I am losing my FCUK'ING MIND

[Mittens]

I posted this thread to get some help with this highly HIGHLY irritating problem, and I have no officially tried everything everyone has mentioned.

To put it simply, my computer CPU is hitting temperatures of 106 celcius, and I have NO GODDAMN CLUE WHY. I have reached breaking point now. Im ready to just get on my knees and cry. This problem has become SO crap, that I can hear the compy making working noies as I MOVE THE CURSOR!

So I ask ANYONE here, to give me tips on cooling this piece of crap down. As you can tell from the previous thread, I have already changed fans (and at one point even added a water based coollant system). Basically, I want ideas, fan brands, what to look for when getting a fan etc etc etc.

If this doesnt work, I swear to everyone here, I will tear out my CPU and STAB IT. I will take pics to prove it. I will stab my motherboard too (including fan) and everyone can see.

(For those of you that dont know, I have had problems with this same goddamn PC for the past two years, and no one, OH GOOD GOD no one has come up with a solution. Yes, Akitaka I've tried what you said, nothing worked. Nothing EVER fuckin' works.)

Give me any solution, I will fuckin' guarantee I've tried it.

[Soli]

How do you tell how hot it is? :confused:

And I'd probably just put it in the fridge for a bit. >_>

[Mittens]

How do you tell how hot it is? :confused:

And I'd probably just put it in the fridge for a bit. >_>

BIOS. We have a sensor in there. Im not even GAMING AND ITS AT 104 right NOW

[tweek.3867]

Are you sure that isn't in fereinheight? Because that would be about right in deg. F... but in all honesty the computer probably wouldn't be working at all if it was hitting 104 deg. C

Either way, do you clean your comp out often? Try just pulling off the side and blowing -all- of the dust out. Compressed air cans are perfect for this. You can buy them at staples and you should be able to clean it out no problem with one of those. Also make sure your fans are actually all plugged in and running, and you could put some thermal paste on the CPU itself... see if that helps.

Either way though I honestly doubt it is in celsius. If a computer breaks 60 or 65 deg. celsius, it'll usually just shut down because computers just don't work under such ridiculous temperatures. Ne?

My comp runs at around 45 deg. C on average... it's an athlon so it runs hot. During the summer, my room has very poor insulation so it turns into an oven. If I do anything on my computer it gets upwards of 60 deg. C. If it goes over 62/63 deg, it just freezes and gives me a blue screen of death because it's overheating waaaaay too much. Sometimes it'll go up to 65 before that happens, but never higher.

[akitaka]

Mittens, seriously, this is something that isn't very discussable and just a tech headache on your part; no need to explode a topic with people who generally have NO IDEA on how to fix your issue. If a tech forum can't help you, buy a new machine. Save the important components first, and test them on the new pc (like a cheapo emachines, hell the one I'm using now is a T6532).

Not to be insultive, but your detatchment disorder is irritating.

[Mittens]

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Renkin/temperatureCPU.jpg

Mittens, seriously, this is something that isn't very discussable and just a tech headache on your part; no need to explode a topic with people who generally have NO IDEA on how to fix your issue. If a tech forum can't help you, buy a new machine. Save the important components first, and test them on the new pc (like a cheapo emachines, hell the one I'm using now is a T6532).

Not to be insultive, but your detatchment disorder is irritating.

I would absolutely love to just vent all my frustration at you right now. So I'll make it nice and simple. I dont care if it irritates you.
Anyway, I havent EXPLODED at anyone or anything. Im not spending another £900-£1200 on another computer. In fact, im not spending jack shit on anything else at all apart from components that could help sort this out.

Whatever though.
(And yesh, I realise im probably gonna make enemies here through my anger, but at the moment, I couldnt give a toss)

[NERD]

You have to be more mature and deal with this problem on your own. Screaming at someone won't solve this problem, or making another thread where it is simply to vent off your frustration.

[akitaka]

I forget that live in the UK; so yeah, I could see where you're coming from in terms of cost.

But remember: This isn't a tech forum. I can't think off of the top of my head for someone who knows enough about your issue to resolve it. It's not about the computer, man; it's you're attitude towards it. You know that you did everything right, but it's still not working. So what then?

Do you know anyone with a spare PC that you can test all of your equipment on? If not, how about using any old parts you still have in posession, and interchanging them to isolate the issue? You're not going to spend money, so in exchange you will exchange effort. I spent hours on a video card issue when I first built my stuff, and really, felt about the same as you did; only it involved a tac hammer, some knives, and static electricity. There was no other PC to use the net to find info, so it was all testing, testing, testing.

Still angry? Tough shit. Life sucks, wear a helmet as one of my chef bosses used to say. Only he was there to beat my head in when I was bringing everyone else down.

