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Beowulf
08-09-2006, 02:09 AM
In case you haven't heard, their making a (shudder) Hitman movie based on the long running game series.
This movie will suck so hard that the screen may actually collapse in on itself forming a black hole. Why you ask? Because it stars Vin Diesel.
Goddammit (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465494/)
The only Vin Diesel movie I ever liked was Saving Private Ryan. And even then he was shot in the chest almost right from the get-go.
Someone tell me why they thought this man:
http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/ThePacifier/VinDiesel_PinkBike_273x400.jpg
Could play this man:
http://www.addict3d.org/img/8823f0972ba42941.jpg
Since this movie hurts me I'll copy-paste Brian Clevinger (creater of 8-bit Theater) speaking his piece on Hitman: Blood Money/The movie:
So I finally played a Hitman game. I found it a little frustrating at first, but once I got a hang of the game's version of "open ended" everything started to come together. Like magic. Like giant mechanized lions in the shape of a man. With magic or something.
Agent 47 has easily become one of my favorite characters of all time. This mostly has to do with how he's portrayed as being one mean motor scooter.
I can't stand most "bad asses" in media. You know. The characters who spend so much time and energy making sure the audience thinks they're awesome and deadly that they only manage to convincingly portray a very boring ego maniac. It's the whole Xtreme-machismo that should have died years ago.
Movies are pretty awful about shoving characters like this down our throats. Video games are just about wall-to-wall with this tripe.
Do these writers not understand that a character who actually can kill you with his thumb won't bother talking about it at length (while jet skiing at 300mph off Niagra Falls through a helicopter into the arms of a supermodel).
This is why 47 works in a way those other characters never will. He doesn't waste time trying to look bad ass. He just gets the goddamn job done.
So it's a real shame they're going to make a Hitman movie. I'm calling it now. The script will be built out of one-liners. Agent 47 will jump from one kind of vehicle, say, "car", to another, wholly different vehicle, "boat" perhaps. A jet ski will go through something else that is not in the water. There will be a love interest. In short, the movie will do what no one in the game can -- assassinate Agent 47.
Black fist
08-09-2006, 02:19 AM
I like the hitman series bit hard and a pinch creepy. (number 2 made me quit a couple of times before killing the fat bastard at the meat club.)
Myrsilus
08-09-2006, 02:23 AM
I'm putting my expectations for this movie very low. Especially with Diesel as the lead... again.
D-pad
08-09-2006, 02:24 AM
BF the meat club was in Hitman:Contracts
Beowulf
08-09-2006, 02:27 AM
The Hitman series are seriously some of my favorite games of all time. It saddens me greatly that this movie will suck so much balls.
But seriously did I miss something? Was Vin Diesel ever good in any movie ever? Who keeps hiring this musclehead retard to be in their films? Who thought this would be a good casting call?
47 looks like a perfected Xerox. Vin looks like a Xeroxed chimp.
Myrsilus
08-09-2006, 02:29 AM
I've never found him particularly stellar in any movies. He's just average in my eyes.
I can't remember what he could have done to warrant so much attention...
Black fist
08-09-2006, 02:48 AM
BF the meat club was in Hitman:Contracts
That right oops. Still creepy though, all the blood and that fat bastard. OMJ was he fat and naked.
anver
08-09-2006, 03:01 AM
It's funny that a nude fat man creeps you out more than the horribly mutilated corpse of a teenage girl hanging upside down from the ceiling. With Paul Anka playing in the background.
Anyway. I did like Diesel in Pitch Black, but he's not right for the role.
Black fist
08-09-2006, 03:06 AM
It's funny that a nude fat man creeps you out more than the horribly mutilated corpse of a teenage girl hanging upside down from the ceiling. With Paul Anka playing in the background.
Anyway. I did like Diesel in Pitch Black, but he's not right for the role.
I blocked alot things out playing that game, including giving a guy the runs then shooting him in the face point blank, then the corspe thing. Wow I seem like a pussy cause of that game, I don't like death it brings shitty memories which involved counseling, crying at night and general falling out at school.
Beowulf
08-09-2006, 03:43 AM
It's funny that a nude fat man creeps you out more than the horribly mutilated corpse of a teenage girl hanging upside down from the ceiling. With Paul Anka playing in the background.
