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Sock Full of Boiled Dimes
09-23-2006, 07:01 AM
So now Hugo Chavez, a guest in our country no less, has said some nasty stuff about our President.


Chavez says President Bush should resign By NATALIE OBIKO PEARSON, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 3 minutes ago

CARACAS, Venezuela - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez launched yet another verbal assault against President Bush upon returning from a highly charged U.S. visit Friday, calling on the American leader to resign.

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Chavez also suggested that New York city police were behind a electrical disruption during his speech Thursday in Harlem, but police denied the allegation.

"He should renounce the presidency if he has any dignity. The president of the United States has failed completely," Chavez said at the inauguration of a natural gas project in northwestern Venezuela.

It was Chavez's first appearance since returning from the United States, where he called Bush "the devil" at the United Nations' General Assembly and later criticized him in a speech to supporters at a church in Harlem.

The comments coming near U.S. legislative elections have drawn condemnation even from some of Bush's critics.

Bush's political foes and fans alike condemned the remarks, U.S. newspapers criticized the Venezuelan leader, and one governor said his state is no longer interested in buying discounted heating oil from Venezuela-owned Citgo this winter.

In Boston, a city councilor said he wants to take down a landmark Citgo sign near the city's famed baseball park and replace it with an American flag.

"Given the hatred of the United States displayed by dictator Hugo Chavez, it would be more fitting to see an American flag when you drive through Kenmore Square," councilor Jerry McDermott told The Boston Herald, saying the sign — prominently visible over the left-field wall at Fenway Park — had to go.

On Friday, The New York Daily News' front page headline told Chavez to "ZIP IT!" and the New York Post called him a "jerk" and the "Caracas crackpot."

"I wanted President Chavez to please understand that even though many people in the United States are critical of our president that we resent the fact that he would come to the United States and criticize President Bush," Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record), D-NY., said Thursday.

Chavez appeared unfazed by the outcry.

"The imperialist government of the United States says we have failed but they are the ones that have failed in everything you see," he said Friday.

He accused the Bush administration of fueling terrorism, claimed that both the CIA and U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration were "infiltrated" by drug traffickers, and urged people to divest their dollars because new bills were being "fabricated."

In an interview broadcast Friday Chavez kept up his attack.

"I think it was a rather humorous speech," Chavez told TV and radio host Tavis Smiley in a PBS broadcast. "People were smiling."

But then added, "(Bush) considers himself a god. And that is a terrible manipulation, since this is obeying interests that are against God. And since he considers himself like God, when you call him the devil, it is just to strike a balance."

During his comments in Venezuuela, Chavez also accused the New York city police of deliberately cutting off the power supply to disrupt his speech at Harlem's Mount Olivet Baptist Church, when a live transmission of the event by Venezuela's state TV station was interrupted for a few minutes.

"Contrary to his assertions, the New York Police Department did not in any way interfere with efforts to transmit information from New York," Deputy Commissioner Paul J. Browne said in a statement distributed by the U.S. Embassy in Venezuela.

Venezuelan Information Minister Willian Lara had initially accused the CIA of being behind the disruption, but Venezuelan Ambassador Bernardo Alvarez later said New York police officers were responsible.

Insults have increasingly flown between Caracas and Washington since 2002, when the U.S. swiftly recognized leaders who briefly ousted Chavez in a coup, before Chavez returned to power amid massive street protests.

U.S. officials regularly call the Venezuelan leader a destabilizing force, and Bush has said he sees Chavez as a threat to democracy. Chavez has called Bush a "devil" in the past.

Now, let me tell you something. I am no fan of president Bush. I think the man runs on a platform of complete order in the US. I think he runs on one big issue and runs with it. Bush is not stupid, but is obviously lacking in the department on knowing what goes on outside of the US. Iraq, for example, but you already know about this don't you?

I just want to point out something. What gives Hugo Chavez that kind of right to do something jerky like this? Hell, he's not even a good leader in his own country and he's insulting our office of the presidency?

It breaks down to this simply and this is how it always breaks down. President Bush was democratically elected in the 2004 election by the majority of the electorial college vote. He won that and popular vote in according to however the hell our voting system works these days. He has 2 more years and thats it.

To make things worse he's actually insulting our own country.

I've seen national pride go down quite a bit lately mostly due to the part that people in this country don't like being told that they should have national pride. They obviously feel that its propaganda to say, "You should love your country" and in the most part it is, but national pride is down when it was really up in 2001.

