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aargon
01-05-2007, 01:15 PM
Per the Japan Times newspaper today. Truely disturbing.


Friday, Jan. 5, 2007


Man admits dismembering his sister, 20
Kyodo News
Police arrested a 21-year-old cram school student Thursday after he admitted killing and dismembering his 20-year-old sister, a junior college student whose cut-up corpse was found the previous night in his room in their home in Tokyo's Shibuya Ward.

The body of Azumi Muto, the daughter of dentist Mamoru Muto, 62, who has a clinic on the first floor of the family's three-story home, had been cut into more than 10 parts, police said, identifying the suspect as her brother, Yuki.

Her head, arms and legs also bore signs of other assault-related injuries.

The body, packed in four plastic bags, was found by the victim's mother around 9 p.m. Wednesday in the brother's room on the third floor, police said. The body parts had no clothing on them.

"I killed my sister because I got mad at her," the brother was quoted by police sources as saying in interrogation.

The suspect got angry because the victim criticized his poor academic performance and taunted him by saying she had a dream but he didn't, the sources said.

The brother told police that he cut off her head, arms and legs with a saw and a kitchen knife, the sources said.

During questioning, he cried and apologized, they added. The mother, who was out of town visiting relatives until late Tuesday night, last spoke with her daughter Saturday afternoon through the intercom at the front door as she left on a trip with her eldest son, police said.

According to police, the suspect was home Sunday but left in the afternoon to attend a 12-day session scheduled to run through Jan. 11 at his Hayama, Kanagawa Prefecture, cram school, which is geared for aspiring dentists and doctors.

"I am really surprised because (the arrest) was out of the blue. I saw nothing strange in his behavior," said a worker at the cram school, where police found the suspect early Thursday.

The gruesome find is Tokyo's third in two months -- the upper torso of an Asian man was found near JR Shinjuku Station last month, and his lower torso was discovered later in the garden of a vacant house in Shibuya. DNA analysis determined the body parts belong to the same man, but his identity remains unknown and the head is missing.

Muto lived in the house with her father, 57-year-old mother, who is also a dentist, and the two brothers, police said.

The mother and the 23-year-old other brother went on a trip Saturday afternoon and were later joined by Mamoru Muto, who left Sunday night to join them, police said. The three returned home Tuesday night.

The Japan Times
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4letterwords
01-05-2007, 01:49 PM
I dunno why but theres something about Japanese crimes like this that just kindof sets them apart... I dunno if its just me but theres something... eerie about the way the murderer acts in Japan. I dunno.

blank slate
01-05-2007, 01:54 PM
We have plenty of weird murders here in the states too. I remember my mom telling me that a few years ago there was a guy who killed a ton of people, and then fed the people to his co-workers...

andrewt
01-05-2007, 03:34 PM
We have plenty of weird murders here in the states too. I remember my mom telling me that a few years ago there was a guy who killed a ton of people, and then fed the people to his co-workers...

Cartman: "Scott Tenorman Must Die"

gentlemanandscholar
01-05-2007, 05:39 PM
I dunno why but theres something about Japanese crimes like this that just kindof sets them apart... I dunno if its just me but theres something... eerie about the way the murderer acts in Japan. I dunno.

Probably because many of the killers are Batemans... they seem so normal, yet they do such horrific things. I think because many of the ones (I have read about) were killings that were based upon pressure from school or a career.

They don't seem to have as many good ol' hooker maulings and crimes by the certifiably insane like we do in good ol Amarrrrika and Kanada.

I suppose that's just something that mirrors the difference in cultures.


fake edit: Am I sick for thinking about Dexter?

pangloss
01-05-2007, 09:28 PM
fake edit: Am I sick for thinking about Dexter?

It depends.
Were you touching yourself?

aargon
01-05-2007, 09:30 PM
This country has such polar extremes. From me thinking its one of the safest, cleanest, most polite and efficient countries in the world, to being one of the most disturbing, scary ass places to live.

I dont think i have ever read an article like this before. What makes it eerie is that it was done by a sibling - in their own home of all places. Dismembering your own sister after choking, beating and drowning her, just over some argument, is down right nasty.

Then you get all these teenage suicides due to group bullying at school. What fucks things up even more, are teachers who just let it continue or join in on the bullying. Then theres the whole kindergarden school murders. Lost count of how many of those articles i had to skip in the news last year.

