Saddam hanging video!

[l337moomoo]

You got it from me first folks;

http://www.anwarweb.net/saddamdown.wmv

Warning: Shows someone being hung, if you can't take it, don't watch it!!!

[Riinuka]

Well, it doesn't seem like he suffered. Looks like it broke his neck right away.

[RandomPasserby]

That link was reported dead on anotehr forum and anyway, snuff is for perverts and sickos.

[Mittens]

Snuff? You think this is snuff? Donno bout you, but I wasnt aroused at all. 0o
Anyway, in this vid you dont see anything scary or disturbing so eh.
Then again, I've seen people cry over stupid stuff (ewww, hes walking over glass / coals) or (omg someone i dont know died!)

[Angelyne]

Fox News has the video up on their website, too. I mention Fox News because I find it hilarious that they were absolutely livid at the sight of Janet Jackson's nipple, but they are perfectly willing to show, even hyping up, a video of a man being killed.

Nipple = bad
Public execution = good

This rationale completely blows my mind.


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[Mastiker]

You got it from me first folks;

http://www.anwarweb.net/saddamdown.wmv

Warning: Shows someone being hung, if you can't take it, don't watch it!!!

Ooo that's just creepy. I don't care who he is, that's not something people should see D:

[Mittens]

Oh yeah, and knowing how stuff works here. In b4 lock'd

[yogi]

Man bandwidth exceeded.

Whats wrong with seeing deaths.. Its natural. :watson:

[Angelyne]

Fox News link to the video (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,240257,00.html)

Just in case the original link doesn't fix its bandwith problems.

[Wakka]

............

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

Darn Iraqi videotapers.

Them catching something on film this important is like those typical teenage girls who use their cellphone cameras videotaping themselves being silly and posting it up on Youtube.

[Mechs]

Well that video didn't show much.

[Masa the Masta]

It could have been him slipped through a trap door, then a dead Saddam decoy could've been brought out.

Simple sleight of hand. :watson:

[Kfisher]

It could have been him slipped through a trap door, then a dead Saddam decoy could've been brought out.

Simple sleight of hand. :watson:

That is some conspiracy theory you have there.... -.-

I've seen the video in google, the quality was kinda poor, and I couldn't see much of what was going on. I did catch the sight of the trapdoor being released, though.

[Vic_Rattlehead]

When hanging was legal in England, they used to put an iron bar beneath your neck to instantly snap you neck once you drop. Humane eh? :P

[chad mullet]

When hanging was legal in England, they used to put an iron bar beneath your neck to instantly snap you neck once you drop. Humane eh? :P

Where did you hear this fact ?

First I've heard of this and I've read Pierrepoint's book in which he goes in to some detail about how he did the business.

[Albert Pierrepoint was the last of a family of British executioners- he offed over 400 guilty and innocent people during his career of evil]

[The_Penguin]

Fox News has the video up on their website, too. I mention Fox News because I find it hilarious that they were absolutely livid at the sight of Janet Jackson's nipple, but they are perfectly willing to show, even hyping up, a video of a man being killed.

Nipple = bad
Public execution = good

This rationale completely blows my mind.


EDITED: typos ><
Go to Germany and the exact opposite is true. Boobies, vagina and penis, acceptable. Blood, gore and violence, OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The_Penguin]

I'm sure that many here will disagree with me, but personally I'm glad that this murderer is pushing up daisies now. Out of all the dictators of the past century (Mussolini, Stalin (a number of my relatives suffered at the hands of this bastard), Hitler (my grandparents are lucky to survive the Blitzkriegs that rolled through eastern europe), Ceauscu (sp?), etc.) Saddam is the only one that was caught, tried in a trial by the people, convicted and punished for his crimes.

[Beowulf]

Absolutely nothing was solved by this.

[ZylitoL]

Damn...

So it goes.

