had a question about hotels since my dad is fucking stupid

[deepbluevibes]

ok, so we're going back to tokyo again as some of you may know.

i have looked this up before many places and i know about the whole "pay months in advance rent" thing when you rent an apartment in tokyo.

however, he absolutely will not believe that you have to pay a month or so in advance for rent for apartments unless he sees people responding to this with the fact that yes, this is true.

the reason i bring this up is that he wants to stay in an apartment while we're here, that says for 2 weeks it will be 1,935 dollars for 3 people.

i got one question myself though: it's in suginami-ku, how far is that from shinjuku, and how far is 3-5-6 suginami-ku from the train station, and i'm guessing it's not on the main JR line so you need to take two trains just to get to shinjuku, right?

[Crowley]

You're going to show your dad a thread on a message board telling him he's "fucking stupid"?

This is the dad that (I assume) is PAYING FOR YOU TO GO TO TOKYO?

What is this? Ungrateful spoiled brat month on OP9?

[Eddie Echoplex]

What is this? Ungrateful spoiled brat month on OP9?

Hey, I'm not a spoiled brat.

[Crowley]

THEN, sir, YOU CANNOT POST THIS MONTH.

[mikem]

the reason i bring this up is that he wants to stay in an apartment while we're here, that says for 2 weeks it will be 1,935 dollars for 3 people.

He is right and you are wrong. Dumbass kids. Seriously you don't know shit and you won't know shit until you grow up. Which will probably take a while.

A corporate apartment is exactly what I did my first trip to Tokyo and it was awesome. The only difference was ours was that price for one week and in the middle of Azabu Juban which is a short walk to Roppongi.

i got one question myself though: it's in suginami-ku, how far is that from shinjuku, and how far is 3-5-6 suginami-ku from the train station, and i'm guessing it's not on the main JR line so you need to take two trains just to get to shinjuku, right?

That address is right here. (http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?f=q&hl=ja&q=%E6%9D%89%E4%B8%A6%E5%8C%BA%EF%BC%93%EF%BC%8D%EF %BC%95%EF%BC%8D%EF%BC%96&ie=UTF8&z=13&ll=35.676542,139.644127&spn=0.102352,0.188484&om=1&iwloc=addr)

Looks like you are a 1 or 2 minute walk from that train station there. You can't really get much closer.

One station away you switch trains and hit Shinjuku. Or if you stayed on that line you'd hit Shibuya which I personally find superior to Shinjuku, but that's just an opinion.

Also, you could walk to either one in about an hour. I've done longer walks so its really not that bad, but that's just me. (Walking for an hour isn't bad when you pass a conbini every 10 minutes.)

Oh, one more thing I just noticed. If you take the train the other way you can get to kichijouji which I think is a pretty cool place. There's this really awesome meat ball thing selling place there. It's easy to find because of the line.

The only better place to stay would be to stay inside of the Yamanote loop, but that would be twice as expensive and not necessarily twice as fun. So really shut the fuck up. You dad is taking you to Japan which is pretty fucking awesome.

:dj:

[deepbluevibes]

He is right and you are wrong. Dumbass kids. Seriously you don't know shit and you won't know shit until you grow up. Which will probably take a while.

you are how old? i'm 21. thanks for assuming.

A corporate apartment

i'm not talking about a corporate one. this one is independently owned.

The only better place to stay would be to stay inside of the Yamanote loop, but that would be twice as expensive and not necessarily twice as fun. So really shut the fuck up.

how about not trying to sound hard on a message board? btw, you're wrong again. :D

www.google.com
search "shinjuku new city hotel"

3 people rate on 3 beds for 2 weeks at this hotel, right in the middle of shinjuku, extremely good quality hotel, is: 680 or so dollars per person

3 people rate on 1 bed and 1 couch for 2 weeks at this apartment, at the adress I listed, is: 650 dollars per person

damn, that's twice as expensive huh?

You dad is taking you to Japan which is pretty fucking awesome.

This is the dad that (I assume) is PAYING FOR YOU TO GO TO TOKYO?

wrong, i'm paying for the flight, hotel, food, arcades, commodities 100% myself. thanks for assuming :D

i forgot, if you don't know japanese fluently and if you aren't elitist, you just get treated like shit on these boards by the mass majority of posters since they assume everything about you to be whatever they stereotype.

anyways, thanks for the help (i guess?)