However, he is also making constant verbal attacks to my country when, in fact, I kinda love living here.

He's also just insane.

Kusoyaro
09-23-2006, 07:10 AM
Like living in Rome before the Vandals/Goths came around, innit folks

Mechs
09-23-2006, 08:06 AM
When you have Democrats actually defending Bush from the verbal bashing Hugo gave him, you know you fucked up big time.

I Like Shinny!
09-23-2006, 08:59 AM
When you have Democrats actually defending Bush from the verbal bashing Hugo gave him, you know you fucked up big time.
Quoted for truth. :clap:

Y.T.
09-23-2006, 10:18 AM
Bush loses the next election. Someone normal takes
over the mess.
He retires to Crawford, does
some boring stuff, and when the media gets bored with him,
he will board a flight to Moscow. There he will be met by
a black BMW, that will take him to the Kremlin.
He would be escorted to the office of the president.
He will enter alone, kiss Putin and say:
"Mr. President, FSB Agent number 119 reports that
the task of destroying the worlds sole remaining superpower is finished."

bakagaijin
09-23-2006, 10:34 AM
To put this topic in Context, here is the transcript of the speech:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/9/20/123752.shtml?s=rss

Candyvan Stan
09-23-2006, 10:35 AM
Bush loses the next election. Someone normal takes
over the mess.
He retires to Crawford, does
some boring stuff, and when the media gets bored with him,
he will board a flight to Moscow. There he will be met by
a black BMW, that will take him to the Kremlin.
He would be escorted to the office of the president.
He will enter alone, kiss Putin and say:
"Mr. President, FSB Agent number 119 reports that
the task of destroying the worlds sole remaining superpower is finished."


There won't be a next election for Bush. You can't get elected president more than twice.

MeneerDijk
09-23-2006, 10:37 AM
Didn't he try to sneakily revoke that amandement? I figure it was torpedoed by congress, but i never heard what happened with that?

japanat
09-23-2006, 12:33 PM
Chavez doesn't give a flying fig what Americans think of his speech. He's just trying to score some points with rabble-rousers world-wide by having the balls to make the speech Stateside (said rabble-rousers not being intelligent or educated enough to know that anyone could give that speech and be protected by the Constitution of the US).

Moron (Chavez, not you all)... My brother worked in Venezuela for one of the oil companies. Chavez's policies drove many companies out, the same companies which are developing the oil fields that give Venezuela it's political clout in the first place.

Chavez's speech doesn't surprise me at all. But if senators start that "freedom-fries" BS again, it just makes us look bad. Moron #2!

Y.T.
09-23-2006, 12:41 PM
Roosevelt did not serve three terms?

Besides, it's the war on terror. They are trying to spin it
as the "Third World War" , aren't they?

DizBukHaPeter
09-23-2006, 01:11 PM
THe amendment to limit the numbers of terms was enacted after Roosevelt.

japanat
09-23-2006, 01:18 PM
Enacted because of Roosevelt. The Republicans said "Never again!"

Guess it bit them in the ass....

Sock Full of Boiled Dimes
09-23-2006, 02:15 PM
Roosevelt did not serve three terms?

Besides, it's the war on terror. They are trying to spin it
as the "Third World War" , aren't they?

Know your politics a little better. Roosevelt served three terms, but that was before the Amendment was passed.

The 22nd Amendment says this:
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.

To actually pass a new Amendment or revoke one is extreamly hard to do. Even Republicans will shoot this one down. Even if it is a time of war we don't need a president 3 terms in.

Plekto
09-23-2006, 03:37 PM
So? Watch Bush's bother in Florida make a bid for the job soon. And miraculously win in yet another rigged election.

One family - 20 years as President. Something's just not right with that picture.

Fermented Yeast Paste
09-23-2006, 04:15 PM
Unless the Democratic candidate were particularly awful, Jeb Bush wouldn't stand a chance.

CrazyAce86
09-23-2006, 04:19 PM
Actually, he was elected four times, but died shortly after the start of his fourth term.

Let Hugo Chavez piss and moan all he wants. We got bigger problems to worry about than him, and it's not like anyone is really listening to him anyway. Well, except maybe Pat Robertson.

Spaatz965
09-23-2006, 05:19 PM
So? Watch Bush's bother in Florida make a bid for the job soon. And miraculously win in yet another rigged election.

One family - 20 years as President. Something's just not right with that picture.

