The plan in action! Joey's story.

[h2orowe]

Well, we, being familiar with Az's editorials, know well of the "Asshole-Girl-Nice Guy" relationship. Let's see! How many of us have seen it in effect!? All of us?! Good.
Gather round children, you're about to hear the tale of Joey, a simple nice guy from Orange, who fell in love in 7th grade, moved half way through 8th, and is still in love. He just told the girl recently, and got shot down, but maybe if he waits long enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Highly unlikely!
Let's see.... where were we? Oh yeah...
Well Asshole boyfriend: Played by Jordan
Girl: Played by Krista
and Nice Guy: Played by Joey

Our feature presentation is now about to begin... I appoligize for any/all inconvineances.
Joey messaged Krista, through Myspace, because Krista was in the Pilipines, visiting her sick grandmother. Krista had been sad the whole time, since she had broken up with Jordan. Jordan was an asshole, and didn't care about her. So, they took a break, but she got pissed, and told him off! You go Krista! But..... She missed him, so she wanted him back. She is in Love. Now there is fake love, and there is real love, I'm not sure what her love is, but I love her, for at least what I think is real love, I'd do anything for her.
Krista said..... "Joey, I'm really sad right now"
"Why Krista?"
"Because, Jordan had sex with another girl!"
Gasp! You heard it from the Joey's mouth folks, this kid's only 15 and he's banging a girl, AND another one!? Well, if that guy isn't an asshole, I don't know what is!
"What the hell!? I swear to god if I see him! Err! I will crush his face in!"
"Thanks..."
Blah blah blah, generic Nice Guy build up.
"Krista, you know I love you, not for your looks, but for you. I wouldn't care if you were heavier than me, or anything like that."
"I don't know what to say"
Basic telling her to feel good, and that her boyfriends an asshole.
"Joey, you know I love you right?"
"Yeah..." but not like that -.-
"But, I fell for Jordan first."
Than we talk about it, so it's basically, the guy she started dating halfway through 8th stole the girl that I've loved since 7th. Now, let's get back to the story, here's the part where you'll shit your pants in WTFness!
"Joey, would you be mad if I took him back?"
Of course, I'd be furious, are you a fucking idiot Krista!? He had sex with another girl! He obviously doesn't care! HE DOESN'T FUCKING CARE!
"Well, Krista, I'll be happy for you, if you're happy"
"So, is that a yeah?"
"I guess..."
Joey just fucking shut up! Tell her that you want her! You'll treat her right!
"Aww thank you Joey, but I won't take him back easily"
"You better not"
some other generic convo about it.
"Krista, why... do you want to change that asshole into a nice guy.... if you've got a nice guy like me waiting for you?"
"I'm in love with him, but if he treats me bad again, it's through. It's nice to know that you'll love me no matter what, and are waiting"
I basically said
Hey Krista, Date I don't care! Fuck as many guys as you want, I'll probably still be single, and than I'll take you when you're done.

What the fuck!?
I need to talk to her tommorow
cuz this posibility popped into my head.
What if her stupid mother fucking jackass, pussy chasing, scumbag of a boyfriend got the girl pregnant!
What if that happens!
What the hell will happen!

Note: Orange and Garden Grove are cities right next to each other, so it's a possible relationship.

[Snake eyeS]

Man that really sucks, bieng in love with a girl that treats you like shit and walks all over you and your feelings must suck.. this torment will continue until you are in love with someone else.. that might take a few years.. good luck :(
and dont count on getting the girl, the girl you love is in fact a major bitch who uses you. harsh but true words.

[h2orowe]

Hahaha, I don't care if she uses me... well... I do, but I'm OK with it I guess...
I made a blog about it XD and she left me a comment saying


"joey...this is really sweet....i cant say anything....i guess...all i can say is sorry your the nice guy in the situation...and i love the asshole...joey...you know i love you...you are close to my heart...and you always will....

love

krista.....<3<3<3"

Haha, so it's not like she's meaning to use me, it's more like she doesn't know better, I'll try and talk her out of it. I just don't want her to be with THAT guy, I mean, if she turned me down for someone that treated her better, I'd be fine with it.
Hahaha
Here's the blog I wrote:

"I happen to love a certain girl.... she happens to love a different guy.