[悲しいパンダ]

wheeeeee!!!! Its gonna be a flaming thread! :clap:

[Soli]

i forgot, if you don't know japanese fluently and if you aren't elitist, you just get treated like shit on these boards by the mass majority of posters since they assume everything about you to be whatever they stereotype.

That's not true. :knockout:

The people on this board are nice and will help you if you ask (in a polite and smart manner! Insulting your dad in the thread title wasn't very useful).

P.S. I'm sorry I can't help you with your question. I feel bad for posting. But I don't like watching someone insult a ton of people who are actually really nice like that.

[Crowley]

you are how old? i'm 21. thanks for assuming.

21 is a kid.

i forgot, if you don't know japanese fluently and if you aren't elitist, you just get treated like shit on these boards by the mass majority of posters since they assume everything about you to be whatever they stereotype.

Wrong. If you come on these boards and called your dad fucking stupid over a disagreement, generally have a piss-poor attitude, and act like a stuck up cock...

[PopCulturePooka]

Deepblue, using cuntrag who only comes here when he has question he is too lazy to research is back again. And what does he bring?

A question he is too lazy to research.

Amazing.

[羽之助]

search "shinjuku new city hotel"

3 people rate on 3 beds for 2 weeks at this hotel, right in the middle of shinjuku, extremely good quality hotel, is: 680 or so dollars per person

3 people rate on 1 bed and 1 couch for 2 weeks at this apartment, at the adress I listed, is: 650 dollars per person

damn, that's twice as expensive huh?

I did search. What's your math?

Triple room @ 18 500 yen per night, times 21 days of stay, equals 388 500 yen, or roughly $3300 USD.

Not twice as expensive, but just about 150%. And farther away from the station, too. The apartment is looking good if you're on the cheap, plus if there's a kitchen (which there obviously is, right?) you save on food.

Perhaps a link to the apartment owner's page, if there is one, would have helped.

Edit: I fucked up on my math, as it's 2 weeks, not 3.

[deepbluevibes]

That's not true. :knockout:

The people on this board are nice and will help you if you ask (in a polite and smart manner! Insulting your dad in the thread title wasn't very useful).

P.S. I'm sorry I can't help you with your question. I feel bad for posting. But I don't like watching someone insult a ton of people who are actually really nice like that.

i said *most*. i met one of my best friends on this forum, so i know there are nice people, and you seem to be one of them.

but you can't ignore how extremely flame-prone the majority of people here are.

considering my dad pretty much refuses to believe anything but what he "knows", and i'd been arguing with him all morning, yeah, i was pissed off, we get into fights and get out of them within about 5 minutes after the argument's over (i.e. forgotten about and are happy again).

21 is a kid.

Wrong. If you come on these boards and called your dad fucking stupid over a disagreement, generally have a piss-poor attitude, and act like a stuck up cock...

do you know my family? no. you don't. so don't assume.

as i said above, me and my dad cuss each other out like crazy for an hour straght, but then after the argument's resolved, we're fine and happy again, and have no ill will towards each other within minutes.

sorry that you can't understand that :(

and stuck up? i do believe you were the first to throw insults towards me without any reason to do so, and assume that i was not paying for my trip. pot calling the kettle black there much? yeah.

oh and by the way: 21 isn't a kid. Young by some definitions maybe, but not "a kid". learn english thanks :D

Deepblue, using cuntrag who only comes here when he has question he is too lazy to research is back again. And what does he bring?

A question he is too lazy to research.

Amazing.


i have looked this up before many places and i know about the whole "pay months in advance rent" thing when you rent an apartment in tokyo.

however, he absolutely will not believe that you have to pay a month or so in advance for rent for apartments unless he sees people responding to this with the fact that yes, this is true.

learn english grammatical structure thanks, and learn to read posts, i already researched it on these very boards, you lose again for trying to look hard, thanks :D why are you posting again?

just to talk shit, oh, right.

I did search. What's your math?

Triple room @ 18 500 yen per night, times 21 days of stay

ummmmm

3 people rate on 3 beds for [b]2 weeks

14 days, is probably where your math went wrong. not trying to be an asshole but yeah, check the post i did again, there is only less than 50 dollars difference for 2 weeks stay at either place.

and farther from the station? uhhhh... the apartment where i'd be staying is 15 minutes from the yamanote line, shinjuku new city hotel is 5, at most. i know i didn't give the adress of the apartment but yeah.. don't follow the example set by others on this board by assuming :-/

with that, hope you guys learn to read my post more instead of assuming and being an asshole the second you get the chance :D (not directed to everyone i quoted obviously, only some)

and i'm out of this thread

[aargon]

your dad does sound like a fucking idiot. You should introduce him to Crowley, they have alot in common.