No worries about making enemies, though. You'll find your solution in time, hopefully before the CPU explodes (you can actually see this happen on youtube, which is pretty cool).

[tweek.3867]

...lol. [Sorry I shouldn't laugh.]

I've never seen a computer run that hot -- and I repair computers so I've seen some pretty bished up comp's.

Only things I can suggest from the limited amount you have said would be check out newegg.com and hunt for fans / a better heatsink for your CPU. I like thermaltake personally D:

[NERD]

That, or thermal paste. A good thermal paste is guaranteed to drop a couple of degrees off your CPU, if applied correctly. I like Zalman for fans myself.

[akitaka]

Arctic Silver ftw. Yeah, and newegg is the shizzle. I plan on buying my components from them when I get enough cash to sell this pc and buy a Asus barebone notebook. I mean, you can't beat $80 or less on 1 gig of memory.

[Mittens]

(you can actually see this happen on youtube, which is pretty cool).

Link link link!!! =D

[Kenshin]

Alright, first things first:
* What type of processor/motherboard is it?
* What kind of thermal paste -if any- are you using?
* What type of heatsink do you have installed on the processor?

I don't know if you answered all or some of this questions in your other thread (I don't know where it is/was) but, as tweek mentioned, a computer running that hot would simply... not run.

My "old" computer (just changed from a Celeron D 2.26GHz to an Athlon 2600+) would run at about 60°C; I would hear the fan almost like it was a 727 engine (okay, maybe not that much...) and it ran fine. Noisy, but otherwise fine. Before I put Artic Silver thermal paste on it, whenever it reached about 80°C, it would freeze and/or reboot.

My guess is that the sensor could be failing since your other temperatures are mostly normal; inside a closed case, the CPU temperature would affect everything else inside. Another thing that would point out sensor failure/malfunction to me is the amount of noise it makes. The CPU fan relies on the sensor to adjust its speed, therefore, if it's failing, it will run at maximum speed everytime.

Try this if you haven't already: leave the computer off for half an hour or so (or whatever time you think is necessary for the CPU to reach room temperature) then boot the system up, and immediately go into your BIOS PC Health Status page (if it's available) and take note of the CPU temperature reported by it. It should be about 5-10° more than the motherboard temperature, and increase gradually as time passes. Do it for 5 minutes, and post back.

...and yeah, computer problems are a b*tch sometimes. (read: everytime...)

Edit: Heh, saw this on Tom's Hardware: Processors can go up in smoke in as little as 2 seconds... (http://www.tomshardware.com/2001/09/17/hot_spot/index.html)
(downloadable video - link at the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0cie_iRwHo - same video in YouTube

[ZaichikArky]

This whiny post isn't nearly as bad as others have been around here. Getting good tech support is hard anyway : (. You could try calling whatever company you bought your computer from. I have a pretty bad overheating problem with my laptop... I just keep the vents exposed and turn it off for a little while if it overheats badly.

I suggest answering all the problems of the tech experts :p. They can direct you to places that show you how to install fans... You could need a new case so the fans can fit. If you are very unfamiliar with installing stuff like fans... good luck ^_^*. Maybe get a RL computer friend to help you out? It's one thing to install a program, but another to install fans/heatsinks/etc.

[akitaka]

@ZaichikArky: I'm betting you have an Acer notebook. Those things would get warm playing solitaire, hohoho...

But yeah, the video of the 'sploding cpu. No firecrackers, imo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qnegha16j7s)

[Angelyne]

I've had horrible overheating problems before...some things I've done to fix it:

When I got a new PC, the idiots who put it together put large, unnecessary pieces of metal over the graphics card and power supply. The metal was obviously keeping heat trapped inside. Once I removed all of the unnecessary metal coverings, the temperature went down quite a bit.

Another time I had overheating problems was when a ton of dust accumulated in the PC. Clear all of that out and make sure nothing is clogging the fan.

If all else fails, open up your PC and place and aim a desk fan at it. Yes, that sounds and looks very ghetto, but it's actually effective. I used this set up for awhile on another PC when the fan broke, and never had any overheating problems.

[Nannou]

i'e got an insane idea
replace your cpu

I know. you can thank me later.

They are cheap as anything these days. Although if your system is 2 years old, you might find it a little harder to source a similar model if they've got out of production.

My core2duo is overclocked to 3.2ghz w/ zalman cooler, and it never gets above 50degrees, even when gaming

[ZaichikArky]

@ZaichikArky: I'm betting you have an Acer notebook. Those things would get warm playing solitaire, hohoho...

