how the world is going to end...

[firaz]

i dun really mean the world , as in the universe, more like earth. i also dun mean all living things... more like the extiction of human life. well ... it starts, it have to end right ? the only matter is, WHEN.

recently there are alot talks about the global warming stuffs, the storms being more intense. i followed the news ok. there have been statistics showing that global warming is not to be blamed for the storms. but the fact is there, we know earth is changed alot by humans ! and the storms... is horrible .... the sudden increase... is shocking ... god knows wat the next storm will do...

there are also the very common talk about a comet hitting earth and all, but i think this, ppl would be able to prevent. given the technology now, the technology that human have used so much resources to acheive ... is it worth it ?

both the above, i dun think its possible to end tat way ... there would be ways to counter ... humans ... tsk tsk .... there is one tho, a trend i noticed. is slowly creeping towards its goal, but hardly noticeable, when it do damage, it would be really fast. it isnt a big thing, but its called germs. i am not jus counting on the germs to evlove and be so deadly it kills us all ... the fact is, ppl have changed , and somewhat, this change invloves weaker body systems. the new generation, they have been given all type of immunity, humans live in a "cleaner" enviroment now, not close to any regular germs. wat i am pointing out is ... our immune systems are getting weaker, not exposed to fights, they are jus slacking ard ... and when the battle comes, they will be defeated like so easy .... and tats how, i figure humans will one day extinct...

it was jus one of my ideas, i wrote it in my blog, but i feel i wanna share...

[KiwiKitty]

Sadly, while we have the technology to possibly prevent a comet strike, we don't have the means to test it. Even if we were successful in averting a comet or (more likely) asteroid strike, we may only bump it into a different orbit which will cause us more problems. Or... we may cause the Earth to be hit not with a single bullet, but with buckshot. The other thing about averting threats from space, it would cost a lot to do, is extremely exacting, and the greatest warning of a possible strike we usually get from an asteroid is when we notice it's already gone past us and they backtrack along its course. Or, at most, we get a few days warning. But honestly, if a 1-kilometre chunk of iron or rock dropped in the Atlantic, you could kiss the eastern half of the US goodbye, along with a lot of Europe. One that size in the Pacific would take out the western half of the US, most of Asia, NZ, a good chunk of Australia... if one 10-km hit, it would make a crater roughly 180km wide, generate a shockwave enough to pulverise anything within 2000km, and create worldwide firestorms... we know this because it happened once before (however, the dinosaurs were well in decline by this point, and this was probably just the end point).

Viruses we've had a lucky break from over the last hundred years, but really, our biggest threat isn't from a lacking immune system, it's from viruses directly targeting our immune system or that can attack faster than our immune system can muster a response (AIDS/HIV for the first, haemorrhagic fevers like Ebola and varients for the second) and from the speed at which viruses can reproduce - those few with an immunity to our drugs can reproduce and infect faster than we can research new drugs to combat them.

While it's not accepted by a lot of climatologists, there is a lot of evidence that animals like mammoths were temperate creatures, and were found with temperate plants in their stomachs and mouths - and were frozen standing up, chewing. Which does suggest the superstorm seen in The Day After Tomorrow, or something, could be a real possibility. Previously, I'd heard climatologists in the 80's say an ice age could occur in a 20-40 year period, there are people now saying it could be a 5-10 day period, with excessive snap freezes that would freeze people solid in their tracks.

You've got the possibility of volcanic outpourings, like the Deccan Traps, or the Siberian flows. The Deccan Traps in India are thought to be responsible for the decline of the dinosaurs, and possibly their extinction.

Humans have bacteria in their gut and intestines that break down food for us to use as energy - if this dies off, regardless of how much food we eat, the human race wouldn't last.

Lakes in Africa had CO2 inversions back in... the 80s? A layer of CO2 had lain at the bottom of the lakes. Atmospheric conditions churned the lake over more than usual, and the CO2 rushed to the surface, and spread out across the region. It killed quite a few people in a number of villages, killed a heck of a lot of animals, was silent, deadly, and fast-moving. It's unlikely, but still possible this could happen on a much larger region.

The Van Allen belt could always deteriorate, and we could die of cancers within days or hours from solar radiation. Same with the ozone layer (but that's a bit easier to get around, we move inside or underground, it wouldn't be instantly lethal).