I guess its a polar extreme also in crimes compared to the states. In the states its usually aggregated robbery or assault or high school shotouts. At least you dont get too much of here, or none that i have seen so far in the news.
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crabity
01-05-2007, 10:25 PM
I think this is a case where the family looks perfect on the outside, but is actually falling apart on the inside.

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Both parents were dentists, and they expected their three kids to follow their paths. The oldest one got into a good school, and the mom was bragging all about it, so that put pressure on the two younger ones (the killer and the victim) to succeed. However, the younger brother became a ronin and the younger sister went to a 2-yr college.

Second, there were bullying going on among the siblings. The older brother would bully the younger brother, who in turn would bully the sister. Apparently the younger brother even put a hole in her bedroom door once, but her parents just didn't do anything about it.

Then, the girl herself... she was working as a kyabakura girl trying to earn enough money to move out of the house. Kyabakura girl is like a host at a night club, isn't it?

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Above was the rough English translation of something the girl's close friend said on 2ch, so I have no idea how much to believe...but if it's true, then it's very sad.

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I do know this is true for sure:
Before he left for his 12-day camp/trip, he told his family that he was keeping a dead shark in the house for a friend, so not to open the garbage bags even when it starts to smell.

...that's sick.

Pierrot le Fou
01-05-2007, 11:47 PM
Kyabakura is a lounge in which you pay to drink with young 'good looking' girls, and buy them drinks. It's basically getting ripped off to drink with a woman who likely hates you but can't show it.

I've never been, but it's the least appealing of the 'water business' in Japan to me.

羽之助
01-06-2007, 12:44 AM
Ah, mizu-shoubai ... I got taken by my coworkers (Board of Ed.!) to one (kyabakura) once, and got a really friendly, talkative girl the first time, and after 30 minutes, changed to someone who could barely keep her loathing suppressed.

It's weird. I know a woman who is the same age as me and her parents are angry that she started working in a normal bar because it's part of the "water business".

Pierrot le Fou
01-06-2007, 12:50 AM
There are very few 'normal bars' in Japan. Hence the reluctance most likely. 'Bars' are typically places where the alcohol is secondary to the service (snacks, show pubs, etc.) and that's silly.

羽之助
01-06-2007, 01:04 AM
It's a bar first and foremost, but the owner makes good spaghetti and pizza.

gentlemanandscholar
01-06-2007, 02:58 AM
It's a bar first and foremost, but the owner makes good spaghetti and pizza.

Some of the best spaghetti I ever had, in fact.

SlickWilly440
01-06-2007, 08:31 AM
I remember my mom telling me that a few years ago there was a guy who killed a ton of people, and then fed the people to his co-workers...

Didn't Hannibal Lectur also do that?

Azrael
01-06-2007, 10:44 AM
I dunno why but theres something about Japanese crimes like this that just kindof sets them apart... I dunno if its just me but theres something... eerie about the way the murderer acts in Japan. I dunno.
It's not just you. I mean, there are murders in America too but here in Japan, it's just like people have ticking time bombs in them ready to go off at the slightest notion.

Read the news archives to see stories that don't get that much press. Off the top of my head, I remember one case where a guy killed his father over an argument about the bathroom door. Beat his head in with a baseball bat. And another where a guy killed his mother for getting on his case about not having a job. Jeezus Cripes.

And people STILL wonder why I'm not gonna raise any kids here.

aargon
01-06-2007, 11:03 AM
couple of months back there was another gruesome story in the news with lots of tv coverage. Mother had chopped up her kids and were keeping them in suitcases in her attic. Think the neighbour complained of a foul smell.

Whats worst, was not only did they find a chopped up corpse, there were also bones which i think turned out to be her son or husband (cant remember) that went missing about 10 yrs ago.

Its was totally fucked up. Family values and morals are lost in this society. People conform to societies expectations when in public, but behind closed doors, all hell breaks lose. This goes for porn and the sadistic fetishes japanese men have in this country.
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mpz
01-06-2007, 04:29 PM
It's not just you. I mean, there are murders in America too but here in Japan, it's just like people have ticking time bombs in them ready to go off at the slightest notion.
The murders certainly sound fucked up but I'd still take my chances in Japan. The probability of something bad happening to you or people you care about is minuscule compared to USA (unless you plan on living in a gated community or something like that). Just look at the statistics.

crabity
01-06-2007, 05:05 PM
in addition to mpz

news become news because they are bizarre and draws readers. reporters are purposely looking for the weirdest news. they're looking for readers, and ultimately, profit.

there's been a lot of media coverage on suicides in Japan...
at my own school, there was someone who committed suicide because of stress, too. there was also an attempt at a suicide, in the school BATHROOM! just last month. but these stuff never gets any media coverage in US.... wonder why, huh?