That guy is a complete asshole, and did something that if I happen to run across him, he'll be eating food through a straw for. I mean, I'd bust his knee caps open, and than stomp his face in, untill he looked like... well.. he would look like a smashed in face.

She loves him though, so she's trying to fix things, which he's acted shitty to her before, so, I don't know why she goes back to him.

Girls like Assholes. Assholes use girls, for sex. Assholes lie to girls constantly, and do things like that asshole did. Assholes don't care. Assholes are assholes. Girls think they can change assholes. Girls get their hearts broken, by assholes. Asshole doesn't care. Girl's run to the Nice guy, and of course, the Nice Guy loves the Girl so he'll cheer her up. Now, the Girl's ego is fixed, and she feels better. The Nice Guy wonder's why he can't have her. It's because he's, well, he's a Nice Guy. The Girl, who had gotten her heart stomped by the Asshole, goes running back to him. The Asshole doesn't care but sex is sex right? The Nice Guy, is still alone. The Asshole hurts the Girl again. It's the same thing, but repeated over.

Why do Girls like Assholes? Because they think they can change them. Change them into what exactly? Change them into Nice Guys, but wait! Why change the Asshole into a Nice Guy? It's impossible! You can't change someone, only yourself, no matter how many times you try! Why would they submit their selfs to so much pain!? Are they crazy!? Dear lord, we need a doctor! Help! No! It's because they are girls! While, not all Girls are like this, most say they aren't, but of course, they are!

They're not stupid. They just don't know what they get themselves into! It's a sad deal my friends, but the world's a sad place.

Girls! Open your eyes! Stop playing dumb, just because you think you can change him! It's not gonna happen, Assholes spit out shit! Nothing else!

Heh, in case you're wondering..... yes... I'm a nice guy. I bet most of you know the girl I speak of, but in case you're from Garden Grove, than you don't.

Hey girl! You know who you are! Remember, you can't change the asshole into a nice guy, but remember. There's a nice guy waiting for you, and that's me!"

Note: I didn't give out any names or actions.

[Snake eyeS]

"joey...this is really sweet....i cant say anything....i guess...all i can say is sorry your the nice guy in the situation...and i love the asshole...joey...you know i love you...you are close to my heart...and you always will....

and what she forgot to write: And now excuse me as i go back to my asshole so he can screw me over, ill be back when things turn for the worst though!

your plan of attack should be to get a girlfriend. doesnt matter what kind(maybe you have trouble getting one) but get a girlfriend and cut that kirsta off.. if she doesnt come after you, you know for sure you are waisting your time waiting around for her.

[h2orowe]

You see the thing is, I love her as a friend too, me and her are really close, and I don't mind having a female friend, right now, I'm trying to talk her out of going back to that asshole.

[h2orowe]