Didn't you have to pick up her arm and carry it around with you too?
But the best part in Contracts was undoubtedly when you get the mini-gun in Asylum Aftermath. Then just bring it along every mission.
Edit:
Although the final mission in Hitman 2 was pretty awesome as well (especially since I had unlocked all the weapons). Nothing says "vengeance" like a M60 machine gun...
Black fist
08-09-2006, 03:56 AM
They do but come one someone else must look like him.
Beowulf
08-09-2006, 04:35 AM
They look alike only in the fact that they both have bald heads...
D-pad
08-09-2006, 05:18 PM
He really looks nothing like 47...
Zonehunter1
08-09-2006, 05:41 PM
The biggest question is who's the director?
Karthak
08-09-2006, 06:05 PM
The biggest question is who's the director?
If Uwe Boll is in charge of this movie it is DEFINITELY doomed to failure.
Vincent "Mikado" Logan
08-09-2006, 08:54 PM
It's funny that a nude fat man creeps you out more than the horribly mutilated corpse of a teenage girl hanging upside down from the ceiling. With Paul Anka playing in the background.
:note: Put your heeead on my shooooouldeeers (ooooh oooh-ooooooh), hold me in your arms... baaabyyy (ooooh oooh-ooooooh). :note:
Anyway... I actually thought that the guy who played "The Transporter" (Jason Statham) was a much better choice. The shape of his head is a lot more like 47's, and I'm sorry to say, 47 doesn't have a fat nose (Diesel). I mean, Statham LOOKS like 47, even when he's not playing a badass assassin (Transporter). Seriously, just take a look:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/JasonStatham.jpg
Missing this opportunity is synonymous with box office flop.
USERNAME
08-09-2006, 09:52 PM
:note: Put your heeead on my shooooouldeeers (ooooh oooh-ooooooh), hold me in your arms... baaabyyy (ooooh oooh-ooooooh). :note:
Anyway... I actually thought that the guy who played "The Transporter" (Jason Statham) was a much better choice. The shape of his head is a lot more like 47's, and I'm sorry to say, 47 doesn't have a fat nose (Diesel). I mean, Statham LOOKS like 47, even when he's not playing a badass assassin (Transporter). Seriously, just take a look:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/JasonStatham.jpg
Missing this opportunity is synonymous with box office flop.
My thoughts exactly. The only reason they didn't cast him is perhaps because the movie would then look too much like a Transporter rip-off. Even though the plots are very different, the movies would be identical in the eyes of the masses.
Vincent "Mikado" Logan
08-09-2006, 11:39 PM
Yeah, but isn't the point of the movie to FIRST get the favor of the gamers, and THEN the masses? I mean, first you wanna take care of a guaranteed audience (AKA, the guys that you KNOW will go watch the movie if it looks good), and then you wanna handle the secondhand audiences, which would be people who would say, "Oh wow, this looks okay."
Beowulf
08-10-2006, 10:45 PM
No word on a director yet but the writer was apparently Skip Woods, the same retard who wrote Swordfish...
What's wrong Io Interactives guys who wrote the entire series!?
Alphonse v.2
08-11-2006, 09:53 AM
I think Vinnie Jones could have done the part. Not so much the looks, but more of the style kinda.
Shishio
08-11-2006, 02:41 PM
I completely agree with Brian Clevinger. But really, is anyone actually surprised by this?
Vincent "Mikado" Logan
08-11-2006, 03:03 PM
I'm just waiting for Megaman with the kid from "The Sixth Sense." Then I can die a happy man.
Rogert Ebert is guaranteed to have a FUCKING FIELD DAY with this "Hitman" movie... guaranteed, no joke.
Karthak
08-13-2006, 02:48 PM
They should have chosen David Bateson. He is an experienced actor, he is the voice actor for 47 and 47`s appearance was modeled on his face.
Jetsetlemming
08-13-2006, 04:55 PM
This guy? http://www.londontoast.dk/Content/VivsHygge/Resources/actorsportraitsd.jpeg
O_o Maybe, a little bit, in the shape of the top of his head...
Beowulf
08-15-2006, 11:50 AM
O_o Maybe, a little bit, in the shape of the top of his head...