[RandomPasserby]

I'm sure that many here will disagree with me, but personally I'm glad that this murderer is pushing up daisies now. Out of all the dictators of the past century (Mussolini, Stalin (a number of my relatives suffered at the hands of this bastard), Hitler (my grandparents are lucky to survive the Blitzkriegs that rolled through eastern europe), Ceauscu (sp?), etc.) Saddam is the only one that was caught, tried in a trial by the people, convicted and punished for his crimes.
Heh, Saddam got the same as Mussolini, getting executed by his opponents/victims (Mussolini didn't get a proper trial though). Did you know that one of the reasons they hanged Saddam right after the first trial was because if all trials had been finished, he would have been too old to be hanged (men who are 70 or older can't be exucuted according to Iraq law, I read that from a local paper)? Then add in the random taunting during execution and it sound more like a fixed trial used by shias to get revenge on Saddam than anything else. And he didn't get tried in a trial by the people as there are at least 3 major groups of people in Iraq, shias (the muslim group that was Saddam's enemies), sunnis (Saddam's group and supporters) and kurdis (who don't want to be ruled by either shias or sunnis).

[Karthak]

Heh, Saddam got the same as Mussolini, getting executed by his opponents/victims (Mussolini didn't get a proper trial though). Did you know that one of the reasons they hanged Saddam right after the first trial was because if all trials had been finished, he would have been too old to be hanged (men who are 70 or older can't be exucuted according to Iraq law, I read that from a local paper)? Then add in the random taunting during execution and it sound more like a fixed trial used by shias to get revenge on Saddam than anything else. And he didn't get tried in a trial by the people as there are at least 3 major groups of people in Iraq, shias (the muslim group that was Saddam's enemies), sunnis (Saddam's group and supporters) and kurdis (who don't want to be ruled by either shias or sunnis).
In other words, this just made the situation in Iraq worse...

[Jay]

Absolutely nothing was solved by this.

Amen .

[Kass]

Tacky and tasteless. Congrats to all who posted it for reaching a new low.

It is a tragedy that humanit can still produce genocidal maniacs like Saddam. His execution was a necessary, but grave act and shouldn't be made light of. It should serve as a reminder that there is still evil in this world.

[SlickWilly440]

I just saw on Fox News the security guard who taped the hanging with his cellphone has been arrested. Yes it's probably the his video that we have all seen....LOL. They even show part of the cellphone recording clip, which is definitely what I watched.

[Hatsumomo]

Fox News has the video up on their website, too. I mention Fox News because I find it hilarious that they were absolutely livid at the sight of Janet Jackson's nipple, but they are perfectly willing to show, even hyping up, a video of a man being killed.

Nipple = bad
Public execution = good

This rationale completely blows my mind.


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I guess it's the same reason why parents had no qualms with buying their kid Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas with full knowledge with how violent the game is, but when that Hot Coffee patch became public knowledge, they all flipped their shit. Nobody cares about violence until some stupid ass kid does something, then TV/movies/video games/etc. are to blame.

I'm not a parent, nor will I ever become one (do not want), so I would like a parent to explain the "sex = bad; violence = who cares?" rationale to me. I would think that it's easier to explain to little Johnny or Susie honestly when they ask "Where do babies come from?" than it would be if they ask, "Why did that man just cut open that lady's throat?" or "Why is that coffin so small? And why is there a child lying in it?"*



*Was just reminded of Elisa Izequierdo's (sp?) murder about 11-12 years ago. Pictures of her open coffin with her lying inside was on the covers of the newspapers and Time magazine and such. Same with Nixzmary Brown's death about a year or so ago.

[Roxie]

I guess it's the same reason why parents had no qualms with buying their kid Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas with full knowledge with how violent the game is, but when that Hot Coffee patch became public knowledge, they all flipped their shit.
:boggled: What?!

GTA has been all over the news! Parents groups have been up in arms about that game since its inception. And with every release they come back again, preaching its evils. I don't know how you missed that...but what the hell is Hot Coffee patch?

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

Hot Coffee Patch is so '05.