Haha, I wrote her an ultimatem,
"Krista, it's 6 AM, and I've barely slept, I can't, thinking of what a catastrophic misdeed is being done.
How can you take back... someone who had sex with another girl... pretty much when you were still together...
His words may sound sweet, but his actions will break your heart into a thousand pieces, and he won't be there to build it back. If you take him back Krista, you're letting him win. It's like, you're saying "Oh, don't mind my feelings, I'll be over here sobbing until I'm lifeless, while you don't care, and when you're done.... I'll be waiting" You're letting him think that it's ok for what he has done.
It's making me sick. The fact that he would so much as stare as another girl with you on his mind is enough to take action. I know you love him Krista, but how can you love someone who treats you like dirt? How can you run back to him....
He can say he loves you Krista, but it's just a word. True Love is a feeling, and no ink can express it. It's deeper than that. It's hard to describe.
I don't want you to say sorry to me though. What will make me, and you, feel a whole lot better was if you took time, to disect your whole outlook on him, how many times has he hurt you? I think 3 that I know of.
In my book it's:
1=Take him back, if he slaves his bones off for it.
2=Don't even look at him again.
3=There shouldn't be a 2, let alone a 3.
Girls shouldn't be treated this way. You've gotten disrespected by him too much! It's an injustice!
The fact of the matter is, if he's willing to have sex with another girl.... a few days after you've broken up, shows what he's after, and how much he cares for your feelings. It's dumb to even do that at such a young age, I mean, look at how many consequences there are!
He's after one thing Krista, and if it came down to it. I'd choose emotions over sex, sex is a small part of a relationship, but feelings and being with someone just because you love them are the best parts.
I wish there were words to describe my love for you; and my utter hatred, and contempt I hold for Jordan.
It's like 6:16 now, I'm putting as much thought as I can into this. I'm running on like 2 hours of sleep, and I'm trying to stop someone I love from making a huge mistake, so, it's not my best writing.
Krista, if you want someone to love you, without your make-up, I will, he won't. If you want someone to love you for who you are, and not what you do, I will, he won't.
I can only wait for so long Krista, and if you run back to him, I'll love you, I'll be there, but I don't know if someone else will be.
If you'll take me, I'll get a ride to Orange on every weekend, and every chance I can, and the second I get a car, I'll be there every moment possible.
Whatever the outcome is Krista, I will love you no matter what, but the time I'll take you, is now ending. I can't wait forever.
The asshole will never be the nice guy. The nice guy's waiting, but I'm not gonna wait forever.
I love you Krista, and no matter what, I want to be there for you. I just can't wait forever, and I won't. I'll always love you, though, so, no matter what, I'll lend you a shoulder to cry on.
I hope you make the right choice, and will be happy, I just hope your heart doesn't break again.
I love you, your friend/body guard/emotional support/buddha Joey.

The time it took me to write this, was around 53 minuites"
That whole buddha/body guard thing was from 7th/8th grade....

[General_Admission]

^ wow

I have the opposite problem. My last gf (& first) almost refuses to be friends with me & I just ignore her. It's impossible for us to be friends. We were however still acting like we were dating for a while even after we broke up. It was weird. She could have been a friend with benefits if I knew what to do back then. When we pass in the hall we just ignore each other. I can tell it hurts her, but I really don't care b/c she is a selfish bitch and complete loser. Maybe some day she will try to come back to me, but I doubt it since her self-esteem is near null.

In fact, the girl I'm trying to steal is one of her friends! MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I know I'm being mean, but I really don't care how much I hurt her just b/c she is that messed up. She's psycho.

I think the Ladder Theory really does apply.

[h2orowe]

Kristaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
She's read my letter, and been on twice since, and still no reply!
Damn it!

[General_Admission]

I think you really just put the nail in your own coffin with that letter. How pathetic can u look to her, eh? You are on the friend's letter. The best you can get is some spooning and some cuddleing but that is it & u have to be at teh very top of her friend's ladder to get that. Sorry.

I say just drop your friend/lover completely or just accept the fact that you are just going to be friends.

[General_Admission]

You should have take nthe aloof strategy. Pretended like you just didn't care about her relationship with this guy. You could talk to her, but w/o any of that emotional bull you just gave. Make yourself look confident and agree about how her bf is loser or whatever for screwing someone else, but never bring it up yourself.

After doing that fopr some time you could try to just kiss her and then pretend it was a mistake and say you asre sorry. You will then either fall into the abyss or make it to her lover ladder! You have to be crafty with your words.

[Snake eyeS]

I might think your ultimation scared her off a bit sharing your feelings is always a big NO NO. but your doing your best.. but as i said before, dont get your hopes up.. the little bit i know from her she seems that shes a real bitch who doesnt give a rats ass about you.. consider your friendship dead. as she seems to me that she will chicken out.. or come to her senses and be honest.. which prolly wont happen.

[h2orowe]

No matter what, we won't not be friends, but the whole girlfriend thing, is highly unlikely, which saddens me, cuz I'll treat her better than anyone, but she likes getting treated like shit, like alot of women, so I'm pretty much going to say fuck it after her response.
The reason I came off like that
was becuase I was fucking being honest, I'm not trying to get with her to get laid man, I'm fucking intrested in her! Not her pussy.

[General_Admission]

^ ok. What we said works fo getting her. What you want to do once you get her is up to you.

