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Wizdom
09-12-2006, 09:58 PM
Disclaimer** i got this from another forum


History of the Black Man: From Africa to Japan: The Black Samurai

In another thread, a discussion of blacks in Japan was the theme.
The discussion was so compelling that even I remembered reading (somewhere)
about the first blacks introduced to Japan belonged to whites moving along trade ships.
The native Japanese didnt know tails from heads and confused these slaves as being some of
their Gods. I couldnt find that article; it was a good read, and if anyone finds that article, it would
be much appreciated. In the meantime, I stumbled upon something equally profound....

Now on to the first Shogun ever in Japan's history [thats right, "ever"]....


"For a Samurai to be brave, he must have a bit of Black blood."
--Japanese Proverb




THE BLACK PRESENCE IN EARLY JAPAN
Although the island nation of Japan, occupying the extreme eastern extensions of Asia, is assumed by many to have been historically composed of an essentially homogeneous population and culture, the accumulated evidence (much of which has been quietly ignored) places the matter in a vastly different light, and though far more study needs to be done on the subject, it seems indisputable that Black people in Japan played an important role from the most remote phases of antiquity into at least the ninth century.


SAKANOUYE NO TAMURAMARO: SEI-I TAI-SHOGUN OF EARLY JAPAN
Of the Black people of early Japan, the most picturesque single figure was Sakanouye no Tamuramaro, a warrior symbolized in Japanese history as a "paragon of military virtues," and a man who has captured the attention of some of the most distinguished scholars of twentieth century America. Perhaps the first such scholar to make note of Tamuramaro was Alexander Francis Chamberlain (1865-1914). An anthropologist, Chamberlain was born in Kenninghall, Norfolk, England, and was brought to America as a child. In April 1911 the Journal of Race Development published an essay by Chamberlain entitled "The Contribution of the Negro to Human Civilization." While discussing the African presence in early Asia, Chamberlain stated in an exceptionally frank and matter of fact manner:


"And we can cross the whole of Asia and find the Negro again, for when, in far-off Japan, the ancestors of the modern Japanese were making their way northward against the Ainu, the aborigines of that country, the leader of their armies was Sakanouye Tamuramaro, a famous general and a Negro."

Dr. W.E.B. DuBois (1868-1963), perhaps the greatest scholar in American history, in his book, The Negro (first published in 1915), placed Sakanouye Tamuramaro within a list of some of the most distinguished Black rulers and warriors in antiquity. In 1922, Carter G. Woodson (1875-1950) and Charles Harris Wesley (1891-?) in a chapter called "Africans in History with Others," in their book The Negro in Our History, quoted Chamberlain on Tamuramaro verbatim. In the November 1940 issue of the Negro History Bulletin (founded by Dr. Woodson), artist and illustrator Lois Maillou Jones (1905-1998) contributed a brief article entitled "Sakanouye Tamura Maro." In the article Jones pointed out that:

"The probable number of Negroes who reached the shores of Asia my be estimated somewhat by the wide area over which they were found on that continent. Historians tell us that at one time Negroes were found in all of the countries of southern Asia bordering the Indian Ocean and along the east coast as far as Japan. There are many interesting stories told by those who reached that distant land which at that time they called `Cipango.'

One of the most prominent characters in Japanese history was a Negro warrior called Sakanouye Tamura Maro. Sakanouye was a warrior symbolized in early Japanese history as a "paragon of military virtues.

Adwoa Asantewaa B. Munroe referenced Tamuramaro in the 1981 publication What We Should Know About African Religion, History and Culture, and wrote that "He was an African warrior. He was prominent during the rule of the Japanese Emperor Kwammu, who reigned from 782- 806 A.D." In 1989 Dr. Mark Hyman authored a booklet entitled Black Shogun of Japan in which he stated that "The fact remains that Sakanouye Tamuramaro was an African. He was Japanese. He was a great fighting general. He was a Japanese Shogun."

Sakanouye no Tamuramaro is regarded as an outstanding military commander of the early Heian royal court. The Heian Period (794-1185 C.E.) derives its name from Heian-Kyo, which means "the Capital of Peace and Tranquility," and was the original name for Japan's early capital city--Kyoto. It was during the Heian Period that the term Samurai was first used. According to Papinot, the "word comes from the very word samuaru, or better saburau, which signifies: to be on one's guard, to guard; it applied especially to the soldiers who were on guard at the Imperial palace."