[Jetsetlemming]

Hot coffee was a minigame put into the latest GTA game that let the player have sex with his girlfriends. It was removed from the final game, Rockstar games chickened out, but it was still on the disc; just inaccessable. Somebody released a mod for the PC version unlocking the minigame, allowing people to play it. Rockstar then went back, got rid of the game entirely from future printings, as well as the capability to mod GTA: SA, and claimed that the minigame was entirely from the fanmade mod, and not at all from them. The ESRB re-rated all editions of the game AO (adults only) because of this, even though it was only available on the PC edition of the game, and only on the early printings.
And people have been protesting GTA since day one. It's a game where you play as a criminal and the bad guys are cops, after all.
The Hot Coffee thing got the game even more attention and hype, though. It got more protests and public reaction from simulated sex then it did from killing virtual cops. Plenty of parents are far more willing to give their kids violent stuff than sexual stuff. For example, my mom was fine with me playing Metal Gear Solid, until one day she happened to be walking by my room during the one scene where Pyscho Mantis takes control of Meril and makes her say "make love to me, Snake" then attack you. She heard that, came in, and confiscated the game on the spot. :gloomy:

As for the hanging video....
Who the fuck wants to watch something like that? Seriously? Why would you want to see a man die?

[Mechs]

As for the hanging video....
Who the fuck wants to watch something like that? Seriously? Why would you want to see a man die?

Me :). Do I have to have a reason?

[TygressVirgo]

Me :). Do I have to have a reason?

Mechs, the way you posts honestly scares me.

[Mechs]

:rofl:

What's there to be scared about :innocent:?

[PopCulturePooka]

:rofl:

What's there to be scared about :innocent:?
You are a borderline psychopath with a hard on for violence, revels in wathcing videos of people die and who is joining an organisation that will give you access to weapons?

:P

[Mechs]

You are a borderline psychopath with a hard on for violence, revels in wathcing videos of people die and who is joining an organisation that will give you access to weapons?

:P

Lots of weapons :bwitch:. M-4s, M-16s, M-136s, M2 .50s, MK-19 automatic grenade launchers. ACOGs, Aimpoints, Nightvision, M-9s (I hope), M-249s, M-240s, M-67 Fragmentation grenades......*Twitch* Oh yeah baby http://www.pointofexistence.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/drool.gif.

But I'm not a psychopath nor am I that violent......:innocent:

[Hatsumomo]

The Hot Coffee thing got the game even more attention and hype, though. It got more protests and public reaction from simulated sex then it did from killing virtual cops. Plenty of parents are far more willing to give their kids violent stuff than sexual stuff.

That's my point. "Oh, you can brutally murder cops and any average Joe on the street, steal cars, get drugs, blow up stuff, and all that. This'll be a good game for my kid. Wait, this guy can have sex with his girlfriends??? EVERYTHING IS UNHOLY!!!"

My parents almost never censored what I watched or read. They let me watch gory horror movies, play violent video games, read whatever, and they had no qualms about it. Hell, for Family Movie Night, they were the ones who rented Scream when I was 11.

But the one movie they did not let me watch at all was Wild Things when I was 12 because of all the sexual content. Too bad they had put cable in my room, so I had HBO when it came on there. I taped it, haha. Back in middle school and early high school, I watched a lot of Showtime and Cinemax porn on there, too.

[Nights_into_dreams]

Saw the movie, it kinda sucked...

What kind of jackass cuts away at the damn money shot?! :bang:

[Hatsumomo]

What, Wild Things?

I guess they had to cut away from the twat shot in order to keep an R rating and not go into NC-17 territory.

[Jetsetlemming]

Me :). Do I have to have a reason?
Can't you at least pretend you want to serve your country and be honorable, and don't like death, rather than doing it just because you like big guns and want to shoot at people? :meh:
I get it, Hussein was a bad guy. He got what he deserved. There's a big difference in thinking he got justice, and wanting too watch him get it online in a video. There's no rational reason anybody could give to want to watch anybody die. Maybe if he did something personally to you, but not just because you want to watch something like this. It's disgusting. It's death. It's a man being hanged for his crimes. That's not something you should want to watch unless his crimes were against you personally. Maybe if your family members were in the mass graves. Maybe if you were sent to a rape room. Not just because he's an enemy of your country.

