Female Cops....

[kilreli]

So today i was running late while i made my way to my night class. I admit that i was slightly distracted, cause i didnt notice that i was going through a quick stretch of road that changed from 35mph to 25mph (about 150 yard down it turns back to 35mph).
So anyways, im driving fine and i look in my rear view mirror as im about to turn. A cop car is right on my butt. As most people do, i get a bit freaked when a cop is behind me, but i still turn like a champ and drive normal. after i make the turn the lights go on.
Son of a gun. So i wait, not nervous, not scared, not angry, just meh(:bored: ).
The cop comes up, turning out to be a woman and says to me, "i caught you 35 in a 25." and then quickly proceeds to questions. I had never been pulled over before so i wasnt sure how it all went, but i answered her question no which afterwards she retreated back to her car. she comes back 5 minutes later for a 105 dollar ticket. :knockout: says me. and were on our way.

Now i admit i still deserved the ticket but dont you think she coulda assessed the situation and maybe have let me off w/ a warning or something? I mean, my record is clean(though i admit ive only been driving since October...), it was just 35 moments ago and changed back into 35 right where i was pulled over. i dunno. Simple mistake maybe?
Anyways, i was disappointed to have a woman cop, cause i know that they usually go harder on people to do a "show/demand my authority" kind of thing. Not all do this, i know, but all the ones that have pulled people over that ive been in a car with have done it. Too bad i didnt get a nice veteran older male cop.:meh:

So not to piss off or offend any of the ladies, but has anyone else noticed that female cops are predominantly more mean/tough. also would it help that she was asian?

on more slightly off main topic question. is it true that cops have a quota they have to meet? i didnt want to use this as an excuse against her, and im not, its just that less than 10 miles in the areas before and after i got the ticket there were cops with people pulled over.

sorry for a long rant :mario:

[ellie]

One of my good friends from high school is a cop now. So I, of course, have asked her a million questions about it. She says that there isn't a quota, that's just an urban legend.

Also, she said that she decides where or not to give you a ticket before she even talks to you. Based on your attitude before you even open your mouth determines if she will give you a ticket (I mean, unless she finds drugs or whatever or if it's bad.) She says she wouldn't pull anyone for going 5 over, and would maybe pull for 10 over depending on where and what the circumstances were.

I haven't had too much experience with cops (thank god!) so I don't really know, personally, if guy or girl cops are worse.

[Psychochink]

The moral of this story is...obey the speed limit.

[c-rex]

You got the ticket because you failed at talking your way out of it. I've never had an issue with female police and one of my friends managed to not only weasel out of the ticket, but get her number when our hockey van got stopped. I normally say I'm sorry without clarifying what I'm sorry for. For example never say "I'm sorry for speeding" since at that point you admitted to it, that can come back to haunt you if you end up in court. I normally apologize and go with a story. My best story is I'm out to pick up the pizzas since I have some friends over and we're all hungry. I've gotten three speeding tickets turned into warnings on that one. But just apologize, act polite and you'll be fine. A couple of general things the police like is if it is at dark out turn on your dome light right after you pull over, this lets them see you. Second stick your hands at 10 and 2 on the steering well and for the love of god do not go reaching under your seat. Finally don't release your seatbelt until the police have seen you wearing it. My friend was pulled over and released his seatbelt so he could go fish around for his paperwork. He got a speeding ticket and a failure to wear seatbelt ticket.

My last bit of advice is to move to a state where you can be doing 90 mph in a 70 mph and the cop will pull up next to you, look over at you and then continue on down the road. Thank you Michigan State Troopers for your complete and utter interest in enforcing the speedlimit on US-23.

[h2orowe]

On a completely unrelated side note, I don't know if this is a regional thing or not - but pretty much every female cop I see is cute and I want to do all sorts of depraved, perverted things to them.
ME AND MY FRIEND WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS!

[japanat]

35mph to a 25mph-zone for 150yds or so, back to 35? $105? Either a school zone or a hospital zone, I would guess. Not too many cops are gonna let that slide, especially not to a teen (trying to teach you a lesson, etc); male or female don't matter.