The more fantastical, but still possible... we could be replaced by something higher up on the foodchain. We could out-evolve ourselves by a few people giving birth to mutant children who may be incredibly handy at eliminating the older species. We could develop machine intelligences which decide they're superior to us and wipe us out (futurists still see this as one of the biggest threats to the human race; I've seen one list it as the biggest chance for our extinction within the next 100 years). Aliens could invade (economically unlikely as we understand space travel, war and economics, but who says the way we developed is the only possible way?). God or Gods could judge us and find us wanting. The Y-chromosome could deteriorate faster than expected, and another chromosome might not step into the breach in time to stop the decline of the male half of the species, robbing the species in a few decades of millions of years of genetic diversity, which would then have knock-on effects with lots of biological and physiological aspects. Chemicals and environmental factors already causing a decline in fertility rates in the West could knock our reproductive ability on the head full-stop.

On top of that, you've got the standard climate change/desertification/raising ocean levels/mass loss of species diversification causing problems in many food chains/nuclear-biological war/ethnic-specific bioweapons things that have been going around for decades or longer...

Just a few more possibilities into the mix (yeah, disaster nut, feel free to disagree or discuss any points).

[Jay]

Jesus hates people who say dun. Take the extra fucking time to type one more letter.

How is the world going to end? People are going to fry themselves. But by then I'll be dead, so I don't care.

[p1c4z0]

You are all wrong, this is how the world will end...

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/endofworld.html

[Jay]

That reminds me...

http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/world.htm

Oh, and I'm using your avatar when you're finished with it. :p

[Joe]

Refutations:

http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arch/11_16_96/fob2.htm

An interesting article depicting that the 'Y' chromosome may have had it's deterioration countered. Don't count us out of the game just yet.

http://archives.thedaily.washington.edu/1999/080499/N8.ychromes.html

That is an article I read about the deterioration of the 'y' chromosome. I don't know if that is where you found out about it, or have gotten some information from it, but the leading protagonist, is a sexist bitch, and is obviously seeing just what she wants to see.

Can I ask where you got that we would die from Cancers in hours or days? No offense, but do you know how cancer works? Because see, cancer is not something radiation gives you, cancer is caused when the genetic code of a cell is altered enough so that a cell starts reproducing like crazy, and eats all your bodies energy. It happens more often then we think, but our bodies tend to kill the cell. Plus, you couldn't die from cancer in just a few days or hours. It takes time for your evil cell to reproduce enough to start consuming enough energy to be noticed. If we were to die from cancer, we could have a bunch of cancer, perhaps all non-related, but it would still take much longer then a few days.

Not to mention that the Van Allen Belt Does not protect us from radiation, it is a great source of radiation, as shown here, in fact people are trying to devise a way of making it go away, as it is a large hazard for people in space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_belt

Edit: I see now, you were referring to our magnetic field. The Van Allen Belt is the result of when radiation, and the magnetic field collide, and the mangetic field captures the radiation.

A "super virus" is really more science fiction then it is science fact. Take HIV for example, have you seen the treatments for it? http://www.thebody.com/treat/protinh.html
HIV is living on borrowed time. There are some truely brilliant minds at work when it comes to genetics. As our knowledge increases, so do our capabilities. HIV is scary because it attacks out immune system, but take HIV out of the picture and our immune system starts working again. HIV is dangerous because it uses a fundamentally unstable protein called Protease, which is so unstable, complex life can't reproduce with it. It makes many, doesn't fix it's mistakes, resulting in rapid mutations, and it is only a fluke that HIV is so deadly. It is actualy a more fragile virus, as it can't survive outside a body.

And I'm not going to touch the greenhouse gases arguements with a 10 foot pole, because both sides are so heated about it, and there is so much data for both sides, it'd be better to just sit it out until something really ground breaking happens. This refers to global warming, "The day after tomorrow" propaganda, as well as the CO2 inversions (Which I couldn't find anything about, by the way)

I've never heard of any country having the capability of stopping an asteroid. If you can show me where you've seen it, I would be very appreciative. In fact, the contrary is what I've heard. That we don't, and that we're looking for a way. (And no, most scientists agree, pulling an Armageddon wouldn't work.)

Other than those, the only point I agree with you on, is the Volcano point. If we were to die out, that would be the most likely way. There are a bunch of super volcanos, with Yellow Stone being the biggest, that will probably go in a few ten-thousand years.

If humanity were to kill ITSELF I forsee two ways.

One is Nukes. The other is Christians. They are far too zealous about exterminating those who don't follow their beliefs Ala Nazis, Romans, Southern America >.> ... Don't hide alabama, we know.

However, I feel that humanity will persist, because we do that very well.

[Ev0]

My money is on an asteroid.

There are tons of massive asteroids floating around space. It's only a matter of time before one of them hits us (who knows when that could be...). And, although we certainly have the technology to destroy a large asteroid, the means of fielding such technology is another matter. It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't destroy it because politicians squabbled for too long over matters regarding funding a project (although I think if it ever came to this, we should just say screw money, we're all dead if we don't do anything).