& how do you know you will treat her better than any other guy? Women do not like to be treated like shit. They make themseleves be treated like shit. You see. Your whole mind set is screwed up. Just stop being so bleeding heart.

Imagine you are a girl and you have very low self-esteem. Do you want to date the guy who is strong and makes you feel good or the one who can only concentrate on your emotions and remind you every second about them? No matter what you say she won't feel better about herself until she chooses on her own to feel better. Until then you can only be a source of strength for her. Be confident! Be a MAN you pussy!

[h2orowe]

Hahaha! Oh my god, I make her feel better, why the hell would she come to me to talk about this shit. Hahahaha, oh you fool. XD
Nah just playing but seriously
She's always saying how good I make her feel about herself, and such.

[General_Admission]

This is a proper Yin Yang. Notice the balance? This is your goal.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Yin_yang.png

This is you. Notice how you are trying to reverse roles? Makes an ugly yin yang doesn't it? Makes life hard and complicated.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Sharpie001/Yin_yang2.png

Stop thinking so much and just have fun with a girl. She will thank you for it.

[h2orowe]

Ha! My Yin Yang is more like All white.
I didn't ever do anything as mean as giving a girl an ultimatem, which is nothing.
Which I was told to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHhh! People stop giving me mixed advice!
I need a girl to ask me out -.- it's so much easier.
Haha, I'm gonna go lay down and act emo
I only got 2 1/2 hours of sleep.

[OliveButtercup]

Ha! My Yin Yang is more like All white.
I didn't ever do anything as mean as giving a girl an ultimatem, which is nothing.
Which I was told to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHhh! People stop giving me mixed advice!
I need a girl to ask me out -.- it's so much easier.
Haha, I'm gonna go lay down and act emo
I only got 2 1/2 hours of sleep.

Hun, First of all I think you may be a little young for Az's rules to apply, I don't know. I'm not so sure 14/15 year old girls even know what kind of guys they like, let alone grown women. Second, you seem adorable and will be the perfect guy, TO THE RIGHT GIRL. You may have to take the macho /chauvanistic approach to this. But don't become an asshole! Balance is what you need. We all have been through the young loves/crushes. It hurts. But you can't open your heart like that for someone that you aren't with yet. Listen, hang back for a minute, don't let your emotions get the best of you. Get off the damn computer, and go to the mall with your boys and check out some honeys. That's an order. Oh, and don't go having sex with random girls if you aren't ready for it. Ok, sorry to sound like your mom on that last part. *muah*

[h2orowe]

Heh, it's hard not to be all like emotional though, it's who I am, it's hard for me to not be who I am. I think I found a nice girl, but, *stabs self in the eyes like a gajillion times* (I never do the little asterisk things but that was appropriate) I was feeling shitty about Krista, and told her about it. That girl was the only one I've felt pretty much the same I felt for Krista.
Heh, I don't check out girls, this summer I totally became all wussified, to the point where like, I don't judge on looks at all, to like I don't really care for looking anymore :(
Meh, I'll just die alone XD I'm all emo right now cuz she hasn't responded and it's like hour 5 :/ .

[OliveButtercup]

Heh, it's hard not to be all like emotional though, it's who I am, it's hard for me to not be who I am. I think I found a nice girl, but, *stabs self in the eyes like a gajillion times* (I never do the little asterisk things but that was appropriate) I was feeling shitty about Krista, and told her about it. That girl was the only one I've felt pretty much the same I felt for Krista.
Heh, I don't check out girls, this summer I totally became all wussified, to the point where like, I don't judge on looks at all, to like I don't really care for looking anymore :(
Meh, I'll just die alone XD I'm all emo right now cuz she hasn't responded and it's like hour 5 :/ .

ok...I'll leave you to wallow in teenage angst.

