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novacane
05-06-2006, 01:55 AM
When you are in public and something unfortunate happens to you, do you just drop the F bomb or cuss out real loud, assuming that the Japanese around you dont understand at all? I remember being in a train and I dropped something on my foot and I was about to shout the F word real loud when I saw a gaijin family not too far away :/. I'm not too sure if most Japanese people even understand english cuss words.

kilreli
05-06-2006, 01:57 AM
they dont understand so much. the highschoolers might know the F bomb. but ill be listening to the radio with my host grandmother and eminem comes on, and everythings fine. she doesnt notice. though...she doesnt know much english. also, ive seen f bombs on shirts and no ones noticed

bakagaijin
05-06-2006, 02:00 AM
They will understand fuck for sure. But fuck can be used in so many contexts, they won't get the meaning.

Frankey-eh
05-06-2006, 02:14 AM
bg's right.
not only high schoolers, but even middle schoolers know the F word. well, it depends on gender. guys talk about this, but not so much among girls... among "good" girls at least >.>

even my cousins know about these cuss words! they watch foreign movies more than me ^^;

KojiroTakenashi
05-06-2006, 04:12 AM
Motherfucking Puppets.

Kamakiri
05-06-2006, 04:40 AM
i used to do that all the time. sometimes i would be freaking out about something i saw (like the prize for winning a game at a shrine festival was girls underwear) and my other friends would say "don't you think they can understand you?" i said even if they did know some english i didn't think for a second they could keep up with how quickly i spoke. many americans tell me i speak too fast for them, so i didn't think the Japanese could even understand me.

i used to hear rap at the dollar store by my apt sometimes and it was all i could do to not burst out laughing when i heard about popping caps in asses while i was shopping.

Destiny
05-06-2006, 04:46 AM
:clap: that is the good part of knowing many languages, I usually swear in English when I am home in Bulgaria, and in any Slavic one (Bulgarian, Serbian, Russian), when I am here. The possibility of somebody understanding is like 1 in a million. Except if I go to Hokkaido I guess.

Niff
05-06-2006, 05:09 AM
I swear like a sailor in english in any country I go to, so I really don't give a flying fuck if Japanese people can understand me or not.

bakagaijin
05-06-2006, 05:43 AM
i used to do that all the time. sometimes i would be freaking out about something i saw (like the prize for winning a game at a shrine festival was girls underwear) and my other friends would say "don't you think they can understand you?" i said even if they did know some english i didn't think for a second they could keep up with how quickly i spoke. many americans tell me i speak too fast for them, so i didn't think the Japanese could even understand me.

i used to hear rap at the dollar store by my apt sometimes and it was all i could do to not burst out laughing when i heard about popping caps in asses while i was shopping.


That's the thing. You can be speaking really quickly, using only slang, and the only word they will pick up is fuck. Almost all believe fuck has either a negative or sexual connotation at all times, which of course it doesn't.

gyoza
05-06-2006, 05:52 AM
I'm pretty sure most Japanese students will know it. When you're a student and you just meet someone who speaks a different language the first thing you ask them for is for cool swears you can do in that language. I went through that stage :P

Niff
05-06-2006, 05:57 AM
I'm pretty sure most Japanese students will know it. When you're a student and you just meet someone who speaks a different language the first thing you ask them for is for cool swears you can do in that language. I went through that stage :P

I think I'm the only one that didn't do that, while my friends were yelling "chikishou!" randomly for a week. I think they got over it, though.

Pierrot le Fou
05-06-2006, 06:08 AM
There is no huge taboo on words, generally speaking, in Japan. You can say 'fuck' all you want, and 98% of people probably won't give a shit. There are very few words that are no-nos, and even those 'no-nos' are said on TV sometimes (with one letter blanked out). The only one I know of is 'ma_ko' of which they always blank out that middle 'n' as if we didn't know what it was anyway. And they still say it from time to time on TV, so it's not like 'fuck' in the US.

Yang
05-06-2006, 06:40 AM
^ I usually swear in english believe it or not.....here nobody will look you annoyed...even if you use it against other ppl...they won't do anything about it.... beside i don't like the spanish swear words, i don't know why...never been seduced to use them i guess.....

i should use some swear french word but i think they're powerless....so the F is ok, it has enough power for me to express myself when im pissed bout sumthing ...and bla!

i guess in english speaker countries it can be offensive....but here is totally "legal" to say it since no much ppl know its meaning.....just the young HS students know about it, mainly because of english movies and MTV lol....