I don't see a massive pandemic wiping us out completely. Obviously, we're overdue for one (I will slap anyone who thinks sars was a true pandemic...), but I don't think we could be completely wiped out by one. I'd wager as much as 90%+ of humans could be wiped out by a particularily nasty disease, but some people would manage to escape (Especially those living in isolated rural regions).

And I don't think nuclear war will wipe us all out. I can easily see some countries being completely destroyed by nukes (Not ICBMs, but bombs planted by groups like Al-Qaeda). The reason the entire world probably won't be destroyed by nukes is because now the most major threat is not a country that can easily be attacked, but it's small cells of fanatics who are nearly impossible to target at times.

[firaz]

dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun want to take time to type another letter!

anyway about the asteroid, i read from a certain yahoo news some time ago, it was talking about some space people knowing that there are only currently 2 asteroids coming near earth in the near future and they were not talking about blowing up the asteriods. remember the deep impact space mission ? they jus wanna use the same thing to alter the asteroid's travelling path so that it misses earth. well, they says their "chart" says its possible, so we have to trust them right ? haha ...

[Snake eyeS]

dont make me bring out the all knowing site about end of the world senarios, this really is a useless thread.. just READ THIS SITE!!! (http://www.exitmundi.nl/)

[setrict]

One is Nukes. The other is Christians. They are far too zealous about exterminating those who don't follow their beliefs Ala Nazis, Romans, Southern America >.> ... Don't hide alabama, we know.

WTF :confused:

Those wacky christians, praying their way to extinction. You haven't known fear until you've seen a nun packing a sidearm. Such an informative post until your brain exploded at the end!

[AgentOrange]

Wasn't there something about the end of the Mayan long count calender in Dec of 2012? I remember reading something like that a while ago but I can't look it up right now cause I got no time.

[yogi]

Wasn't there something about the end of the Mayan long count calender in Dec of 2012? I remember reading something like that a while ago but I can't look it up right now cause I got no time.

Yeah I heard that from a movie once.

[RDClip]

Well, the EARTH will be over in a few million years when the Sun dies.

I'll hang on to the belief that thsi planet will become inhabitable. Global warming, ice age whatever. But, I do believe in human invention with the possibility of offworld colonies.

"The world won't end with a bang, but with a whimper."

[gdorman2479]

Ok im going to give my opinion on everything:

Well, the EARTH will be over in a few million years when the Sun dies.
Actually it will be about 4.5 billion years when that happens. And the Sun will not just die, rather it will explode in a supernova, swallowing the earth. This is the most realistic possbility of the earth being destroyed. Another possible way is a black hole in another galaxy is slowly merging with our black hole. When these 2 finally meet in the far future, it will create a huge storm. Best case scenario: the earth gets the back-side of the storm, throwing the earth far into space. Worst case scenario: We get the front-side of the storm and it swallows the earth. The only other possiblilty i can think of is the theory that the universe is expanding. Eventually, the universe will collapse and all matter and energy will be compressed into a ball about the size of a human fist. All of these will happen in the far future, so it really comes down to which ever comes first.

Wasn't there something about the end of the Mayan long count calender in Dec of 2012? I remember reading something like that a while ago but I can't look it up right now cause I got no time.
It was in the muslim bible or some other bible. It stated that an earthquake would hit in 2010 and a comet would hit the earth in 2012.

I'll hang on to the belief that thsi planet will become inhabitable. Global warming, ice age whatever. But, I do believe in human invention with the possibility of offworld colonies.
I dont think the earth will ever become completely uninhabitable by humans. Technology just wont allow it. We now have the technology to survive ice ages or global warming or almost anything nature can throw at us.

The other is Christians. They are far too zealous about exterminating those who don't follow their beliefs Ala Nazis, Romans, Southern America >.> ... Don't hide alabama, we know.
I happen to be a Christian and i resent that. We allow all other religions to worship in peace. I have yet to see a Christian person bomb a Muslim building just because of their religion.

[conners]

During my first period after I become Empress and assign my loyal Fedayeen to control my nuclear arsenal. duh.

But really:
Global warming: Nah. It will just depopulate some areas. Hasta la vista the Netherlands, the Mississippi River Valley, etc. But on the plus side once the South Pole melts we can exploit the mineral resources under it. At my school people think that global warming is racially motivated since the white countries (North America and Europe) will be able to use their tech to get through it, while the poorer countries will suffer. Think about that nasty El Nino event and droughts back in the 1980s and multiple it by a factor of a few hundred.