[Kass]

Actually, Fox and all the networks has been airing/streaming the official video released to the press by the Iraqi government. That tape stops when the noose is placed around Saddam's neck. The video recorded on the cell phone shows the taunts and him actually being hanged. Fox and other news networks also cut off the cell phone video at the same place.

You're condemning Fox for doing something it didn't do any differently from NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, the BBC or MSNBC.

[Angelyne]

You're condemning Fox for doing something it didn't do any differently from NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, the BBC or MSNBC.


I'm condemning Fox in particular because they go batshit insane over anything sexual (e.g. Janet Jackson's nipple) but have no qualms about showing a public execution. The other networks* are guilty to varying degrees of the same thing, but Fox has been extremely vocal for years about moral degradation in our society, yet hyped up Saddam's execution with sensationalism that would put the National Enquirer to shame, as this is what was on their front page for a day. (http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/saddam_hanged_600.jpg) I don't recall seeing the BBC or any other network treating Saddam's execution in the same over-the-top manner.

Hence why I specifically attacked Fox. The other networks aren't nearly as hypocritical or sensational as they are.





* Not counting the BBC, since I've never seen them go apeshit over the sight of a nipple.

[Jetsetlemming]

Since when does Fox news as a whole send a unified message? There are a bunch of different anchors with different opinions and behaviors. Bill O'Reilly isn't gonna say the same stuff as Alan Colmes isn't gonna say the same stuff as Shepard Smith isn't gonna say the same stuff as Brit Hume isn't gonna say the same stuff as Greta Van Omfgatroll!.

[Angelyne]

I would agree with that, except that I have yet to see any Fox News personality that expresses a liberal, non-conservative opinion when given the opportunity. They might not all hold the exact same word-for-word opinion, but it is pretty clear which political stance dominates most of their programming.

And no matter which way they lean, it doesn't excuse their unprofessional sensationalism.

[Jetsetlemming]

Alan Colmes does. He's the token liberal. :P
Bill O'Rielly has been... less right? lately. He frequently says the war is going badly and was handled poorly, though he dismisses any critizism of the reasons for starting the war as a waste of time (as they're usually brought up in another discussion, like one about Saddam's execution and the effects it'll have on the state of Iraq). He also heavily critized Bush on the border stuff a few months ago. *shrug*

[Roxie]

Alan Colmes does. He's the token liberal. :P
The few times I've watched that show, Colmes is either weak in his opinions or completely non-existant. He is not the token liberal at all. He is highly dissapointing. A token liberal would be someone like Bill Mahr or Jon Stewart.

[japanat]

While I agree that Saddam was a criminal who deserved hanging; and feel that death is natural, not a subject to be avoided at all costs; I do have to wonder about this. If your relatives (or yourself) had suffered at his hands, I could understand wanting to see with your own eyes that the bastard was dead. But other people dialing up this video and watching is just ghoulish.

[Kass]

I'm condemning Fox in particular because they go batshit insane over anything sexual (e.g. Janet Jackson's nipple) but have no qualms about showing a public execution. The other networks* are guilty to varying degrees of the same thing, but Fox has been extremely vocal for years about moral degradation in our society, yet hyped up Saddam's execution with sensationalism that would put the National Enquirer to shame, as this is what was on their front page for a day. (http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/saddam_hanged_600.jpg) I don't recall seeing the BBC or any other network treating Saddam's execution in the same over-the-top manner.

Hence why I specifically attacked Fox. The other networks aren't nearly as hypocritical or sensational as they are.





* Not counting the BBC, since I've never seen them go apeshit over the sight of a nipple.