He looks the part to me, and lord knows he's a better actor then Diesel (what with a rock being a better actor then Vin).
Beowulf
12-02-2006, 02:14 PM
I'm going to re-open this because my buddy just alerted me to something about this film:
Skip Woods has written the screenplay. Skip Woods also wrote the screenplay to Project: Swordfish, the incredibly shitty John Trevolta movie.
I cry now.
Jetsetlemming
12-02-2006, 03:22 PM
I cry as well. ;_;
I just got Hitman: Contracts. I like the directing of the cutscenes and everything, though I'm not liking the level layouts as much as Silent Assassin. >_>
Beowulf
12-04-2006, 10:20 AM
You should get Blood Money, the options for assassination are staggering...
Jetsetlemming
12-29-2006, 07:42 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30879#Scene_1
Timothy Olyphant has been cast in replacement of Vin Deisel. Yay.
Hatsumomo
01-05-2007, 04:16 AM
I have Hitman 2: Blood Contracts and it's fucking hard!
And they really need to stop with the video game movies. If they refuse to do it right, they shouldn't do it at all.
sgt. pepper
01-06-2007, 05:07 AM
NOOOOOOO, what kind of a fucked up world could allow this to happen? :bang:
Beowulf
01-06-2007, 10:48 AM
The one that allows Uwe Boll.
Jetsetlemming
01-06-2007, 11:51 AM
I just played through and beat Hitman: Contracts (I have no idea if this is the same Hatsumom has, they went through like 3 different games in that title :knockout:), that was indeed hard, but worth it. It felt quite good to get Silent Assassin while persueing a vastly more violent means to better a level than the predefined ways (Like in the Seafood Massacre, when instead of messing with the restuarant gas, or poison, I just got into the restuarant's second floor, met up with the two targets dressed as the nagotiator, and emptied a couple clips of silverballer ammo into them. =D 10 shots, 1 alarm, still counted as Silent Assassin.)
I got silent assassin while playing violent on the last level, too. Snuck into the alley behind the target, put a silenced bullet in his head, then turn and ran towards the exit before the guards could react to me.
Nannou
01-06-2007, 12:58 PM
IMO
Hitman 1 was a classic, i'll never forget the Lee Hong Assasination level
Hitman 2 was weak with shitty controls
Contracts was an improvement, but still worse than the original
Blood Money was brilliant, especially that awesome part at the end (those who have finished the game will know what I'm on about). Ahh retribution is sweet.
sgt. pepper
01-06-2007, 04:13 PM
I agree, although i think Contracts was worse than Hitman 2.
My favourite mission in all of the Hitman games is Tools of the trade, the bath house (from the first game, the one in Contracts weren't as good). It' so big and full of possibilities, and it's fun to explore rooms when you've got the cleaner-key. All the civilians on the level really made it come alive, too.
Jetsetlemming
01-06-2007, 04:29 PM
I liked Hitman 2 the best out of the first three. Haven't gotten a chance to play Blood Money, yet.
Traditions of the Trade was indeed an awesome level. That's interesting though, Nannou, that you say that Hitman 2 had bad controls when compared to Hitman 1's. >_>;
Hitman: Contracts is better after you've beaten it once, and you can go back and play through whatever level you want with whatever weapons. It's much more enjoyable that way. Hitman 2 was better going through the first time because of how all it's stuff was tied together, especially the Russian missions. :D
Hatsumomo
01-06-2007, 08:17 PM
I like the music in the Hitman games. Odd to say, but there it is. I downloaded one of them off of iTunes.
Beowulf
01-07-2007, 11:05 AM
Hitman 1 kinda sucked when compared to it's successors. Yes the story was better but the gameplay sucked (it was actually artificially harder due to it's crappy controls), the graphics were bad (even for those times), and the AI was either gifted with ESP or retarded. I thought Hitman 2 was funner then hell. I actually collected all the weapons in the tool shed, then in the last mission I got to pick from the litter and let it rip. Going through a church blazing away with an M60 as ragdoll physics threw guys across pews and over railings was memorable and amazing. Contracts was good, all gameplay and no story. Beldingford Manor remains to be one of my favorite missions of all time. It wouldn't net you a SA rating but dropping the gasoline tank down the chimney to blow up the target was both hilarious and awesome. My favorite of all time goes to You Better Watch Out... in Blood Money (easily the best Hitman game). I loved it so much that I actually took the time to get Silent Assassin killing only with the Snub-Nosed Revolver.