My parents visited here last year and we rented them a weekly apartment for 3 weeks near where we lived. We had to book then pay in advance. It makes abit of common sense that you would be expected to pay in advance or make a deposit because of the length of your stay should you cancel and they lose out by turning away other customers.

You should also maybe introduce your dad to Mikem who sounds like an equally stupid fuck to make a comparison with corporate housing vs publicly available accommodation.

:frypan:

[PopCulturePooka]

i said *most*. i met one of my best friends on this forum, so i know there are nice people, and you seem to be one of them.

but you can't ignore how extremely flame-prone the majority of people here are. Funnily enough, most people aren't 'flmae prone' here unless the person being flamed deserves it. You get flamed a alot. Do the math.


oh and by the way: 21 isn't a kid. Young by some definitions maybe, but not "a kid". learn english thanks :D
Shut up and respect your elders and betters kid.



learn english grammatical structure thanks,Not like you're worth the concentration.

and learn to read posts, I did, and its like all your other posts.

The ones where you bring NOTHING to this community and use it as your own personal travel agent. The only time I've seen you here not asking a question is when you posted a video of yourself having an epileptic fit on some video game.

you lose again for trying to look hard,When someone of value tells me this I'll believe. Right now its just a nobody telling me this.

why are you posting again?Becuase I can. Why are you? Oh right, to use us again. Find another board to annoy, maybe jref or letsjapan.

just to talk shit, oh, right.To have shits and giggles with a nobody that no-one will defend.


with that, hope you guys learn to read my post more instead of assuming and being an asshole the second you get the chance :D (not directed to everyone i quoted obviously, only some)

and i'm out of this threadGive us something worth reading.

[stsparky]

While I'll agree you're a kid to many of us - at 21 you don't want to come across as needy and uncooperative. Many of us enjoyed your videos.

I think you can get a better deal if you do a more thorough search. Why 3 people? Either way you can make a better deal at the Kimi Hotel:
Kimi Ryokan http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/star_meter1.gif (http://www.frommers.com/destinations/tokyo/H31002.html#)
Address 2-36-8 Ikebukuro
Location Toshima-ku, Ikebukuro
Transportation Station: Ikebukuro (west exit, 5 min.). The police station (take the west exit from Ikebukuro Station and turn right) has maps that will guide you to Kimi.
Phone 03/3971-3766
Fax 03/3987-1326
Web site www.kimi-ryokan.jp (http://www.kimi-ryokan.jp/)
Room Information: 38 units (none with bathroom)
Prices: ¥4,500 ($37) single;
¥6,500-¥7,500 ($54-$62) double.
Rates include tax
Credit Cards Not Accepted
In Room Amenities A/C

This has long been a Tokyo favorite for inexpensive Japanese-style lodging. Spotlessly clean and with such Japanese touches as sliding screens, flower arrangements in public spaces, and traditional Japanese music playing softly in the hallways, it caters almost exclusively to foreigners (mostly 20-somethings) and is so popular there's sometimes a waiting list. A bulletin board lists rental apartments and job opportunities (primarily teaching English); a lounge with cable TV is a favorite hangout and a good place to network with other travelers. Rooms are Japanese style, with singles and the cheapest doubles the size of 4 1/2 tatami mats, and the larger doubles the size of six tatami mats (a single tatami measures 1m by 1.8m/3 ft. by 6 ft.). Note that there's a 1am curfew.

Fax them if they can accomodate three of you.

[Shamu]

To agree a bit with the OP, I don't post a lot in All Things Japan as much as I'd like to (I'm studying Japanese and always have questions!) because you guys seem to be pretty mean/harsh around here. So I mostly just lurk here =/. I won't name names as to who is mean (I think you can guess), but so far, the only people that really seem cool/nice over here are 羽之助 and Japanat (and a few others... maybe...) I don't count Neko because she hangs around the other forums too and she's crazy/cool everywhere.

I dunno, despite agreeing with what most of you said about the OP, y'all just seem so...mean

*goes back to lurking ATJ and attention whoring in the other forums* :box:

EDIT: on topic, I have no idea about Japanese hotels and stuff =/

[aargon]

While I'll agree you're a kid to many of us - at 21 you don't want to come across as needy and uncooperative. Many of us enjoyed your videos.