[Digital Masta]

To answer one of the original questions. Yes, I have noticed that female cops tend to seem more mean that mean. However thats most likely because they have to be.

[kilreli]

35mph to a 25mph-zone for 150yds or so, back to 35? $105? Either a school zone or a hospital zone, I would guess. Not too many cops are gonna let that slide, especially not to a teen (trying to teach you a lesson, etc); male or female don't matter.
nah it was main road, that branched into smaller comminity road, and then turned into a main road ahead. Though, i guess to be fair, if i woulda stayed on that road i would have remained 25 until the road ended, which was just one more another block. just thought of that. but def not a school zone or a hospital, though about a mile down was a college and then a mile from that a hospital
You got the ticket because you failed at talking your way out of it. I've never had an issue with female police and one of my friends managed to not only weasel out of the ticket, but get her number when our hockey van got stopped. I normally say I'm sorry without clarifying what I'm sorry for. For example never say "I'm sorry for speeding" since at that point you admitted to it, that can come back to haunt you if you end up in court. I normally apologize and go with a story. My best story is I'm out to pick up the pizzas since I have some friends over and we're all hungry. I've gotten three speeding tickets turned into warnings on that one. But just apologize, act polite and you'll be fine.
yeah usually ill be really nice and oversay my please and thankyou's(to authority figures that is), but this time i really wasnt in a suck up mood. I didnt say sorry right off that bat (though looking back and after reading your post i should have), and when she gave me the ticket i didnt say anything "thank you" which was what my normal reaction could be. I just took it regular. i did tell her to have a nice night though..

Next time i get pulled over ill have a huge smile waiting for them...which will probably make them suspicious and then they'll throw me to the ground and search my car.....danget:gloomy: (joke)

Edit:
And also, the reasion its $105 is cause anything they pull you over for that is up to 10 mph over the speed limit is automatically that much. i think if its 11-19 its $125(or something). so hey, maybe i was going 36 and she let me off easy. I shoulda asked to see the radar gun :stirthepo, but then if it was 36, i would be screwed

[Josh]

My teacher was a police officer and he said, on the topic of quotas, that there aren't quotas per se. Its more of a keeping in line with the other guys you work with.

The example he used was if there are four cops that work within the same area and three of the guys give out 40 tickets and one gives out about twenty, that one cop could be picked out for possibly not doing their job very well. But on the flip side of that, if the three cops get 40 and the one gets 70, then that cop could get in trouble for giving out tickets for lots of little things.

And yes, I have noticed some female cops to be slightly more aggressive, but that usually isn't the case. Its all about how you come across within, as ellie said, the first few seconds of contact that decide whether you get a ticket or not.

[Masa the Masta]

I live in California, and I find myself doing about 10 over a lot and I've never been pulled over.

I think depending on the flow of traffic (everyone's going fast, you can't impede traffic either by obeying the speed limit) and where exactly the speed limit is posted, and whether or not the cop is a douche, is all dependent on whether or not you get a ticket.

I've never been pulled over, but I don't plan on it. Fuck that, I don't want a ticket. Some speed limits (outside of school zones and what not) are complete bullshit.

[Pierrot le Fou]

Perhaps this will shed some light on the subject?
The Sunday Times December 31, 2006
Office queen bees hold back women’s careers (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2524299.html)

FORGET “jobs for the boys”. Women bosses are significantly more likely than men to discriminate against female employees, research has suggested.
The study found that when presented with applications for promotion, women were more likely than men to assess the female candidate as less qualified than the male one.

They were also prone to mark down women’s prospects for promotion and to assess them as more controlling than men in their management style.

The findings, based on experiments carried out among more than 700 people, suggest that the “queen bee syndrome” of female rivalry in the workplace may sometimes be as important as sexism in holding back women’s careers.

“Female and older participants showed more prejudice against the (idea of a) female leader than did male and younger participants,” said Rocio Garcia-Retamero, a psychologist at the Max Planck Institute for Human Development in Berlin and lead author of the report.

Garcia-Retamaro said the findings showed that many people adopted a stereotypical view that leadership was a masculine notion. “(This) leads to a bias against a female candidate’s promotion to a leadership post,” she said.