Black fist
01-07-2007, 08:31 PM
Can't remember which one had the meat rave but for me that was the best one especially when I got to kill that fat bastard.
Jetsetlemming
01-07-2007, 09:04 PM
Hitman 1 kinda sucked when compared to it's successors. Yes the story was better but the gameplay sucked (it was actually artificially harder due to it's crappy controls), the graphics were bad (even for those times), and the AI was either gifted with ESP or retarded. I thought Hitman 2 was funner then hell. I actually collected all the weapons in the tool shed, then in the last mission I got to pick from the litter and let it rip. Going through a church blazing away with an M60 as ragdoll physics threw guys across pews and over railings was memorable and amazing. Contracts was good, all gameplay and no story. Beldingford Manor remains to be one of my favorite missions of all time. It wouldn't net you a SA rating but dropping the gasoline tank down the chimney to blow up the target was both hilarious and awesome. My favorite of all time goes to You Better Watch Out... in Blood Money (easily the best Hitman game). I loved it so much that I actually took the time to get Silent Assassin killing only with the Snub-Nosed Revolver.
Agreed, except for the Blood Money stuff which I haven't played yet. >_>;
Hitman 1 was worth playing at least, for levels like Traditions of the Trade and the finale in the asylum. :D 47 vs. a SWAT team. Hehehe.
What was the level in Hitman 2 where you invade a skyscraper in India, kill a geek in the basement, then go up to the penthouse and kill his brother in a hottub full of armed women in bikinis? That was certainly memorable for me. :P
Beowulf
06-28-2007, 09:55 AM
I am hereby resurrecting this thread from the grave with this news:
The trailer has been released... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=46V-6rZt_tk)
All our fears are now confirmed. Olyphant makes for an awkward and childish 47. He is far too young for the part and looks like a teenager cosplaying as 47. The story has him fighting evil "for us all." It has been confirmed that there is a love story. These and so many other horrors. The guns Olyphant is holding don't even look like 47's trademark Hardballers (which are, for the record, fantastic firearms).
Karthak
06-29-2007, 06:44 AM
I am hereby resurrecting this thread from the grave with this news:
The trailer has been released... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=46V-6rZt_tk)
All our fears are now confirmed. Olyphant makes for an awkward and childish 47. He is far too young for the part and looks like a teenager cosplaying as 47. The story has him fighting evil "for us all." It has been confirmed that there is a love story. These and so many other horrors. The guns Olyphant is holding don't even look like 47's trademark Hardballers (which are, for the record, fantastic firearms).
There is a love story?...........................
I'm gonnna avoid this movie like the muthafucking plague.:bang:
Plekto
06-29-2007, 05:31 PM
Ag. The real problem is giong to be the second he opens his dumb mouth. 47 is nothing if not brilliant. Quick, smart, and as close to a human Terminator as it gets. Van Diesel is... none of that.
The latest game really fleshes out his character and gives him a real personal side for once. And it's nothing like Van Diesel. For one, while 47 can probably tell you how to reprogram a Chinese missile system over the phone, he says maybe 5-10 words on most missions. Van Diesel can't keep his mouth shut for ten seconds.
EDIT:
I just saw the trailer. OMG???? He's ten years too young. And there's no grit. No bad. He's now a hunter of bad guys.(as opposed to the opening of Blood Money where you feel sorry for the poor guy but a contract is a contract, be it the local priest or the mob boss.) I mean, seriously. In real life, if a 8 year old child saw him off someone... he'd walk up without saying a word and complete the mission. No witnesses. Ever.
The best mission in any of the games, IMO, was the one where you had to kill the Yakuza boss. It was beautiful in its simplicity and options to get the job done. The two best kills, though, were in Blood Money. The hot tub and the grill.(if you played the game, you KNOW the two I'm talking about). Awesome. :) The best impersonation was also in Blood Money where you dressed up as the psychologist and had to listen to their problems. Both of them. Lol.