Bull. Other networks are just as hypocritical. Their anchors deliver addresses at political conventions and claim to be unbiased. They claim to report all sides of the issue, yet you can go through an entire broadcast without hearing a dissenting opinion. They are just on the opposite side of the spectrum and most of them condemned the Janet Jackson nipple thing as well.

Other networks aired the same video AND had just as obnoxious graphics. MSNBC ran a huge photo of Saddam standing there with a noose around his neck on the top of their site for two days. I'd assert that someone standing in the gallows is more tasteless than a publicity photo with "HANGED!" next to it.

Besides, having one opinion on sex and a different on death isn't hypocritical. They are two different issues. I didn't like Janet baring her chest during the superbowl because it was billed as entertainment suitable for young children at the time. If you say a show is suitable for young children, it had better be so. She and the network were in the wrong and deserved their fines. Had they billed it as not suitable for young children, I wouldn't have cared. I thought she was wrong AND I think people watching the complete video of Saddam's execution to be ghoulish, insensitve, tasteless and disrespectful to his family. Does that make me a hypocrite too?

[Jetsetlemming]

How is seeing Janet Jackson's nipple damaging to children?

[悲しいパンダ]

That video just left more questions for me to ask. What I want to know is...was that really Saddam? Wasn't their a report that he had lots of look-alikes. Also he was not hung in the States, how can we be so sure as to who that person was who was hung? Also, if that was Saddam, after his footing was removed, wouldn't it have to take some time to kill him. I mean he died pretty fast. He'd be gasping for air for at least a couple of seconds.

[RandomPasserby]

That video just left more questions for me to ask. What I want to know is...was that really Saddam? Wasn't their a report that he had lots of look-alikes. Also he was not hung in the States, how can we be so sure as to who that person was who was hung? Also, if that was Saddam, after his footing was removed, wouldn't it have to take some time to kill him. I mean he died pretty fast. He'd be gasping for air for at least a couple of seconds.
Properly done hanging breaks your neck instantly or so I have heard.

Also, fake Saddam might protest a bit when he sees the rope, eh?

But seriously, with his boys' corpses, dna testing is easy and shiites did want to hang him.

[Jetsetlemming]

Yeah, there's no reason anyone would want to protect Saddam. Unless they caught a lookalike in the very first place who's been masquerading as Saddam this whole time... :watson:
:P

[Beowulf]

Yeah, there's no reason anyone would want to protect Saddam.
They're called the Sunni's, look them up.

[RandomPasserby]

They're called the Sunni's, look them up.
Yeah, but USA gave Saddam to the Shiites :P

[Beowulf]

Yeah, but USA gave Saddam to the Shiites :P
What does that have to do with anything? They didn't give him to anybody. They did give a pointless circus of a trial that ended after several more innocent lawyers lost their lives. They should have put a bullet through his head the day they drug the poor bastard out of that hole.

[aargon]

This is why people shouldnt be showing such images on tv, internet or anywhere of someone getting hanged. Fucking irresponsible idiots and that includes the person who started this thread.

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AdvertisementHOUSTON: Graphic images of Saddam Hussein's execution this week have had tragic repercussions for the families of three children who hanged themselves after watching the footage.

In Webster, a suburb of Houston, Texas, Sergio Pelico, 10, accidentally hanged himself on New Year's Eve after watching television reports of Saddam's execution, police said.

In western Pakistan, a nine-year-old boy near the town of Multan died trying to copy scenes from the execution. Mubashar Ali, helped by his 10-year-old sister, tied a rope to a ceiling fan and his neck. Their father said the children had been watching the Saddam footage on television.

A 15-year-old Indian girl from Kharda, in West Bengal, hanged herself in response to the Saddam execution, saying she wanted to feel his pain.

The body of the US boy was found hanging from his bunk bed. He had asked about the execution, an uncle said.

"He asked, 'Is this how they killed people?"' Adolfo Chavez said. "We said, 'No, but they did it to this man because he's bad."'

Mr Chavez said his nephew said nothing more about the hanging. The next night, as adults prepared dinner and his cousins played, Sergio went upstairs to his bedroom. Another child found the body.