BigJDiesel20
05-06-2006, 07:02 AM
I'm pretty sure most Japanese students will know it. When you're a student and you just meet someone who speaks a different language the first thing you ask them for is for cool swears you can do in that language. I went through that stage :P

Yea that’s right. Before I started taking Spanish back in Jr. High School I all ready knew what Bendeho, puta, puto meant. Everyone especially knew what puta was because we use it a hell of a lot in the middle of class. Only a few of our teachers knew what the meaning was. Thanks Oscar :wave: ..... :joytear:

shadow
05-06-2006, 07:09 AM
Yea that’s right. Before I started taking Spanish back in Jr. High School I all ready knew what Bendeho, puta, puto meant. Everyone especially knew what puta was because we use it a hell of a lot in the middle of class. Only a few of our teachers knew what the meaning was. Thanks Oscar :wave: ..... :joytear:

It's "pendejo". Evidently, you still don't know the word, even now...

Yang
05-06-2006, 07:29 AM
lol.. the swear words between south american countries are differents...

so somes like "puta" "puto" or even "pendejo" are the "sweetest" ones... and they're not usual here....

there are a lot more, more powerful in this country....

mawande
05-06-2006, 07:37 AM
My friend and I were on the train, and she was talking about some show she'd seen in Japan recently wherein the student had to say a phrase in English, and the Japanese teacher railed on her for her pronounciation. The trouble was, the teacher had it backwards, the student had done the 'r' and 'l' sounds correctly. My friend was happily going on using ye old "f" word and that famous "c" word to describe the teacher, when I pointed out to her that the woman sitting next to us understood everything she'd said. This brought my friend to an abrupt and startled halt.

The woman sitting next to us happened to be reading a piece of paper written in high level English, but what had caught my attention was her little twitch every time my friend swore.

The rest of that particular train ride was carried out in friendly chatter with this woman, who is a Tokyo English teacher of Japanese birth and raising.

Though I think she was more amused when my friend was freely swearing up a storm.

paideuo
05-06-2006, 07:39 AM
To reinforce the point that some have made, this image:

http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/very-fucking-engrish-lesson.jpg

I don't know whether this is real or not. It may very well be real, though. Even if it isn't I think it still demonstrates the attitude the Japanese have concerning the F word - or at very least their ignorance of its severity.

Yang
05-06-2006, 07:43 AM
lol.....the image is amusing....could be photoshop trick....but i like to think it's real...to keep the magic on...if i see one person reading it....i would laugh....

Oosutorariajin
05-06-2006, 10:19 AM
you have to remember that any swear word from another language will never carry the same weight as it would with a native. That is the way with language. We grow up with a word being bad and get whacked everytime we pull it out and dust it off so we live with that. The only bonus of a foreign swear word is that you can say it and get away with it. beyond that when you really want to be insulting you would use your own so...

Osucka
05-06-2006, 10:32 AM
The best thing for me was the time I was in eating in a nice restaurant in Kobe my girlfriend took me to for my last birthday...
Based on the lyrics, I have to assume the title of song playing at full volume in the crowded restaurant (including many children), had to be "Fuck That Trick" or something very similar as I heard that line easily dozens of times.

Urban~Ninja
05-06-2006, 10:58 AM
I drop it alot, but not loudly since the girls i hang out with from my school know what it means in general but they understand the context i use it in. First time i said it though...Akward.

Me: Nearly got it *playing UFO Game* Woo its up....*drops just next to the vent* AHHH F*** THIS!!!!!!!!

Classmate #1: Fuck?!?! Why talk about sex? (she said it in broken english)

Me: ahhhhhh *sits the group down* time for me to teach you slang.

BigJDiesel20
05-07-2006, 12:09 AM
It's "pendejo". Evidently, you still don't know the word, even now...

I’m sorry but it is far too easy to mix up the spelling of pendejo with Bendeho. I just happend to mix the p and b sounds up and also the Spanish j makes an h sound.

kilreli
05-07-2006, 02:32 AM
To reinforce the point that some have made, this image:

http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/very-fucking-engrish-lesson.jpg

I don't know whether this is real or not. It may very well be real, though. Even if it isn't I think it still demonstrates the attitude the Japanese have concerning the F word - or at very least their ignorance of its severity.