Back to the movie trailer:
It's like Hitman took a wrong turn and got all matrix-ized. (holds his copy of Hitman 2 and cries softly)
EDIT 2:
If the director ever PLAYED the games, he'd know that a total and utter lack of love and connection to humanity(being genetically created he even questions whether he has a proper soul) is a major thread in the game. He talks for at least an hour in cutscenes in the first three games to the priest, in fact, about all of this. It makes for a very good story.
What we're getting looks like Hitman and the Matrix and Bourne Supremacy all got mushed into a grinder and came out with al the worst parts in the mix.
Jetsetlemming
06-29-2007, 08:18 PM
I am hereby resurrecting this thread from the grave with this news:
The trailer has been released... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=46V-6rZt_tk)
All our fears are now confirmed. Olyphant makes for an awkward and childish 47. He is far too young for the part and looks like a teenager cosplaying as 47. The story has him fighting evil "for us all." It has been confirmed that there is a love story. These and so many other horrors. The guns Olyphant is holding don't even look like 47's trademark Hardballers (which are, for the record, fantastic firearms).
baby faced 47, made-for-tv movie looking explosions, 47 feeling up some chick's leg, and a claim that he's a divine hero fighting for us all? WTF, have the people who made this ever even played the goddamn games? >_>; He's asexual and amoral, and kills people for money, not justice (mostly). Most of the time he doesn't pick his targets, the Agency does.
The only things that trailer got right was that he was genetically engineered and he's bald. :gloomy:
haterllnation
06-29-2007, 09:03 PM
Jason Statham should have taken this role. I stated this back in the "Movies out of Games" thread (and apparently someone else made that connection in here as well). I don't care if it "looks" similar to the Transporter. The fact of the matter is, that guy had the look, the feel, of the main character of this game. This guy looks too young. Now, this movie may come out good; we can only go by trailer at the moment, so I am.
It's odd, because when I first saw the dude in the trailer, I thought of the movie Powder.
Plekto
06-29-2007, 10:52 PM
Another choice would be the guy who played in "The Professional". Yes, there would be a slight accent to deal with, but shaved bald... I can see it.
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1800022061&cf=gen
Contacts and a bald head. He's also about the right age as well.
Jetsetlemming
06-29-2007, 11:13 PM
Jean Reno, are you fucking kidding? He doesn't look a thing like 47. That guy has his own, unique look, and it's a different one from 47's sharply angular, emotionless expression.
Druid
06-30-2007, 10:02 AM
The only good thing about that trailer was Ave Maria.
Beowulf
06-30-2007, 12:35 PM
The only good thing about that trailer was Ave Maria.
QFT
Jean Reno, are you fucking kidding? He doesn't look a thing like 47. That guy has his own, unique look, and it's a different one from 47's sharply angular, emotionless expression.
I don't know, Reno's a pretty versatile actor. Smooth out some of his crags and I think he'd be 1000x better then Tim "Cosplay" Olyphant.
Why god why couldn't we just use David Bateson. You know, the guy who is 47 (face, voice and all, literally).
Save us David! (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0061055/)
Druid
06-30-2007, 12:43 PM
That'd be awesome beyond words if they could have the voice play as the man. It'd be brilliant.
Plekto
06-30-2007, 02:11 PM
I was going to suggerst that as well, but no director would be THAT logical.
My idea was to smooth out Jean Reno's face a bit and have him as 47 five to ten years after Contracts. He's older. He's getting burnt out. But there's still one last job to do to fiish off his past...
The opening of course would be about how he's been this ghost for twenty years. The one person who can kill any target, any place. (show bits of him blending into crowds in seconds, brief shots of him in the shadows behind an obvious victim...) Nothing protects you. There's no place to hide. And there are no witnesses.
Dark. Grim. And a beautiful ending where everyone dies. God it would have been cool.
No.. we get this filth that sucks the cool factor out of one of the best and most memorable characters EVER in any video game. What's next? A live action Final Fantasy movie with Wil Wheaton playing Cloud? I mean there's bad and then there's image-destroying.
Who will want top even play the next Hitman game when he's been turned into this?