The samurai have been called the knights or warrior class of Medieval Japan and the history of the samurai is very much the history of Japan itself. For hundreds of years, to the restoration of the Meiji emperor in 1868, the samurai were the flower of Japan and are still idolized by many Japanese. The samurai received a pension from their feudal lord, and had the privilege of wearing two swords. They intermarried in their own caste and the privilege of samurai was transmitted to all the children, although the heir alone received a pension.

The "paragon of military virtues," Sakanouye no Tamuramaro (758-811) was, in the words of James Murdoch:

"In as sense the originator of what was subsequently to develop into the renowned samurai class, he provided in his own person a worthy model for the professional warrior on which to fashion himself and his character. In battle, a veritable war-god; in peace the gentlest of manly gentlemen, and the simplest and unassuming of men."

Throughout his career, Tamuramaro was rewarded for his services with high civil as well as military positions. In 797 he was named "barbarian-subduing generalissimo" (Sei-i Tai-Shogun), and in 801-802 he again campaigned in northern Japan, establishing fortresses at Izawa and Shiwa and effectively subjugating the Ainu.

In 810 he helped to suppress an attempt to restore the retired emperor Heizei to the throne. In 811, the year of his death, he was appointed great counselor (dainagon) and minister of war (hyobukyo).

Sakanouye no Tamuramaro "was buried in the village of Kurisu, near Kyoto and it is believed that it is his tomb which is known under the name of Shogun-zuka. Tamuramaro is the founder of the famous temple Kiyomizu-dera. He is the ancestor of the Tamura daimyo of Mutsu." Tamuramaro "was not only the first to bear the title of Sei-i-tai-Shogun, but he was also the first of the warrior statesmen of Japan."

In later ages he was revered by military men as a model commander and as the first recipient of the title shogun--the highest rank to which a warrior could aspire."

By Runoko Rashidi

mawande
09-13-2006, 03:52 AM
Which just goes to show that Jesus really did die in Aomori.

Yeah, you probably don't find that funny.

Pierrot le Fou
09-13-2006, 05:56 AM
So Japan isn't truly filled with Mongolians -- it's filled with the children of black samurais and immigrant Jews.

My God the lengths people go through to try to create a link to Japan.

羽之助
09-13-2006, 07:33 AM
I met a woman who said that Japan was populated by the descendants of the worst criminals of China who were shipped over there in prison boats to live a life of exile.

lovett003
09-13-2006, 07:48 AM
actually I've heard that Japan was populated by the aristocratic children from China who were running away from the the Khans or something like that.

All-American Alfonse
09-13-2006, 09:12 AM
Which just goes to show that Jesus really did die in Aomori.

Yeah, you probably don't find that funny.I did. (10ch)

King Kong
09-13-2006, 10:09 AM
I thought the Japanese were descendents of an alien race called the Origons.

The ancestors of the Japanese were seen as outcasts on their native planet, due to an abnormal genetic defect (10-c) which allowed them to shape shift.
They were cast off their planet, by the ruling class and then in the hope of finding a planet with the capacity to sustain their basic needs, found a black hole which transported them about 10,000 miles from Earth.


Its all documented in my book; "The alien truth about Japan" Go buy it now for $19.99 at any good bookshops.

Klilynkun
09-13-2006, 10:18 AM
I met a woman who said that Japan was populated by the descendants of the worst criminals of China who were shipped over there in prison boats to live a life of exile.

Isn't that how australia came into being?

tweek.3867
09-13-2006, 10:25 AM
I totally thought of this [ http://youtube.com/watch?v=s4t5N41qbik ] when I saw this thread.

Urban~Ninja
09-13-2006, 12:08 PM
Isn't that how australia came into being?

English and Irish criminals for Aussy-Land.

jindojim
09-13-2006, 12:57 PM
I thought Japan was created from Korean outcasts (and maybe some Chinese).

Who bred with the Origons that were living on the island now known as Japan (by pure chance, Origonian and human DNA were compatible...much like Kryptonian DNA but without the superpowers). The Korean genes gave the modern Japanese their basic appearance...and the Origonian genes gave them...whatever sets Japanese apart from the rest of Asia...(schoolgirls, panties, etc.)

Dresh
09-13-2006, 05:37 PM
I read in a book that Japanese people resulted from sexual relations between a few ancient Chinese and apes. Since it was in a book, then it must be true!

rameek
09-13-2006, 11:24 PM
Its not saying black people are the original ancestors of Japan they are speaking of the first samurai a single individual :??:

The African Presence in Early Asia (Journal of African Civilization) by Ivan Van Sertima

That also mentions this warrior but again these are quoted from one author to another author...