Nicola Horlick, the City financier nicknamed “Superwoman” for combining a demanding job with a large family, said some women looked on other women as a threat and preferred to surround themselves with men.

“It is called the ‘queen bee syndrome’,” she said. “I have seen women in managerial positions discriminating against other women, possibly because they like to be the only female manager or woman in the workplace.”

Recent cases that have illustrated this problem include that of Helen Green, 36, a Deutsche Bank employee from London. In August she was awarded nearly £800,000 in damages after two years of bullying by four female colleagues that eventually led to a nervous breakdown.

The research, carried out by Garcia-Retamaro and her colleague Ester Lopez-Zafra, has just been published in the journal Sex Roles.

They used 705 participants living in southern Spain to evaluate the credentials of a male and female employee of a make-believe corporation who were proposed for promotion to a managerial position as a production supervisor.

After reading a description of the role and company, the participants were told to read each potential leader’s CV and imagine their characteristics and likely success by evaluating them on several issues related to the job.

This included looking at the likelihood that the candidate would receive an increase in salary, whether they had the right skills and if they would win the acceptance of colleagues. They also assessed how likely they might be to receive promotion and were asked to take into account stereotypical traits of men and women such as sensitivity or aggression.

The study says: “Female participants had a stronger tendency than male participants to view the female candidates as less qualified than the male candidate . . . they also thought that the female candidate would fare worse in the future in her job than the male candidate.”

It adds: “Female participants predicted that the male candidate would show a more laissez-faire leadership style than the female candidate would.”

Katherine Rake, director of the Fawcett Society which campaigns for sexual equality, said stereotyping was more important than female rivalry in holding back women’s careers: “Stereotypes about what is an appropriate role for women are still very strong in people’s minds and there is still a cultural barrier to women making it into senior positions.”

[kilreli]

hmm, interesting. is it possible, though, that the males who took that test may have been nondiscrimitory(is that a word? :/) on purpose? you know, with it being easy to bring in lawsuits for that type of thing?

Note: just curious.

[Plekto]

But I have to admint - yeah, Female officers are every bit as hot in real life as they are in anime - or darn close to it.

As for talking your way out of it, it's tricky. OTOH, since I don't speed more than 5mph at any time, ever(or make sure I'm the third slowest car and not in the fast lane), I only get pulled over for moving violoations, which are easy to talk your way out of - and are inexpensive usually.

The other week I got pulled over and given a warning for going through a yellow light(turned yellow after I entered the intersection, but my truck is PITA slow when going uphill - it was almost turning red by the time I was leaving it). These sorts of things are always a grey area at best, so the officer has to be really pissed at you or life to bother, because they're also very easy to fight in court compared to a nice 50mph on radar in a 35 zone.

In short, no speeding. :) But $105 is kind of high - it must have been a construction zone and she was trolling or something.

[Pierrot le Fou]

hmm, interesting. is it possible, though, that the males who took that test may have been nondiscrimitory(is that a word? :/) on purpose? you know, with it being easy to bring in lawsuits for that type of thing?

Note: just curious.
It's a study designed to control for the factors which would influence the results (like employment being dependent on your answers). In other words, no, it's not likely that the men tried harder to be non-discriminatory.

[kilreli]

In short, no speeding. :) But $105 is kind of high - it must have been a construction zone and she was trolling or something.
nah it wasnt even a construction zone. its just...the cleveland police. my dad hates them. I called him up after my class and i told him the situation and i added that she was female and he was like, "It was the Asian one wasnt it?" me=:eyepop:
then he says, "yeah ive seen her hangin out that area...."
He hates tickets. ah well.
I was trying to think about this on several occasions, but i truthfully never had that many in the car experiences in Japan, so ill ask you guys. Sure ive seen kobans and stuff, but do the police usually go the "catch you speeding" route in japan? like i said, i never saw anyone pulled over by a cop, but i was usually on a train or on a bike. any answers from you Japan vets?
It's a study designed to control for the factors which would influence the results (like employment being dependent on your answers). In other words, no, it's not likely that the men tried harder to be non-discriminatory.
I see.