Saitou Hajime
06-30-2007, 03:18 PM
Well, Timothy Olyphant can be cold and ruthless as seen in Live Free or Die Hard, but it wasn't a physical ruthlessness as he was a cyber terrorist, and who knows if 47 is even supposed to be like that in this film.
Beowulf
07-01-2007, 02:05 AM
Well, Timothy Olyphant can be cold and ruthless as seen in Live Free or Die Hard, but it wasn't a physical ruthlessness as he was a cyber terrorist, and who knows if 47 is even supposed to be like that in this film.
It doesn't matter nearly as much how well he can act. He simply can't portray the quiet physical menace that 47 exudes. Sure he can act as menacing as he wants but when it just looks like you could push him down and take his lunchmoney, that image just ain't gonna fly.
Kusoyaro
07-01-2007, 03:29 AM
i really hope this movie doesn't end up seeming like another bourne
Plekto
07-02-2007, 04:08 AM
It doesn't matter nearly as much how well he can act. He simply can't portray the quiet physical menace that 47 exudes. Sure he can act as menacing as he wants but when it just looks like you could push him down and take his lunchmoney, that image just ain't gonna fly.
Exactly. The *real* 47 would look at you and you'd give him YOUR lunchmoney.
The director seriously needs to play the games. Especially Blood Money.
AssButt.
07-02-2007, 05:53 AM
Who gives a shit if he doesn't look exactly like Agent 47? I'm happy they chose someone who can act well rather than someone who bears a small to resemblance him. Why is it people are so quick to denounce a 90-minute film that isn't even finished yet after seeing a minute long trailer with about 5 shots of the titular character? Have you read the script? Don't think that because you played the games it gives you an automatic license to talk shit about any movie adaptation. Do you really think the producers took one look at the box art and said "Okay, let's make that movie." They have writing consultants whose job it is to make sure the movie's as like the games as possible.
Beowulf
07-02-2007, 01:59 PM
Who gives a shit if he doesn't look exactly like Agent 47? I'm happy they chose someone who can act well rather than someone who bears a small to resemblance him. Why is it people are so quick to denounce a 90-minute film that isn't even finished yet after seeing a minute long trailer with about 5 shots of the titular character?
I'm sorry but what about this movie hasn't led me to believe it will suck? The trailer alone does prove that because its confusing, boring, and insipid. The trailer is supposed to make me want to see a movie remember?
As for him not looking like 47, you wouldn't choose Ah-nold to play Albert Einstein...
Have you read the script? Don't think that because you played the games it gives you an automatic license to talk shit about any movie adaptation. Do you really think the producers took one look at the box art and said "Okay, let's make that movie."
The lines "love story" escaped the script thus discrediting anything else in it. And yes it does give me license to mock them. Over the years I have put a lot of money into this franchis. I decided to spend my hard earned dollars on these games over many many other choices. Yet the way Hollywood responds to my loyal fandom is by insulting it with what is shaping up to be a retarded script by Skip "Swordfish" Woods. Honestly did you see that movie? It was fucking retarded.
They have writing consultants whose job it is to make sure the movie's as like the games as possible.
No they don't. They have writing consultants who frantically try to draw any possible connections between the script they already have, and the game they don't understand so that they can attempt to market it to poor bastards like myself who have always loved the series.
AssButt.
07-02-2007, 09:09 PM
You're certainly entitled to say it looks bad, but saying that it will be bad based on the fact that it will have a love story is fairly ridiculous. Things that work in games don't always work in movies, because the focus of a game is the gameplay. If Agent 47 walked around killing people in cold blood throughout the whole movie, without displaying any emotions whatsoever, it might make a few cool action scenes but would ultimately devoid him of any character development. A movie cannot be good without some internal conflict of the protagonist, and if he doesn't have emotions, that can't happen. I understand it's part of his appeal, being a cold-blooded killer, and I don't expect them to completely change that aspect of him, but not having emotional conflict at all makes him worse than the fucking Terminator. Having a love story doesn't mean he'll fall in love with some random girl, bang her once, settle down and get married. It's just an aspect of the story designed to keep it from being a generic action movie with a one-dimensional protagonist.
And no, I've not seen Swordfish.