I think you can get a better deal if you do a more thorough search. Why 3 people? Either way you can make a better deal at the Kimi Hotel:
Kimi Ryokan http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/star_meter1.gif (http://www.frommers.com/destinations/tokyo/H31002.html#)
Address 2-36-8 Ikebukuro
Location Toshima-ku, Ikebukuro
Transportation Station: Ikebukuro (west exit, 5 min.). The police station (take the west exit from Ikebukuro Station and turn right) has maps that will guide you to Kimi.
Phone 03/3971-3766
Fax 03/3987-1326
Web site www.kimi-ryokan.jp (http://www.kimi-ryokan.jp/)
Room Information: 38 units (none with bathroom)
Prices: ¥4,500 ($37) single;
¥6,500-¥7,500 ($54-$62) double.
Rates include tax
Credit Cards Not Accepted
In Room Amenities A/C

This has long been a Tokyo favorite for inexpensive Japanese-style lodging. Spotlessly clean and with such Japanese touches as sliding screens, flower arrangements in public spaces, and traditional Japanese music playing softly in the hallways, it caters almost exclusively to foreigners (mostly 20-somethings) and is so popular there's sometimes a waiting list. A bulletin board lists rental apartments and job opportunities (primarily teaching English); a lounge with cable TV is a favorite hangout and a good place to network with other travelers. Rooms are Japanese style, with singles and the cheapest doubles the size of 4 1/2 tatami mats, and the larger doubles the size of six tatami mats (a single tatami measures 1m by 1.8m/3 ft. by 6 ft.). Note that there's a 1am curfew.

Fax them if they can accomodate three of you.

hotels dont have kitchens so you cant cook and have to eat out.
This was the deciding factor in me getting my parents an apartment to stay in... nothing beats mums home made cooking.

[japanat]

A couple of comments on this thread:

!) DeepBlue and Aargon, you do know what corporate housing means, don't you? It doesn't mean corporately-owned, nor that all clients are corporate. It means short-term rentals w/o excessive deposits which contain all the living necessities such as dishes, pots & pans, sheets and towels, such as traveling businesspeople would need for stays of more than a few days.

2) Be careful of costs. I haven't researched this, so I freely admit I may be wrong, but make sure the prices you're looking at are per unit day or per person. Most prices for hotels, etc, quoted in Japan are per person, not per party.

3) Everyone take a chill pill! Shit, if you think he's being lazy and not researching, tell him so. But in his first post he said he had researched it and just wanted some confirmation to show his father.

4) Check out this site: http://fudosan.yoursnet.com/rosen.htm

Good luck

[aargon]

I dunno, despite agreeing with what most of you said about the OP, y'all just seem so...mean


This poses an interesting question. Why are people so mean here?

Maybe because there is no law and order or good role models or even rules of etiquette in this forum for people to behave (or they are there, but they`re not enforced very well?)

Or maybe because there is no censorship. You can say fuck fuck fuck to someone and not get censored. You can bitch slap someone and not get censored. Its democracy/freedom of speech at its worst.

Or maybe its the age group of people that post here. From the juvenile delinquents and Japanophiles who have no social graces to the burnt out, angry, have a grudge against everyone ex/current english teachers.

Or maybe people are trying to outsmart or outwit each other or just take out their frustrations on daily life here (touch wood)

Or maybe its just society as a whole?

Anyone read the book lord of the files?

[Shamu]

I guess it just doesn't seem all that welcoming over here =/
I tell my bf to try and mod a bit more over here, but it doesn't seem to interest him.

[aargon]

I guess it just doesn't seem all that welcoming over here =/
I tell my bf to try and mod a bit more over here, but it doesn't seem to interest him.

nothing to be gained by being a mod i wouldnt have thought? your restricted in everything you say and do. Unless of course your moralistic christian.

[stsparky]

Leopalace21
http://www.eg.leopalace21.com/index.html

Winbell Monthly Mansion Yoyogi
http://www.dango.ne.jp/winbell/english.html

Weekly Mansion Tokyo (Japanese) though follow up link is English
http://www.wmt.co.jp/ -> http://www.themansions.jp/

Guest Houses and apartments (Tokyo): http://www.kopra.org/?site_id=211

Kimi Information Center: http://www.kimiwillbe.com/map.html

[Shamu]

nothing to be gained by being a mod i wouldnt have thought? your restricted in everything you say and do. Unless of course your moralistic christian.
Say what now? Maybe it's the head injury my horse gave me earlier today, but wha? How are you restricted if you're a mod? If anything, you have more power to do stuff.