:rofl: lol funny as hell, but i doubt its true. especially since the website is engrish.com. its has to be a joke.....maybe...?:watson:

Mysticalmelody
05-07-2006, 03:30 AM
^ engrish usually has real stuff.

I Like Shinny!
05-07-2006, 05:37 AM
Meh, I always yell out random things in English, because it's just funny to see the looks on people's faces when you randomly yell out; "Fuck you! You motherfuckerty fucker! Fuck you! Fuck You! You have two noses on your puddle! I have no idea what I'm saying right now!" at an old lady walking to the store with her grandchildren.

羽之助
05-07-2006, 05:46 AM
This is slightly off topic, but I was actually having a debate like this a few days ago with my girlfriend ...

"You can say 'Shut the fuck up' but you can't say 'Shut fuck up'. But you can say 'Fucking shut up.'"
"So it comes between a verb and an object then?"
"I guess so. But only in commands, right? You wouldn't say 'Would you like the fuck macaroni?', but 'Would you like some fucking macaroni?"
"Fuck the macaroni, you fucking fucker.'

I Like Shinny!
05-07-2006, 05:48 AM
This is slightly off topic, but I was actually having a debate like this a few days ago with my girlfriend ...

"You can say 'Shut the fuck up' but you can't say 'Shut fuck up'. But you can say 'Fucking shut up.'"
"So it comes between a verb and an object then?"
"I guess so. But only in commands, right? You wouldn't say 'Would you like the fuck macaroni?', but 'Would you like some fucking macaroni?"
"Fuck the macaroni, you fucking fucker.'
You two need help big time.

羽之助
05-07-2006, 05:49 AM
You two need help big time.

Fuck you. :D

I Like Shinny!
05-07-2006, 05:57 AM
Fuck you. :D
Ooookay...

Back on topic;

It's really funny when your friend try to cuss in English, but they teen to got tongue tied and motherfucker ends up; "mattafuka" or fucktard ends up; "fuktar" or something else crazy. Okay, if you're going to try and cuss out people in English try to learn basic English first. :duh:

Druid
05-07-2006, 06:02 AM
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

He's a bit of instruction for the english impared...

http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/history.htm

EDIT: I AM ONE OF THEM! Disgcraceful...

Not to self: Never type when drunk again. Much to messy.

羽之助
05-07-2006, 06:03 AM
Ooookay...

Wait, we're in a thread where you yourself posted that you deliver random swear words in English, and when I give a random swear, you respond with Ooookay? Your illogic befuddles me.

I Like Shinny!
05-07-2006, 06:06 AM
Wait, we're in a thread where you yourself posted that you deliver random swear words in English, and when I give a random swear, you respond with Ooookay? Your illogic befuddles me.
Yes, I do randomly yell out things at people, but the whole "fuck you" was... I'm not helping myself here, now am I?

jihei18
05-07-2006, 06:16 AM
This is slightly off topic, but I was actually having a debate like this a few days ago with my girlfriend ...

"You can say 'Shut the fuck up' but you can't say 'Shut fuck up'. But you can say 'Fucking shut up.'"
"So it comes between a verb and an object then?"
"I guess so. But only in commands, right? You wouldn't say 'Would you like the fuck macaroni?', but 'Would you like some fucking macaroni?"
"Fuck the macaroni, you fucking fucker.'

I once participated in an inpromptu lesson on gramatically correct curse words. "Fuck you fucker for fucking with my fucking stuff" was the grand finale!

羽之助
05-07-2006, 06:19 AM
Equilibrium has been achieved!

Anyway, the goal of any grammar lesson is to use a variant of fuck in every possible grammatical function.

NERD
05-07-2006, 06:22 AM
Anyway, the goal of any grammar lesson is to use a variant of fuck in every possible grammatical function.

EXAAAAACTLY. The correct usage of the word 'fuck' baffled me when I was learning English. Now that the lesson is complete, I can cuss like a sailor, like any proud American should.

jihei18
05-07-2006, 07:06 AM
My fovorite is "fuckery" My brother yells "What is this fuckery?" anytime someone rearranges his stuff. Or rather "fockery" since we are Trinis!

I Like Shinny!
05-07-2006, 07:10 AM
My fovorite is "fuckery" My brother yells "What is this fuckery?" anytime someone rearranges his stuff. Or rather "fockery" since we are Trinis!
Lol, "fuckery"?

Can I use that word?

jihei18
05-07-2006, 07:19 AM
Of course! The next time someone does something that no sane person would do, spit it out! You'll get an interesting reaction!