[h2orowe]

XD Oh how true is that, I'm all listening to emo music right now, hahaha, Sparta, Recover, and like old Finch.
Heh, she still hasn't replied.....
I'm begining to think she is a bitch :/

[OliveButtercup]

XD Oh how true is that, I'm all listening to emo music right now, hahaha, Sparta, Recover, and like old Finch.
Heh, she still hasn't replied.....
I'm begining to think she is a bitch :/

That's the spirit

[h2orowe]

Kokujin gave me good advice haha, go somewhere, but I can't :(
Haha, he told me to stop hitting the refresh button, but I can't....
hahaha.... Joey's having an Emo Sunday.....
"I've hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit the refresh button countless times to day...
Where are you away?"
Dude.................. Everlong.....
"Hello, I've waited here for you... everlong....
Tonight.... I throw myself into.... out of the red... out of her head she sang..."
Well Foo Fighters aren't emo, but my mood is.....

[h2orowe]

Woot! Update well on the music
I switched to sadish stuff to Reggae.
Pressure Drop, Pressure Dropin down on you.

[h2orowe]

Well, I've listened to music for like 3 hours. Still no reply.....
She's packing today, and leaving to head back to America I think, so hopefully that's what's taking so long.
I'm about ready to write an appology note..... because she's one of my best friends, and my best friend that's a girl. I just don't want to get shot down, and than lose an awesome friend. -.- Krista, please, wherever the hell you are, answer the message, I need to know........

[Myrsilus]

I think you might have scared the mixed up girl... I know you say that you can't help but pour out emotion, but you really need to control that. She was cheated on and now she needed you for support. I don't think it was the most intelligent move to allow your heart to bleed so profusely.

If I were in your current situation, I would write a short... a short apology. If you try to extend it too long, you'll no doubt say more than you need to say. I know this sounds weak, but you need to trust in fate a little. If this guy is truly an asshole that cheated on his girlfriend, there is the possibility he will do it again. Cheaters never get that out of their system.

I never really have this problem... I wish I could help you more. I mean I've come close to having relationships but I always had a way opposite problem than you have... I never speak.

[h2orowe]

Haha, I almost wrote her an appology letter.
I'm saving it... for her response.....
I just don't want to lose her.
But she's said We'll always be friends, after I confessed my love to her a while ago.

[Bobbybirdtree]

Sometimes you need to let things go. It seems like it hurts more for you to be in contact with her. Move on.

[h2orowe]

Heh, I wrote her an appology letter...
I'm fucking stupid. -.-

[Snake eyeS]

what makes people hurt themselfs over and over again? Its a good thing i have no feelings, nor am i capable of sharing them.

[koku]

Heh, I wrote her an appology letter...
I'm fucking stupid. -.-


lol i'm sure i already laughed at you for this.

but i just read it here. this girl has you by the balls man.

YOU MUST CURE YOURSELF!


TELL HER TO LET GO OF YOUR BALLS!

[tekkan]

Ya, h2orowe. Sorry man. But reading this thread is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

At first it was avoidable. But then you kept digging yourself deeper and deeper into the hole.

As someone mentioned before, the girl is 15. They really have no concept of love, they use to word freely. Its basically puppy love, a crush or basically the secruity of having someone fimilar around.

That is why alot of people stay around in broken relationships for so long. Even though it is going sour, their partner is still someone who they feel comfortable with, they get a senseof fimilarity and security around that person. So for a someone out of the blue to pry them away from that..well that is going to take alot of effort.

I think you've pretty much scared her off...esp with those letters so close to each other.

But its hard when you like the girl as much as you have described. I understand how you feel, you just want to tell her everything. But its best to just let it go now. Just distance yourself from her for a few weeks. Some a hobby or something to change your focus. And then a) go back to just being her friend and go look for other fish in the sea b) go after her again, but this time with some finese. :)

[h2orowe]

Heh, luckily, she's either on a plane back to America still, or she's leaving today back, or she's with her friends right now, and yesterday I was a big frigging emo mess, but I got some sleep, and I'm almost positive she'll still be my friend.
It's really hard to describe, it's like the main reason I love this girl, is just because she's like so nice. In 8th grade, to act cool in front of my friends, because I was being stupid for those like weeks, I would act like a jackass to her, mind you this really hurt me, but like, no matter how mean I was to her, when I appologized, she let me be her friend again, and still in the same way, it's not like anything changed. When I told her I loved her, she just said sorry I love Jordan, and I was like, oh ok, I'd like it if we can still be friends, and she said "we'll be friends no matter what" . I don't know, it's like this girl has been on my mind, almost 24/7 for the past 3 years.....
Heh, it just hurts so bad to love someone so much, when they don't love you the same back.