Jetsetlemming
07-02-2007, 09:21 PM
You're certainly entitled to say it looks bad, but saying that it will be bad based on the fact that it will have a love story is fairly ridiculous. Things that work in games don't always work in movies, because the focus of a game is the gameplay. If Agent 47 walked around killing people in cold blood throughout the whole movie, without displaying any emotions whatsoever, it might make a few cool action scenes but would ultimately devoid him of any character development. A movie cannot be good without some internal conflict of the protagonist, and if he doesn't have emotions, that can't happen. I understand it's part of his appeal, being a cold-blooded killer, and I don't expect them to completely change that aspect of him, but not having emotional conflict at all makes him worse than the fucking Terminator. Having a love story doesn't mean he'll fall in love with some random girl, bang her once, settle down and get married. It's just an aspect of the story designed to keep it from being a generic action movie with a one-dimensional protagonist.
And no, I've not seen Swordfish.
47 has plenty of internal conflict without any need of a "love story": His humanity. If you've played Hitman 2, he joins a church and lives as a grounds keeper for a monestary in Italy in an attempt to be more of a "person" and identify with the rest of humanity. His artificial nature is something that haunts him, as well as the fact that his life purpose is to kill people. There's plenty of opportunity for conflict and emotion and development for 47. A love story is NOT something that fits with him. Hitman 2, 3, and 4 all managed to have intelligent, well-made stories and character development of 47, especially along the course of the series as a whole, without any need of love stories or cheap Hollywood plotlines. He shows mercy towards characters that threaten his secrecy and missions, such as Agent Smith and the Asian prostitute girl from 1-3 (can't remember her name >_>). He keeps a pet bird. He shows true trust and friendship to Diane until she betrays him, and when she does he shows true anger and hatred for the first time, swearing the one and only time in the series, calling her a bitch as he falls after she stabs him with a needle. You can even make him square dance in blood money. :P There's plenty of character to 47.
Plekto
07-02-2007, 11:09 PM
If Agent 47 walked around killing people in cold blood throughout the whole movie, without displaying any emotions whatsoever, it might make a few cool action scenes but would ultimately devoid him of any character development.
****
They did the same sort of character with "The Professional" and it was beautiful. A consummate and cold-blooded killer. Who begins to develop a conscience. 47 is very much the same. I suspect in the end he will end up trusting Diane again, but probably two games from now.
Another game that has a complex character like this was Mafia. You get to see the issues that the character deals with over time as he goes from a honest cab driver to near the top of a crime syndicate. And it has a great ending as well. Hitman has fantastic writing.
The movie version is shallow, too young, WAY too emotional, and basically a rip off of every lame ex CIA agent now hunted by them movie made. What - its going to be better than any of the Bourne series? I think not.
Oh - Hitman, the original game, isn't half bad, either. But the favorite of the series for me is Contracts, because it has a very broad group of missions from all over the globe. Blood Money seemed to be too focused on U.S. contracts instead of around the world.
Zugzwang
07-02-2007, 11:53 PM
Seriously: Timothy Olyphant played that bloke from The Girl Next Door. I have a very hard time trying to image him being ruthless, and menacing. You know, physically. lol.
Give him a beard and some hair and he looks a little ruthless. But he just looks like a bald cupcake there.
Jetsetlemming
07-02-2007, 11:59 PM
Oh - Hitman, the original game, isn't half bad, either. But the favorite of the series for me is Contracts, because it has a very broad group of missions from all over the globe. Blood Money seemed to be too focused on U.S. contracts instead of around the world.
That was the point of the game. Hitman Blood Money marks the first time in the series it's ever had any levels set in America (and not even all of the levels are, it starts in France then goes to South America :P). The vast majority of the series has been in western europe, with brief excursions to Asia (china, japan, and india), and the middle-east.
AssButt.
07-03-2007, 05:41 AM
The movie version is shallow, too young, WAY too emotional, and basically a rip off of every lame ex CIA agent now hunted by them movie made. What - its going to be better than any of the Bourne series? I think not.
I've watched the trailer two or three times and I'm afraid I don't see much basis for your assumptions of the movie version of Agent 47. Too young? Timothy Olyphant is a only 4 years younger than Agent 47, and doesn't look much younger. (http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/72/80/00/10f.jpg) The story is probably a bit cliched, but where do you get this idea that he's going to completely give in to his newfound "emotions"? You stated he struggles with his identity in the games numerous times, why is it a mortal sin that a beautiful woman serves as the same catalyst? Genetically engineered as he is, he's still human. Consequently, how does having a love story make him shallow? In fact, it's quite the opposite. As I said, it allows the possibility of character development that wouldn't be there if his emotional solidarity was played up.