But yeah, the video of the 'sploding cpu. No firecrackers, imo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qnegha16j7s)

Funny you say that. My parents actually have a MOTHER of an acer laptop. I mean this thing is HUGE. I just have a plain ole compaq persario laptop. I'm pretty sure all laptops overheat >_<. I literally can't leave my laptop on for too long because of the overheating issues. It gets slow as all hell. I can't do anything about that other than turning it off and letting it cool down. That's okay, it's a 2003 model. I know for sure that my next computer will be a desktop : ).

[tweek.3867]

Newer laptops aren't as bad about it... and the new MacBooks are actually really nice. My friend's Macbook Pro is cool to the touch after running for several hours, and I didn't think the Macbook I was using a few weeks ago was warm at all, and I had it recording / editing for about 5 hours.

I'm a bit biased though -- I love laptops, specifically mactops :p I never cared for Windows [dell, compaq, etc] laptops in general for some reason, even though I love my Windows desktop :p

[Comazon]

My guess is that the sensor could be failing since your other temperatures are mostly normal


I was gonna type that before I noticed it's been said...but yeah, that's my guess too. Are you noticing any actual issues when using it that could be processor-related, besides being as hot as hell?

I never cared for Windows [dell, compaq, etc] laptops in general for some reason, even though I love my Windows desktop :p

I just got a Dell. It works well I guess with no problems, but if I could've built a laptop I would've. I <3 building my own comps!

And macs....meh...:meh:

[MNJetter]

This reminds me of my old computer.....1998 model, with something like a 15 GB hard drive and one of those old CPU/motherboard combos that are attached to one another. Tried to treat it like a normal, new computer, and in 2003, it went out literally in a puff of smoke, melting the whole mess to the wall of the PC tower. Very "modern art"-esque. I still have it, for sentimental purposes. :D

My laptop has problems with heating too. I usually solve it by propping the laptop up with a book on the back end, so it's at an angle and the fan is exposed to the open air. If I leave it on long without a book, guaranteed to shut off from overheating. In the summer, I aim a fan so that the air flows right under the laptop. It works wonders.

Other than that one, which you probably already know about, I have no help to offer.....I know very little about computers....but wanted to put in my two cents in the tiny chance you hadn't tried that yet.

[RandomPasserby]

Just guessing, if you have good enough case fans, enough roo mfor the case so that your comp gets roo mtemperature air (instead of for example, case being right next to a blazing radiator), a decent fan that is guaranteed to keep your vpu cool enough and thermal paste correctly applied, it might be that your cpu sensor is just broken. Have you tried measuring the temprature of the heat sink's base?

[Jetsetlemming]

http://x26.xanga.com/703d16717553393154217/w64933115.jpg
This is my computer at the moment. That's right: Window fan cooled! :D
This is from a problem with my videocard's heat, and not my CPU. I ordered a new video card from Newegg a couple weeks ago, and they sent me the wrong model: A "Stealth" version of the card I wanted, without a fan (just a heatsink over the GPU). It ran far, far too fast in my system, which only has a PSU fan and CPU fan, without any case fans (I can't put any case fans in on my own, either. No place in the case to attach them. Thanks Dell!).
Newegg refuses to return this item and give me what I payed for and ordered without paying a $6 restocking fee and $22 extra for the card itself, because this exact model is sold out. They want me to pay for their mistake.
Yeah, fuck Newegg.
As for your problem, first give us your computer specs. Second, open up the case, angle it towards a light so you can clearly see inside, and take a picture and post it.
I've got a feeling that your tempurature monitor is indeed broken for the CPU. There's no way a CPU could hotter than boiling. The plastic components (such as the motherboard) it's attached to would melt, even if the card itself was still running (Pentium 3's and 4's struggle on and limit themselves under heat without frying, it's remotely possible it would still run, though I really, really doubt it at those temps).

MNJetter, could you please take a picture of that computer and post it? I'd love to see it. XD Melted motherboard! Woo!

[Mittens]

I spose I should update this:

The problem (for the time being) has been fixed. Changed processor and HSF (Heatsink Fan). Knowing my compy, it'll prolly mess up around.. oh i dont know... January or February if im lucky.

[Kenshin]

@Mittens: Glad you got the problem fixed, although it wasn't exactly the cheapest solution for it.

@JSL: Heh, I did that with my old Celeron too; but I just got this for my video card (nVidia Geforce FX5200, without a fan, just a heatsink):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835192007
(yeah I know; ironically enough, from NewEgg.)

Even though shipping cost more than the fan itself (newegg doesn't accept orders from outside the U.S, so I had to use a mail forwarding address and PayPal to get it), I love it. I can barely hear it, even at the "high" setting and it keeps the card cool. Hasn't restarted once, even when playing FSX.