[tekkan]

Wow, that is some serious shit. I dunno what to say.

From our point of view it is easy just to say things like, omg your going to seem so desperate and even from my post you're going to scare her off.

I guess it is harder when it is happening to you. And it is kind of hard to listen to advice from total strangers over the internet who've only caught a glimpse into your life ;)

But I guess you probably just wanted to vent somewhere. But anyways, whats done is done.

Just wait it out and see what happens. Don't let it get you down too much. Hey who knows, she might finally see Joey for the great guy that he is. :D

[h2orowe]

Hahaha thanks, she gets home today :D I found out haha, I'm hoping for the best!

[h2orowe]

OKOKOKOKOKOK HERE'S THE DRAMATIC CONCLUSION :O gasp!

Weeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
She just got back, and replied to me or w/e haha, and like, she said that "it was really sweet...i was just speechless....what could i say to that...." WEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllll llllll
The answer was no :( hahaha IM A LOSER! Yeah! Woo! We're still great friends though, but like, I guess we will never be more than that!

Joey congratulations, You fail at love!

[h2orowe]

:O It seems like she's ignoring me now! Wow, if she really is, than she is a bitch.
It's like I asked her if I could call her, and she doesn't even respond :/ meh, if I lose this friendship, I'll be emo for months.

[tekkan]

Ignoring dosn't necessarily mean she is a bitch. You can't expect things to go back to the way they were. Well not right away.

Like imagine you were in her place. A friend of yours professes their love for you and you didn't return the feeling and had to tell them no. Wouldn't it be awkward for you to talk to them right after that?

I know I would feel so bad, and wouldn't be able to look them in the face for a while.

[h2orowe]

Nevermind, haha, I guess she was just like busy.
She had like 6 guys ask her out! And 2 profess their love! I was like what the hell!?
So, yeah, we're still friends, and she isn't ignoring me.

[tekkan]

Popular girl.

[Loc]

Just try and focus on something else, it'll help you forget about her.

Become an alcoholic! That way, you won't even know what day it is, nevermind who you love \o/

[h2orowe]

Fuck that, I'm not going to drink. My family seriously has big problems with alcoholism. And when I fell in love with her she wasn't popular :( I knew her back when she was like "not known"

[h2orowe]

OH MY GOD JOEY I TOTALLY FEEL THE NEED TO TALK TO YOU WHEN I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH JORDAN, BUT EVEN THOUGH I MADE YOU THROW YOUR FEELINGS AWAY INTO A TRASH BIN I WONT REPLY TO QUESTIONS YOU ASK!

Fuck it! She is seriously pissing me off. It's like, I'm her fairweather friend. I was talking to her about her boyfriend, cuz she wanted to -.- . Like she said she was crying. So, I sent her a thingy asking if she was OK, it said Read but not replied. I sent her one asking if she wanted to go to Boomers (a family fun centerish type place) with me and some friends, it said READ but not replied. I sent her another one in a pissed off tone, and saying I'm asking you a simple yes or no question. C'mon I'm trying to cheer you up. Guess what?! READ.
Her boyfriend totally changed her. She was like my best friend, but like now it's as if I'm only her friend when she needs me.

[MFDub]

Dude....chillax...things happen. Give each other some space. It's very difficult to immediatly be friends after a situation like the one you two are currently in. Take a couple of weeks to be courteous to each other, but don't make an effort to force yourself forward. Hang back a bit and let the situation and the emotions simmer down. And then, when you're both slightly more rational, you can work on rebuilding the friendship a step at a time. It's not easy, but it can be done.

As for your broken feelings, bleed, mourn and then start to heal. If you don't move on, you're just going to keep hurting yourself. So give yourself a few days to get over the pain and then start working on making yourself feel better.

[koku]

i'm going to play the evil shoulder and say you are seeing some of the bad flaws about her.



seperate yourself from her.


she wants to only come to you when she has problems with jordan, but not listen to you?


don't waiste your time.