Jetsetlemming
07-03-2007, 06:21 AM
No, he's never once shown any sexual interest in the entirety of the series, and he's been in highly sexual situations in the course of missions before. In 1 and 3, a girl kisses him in thanks for rescuing her for information on a target, and he shudders with disgust when she does, and stares after her with confusion. It's implied that he was engineered to be asexual, as a sexual appetite would be a distraction for the world's best hitman, not to mention him breeding would ruin his creators' monopoly on him.
And love/sex tends to be shallow as hell in your average Hollywood movie. :|
Jetsetlemming
07-03-2007, 06:30 AM
Also:
Agent 47:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6088/47at7.jpg
Olyphant as 47:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3056/olyphantwz4.jpg
Notice the head shape and line difference. Olyphant is considerably rounder and softer than 47, with a baby face look. If he's 47, he's a teenaged 47 who just escaped from his creator's lab to start his work as an assassin.
Black fist
07-07-2007, 08:00 PM
i finally picked up the latest hitman and all I can say is fuck it. The game is beyond dark.there is cool,works really well with the game type darkness a la chronicle of riddic escape from prisoner bay or Alien versus predator 2. This game dark is to the point where you have to wing it and hope you run through a door.
Is there someway to fix this or should this game be sent on it way back to gamefly?
Beowulf
07-07-2007, 08:14 PM
i finally picked up the latest hitman and all I can say is fuck it. The game is beyond dark.there is cool,works really well with the game type darkness a la chronicle of riddic escape from prisoner bay or Alien versus predator 2. This game dark is to the point where you have to wing it and hope you run through a door.
Is there someway to fix this or should this game be sent on it way back to gamefly?
Seriously?
There's just something wrong with your tv...
Black fist
07-07-2007, 08:18 PM
that might be, but this is the first game I had trouble with the darkness. Even the old hitman games were raping me in the darkness.
Jetsetlemming
11-27-2007, 09:45 AM
Just watched it.
I'm weeping right now. 47 was totally raped, reduced to nothing but "Bald guy who shoots things", but I was expecting that.
The whole love thing was a major plotline of the movie (and really, the only one that made the remotest sense) was worthless, but alright. She was a Mei Ling type character.
I was also expecting it to be a dumb action movie, but what I wasn't expecting was it to be the worst dumb action movie ever made. Shitty, bland action, stupid behavior, scenes that just make you groan out loud that look like they were cut from a SNL skit, and the very worst editing I've ever seen. I did a better job on a student film project I made when I was a high school sophomore.
Beowulf
11-27-2007, 08:35 PM
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Chuckles
11-27-2007, 09:08 PM
47 "loved" his pet bird at one time (more than he loved most anything else, that is).
Then he killed it because he thought that it was going to blow his cover.
I sort of liked the movie. I guess that's mostly because I only ever played Contracts and didn't get too into the series. But eh, it was good enough for me.
l337moomoo
12-04-2007, 12:49 AM
Haha, I saw the movie the day it came out (luckily a friend who worked there got us in.) The intro seemed promising, I was really looking forward to this movie too because I felt it had some hope.
In the first line of dialogue me and my friends were cracking up. God that movie was a piece of shit.
Oh yeah, and we went to the screening of juno, but the thearte was full and our other friends didn't believe how shitty we made out to be, so we snuck in and saw it and they were baffled. We left after the titties scene, just to be classy.
Vihis
12-07-2007, 03:46 PM
IF David Bateson had played 47, the movie just might have been the best video game based movie ever made. But no, companies just suck at casting and f%&# things up. (I've not seen the movie itself, but viewing the trailer clearly indicates that it isn't that good. On top of that, the reviews of other people sum it up for me). I am also a big fan of the series and have all the games. Absolutely love them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoTzKbQ1jVU
Kind of portrays the quality of his acting and how it would reflect through the character of agent 47.
Kill me now. :bang:
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