips, especially considering the female pelvis is structurally different from a male's pelvis to support the process of giving birth.

I have seen and read several articles that state this same thing. I'll see if I can find any that support this. I have also known women who have been told they will have a harder time delivering a child naturally because their hips/pelvis is too narrow.

[Jetsetlemming]

Sex at it's base is biology, but there is so much more than that built on top of it. It's evolved in a mental and societal manner to be far more than reproduction.
The reason a woman would get horny every month at the same time a few days before her period is because that is the most fertile time in the menstrual cycle- the best time for intercourse resulting in sperm/egg relations. Read up on what goes on inside your uturus during your cycle. Basically, the egg moves from the ovaries long before the actual period, and enters the uturus. It attaches to the wall of the uturus, and builds flesh around it. If it is not seeded, it will quickly die, and the egg, the flesh, and blood will remove itself. It is during that time before it fails and comes out that you are horny, because it is in the best time period for impregnation. Married couples who are trying to get pregnant specifically plan for this time of the woman's cycle, and make sure to have sex as much as possible during it to achieve fertilization.

[erbiumfiber]

It's the hole INSIDE the hips through which the baby passes. Whether the size of this hole correlates to the width of the pelvis would be something to explore (and probably has been, ad nauseum but I don't know the results). The doctor measures this hole typically on the first visit of pregnancy by simultaneous manual measurement through the anus and vagina (good times, yeah).

After my measurement I was told that I could probably give birth to a Volkswagen beetle. Turns out this was a good thing as my daughter's head was in the 99th percentile...

For the record, my hips are not particularly wide...

[erbiumfiber]

Sex at it's base is biology, but there is so much more than that built on top of it. It's evolved in a mental and societal manner to be far more than reproduction.
The reason a woman would get horny every month at the same time a few days before her period is because that is the most fertile time in the menstrual cycle- the best time for intercourse resulting in sperm/egg relations. Read up on what goes on inside your uturus during your cycle. Basically, the egg moves from the ovaries long before the actual period, and enters the uturus. It attaches to the wall of the uturus, and builds flesh around it. If it is not seeded, it will quickly die, and the egg, the flesh, and blood will remove itself. It is during that time before it fails and comes out that you are horny, because it is in the best time period for impregnation. Married couples who are trying to get pregnant specifically plan for this time of the woman's cycle, and make sure to have sex as much as possible during it to achieve fertilization.

Wow, I don't even know where to begin here. Did people not take sex ed in school??? The EGG doesn't implant in the uterus, the blastocyst does. And an egg is often fertilized in the fallopian tubes. The best time to get pregnant is around ovulation, about in the MIDDLE of the menstrual cycle.

Here's a link to wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy

[Jetsetlemming]

I wrote that at 2 in the morning, 4 years after I took sex ed. :( No need to be mean about it. I got the basic concept right.

[Myrsilus]

In my sex ed class, we learned to be abstinent. That's pretty much it.

You all must have had great schools.

[Shishio]

One of my co-workers claims to have seen a video that showed flying penises while a song that started with "My body is changiinnnggg" played.

[Mastiker]

It's the hole INSIDE the hips through which the baby passes. Whether the size of this hole correlates to the width of the pelvis would be something to explore (and probably has been, ad nauseum but I don't know the results). The doctor measures this hole typically on the first visit of pregnancy by simultaneous manual measurement through the anus and vagina (good times, yeah).

After my measurement I was told that I could probably give birth to a Volkswagen beetle. Turns out this was a good thing as my daughter's head was in the 99th percentile...

For the record, my hips are not particularly wide...

This made me squeam a little, not cause of that whole "immature teenager" thing, but... the thought of a baby going through a bone D:

Anyway, my thought that wider hips = better support had been given to me through science classes ever since middle school. After so many years of it, you kind of say "hey, that makes sense"

@PLF: no duh sex feels good. I just was trying to find other reasons as to why we pursue it, or why it feels good in the first place. That gives me another part of my theory: it feels good because it has to. If it felt bad, we wouldn't have babies, would we? :innocent:

@everyone who suggested freud: I'll go look up on him next time I go to the library. Thanks for the tip ^.^

@zachiarky: Ah recreational sex. Forgot that phrase. Hmm I had something to say about it though... something about how rec-sex is leftover urges or something like that... but since I can't remember exactly what I was trying to say, I'll just leave that :innocent:

and for the hips thing: I can't find anything to prove my point, just a bunch of stuff to prove erbiumfiber's point about the hole in the pelvic being more important than the width.

@shishio: :eyepop: that's scarier than ours which described breasts as ski slopes and had mini people skiing down them XD

[SlickWilly440]

Yeah I took sex ed in middle school and they gave us the traditional Christian veiw of staying absinent and waiting to insert until marriage.

Then the professor said if you ever get urges just beat it off; it's quicker, funner, and more satisfying.....Liar!

[O-Matic]

I know this theory already, because I kindof think it's true. See, sex is our way to reach immortality. We don't die because we split into 50/50 parts of ourselves and hope that the other 50% can improve the overall of "ME".

And with this my dears, I think we are slaves of our bodies. No, worse: We are crackwhores! The brain gives us this happy-hormones whenever we do what it wants us to do, like sex. Something like: if you fall in love I'll give you a lot of this nice drug that makes you feel happyness.

And this is something we can't fight, so let's DO IT fellow humans!
Forget science, forget video games, cars and whatever else you like. Let's lead our nations to the following goal: Automated food production! Once everybody has free food and time we can do what we were born to do: YMCA!