"It was nothing more than a tragic accident," said Captain Thomas Claunch, of the Webster police. "I think he was trying to mimic the behaviour, and it got out of hand."

Manmohan Karmakar, the father of the dead girl, Moon Moon, said she had become extremely depressed after watching the Saddam's execution on television.

"She kept watching the scene over and again and didn't take food on Saturday and Sunday to protest against the hanging," he said. "She said they had hanged a patriot. We didn't take her seriously when she told us that she wanted to feel the pain Saddam did during the execution."

Police Superintendent Pravin Kumar said the girl hanged herself from a ceiling fan and was found dead early on Wednesday.

Investigators have identified and arrested two Justice Ministry guards who illicitly filmed Saddam's execution, as the Iraqi Government sought to dampen growing outrage from Sunni Arabs over the unruly hanging.

In Washington, the President, George Bush, said Saddam's execution should have been carried out in a "more dignified way".

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[Jetsetlemming]

Beowulf, by anyone, I meant anyone who COULD protect saddam. He was in the hands of the Shiites, who hated him. Not the Sunni's.

[jihei18]

Footage of the hanging should have never been released. This is going to rile up the wrong people. The fact that the execution took place right before Eid was also a bad idea.
Also, I have no plans to watch this footage.

[Mastiker]

Also, I have no plans to watch this footage.

The footage is horrible, and not just because of the hanging. Whoever took the video was like some excited teenage girl using a cell phone camera to videotape her and her friends at the mall. It's incredibly shaky, most of the goings on are indistingushiable(sp?) and you don't actually see anything more graphic than Saddam's dead body. It's not even his body, it's more just his face.

But on the topic of the children hanging themselves; parents take better charge of your kids. If there's content you don't want them watching, turn off the TV and if they see it anyways, explain to them what happened. Don't assume your child is automatically mature enough to understand what happened. I know it's a horrible idea to show the hanging on TV, but it's not like the kids were being forced to watch it.

[Kass]

This is why people shouldnt be showing such images on tv, internet or anywhere of someone getting hanged. Fucking irresponsible idiots and that includes the person who started this thread.


Sounds a lot like some idiot parents should have been monitoring their children's viewing habits and paying attention more than they did.

A girl says she wants to feel the pain Saddam did when he was hanged and they don't think anything is wrong? Were they stoned or just stupid? Here's a hint: If your child EVER hints that they want to feel that kind of pain, harm themselves or kill themselves, take them to the hospital NOW. They are a danger to themselves and need professional monitoring.

What parent in their right mind lets a young child watch that, let alone with out a serious conversation about the gravity of the event and how dangerous the activity is?

Deaths from auto-asphyxiation amongst young people are actually surprisingly high in the US. That isn't to say that it is higher than the most common causes of death, but there are enough deaths each year from kids trying to hang/strangle themselves without dying for the high that it has become a recognized problem and is dealt with much like drug abuse, cutting and other self-destructive tendencies. They want to cut off their air supply long enough to experience the euphoria your brain feels from lack of oxygen then pass out and start breathing again. Unfortunately, they screw up and kill themselves.

[Mastiker]

Sounds a lot like some idiot parents should have been monitoring their children's viewing habits and paying attention more than they did.

A girl says she wants to feel the pain Saddam did when he was hanged and they don't think anything is wrong? Were they stoned or just stupid? Here's a hint: If your child EVER hints that they want to feel that kind of pain, harm themselves or kill themselves, take them to the hospital NOW. They are a danger to themselves and need professional monitoring.

What parent in their right mind lets a young child watch that, let alone with out a serious conversation about the gravity of the event and how dangerous the activity is?

Deaths from auto-asphyxiation amongst young people are actually surprisingly high in the US. That isn't to say that it is higher than the most common causes of death, but there are enough deaths each year from kids trying to hang/strangle themselves without dying for the high that it has become a recognized problem and is dealt with much like drug abuse, cutting and other self-destructive tendencies. They want to cut off their air supply long enough to experience the euphoria your brain feels from lack of oxygen then pass out and start breathing again. Unfortunately, they screw up and kill themselves.