As for religion, ugh. GDorman, the local 'Christian' priest use to organize groups of rednecks to come burn crosses and other KKK style stuff in our yard so that the 'damn slant eyes would know they aren't welcome here' back in the early 80s. Also see abortion clinics.

I personally have my money on asteroid. We had one sneak up and barely (aka by a few hundred thousand kilometers) miss us like 5-6 years ago. That's reassuring. America should build a missile shield / comet zapper! For extra fun we can use the lasers to carve out funny cartoons of Osama in the moon.

[mawande]

Oh, and don't forget that the moon is moving away from us, and when it passes too far the oceans will burn up and earth's tilt will destabilize.

[Praetorian]

http://adin.dyndns.org/adin/TheLastQ.htm

Will mankind one day without the net expenditure of energy be able to restore the sun to its full youthfulness even after it had died of old age?

[Cool Bones]

The only other possiblilty i can think of is the theory that the universe is expanding. Eventually, the universe will collapse and all matter and energy will be compressed into a ball about the size of a human fist. All of these will happen in the far future, so it really comes down to which ever comes first.


who said that and how could it happen? it sounds dumb

[Mittens]

The world will end by my hand

[D-pad]

A solar flash aimed in our direction would wipe us out in 8 seconds after it happens.

[MrQ]

Jesus hates people who say dun. Take the extra fucking time to type one more letter.

How is the world going to end? People are going to fry themselves. But by then I'll be dead, so I don't care.

Lol.

Anyway, a bit of advice for the OP. Dont be concerned about such things, concentrate on what you can do today for your fellow man and woman. No one knows how or when the world will end. Dont waste your time trying to discover what is impossible to learn. Your life can end any second and no one is promised to live another day. Take advantage of such things.

[paul]

Yep, I agree
Most scientists say that in case of a mass meteor-caused extinction, we would not even see it coming until its too late, or there is a very tiny chance. The biggest telescopes can only scan like 1/1millionth of the sky at any given time.
no point in worrying.

[Rogue_7]

Actually it will be about 4.5 billion years when that happens. And the Sun will not just die, rather it will explode in a supernova, swallowing the earth.




no it won't! The Sun is not massive enough to go Supernova. It will expand to become a Red Giant, maybe expanding all the way to Earth's Orbit, maybe not. Even if it doesn't make it this far, the extreme heat would boil the oceans and pretty much fry all that was left on Earth. If we did manage to survive that, we certainly wouldnt survive the collapse into a tiny and rather cold White Dwarf, at which point everything would freeze solid and Earth's weather would go from Venus to Pluto.

[Collapse]

By human hands. I swear, this is the most natural thing that will happen. Why wait for 4.5 billion years before the sun swallows the earth when it becomes a faint white star, or 2010 when a comet may hit earth?

I mean, a possible explaination would be Dr. Suzuki's theory of negative growth where the population is so expanse, death would be sanctuary and everyone would be soylent green. Or it could be Titor's prediction of a nuclear war attrition whatsoever that will eliminate more than a billion lives. Or our current disrespect for nature will be one day be humanity's undoing.

Hell, I won't know but I know that humans will destroy this planet with their godforesaken attitudes followed by a natural end.

But I wouldn't care. I'm already dead by then.

[karthun]

I am leaning towards the sun going supernova in 4.5 billion (or so) years.

[Rogue_7]

I am leaning towards the sun going supernova in 4.5 billion (or so) years.

Gah?!?! Did you not read what I *just* wrote.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for the Sun to go Supernova. Its too small. Small!!! No supernova for you.

:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

[Cool Bones]

I am leaning towards the sun going supernova in 4.5 billion (or so) years.

Yeah supernova... That's what i'm thinking too.







LOLLL just kidding Rogue_7

[Decade]

Astronomers say "Maybe when we collide with Andromeda."

[gdorman2479]

Yeah Rogue_7 is right. Sorry about that guys. After a little more research, i noticed that the sun is not massive enough to supernova. Again, sorry about that.

Anyway, about the universe collapsing, i found a web site briefly explaining it.
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/cgi-bin/tour_def/the_universe/Crunch.html

[Snake eyeS]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP ARGUING AND FIND ALL THE INFO YOU EVER NEED ABOUT END WORLD SENARIOS RIGHT HERE (http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm)

you guys need to listen, all the gospel has been laid down in that site.
I've already linked to the sites ones, but just like the comfort thread for poor little Pris, you guys just dont listen. fuckers.

ow ye, and you better believe im drunk.

edit: the next person to write his own theory about world end senarios better have something original, because my sites covers (almost) everything.