[Cherub Rock]

I've only been pulled once, by a middle-aged black woman over the holidays a few years back. It was after my first semester of college and I was back home so some friends and I decided to go into town. We were driving back and I was pulled over and told that my license plate tag had expired. So after finding my license and registration I told her that I had just come back from college and that I hadn't driven the car in months, so I had forgotten to put the new tag on the license plate. She gave me warning ticket and I had something like a week to get it signed by an officer showing that my registration was up to date. Turned out my sticker was at home under a giant pile of mail and my mom had just forgotten to give it to me. I'd never dealt with that sort of thing before so it completely slipped my mind.

In other words, my first experience with getting pulled was relatively pleasant. I could have gotten a ticket but I didn't, and the lady was pretty understanding.

It was actually funnier trying to approach an officer about getting my warning ticket signed off. It took me forever before I found one bagging groceries in a supermarket (ha!).

[Kaji]

Quotas vary by region, I think. I have a few friends on the force in Prince William County who have reported that there is one day a month where they have quotas, rest doesn't matter. My grandfather, who was on the San Jose police reserve for 20 years, put it this way, "I don't have a quota. I can give out as many of these as I want to."

[yogi]

(in Australia) I speed alot.. mostly you get caught by camera trucks on the side of the road.. Then you get the ticket in the mail.. no talking out of that one.

I have been pulled over once for speeding 75km in a 60 zone.. But I was polite and turned of my music etc. So he gave me the minimum ticket which was good, cause otherwise I would of lost my license.

But that was a guy..

Once a friend of mine and me were driving back home (been drinking) when the cops pulled us over 15-10 meters from my friends house.. The the alcohol blower thing didn't work (batteries died) so the male cop goes to his female partner "Nah look at him, he looks straight" (he wasn't) So they let us off. There was no way the girl was going to though, she wanted to be a hardarse.

My friend later said (hes a black South African) "Glad I had you with me, a white boy in the car was good defense and the reason they let us go."

So going by my anecdotal evidence I would say a female cop is much more by the book.. Ive never seen one on her own here though, they always have a dude with them.

[Overkongen]

Lotta different things to say here...

I know a girl who is in copper training. She is hot as hell, and always wears skimpy clothing. I also want to do dirty and depraved things to all female cops, but her especially.

I've only ever talked my way out of a parking ticket. I was walking back to my car, when I saw that there well-known uniform... So I walk up to her, and instead of sprouting all kinds of stupid excuses, our conversation goes something like this:

Me: Hi, that's my car, you can just give me the ticket.
Her: It's yours? Yeah, because it is illegally parked, isn't it?
Me: Absolutely. I won't make up any stupid excuses, or give you shit about giving me a ticket, I know that I deserve it.
Her: Awww, quick, get in and drive off!

Also, one of my father's co-workers was driving above the limit in a nice suit. He get's pulled over, and in my country, you can get out of the car when that happens. So he jumps out, and calls to the officer:
"Please, I'm late for my own wedding!"

He got off just like that.

Oh, and female cops are still hot.

[Noata]

Also, one of my father's co-workers was driving above the limit in a nice suit. He get's pulled over, and in my country, you can get out of the car when that happens. So he jumps out, and calls to the officer:
"Please, I'm late for my own wedding!"


Win, I can't drive yet :[

[Soli]

If I got pulled over by a cop, I'd probably cry. XD

Well, at least you know not to go over the limit even just a bit.

[Kass]

Crying doesn't work. Cops assume you're faking ot get out of it and get annoyed. Being nice and contrite does wonders.

A friend of mine was pulled over for speeding (like 15 mph over). The cop walked up to her car and asked, "Do you know why I stopped you?"

Without missing a beat she said, "To give me a warning?" The cop smiled, went back to his car with her license and insurance info and came back with a warning.

Kaji, Prince William County is one giant speed trap. You can get a speeding ticket for going 26 in a 25 and it doesn't matter if you were actually going the speed limit. Most PWC cops have serious sticks up their butts. Manassas is the WORST. Of course, one PWC cop got arrested for telling and insisting that pretty, young women they had to blow/screw him if they didn't want a ticket. He's out on bond I believe, awaiting trial for numerous offenses.