What I said, but better :gloomy:

[Kal]

Sounds a lot like some idiot parents should have been monitoring their children's viewing habits and paying attention more than they did.

What parent in their right mind lets a young child watch that, let alone with out a serious conversation about the gravity of the event and how dangerous the activity is?


While I do agree that parenting in America is a complete joke, I don't know if you notice, but people tend to grow up differently regardless of what they watch on TV or what they read. I've been watching action movies since the age of 8, to this day I don't feel the urge to pickup a gun and go shoot some people for kicks because I saw it on TV.

Putting the blame on the parents completley and totally ignoring the fact that their children could just be easily influenced is hilarious to me; unless you consider complete isolation from the world and everything "bad" a fair trade, lmao.

[Mastiker]

While I do agree that parenting in America is a complete joke, I don't know if you notice, but people tend to grow up differently regardless of what they watch on TV or what they read. I've been watching action movies since the age of 8, to this day I don't feel the urge to pickup a gun and go shoot some people for kicks because I saw it on TV.

Putting the blame on the parents completley and totally ignoring the fact that their children could just be easily influenced is hilarious to me; unless you consider complete isolation from the world and everything "bad" a fair trade, lmao.

It's not isolation, it's understanding what your children are capable of handling. I would never show my eight year old child a public execution. I would let my 10, or maybe even my 12 year old child view it, but at the same time, only if I knew they could understand the implications of death, and all that good stuff. Being able to censor what your children can and cannot see is a duty that the parent should be responsible for. Simply because your parents let you watch violence and you turned out alright has nothing to do with it. If you're a parent, and you know that content should be censored, censor it! And, if you can't censor it, explain it to them.

[Kass]

While I do agree that parenting in America is a complete joke, I don't know if you notice, but people tend to grow up differently regardless of what they watch on TV or what they read. I've been watching action movies since the age of 8, to this day I don't feel the urge to pickup a gun and go shoot some people for kicks because I saw it on TV.

Putting the blame on the parents completley and totally ignoring the fact that their children could just be easily influenced is hilarious to me; unless you consider complete isolation from the world and everything "bad" a fair trade, lmao.

Children are not "just as easily influenced" by external factors as they are by their parents. Study after study after study has shown that the biggest influences in a child's life are their parents. TV, video games, the media, movies are down the list.

Did I say not let the kids watch it? NO. I asked what parent would let them watch it WITHOUT DISCUSSING it with them. You know, be a parent? Did I blame what all kids do on TV and video games? NO. That is ridiculous. If the parents had actually done what they were supposed to do, regardless of what a child sees elsewhere, they will make better informed decisions and are less likely to make fatal mistakes. Kids will always make mistakes, but odds are, if the parents do their job, the mistakes aren't as big.

I blame the parents because if they had done their jobs, regardless of what their kids saw on television, they'd know right from wrong and would make better decisions. You watched all those things and don't pick up a gun BECAUSE OF YOUR PARENTS. Thanks for proving my point.

My child has been watching movies most consider too violent for children since she was quite young and I never let one come on the TV without discussing what she saw. That's my job and I do it.

I blame parents because IT IS A PARENTS' JOB to raise their children, protect their children and they are responsible for their children. It isn't the media's job, it isn't the PTA's job, it isn't the village's job, it isn't the school's job, it isn't the government's job. It is the PARENTS' job.

That the parents sat and listened to their child say she wanted to harm herself and feel the same pain as someone did when they were hanged and DID NOTHING is their own fault. The blame is entirely theirs. It is THEIR FAULT their child is dead. She ANNOUNCED it. She TOLD them she wanted to harm herself and they had their fingers in their ears. The parents ought to be stoned. Better yet, hanged. Afterall, that is what they condemned their child to through their inaction.

Kids will grow up in spite of their parents, but they won't necessarily grow up well in spite of them.