I have no idea what this has to do with Japanese hotels, but yeah...

[Nannou]

JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

[Saitou Hajime]

You're restricted as a mod because you have to be fair, right down the middle, with things you say and do or people are going to be all over your booty like pirates on Treasure Island.

[aargon]

Say what now? Maybe it's the head injury my horse gave me earlier today, but wha? How are you restricted if you're a mod? If anything, you have more power to do stuff.

I have no idea what this has to do with Japanese hotels, but yeah...

fuck the hotels. This is a far more interesting discussion.

yes, you have greater power as a mod. But with great power comes great responsibilty.

you cant possibly think that you can behave and act as free as a bird as a mod as you would a regular member do you? like i said, you should be restricted in what you say and do simply because of this power which you can abuse.

Take the police for example, if they used the law to enforce or influence their opinions, everyone would want to be a copper. But they cant because they are restricted in what they say and do. They just uphold the rules of society and keep everyone in check.

i guess your blonde, you wouldnt understand :cop:

[stsparky]

... i guess your blonde, you wouldnt understand :cop:
What are you? An 8 year old has better manners.

[Shamu]

I dunno, I see the mods doing and saying pretty much what they like (things are always more fun when Citizen is around).

As for the blonde comment...even if you're joking...is that really appropriate? Because I'm blonde I don't understand anything? Well, it's the internets, it must be true. LOL. I'm just really stupid and don't know what I'm talking about because I have a blonde hair :P
*runs away before PLF starts on his very long list of blonde jokes*

[aargon]

What are you? An 8 year old has better manners.

calling me an 8 year old justifies my point. :clap:

i thought it was quite funny actually. Excuse my dry sense of humour. I love blondes.

[PopCulturePooka]

aargon seems naught but a cheap troll. Even Shadowdeth trolled better.


And re: mods. They can say and do what they like. Dont like? Leave the board.

[aargon]

aargon seems naught but a cheap troll. Even Shadowdeth trolled better.


And re: mods. They can say and do what they like. Dont like? Leave the board.

oh, you can do better then that cant you poop?

[PopCulturePooka]

oh, you can do better then that cant you poop?
Much better. When someone worthwhile comes along I'll actually bother doing better. Sorry.

[Stephy]

fuck the hotels. This is a far more interesting discussion.

Then make a thread about it. Don't troll or derail a thread.

Snip

i guess your blonde, you wouldnt understand :cop:
Insulting someone's intelligence while using the wrong form of "you're" at the same time doesn't help add any credibility to your (<- Proper way to use it) already baseless comment. =\

This thread is pointless now since the OP has received his/her info. I think it should be closed now (unless someone has GOOD and non-trolling comments to contribute). :)

~Mini mod Stephy ;p

[Pierrot le Fou]

http://www.eg.leopalace21.com/

A 2 week stay will run you from 40,000 yen to 170,000 yen, depending on the quality and location of the apartment.

In Shibuya, there are 5 available apartments. They are all 1K (1 room apartments with a kitchen) which will run you 91,000+ for 2 weeks (that's roughly $800 US, give or take).

Many better options in Shinjuku, ranging from 80,000 yen, to 98,000 yen for a 1DK (2 rooms, a dining/kitchen, and a bedroom).

Depends on what you're looking for I s'pose.

ETA: I hate you StSparky...

[gentlemanandscholar]

Much better. When someone worthwhile comes along I'll actually bother doing better. Sorry.

Aargon seems to have hangups with his own looks, or something along those lines. In multiple posts he flames people for their looks. Ah well.

Aargon: I have respect for you for most of your witty retorts, but you just take a pathetically easy-out when you rag on someone for their physical appearance.

[Danistar]

Aargon seems to have hangups with his own looks, or something along those lines. In multiple posts he flames people for their looks. Ah well.

Aargon: I have respect for you for most of your witty retorts, but you just take a pathetically easy-out when you rag on someone for their physical appearance.
Witty retorts?! Aargon?!? What the fuck are you smoking when you read this forum?

[ZaichikArky]

God I knew this thread was going to spiral downhill... I never would have guessed it would so quickly.

*joins the "jerry jerry jerry" chanting*

[MeneerDijk]

This forum should be renamed to 'All things troll' As for this thread, it fails. locked