I drive 5 mph UNDER the speed limit pretty much everywhere in PWC.

[japanat]

I got nailed for 22kph over on my cycle in Japan. They set speed traps, then a cop steps out from behind a car or building, even a tree, with a sign that says to stop. There's a table with 4 or 5 chairs, and they just make a collection. Cost me 12K yen, 2pts and driver's class.

Lately I've been seeing more patrol cars and CHIP's-style motorcycles running the highways and national roads, pulling people over.

I also got pulled over one time for blazing a yellow at high speed. The cop car came around the corner, flipped his lights and called on the megaphone for me to stop. I pulled over and took off my helmet.... blonde hair exposed... The cops suddenly used the mega to say "Yellow, stop. Slow down!", then took off. I laughed all the way to work.

[Y.T.]

Ha.. a friend of mine got pulled over for ... I think they were in another city, and blundered into a one way street (empty save for a cop car) ..

They looked like metal fans .. The cop asked them whether they were at a certain music festival. They said yes... so he asked them if they don't remember him from the podium..

They got off with a warning.

Other ways to get off without paying is pretending to be a redneck boob (my father's colleague, a programmer with a university degree knew how to pull that off .. ).
(Or a stressed, harried wife .. my mother once avoided paying that way. Didn't have to act very much ..)

Makes me wonder whether I'll ever get ticketed for the way I ride my bike.
Red lights serve only as an inspiration. If the cars have red light, the pedestrians don't, so I just ride over the crossing.. I don't know whether riding 40 kph in a 30 kph zone counts as speeding, but I often do that. Not to mention that riding faster than walking speed on sidewalks isn't exactly permitted ..

[Kurogetsu]

Female cops in my area tend to be built more like me


Ewww.


But, I've got a friend that's a sheriff now, but use to work for county. He told me that there is no "quota", but if you don't produce a certain amount of tickets, then it affects your annual leave.

[setrict]

On a side note, you might call around and talk to a lawyer about the ticket. Sometimes they can bargain down to a different violation, one that won't cause your insurance to skyrocket. The $105 is nothing compared to how much your insurance may jump if you are a new/young driver.

[TygressVirgo]

I love driving in California . . . and then I hate it =(

10mph over the speed limit is standard here. 15 mph on the freeways is required if you don't want dirty looks and honking horns.

[Kaji]

I love driving in California . . . and then I hate it =(

10mph over the speed limit is standard here. 15 mph on the freeways is required if you don't want dirty looks and honking horns.

Seconded. It was kind of interesting getting my license again (in San Jose this time) for the first time in 4 years when the only places I'd ever done any extensive driving prior were PWC and Fredericksburg, VA...

[Plekto]

And then you get older and don't care. ;) Of course, driving an old 4Runner with the off-road bumpers(nerf bars) and lights and the such - all looking like it's well, as old and off-roaded as it is... It has a certain cool yet "looks slow" to it - so nobody honks at me. They just drive around me. :)

Well, the thing maxxes out at about 70mph as well, so that's part of it I'm going 70 and they're going 80-85.

[Kaji]

Eeeew...I had to drive my aunt's 4Runner across town once because she was too drunk to do so and we had to get back to my grandfather's house. Power issues aside, the thing must not have had power steering or something, because turning it was a bitch...

[TygressVirgo]

4Runners ROCK!

It was funny, my boyfriend and I just had his uncle and aunt visit us from Michigan. His first day here, he took the Carpool Lane, speed limit was 65, so he did 70. He had people crossing the double yellow just to flip him the bird, pass him, and drive the So Cal way. His Uncle didn't like our freeways, he stuck to the first lane where 70mph is ok. He said the next time he comes to California, that my boyfriend or I will be doing all the driving :frypan:.

I feel sorry for people who visit here in So Cal, our drivers are quite a bit mean if you don't drive the way we do out here.

[Trump]

Eeeew...I had to drive my aunt's 4Runner across town once because she was too drunk to do so and we had to get back to my grandfather's house. Power issues aside, the thing must not have had power steering or something, because turning it was a bitch...

Maybe that was why she got drunk? Hell, I'd get drunk if I knew I'd have to drive something without power steering home!