[Osucka]

edit: the next person to write his own theory about world end senarios better have something original, because my sites covers (almost) everything.

It turns out our entire universe is a peanut in the turd of a supreme being. in 2008 we will be dislodged when it scraps against his anus while exiting. The End.

[Jon885]

"One is Nukes. The other is Christians. They are far too zealous about exterminating those who don't follow their beliefs Ala Nazis, Romans, Southern America >.> ... Don't hide alabama, we know." -Joe

Am I the only one here who notices that a lot of people here hate Christians, and republicans? I'm not very religious, and I'm more liberal than conservative I think, but I wouldn't mind seeing more diversity in political and religious thinking here. Or at least more moderates. Oh well; I guess that's another topic..

As for the world ending you never know with a lot of countries being equipped with nuclear weapons, and the sudden climate change could be the cause of global warming, but I don't know enough about it to say that's what's causing it for sure. And then there's the asteroid theory. There was just something about this on an old show called "Unsolved Mysteries" and a person was talking about there being some concern over an asteroid hitting the earth. I'm just hoping nothing happens, and there's no way you can 100% accurately predict the world ending anyway so I try not to think about it.

[Collapse]

They single out Christians because they think these Christians are too hubaloo.

Sadly, their thinking can be as narrow as a funnel.

[Rogue_7]

Yeah Rogue_7 is right. Sorry about that guys. After a little more research, i noticed that the sun is not massive enough to supernova. Again, sorry about that.

Anyway, about the universe collapsing, i found a web site briefly explaining it.
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/cgi-bin/tour_def/the_universe/Crunch.html

Forgiven ;-)

I just knew taking that astronomy class would pay off, some day!

oh and Jon 885, all the moderates are gone because I killed them...

and ate them.

[MrQ]

Am I the only one here who notices that a lot of people here hate Christians, and republicans? I'm not very religious, and I'm more liberal than conservative I think, but I wouldn't mind seeing more diversity in political and religious thinking here. Or at least more moderates. Oh well; I guess that's another topic..



Welcome to the internet.

[Jay]

Holy thread resurrection MrQ. :eyepop:

[kyaa the catlord]

Its like Lazarus! Whee!

Did I say anything about reptillians in this thread yet? :D

[Angelyne]

Wasn't there something about the end of the Mayan long count calender in Dec of 2012? I remember reading something like that a while ago but I can't look it up right now cause I got no time.

The last creation ended on a long count of 13.0.0.0.0. Another 13.0.0.0.0 will occur on December 21, 2012, and it has been discussed in many New Age articles and books that this will be the end of this creation or something else entirely. However, the Maya abbreviated their long counts to just the last five vigesimal places. There were an infinitely larger number of units that were usually not shown. When the larger units were shown (notably on a monument from Coba), it is expressed as 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0, where the larger units are evidently supposed to be 13s in all larger places. In this age we are only approaching 0.0.0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0, and the larger places are nowhere near the 13s that would match the end of the last creation.

This is confirmed by a date from Palenque, which projects forward in time to 1.0.0.0.0.0, which will occur on October 13, 4772. The Classic Period Maya obviously did not believe that the end of this age would occur in 2012. According to the Maya, there will be a baktun ending in 2012, a significant event being the end of a 400 year period, but not the end of the age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calendar

Considering how accurate the Mayan calendar was for its time, it's going to be really interesting to see what happens in 2012. :eyepop:

[Jon885]

Welcome to the internet.

Thanks man. It's taken you long enough since I've been using the internet for several years now. I go to other places on the Internet and most of the places I go to people don't bash a particular group. There might be a few trolls that do but it seems more socially acceptable around here to. But I've since gotten over it.

[InsertWapNameHere]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calendar

Considering how accurate the Mayan calendar was for its time, it's going to be really interesting to see what happens in 2012. :eyepop:


Most people in the shamanic/"new age"/etc community have come to the conclusion that it is simply the end of the 4th world and the start of the 5th, a sorta new start, filled with better ideas driving society and such. you should listen to this (http://www.matrixmasters.com/podcasts/DanielPinchbeck/DanielPinchbeck-BurningMan2005.mp3) recording. also, the other stuff over at the www.matrixmasters.com site is pretty interesting and worth checking out.

Terence mckenna is also someone you should look up. He (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_mckenna) came up with thetimewave zero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timewave_zero) theory, which is very important because normally scientists and such love dismissing all this as bs, but this is a solid mathimatical theory, and come on, the novelty factor is getting pretty damn silly. vice presidents shooting people,cokehead presidents, the same people we're killing guarding our ports, etc etc. 8D