Kezurimasu
01-06-2007, 06:11 PM
"I killed my sister because I got mad at her,"
WTF

Eddie Echoplex
01-06-2007, 09:40 PM
Probably because many of the killers are Batemans... they seem so normal, yet they do such horrific things. I think because many of the ones (I have read about) were killings that were based upon pressure from school or a career.

Hannibal Lecter would be so proud.

Danistar
01-07-2007, 11:43 AM
Yeah, because weird murders don't happen anywhere else in the world except in Japan.

pangloss
01-07-2007, 03:24 PM
"I killed my sister because I got mad at her,"
WTF

...according to Japan today.com, she accused him of not having any ambition.

How ironic.

Azrael
01-11-2007, 09:12 AM
I'm still sorta following this story on TV. Now it seems that, at first, the brother whacked her on the head using a kendo bouken (not to be confused with a shinai - the bouken WILL do damage, bad), then talked with her for a bit regarding family problems. She said she was cold, so he gave her a towel, but then when she said "You have no dreams" he used the towel to strangle her.

It's also seems that the girl was dating a man much older than her, and had already produced an R-rated DVD.

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For those who just can't get enough of these cut-em-up murders...

The pieces of a man they found in Tokyo, that we all thought had yakuza written all over it...turns out it was the guy's WIFE. She was unhappy with their married life so she hit him in the head with a wine bottle after he passed out drunk, and because he was too heavy to carry, chopped him up in pieces and distributed him all over Tokyo. Got in a taxi carrying a suitcase with the torso, and rode the train with his head in a travel bag.

...See, THIS is why we say Japanese murders have that extra creepy factor to them.

EIJI
01-11-2007, 10:15 AM
She carried her husband's head on the train I take EVERYDAY and buried it the park near my house. She hasn't driver's licence and just got on the train because Japanese trains are always on time, then sometimes convenient for murders.

japanat
01-11-2007, 11:42 AM
Now there are rumors on some of the 'wide shows' that the kid who killed his sister had actually been in an incestuous relationship with her.

It gets sicker and sicker...

crabity
01-11-2007, 02:22 PM
...according to Japan today.com, she accused him of not having any ambition.

How ironic.

how is it ironic?
she accused him of not having any ambition, so he got mad at her...

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the wife killing husband murder reminded me of a murder where the husband was killed by everyone living with him (the grandma, the sister-in-laws, the brother-in-laws, etc.) except for the wife. And when the police investigated, they all tried to frame the wife. They then stuffed the body in the truck on the wife's car, and when the police pulled her over for some small things, he told her to open the trunk...and she found the body. One of the phrases the grandma said when the police were interviewing suspects that freaked me out was "we were remodeling the house" which, she was implying that they were remodeling the houseHOLD. it happened in america.

pangloss
01-11-2007, 05:07 PM
the irony being he had plans to kill her.

Vaste
01-15-2007, 09:59 PM
So, anyone know this Mamoru Muto? "Oh, don't mind all that, that was on the third floor...

Do they always disclose name, age and occupation of relatives to victims/suspects? Am I the only one who finds this cruel, as if the family hadn't already had enough?

CrazyAce86
01-16-2007, 04:35 AM
Creepy shit happens in the US, too. About a week ago, some dude in DC was found to have kept his dead mother's body in her bed for over a year. Talk about Norman Bates. Ugh. And they can't charge the dude with improper disposal of a body because she died in bed and he didn't move her. Betcha they'll change that loophole as fast as they can. He's going to get away with this hopscot-free. Just... Ugh.

And it gets me every time with the neighbors saying, "He was so normal..."

I'm starting to think "normal" should be an indicator for mad men. Seriously. 60% or something of American families are considered "dysfunctional," so normal folks truly are a minority.

I'm sure Japan's the same way, not that anyone would ever admit to it.

Stuff like this... Man, I'm starting to think that Japan's a more dangerous place than the Bronx after dark. I'll admit, it makes me nervous about ever visting.