While I was living in Florida (1999-2002), Jeb was a pretty descent governor. I was generally happy with his administration. After having moved back to New York, some of the things I've seen out of Jeb and Florida haven't been all that great. From everything I've heard, Jeb doesn't want to run for President. Depending on his opponent, I probably wouldn't vote for him.

Back to Chavez...it says something when Charles Rangole steps up and makes a statement backing any republican. Same goes for Pelosi. WOW.

Come into the UN, dis us...walk around in our house and dis us more to score points back home and around the world...then offer to sell us oil on the cheap. I don't know which is more offensive, the original insult or the blatent attempt to calm us down with a bribe.

Druid
09-23-2006, 05:39 PM
I wonder...how much of a Hindu would Chavez look like with a red dot on his head? Hmm....

edit:alot apparently.


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/NicholasAbraham/loldeath.jpg

And to those who don't get my perverse humor, one word: Sniper.
:)

I Like Shinny!
09-23-2006, 06:52 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/NicholasAbraham/loldeath.jpg
Hm... the dot should be smaller. :worried:

Druid
09-23-2006, 08:33 PM
Bigger gun, bigger dot.
*dances*
But oh well. Tis nothin different. There's always gonna be someone callin somebody else the devil. This generation is no different.

Sock Full of Boiled Dimes
09-23-2006, 08:45 PM
So? Watch Bush's bother in Florida make a bid for the job soon. And miraculously win in yet another rigged election.

One family - 20 years as President. Something's just not right with that picture.

Rigged election?

BWAHAHAHA! 2004 wasn't rigged, I don't care how many people actually think so.

CrazyAce86
09-23-2006, 09:00 PM
They don't need to rig it in a country full of dumbasses.

Oops, did I say aloud? Whoopsie. *whistles*

Again, let ol' Hugo Boy prattle on like a teenybopper with a crush. He sounds like the adults on Charlie Brown anyway, so I doubt anyone is really going to take him seriously.

So he hates America. Whoo-hoo. Tell him to take a number and get in line, because he's not the first, not the last, and no where near original in his complaints.

Y.T.
09-23-2006, 10:43 PM
Americans elect dumbasses too. Without rigging the vote, right?
Only conspiracy theorists claim that voting machines are flawed,
elections stolen etc.. etc.


Chavez is more funny to watch than Bush.
Though, Hitler was more charismatic.. and reputedly was
very good at convincing people to do what he wanted.
Too bad republicans cannot get him to run for president. Hitler would make
a very good American president, if someone found a way of raising him
from the dead. During the war, he suffered because he was unable to
relax and overextended himself.. also, the loathsome people around him
were not a good influence.

He had a very good memory and was a voracious reader. What many people
forget is, that he fought in WWI and was decorated for bravery.
Unlike certain pilot who never lighted up an enemy radar screen.
His fixation on Jews, inferiority complex etc... you Americans have psychoanalysts
for that. If he had several years to learn English.. it is a similar language.
He would be also very enviromentalistic today. He liked nature,
and someone who had the guts to start a World War and attack Russia,
would no doubt have the spine to take on corporate America.

And, the white house would save money.. Hitler could speak to
audiences without written notes. He would not need speechwriters
and would get on splendidly with Hamas because of his past
activities. He would also make a great War president.
Would sort out the mess in Iraq for sure.

Not sure whether he would visit Israel.
He would probably be happy tha Jews have their own country
and are not infesting Germany.. (I am sure he would get on
splendidly with Israeli lobbyists. At least the SS would have
some fun protecting them and not president for a change).
And he did not have that glassy eyed stare.

japanat
09-23-2006, 11:38 PM
And the flame war commences....

BTW, Hitler had the guts to attack Russia, and start a 2-front war, against the advice of all his strategists and the General Staff. Sound familiar?

Would sort out the mess in Iraq for sure. He lost, remember?

Y.T.
09-23-2006, 11:46 PM
BTW, Hitler had the guts to attack Russia, and start a 2-front war, against the advice of all his strategists and the General Staff. Sound familiar?

La Manche was "not a front".
Britain was nearly strangled by submarine warfare.. and would have
succumbed had not the US entered the war.

There is some evidence that Stalin was planning something with the
20 000 tanks he had and the 15 000 aircraft. in summer of 1941.
Look it up. Soviet Russia had more heavy weaponry than the rest of the
world combined. They lacked proper radios though...
Not to mention guns, lots of guns.

Some people claim that Barbarossa came just weeks before
a major Russian attack .

Citizen
09-24-2006, 12:01 AM
Locked for being off-topic. You can take WWII to PMs, IMs, or to a different topic.