If she honestly likes/wants to be your friend, give it time and she'll make it clear. If not, and she truly is how she's acting like now, It'll appear aswell. No reason to get so involved at this point.



live your life.


There's a crapload of people you haven't met yet. Everyone has good and bad. Sure it's all you've known for a while, but the world doesn't begin and end with this girl.



You're 15.


Stop being so attatched to her. Good or bad outcome, it's still a bad thing. Clear your mind, dont get too emo(:P), and just go live all aspects of life. Focus on the negative too much It starts to take you down with it.



That's just what I think.

[tekkan]

And whatever you do. Don't become a stalker. That is just bad.

[h2orowe]

WHO SAID I WAS A STALKER >.> <.< shhh shes waking up, I'm typing to loud! :O
SHIET SHIET SHIET SHIET AHH! IT'S HARD TO RUN HOLDING A DESKTOP!

Dude, the reason I'm so attached to her, is because the way I met her, I don't feel like getting into that now. I'll tell you the "Jist" of it. I pretty much got ditched by my friends, she saw that I was alone, and invited me to hang out with her.

[tekkan]

Haha, I was just kidding around man. :D

But I've seen when some guys "get too attached". Its not pretty. :D

[h2orowe]

IM NOT ATTACHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM NOT STALKING HER..... OH FUCK! IF THEY FIND OUT IM VIOLATING MY COURT ORDER >.> <.< >.> <.<

I'm calling her today. I miss her :( .

[OliveButtercup]

IM NOT ATTACHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM NOT STALKING HER..... OH FUCK! IF THEY FIND OUT IM VIOLATING MY COURT ORDER >.> <.< >.> <.<

I'm calling her today. I miss her :( .

I've given up on you already. ;)

[Mushu]

WHO SAID I WAS A STALKER >.> <.< shhh shes waking up, I'm typing to loud! :O
SHIET SHIET SHIET SHIET AHH! IT'S HARD TO RUN HOLDING A DESKTOP!

Dude, the reason I'm so attached to her, is because the way I met her, I don't feel like getting into that now. I'll tell you the "Jist" of it. I pretty much got ditched by my friends, she saw that I was alone, and invited me to hang out with her.

IM NOT ATTACHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM NOT STALKING HER..... OH FUCK! IF THEY FIND OUT IM VIOLATING MY COURT ORDER >.> <.< >.> <.<

I'm calling her today. I miss her :( .
Believe or not you are a stalker now and you are too attached. calling her names and calling her and leaving her msg's is what stalkers and attached people do dude, get a life and move on or stay the way you are and get hurt even more and be ridiculed by everyone that hears this either from her or from you. See I’m just a guy sitting on the other side of the world and by hearing this from you, you have automatically fallen into my category of stalkers and too attached people and you are only 15.

Life is shit and things don’t always go as you want, learn to deal with it.

[h2orowe]

XD I decided not to call her btw.... I don't love her anymore (well kind of, but like it seems she's changed...) but it's like she's my friend, and I want to help her out now.... and she's been way sad lately..
but I guess she needs to be alone (From everyone though) so like, I'm just going to wait a week.

[The Divine Comedy]

Advice from a (hopefully fairly sensible) female: I must agree a bit with what others have said. You basically need to get some perspective on the situation so you can figure out what to do. I know it's hard. But it's not impossible. It sounds like Krista is a bit immature on the whole dating thing. (But forgiving a teenage boyfriend for sleeping around... Sometimes I don't understand teenage girls... and I am one -_-). But you are both 15. I know it seems like total shit right now, but it will pass. You will grow up, meet lots of new people and maybe find someone more suited to you. Of course, Krista could figure out what a fantastic guy she has sitting next to her. And, remote as this possibility sounds, you might not still like her by then. Anyway, best of luck. And listen to some more cheerful music, dammit! You're making me depressed.

[koku]

see divine comedy, this is sadness.

[The Divine Comedy]

Which "this" do you speak of? "This" meaning me, or "this" meaning him... if it's the second I must agree. Teenage angst... -_-

[koku]

obvouisly this being joey's situation. I mean...we're in his thread and all

:rolleyes: .

