Good God That Stings

[Urban~Ninja]

Well i was in Assembly the past few weeks every Monday and i noticed when students:
A) Fell Asleep
B) Wouldnt Shut Up
C) Did Something Stupid

A teacher (Usually a PE or Science) would come over and hit them across the back of the head, not softly either it looks and sounded like it stang like a MoFo.

I was told by a Canadian Teacher who teaches in the Com Lab that when 3 students snuck into a locked Music Room they were pretty much punched in the side of the face.

Other punishments include being locked in a small room called the Dungeon for every school day for 1 week and studying by yourself with other baddass's while the guard guy stands watch.

Just to spark my curiosity, its this a common occurance in most schools for the teachers to be pretty hard hitting?

[haterllnation]

Not now....but back in 2nd grade I think I got in trouble. I got it first, handed to me by my teacher. Then, I was sent to principal and got it handed to me again. She stated my lesson was not learned and my mom handed it to me. My mom apologized after she found out that the reason was I said "I am
GONNA go to the store" instead of "I want to go to the store". I like how the lack of communication got me owned three times and only until after did anyone ask "What exactly happened?" MEH!

I cannot say I got punched in the face, stabbed, or suplexed by a teacher, though. The dungeon thing is detention, no?

[4letterwords]

Hey you're from Indianapolis! I'm about a half an hour south east of you. You're automatically cool.

[haterllnation]

Ah yes, status! Yeh, I was born in San Diego but I have lived here most of my life. Half hour east eh? Where abouts? So it's you, Druid, and myself so far. Cool.

/hijack

[japanat]

In Japan, this is unfortunately very common. Thwacking a kid on the head who isn't listening or is making noise during lessons is still quite common. Kind of like my mother's Catholic school. It's not intended to be painful so much as an attention getter. I honestly don't have a problem about it if that's all it is, a 1- or 2-finger rap to get their attention. I can't imagine teaching a class of 40 11-yr olds, the frustrations that entails - My kids tell me all the time about teachers in their schools going postal (of course, not about anything they have done...).:innocent: But when it goes beyond that, to slaps, kicks, knock-downs, verbal abuse like you'd hear on a loading dock, my horns would come out.

My kids' teachers have all been caring, hard-working folks whom I have liked and respected (except for ONE). To keep it fair, I have to say that the crazy kind of teacher like in the following cases is truly in the minority.

Here are some admittedly extreme cases, and over the last 10yrs, they've been making an effort to weed out the sadists and stop the corporal punishment, but kids still get hurt all the time. About 10yrs ago, a teacher slammed the school-grounds gate on the head of a student arriving late, who then died. The year after, a teacher took a disruptive girl out of class into the hallway. When she continued to sass him, he punched her in the side of the head, she struck her head on the concrete support beam, and died of a fractured skull.

[Druid]

Ah yes, status! Yeh, I was born in San Diego but I have lived here most of my life. Half hour east eh? Where abouts? So it's you, Druid, and myself so far. Cool.

/hijack
The connections never stop.
XD
Guess where i'm stayin, byo.

[Fred]

I remember hearing about the girl who got her head slammed in the gate. I understood it to be a tragic accident rather than some diliberate attempt to punish her or complete indiference to her safety. Did anyone hear differently? At about that same time, there were a couple of students who got locked in a shed in the middle of summer for smoking. They died of heat stroke.

[羽之助]

Read, and decide for yourself.

http://www.aarrgghh.com/no_way/japSchl.htm

We discussed this a while ago, actually: http://www.outpostnine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3667&page=3

[Urban~Ninja]

Read, and decide for yourself.

http://www.aarrgghh.com/no_way/japSchl.htm

We discussed this a while ago, actually: http://www.outpostnine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3667&page=3

Well i dont think my schools that bad, but damn thats scary shit.

The Dungeon at my school from what im told is just one of the oldest classrooms on the furthest edge of the school, it still has AC and they are allowed to leave for Lunch and leave on time when school ends.

That girl who got crushed by the gate....thats just horrofic as was the 2 children dying of heat stroke.

[haterllnation]

Battle Royale. Let the games begin!!!

[Daishikaze]

the dates of the articles are from 1990 and 1991, and didn't Az say there really isn't any disciplinary actions in schools? or did I misread that?

[japanat]

The Dungeon at my school... ...has AC...

Your school has A/C? Only 1 of the schools in my town has A/C, and that's because it's right under the shinkansen tracks. You can't hear jack when a train is going by (every 5 minutes)

[I Like Shinny!]

the dates of the articles are from 1990 and 1991, and didn't Az say there really isn't any disciplinary actions in schools? or did I misread that?
Yeah he did say that when he wrote about the bastard kids in his class. I guess somebody must have put their foot down on cruel punishment in schools. Come to think of it that's even wrost then the disciplin that my mother got in the US during the 70's. They'd gives you a spinking then tell your perents and they'd give beating. Note how I say beating in bold litters.

[japanat]

The institutionalized punishment has been cut way down, that's true. But unofficial punishment, that continues. Depending on your town, an 'unofficial' punishment that ended up needing medical care could meet with total silence from school officials, a deep bow with crocodile tears, or a teacher getting his ass fired and prosecuted. Thank God my town goes the latter route.

But as Az said, the individual teacher can't do a hell of a lot: can't kick a student out of class, can't send them to the office, can't do anything proactive. They can only go to the next teacher's meeting, and ask other teachers to 'watch this child', which amounts to nothing. But if a kid gets a part-time job, well then they'll get a one-week suspension.

[Riinuka]

"But the way the door was shut could be too rough. I think it can't be helped but to rethink our guidance to latecomers."

...Yes, the shutting of the door -could-, COULD be too rough.

Don't you just love the ambiguity?

The disciplinary systems in Japan are certainly more rigorous than in the U.S., but cases like this are not unheard of here, too. I should search up some.

[羽之助]

One kid who acts up in class got tossed out by his teacher yesterday. I congratulated him on it.

[I Like Shinny!]

One kid who acts up in class got tossed out by his teacher yesterday. I congratulated him on it.
Little bastards like that should get their asses kick. :clap:

[羽之助]

There was one time where I think that happened, actually. New teacher, kids in control, especially one who basically wasted everyone's time until I finally yelled at him to say a fucking season.

Out after lunch, I noticed him crying on the steps. Fell, or pushed? And is it a result or cause of his upstart behaviour?

[gentlemanandscholar]

How exactly do you yell at them? Yakuza style, or tokyo-ben?

[羽之助]

You mean my incredibly gay high pitched Tokyo Standard (retch)? No, that's to charm the ladies. I pull the angry father approach.

[Druid]

You need to have the voice og god, kinda like me. People get surprised when I yell. Pretty much very quiet when i'm around people.