*Edit*
Just because its in a book doesnt mean its a fact or true...
If you look at history books in general someone writes an original text its accepted by the ruling class as fact because its to their advantage. It probably was cited shortly after and overtime it becomes generally accepted and no one has to site the text...

Pierrot le Fou
09-13-2006, 11:49 PM
The Japanese are related to Mongolians methinks. They have a blue spot on their backs as babies like Mongolians do.

mawande
09-13-2006, 11:56 PM
One article made a big deal about the fact that some Japanese in some areas of Japan average different appearances than some Japanese in other parts of Japan. It surmised that at least one group must be decended from Negros. Not that this is even vaguely impossible. It certainly could be true. I have some Mongolian back in my ancestry. In black and white photos, my paternal grandmother looks like a little Chinese grandma.

After all, we all know that every single German is tall, blond and blue eyed. Every Irish person has red hair and green eyes (freckles?). All hill-folk are heavily inbred because the girls can't outrun their brothers. All Nigerians are criminals out to get all the money they can from you. All Australians dress like Crocodile Dundee, except the ones who want to dress like the guys in "The Road Warrior." All Americans are also blond and blue-eyed (and drink coffee).

Masa the Masta
09-13-2006, 11:57 PM
Maybe they are just one big binary dotted sign or something. Lay out all Japanese on their backs on a huge field and allow the dots to form some shape, with the imperial family (emperor included) as the centerpiece.

Maybe it's a treasure map.

TS-
09-14-2006, 12:19 AM
Ainu does not = "black" as people use it today, which is what I think the original post is based on. I remember seeing some website with dark-skinned Japanese people, talking about how some great Ainu ruler in Japan was "black." I didn't bother reading the OP since it looked the same, but that's obviously retarded.

SlickWilly440
09-14-2006, 12:37 AM
Isn't that how australia came into being?

I think I heard that in on of my highschool history classes. That prisoners from Europe where sent away to an isolated place known as Austrialia to pay off there debt to society, then when the got out they were given the opportunity to start a new life on the newly discovered continent, or something like that.

ShadowDeth
09-14-2006, 02:27 AM
Afro samurai?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5275

Get these mother fucking ronin, off my mother fucking emperor!

Saitou Hajime
09-14-2006, 02:34 AM
The Black Samurai
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/248/az1xx3.jpg ?

NERD
09-14-2006, 02:34 AM
The Japanese are related to Mongolians methinks. They have a blue spot on their backs as babies like Mongolians do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_spot

I remember that my cousin had one too as an infant. I don't think it is necessarily a Mongolian thing, but perhaps it is perhaps more common amongst Mongolians as a result of gene isolation or something.

rameek
09-14-2006, 02:47 AM
Both my sons have that spot on the lower back/buttocks:duh:

Black Dog
09-14-2006, 03:04 AM
1 out of 200 people living today can trace thier ancestory back to Ghenghis Kahn.:eyepop:

Heard that in a documentry. He must if fucked a lot of women !!!

The mongols did have a thing for sleeping with the wives of thier enemies.

Black Dog
09-14-2006, 03:09 AM
I think I heard that in on of my highschool history classes. That prisoners from Europe where sent away to an isolated place known as Austrialia to pay off there debt to society, then when the got out they were given the opportunity to start a new life on the newly discovered continent, or something like that.

Some of my ancestors were sent to Austrialia.:clap:

Nannou
09-14-2006, 04:09 AM
Afro Ninja (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8908972419808415149) - an oldie but a goodie

I Like Shinny!
09-14-2006, 04:36 AM
After all, we all know that every single German is tall, blond and blue eyed. Every Irish person has red hair and green eyes (freckles?). All hill-folk are heavily inbred because the girls can't outrun their brothers. All Nigerians are criminals out to get all the money they can from you. All Australians dress like Crocodile Dundee, except the ones who want to dress like the guys in "The Road Warrior." All Americans are also blond and blue-eyed (and drink coffee).
And that mutts are just better looking than everyone else. ;) (<-- Has a huge ego.)

And people say that the Japanese are exnophobic racist.

Actaully Ainu are, surprisingly, Asian not black.

lovett003
09-14-2006, 06:35 AM
The Japanese are related to Mongolians methinks. They have a blue spot on their backs as babies like Mongolians do.

or we're related to baboons. Wasn't someone saying that japanese women have low slung butts?

King Kong
09-14-2006, 08:25 PM
The Japanese are descendents of Korea.

Ainu are Mongolian too.

The first real samurai was most probably Mongolian.