[The Divine Comedy]

obvouisly this being joey's situation. I mean...we're in his thread and all

True. :o

I agree that this thread is more than slightly sad, but I do feel bad for him. He kind of reminds me of one of my friends. Same sort of drama, same sort of coping mechanism (sad music and sappy emails). I'm wondering how common this sort of thing is.

[h2orowe]

Sad Music and Sappy Emails? XD sounds like an emo CD title.
Anyways, I mope for a few days, but I get over this stuff fast, I am. It's when friends get in shitty situations that I get sad for a long time for.
XD I sent her an email, asking how she was and like.... was like if you need space, I'll give you space, I just want to make sure you're ok, because you're like one of my best friends, and I just want to let you know I'll always be there. (I had already told her I'd gotten over here, I still love her, but I ignore it) ((Also, I cried ((((somewhat))) waiting for her reply.... thank god I ate something hot that night, cuz like my mom saw it, and I just said "dinner was hot :/" and she like kinda thought I was lying "well, you barely got any sleep" so it's like ok, it wasnt like OMG OMG SOB SOB it was more of teary eyes and a few drops))
and she said something along the lines of
OMG.... I called Jordan last night at 3 AM, and sang him a song called "Please Forgive Me" by Bryan Adams (or something like that XD -.-) and he said "I love you Krista, and you're too good for me..." and I snuck out of my house in the morning, and I laid there naked with him, but don't worry, I didn't give him sex. I'm so happy and sad, I'm confused"
-.- Krista...... you need to realize that he's no good for you. I love you enough, that I'm happy if you're happy, but this is just going to get you hurt! err! If only I can say that! But I can't, she'd be mad at me, she'd thank me for that later, but by then, we'd of probably lost contact, and I can't handle that. She's my best friend, and it's like, I'd rather her always be my best friend, than to be just a girlfriend.
So, I wrote her "Krista, you know what I think of him, BUT you're my friend, and I'll support anything you do, I just want you to know, I'll always be there for you to turn to in trouble." and said some other things to make plans for meeting later this week.


EDIT!: The reason I cried, is because she's one of my best friends ever, and if I lost her, I'd feel horrible.

[The Divine Comedy]

Well, sometimes it takes the hard hand of experience to make someone realize how badly they've fucked up. I hope her wake-up call is as gentle as possible.

[h2orowe]

Me too, I still love her, but I ignore that, and love her as a friend now. It's better for both of us, maybe. I just hope I find someone soon, haha, being lonely sucks alot.

I seriously hope she doesn't get hurt by him! It's not fun, seeing your friends do something hurtful, and you have no way of stopping them!

[koku]

hmmm, you have will power. I would have read that the relationship between you and kirsta is no where NEAR 50-50. It seems to me like you're doing all the work and such.

that would turn ME off :P

but best of luck, I don't know the whole story of course.

ONWARDS!

[h2orowe]

Well, you pretty much know the story as of now. She was awesome back in 7th/8th.
And yes the relationship is NOT 50-50, but I've learned to give, and not expect something in return, I just appreciate being appreciated for it. It's like, when she says "Thanks for being such a great friend" or "Thanks for helpinig me" or "Thanks for being there" I just smile, and that's enough of our relationship to make me be there for her forever. But lately, it's like she doesn't say thanks, but I think it's because she was sad. It's like she was FINALLY realizing he was bad for her, but she did the dumb thing, and now thinks he's great again.
I remember, back when we were like best friends when I lived there (now only a city over though :( but it's still a city) so, I hold those memories and cherish them, and will never turn my back on her.
I was her friend, for her friendship, never her friend, to get her as a girlfriend, I just happened to fall in love.
:D I remember, back in the day, she was dorky, and had acne, and wasn't popular, and I loved her than, but now, she's like "Miss ask out on a date" so it's like, she might've thought me liking her for that. If anything, that changed things in a way.

[koku]

actions speak louder than words man. any girl can say thanks every now and then to keep you there. If she's not making effort beyond a few thank yous...I dont know how you can compare what you do/go through to "oh thanks i love you so much thx bye!"

[h2orowe]

Well, back when I was in Orange, she'd hug me, and it felt great. I'd get hugs from other girls, but like hers seemed, I don't know, different.