What is your opinion about modding?

[ZaichikArky]

I wish I knew how to make a poll >_<. *sucks*

Anyway, I am *very* against it. My boyfriend has a modded ps2. The thing is *broke ass* now and I'm afraid it will give in someday. The laser somehow got all fucked up .. not to mention it can BARELY play PS1 games and it can't handle DVDs OR Any normal PS2 game. So the only thing it can play is burned games for some reason. He used to actually *buy* games, but he never does that anymore.

One thing is that it's not fair. That some people buy their games and some just stick a mod chip in and burn their stuff. it's likening it to downloading music off the internet, but in this case, I actually care that I am doing a small part buy giving VG-related companies profit. That's not the bigger issue though.

I'd never mod any console. I also am pretty against emulation.

With my gamecube, I bought this freeloader *just* so I can play Japanese games. It doesn't harm my console and it only cost me 20 bucks. Saved me the hassle of modding(messing up) my console... something I'd have never done in the first place. I wish it were that easy with the PS2, but you can do nothing in short of ruining your PS2 if you want to play Japanese games.

This is why I'm happy that the PS3 is going to be region free. Ohh someone posted that here. Hurray.

I bet that no one will agree with me. I just don't understand why people think it's alright to ruin thier consoles by modding it and not buying their games anymore... especially for the PS2. There is no real reason to mod an X box or game cube. Especially the game cube. there is no way to burn mini discs :p. I don't care about X boxes, but isn't it really easy to just play emulations on it anyway?

I have a dreamcast I bought for 20 bucks. Wonderful little damn console. My boyfriend burned all the 3 or so game I play on it. I don't feel guilty at all either because how easy would it be for me to find KOF 2002 on the Dreamcast and play it? Right. All I want is my Mark of the Wolves ;_;. I will pay money for that! *goes to ebay*. Also, it's not necessary to mod the dreamcast.

So what are peoples justifications for modding their PS2s other than they don't want to pay for games anymore? I'd really like to know.

[PiccoloNamek]

I put a flip-top on my PS2. It's the best thing I ever did for it. It still runs just fine. I did not ruin it. You'd have to be dumb to ruin your PS2 by modding it.

I also have every SNES and Genesis game ever made, for emulation. I've only played about 1% of them. You have to understand, some of these games simply aren't available anymore. Emulation is the only way for us to enjoy them.

[Dorcas Po]

Modding for fun: If you can do it, good for you.
Modding for piracy: Well, piracy 'aint always bad; if the game’s a game you already/can't/wouldn't pay for anyway. I've lost too many games to thieves... aught to replace them cheaply someday... I've bought a couple twice, damnit...

...

That PS2's problem sounds like a "disk read error", it's common in them crappy-assed PS2s, and less so in the other consoles. Mostly them crappy-assed PS2s. It's a misaligned laser (if misaligned laser it is), and can be fixed fairly easy if you dig around for how-to's on the internet.

My Gamecube got a disk read error, not from modding (and certainly not from regular use, not for a lack of regular use) but from my dropping it really bad. I managed to fix it by turning a little adjustable screw-thingy on the laser. Added a badass paintjob and lights too... might post a picture tomorrow...

I'd 'ave tried to region mod it, it's apparently just a simple soldering of two points, or putting in a wire with a nifty switch... but then I realized, I don't speak Japanese.

Heh, well, an' I broke the soldering iron I was using, then tried to fix it by soldering itself, then there was this huge spark and I went blind in my right eye for the rest of the day. And the next morning I woke up with pinkeye somehow! It was an adventure!

So, yeah. In summary, even self-destructive morons with borrowed tools can have fun with paint and lights and such. Perfectly ethical, if dangerous and warranty-voiding.

[Dorcas Po]

Emulation is the only way for us to enjoy them.
Didja hear today, somewhat off-topic, Nintendo done a deal to include Genesis and Turbografx-16 games on the Revolution's "Virtual Console" thingy?

Digital distribution of olde games sounds awful nice to me, depending on the price and selection (and maybe availability of dialup access), even though I've got a bunch of highly illegal ROMs of years past on my computor. Even got my Gamecube-to-USB controller adaptor to play 'em with. Sweet.

Still, they're a pain in the ass to acquire and get running (pain in the half-ass, anyway), and it's always a world's difference playing on a PC rather than a console...

On the third hand, digital distribution through official channels will probably never have the freedom and scope of even ethical piracy. We'd need a true revolution for that.

I've only played about 1% of them
Heh, it's the rough estimate that only 10% are worth playing. I'm not blinded by nostalgia, just see good games as good games, no matter how olde.

I guess I have gone pretty far off topic.

[Decade]

I'm ok with modding simply cause if u do it right, you dont have to worry about the same problems you and your bf has to zaichik.

I got mine from Hong Kong over the summer where they loaded it up with everyone of the latest modchips there are today (and since it was Hong Kong it costed ONLY about $15 more than a regular slimline ps2 in the states!) and while I know it may decrease the lifespan of the PS2

I dont care.

Simply cause, people who do this typically want a LOT of games. I myself bought like 27 ps2 games (for an average of ~$3 a pop) in Hong Kong and when I got home I got a game pass and burned about 30 more within a month.

Considering each game costs on average $39.99-$49.99 each, thats a HELL of a value you're making. Not only that, but in comparisson to actually PAYING for all of those games or just buying a new PS2 and modchips when mine dies, it suits me fine.

Now, there ARE alternatives to modchipping your ps2. There is a disc called the "HD Loader" for the old brick PS2 that you could stick the FFXI hard drives in. What they do is great because you stick the HD Loader disc in, then you stick in the original game, and it SAVES THE GAME TO THE HD.

Why is this so great?

Because now that you're running the game FROM THE HD, NOT THE DISC it actually runs FASTER (you should see a comparisson of load time rates between an original GTA disc and one on a HD loader HD).

Now, it does have a maximum capacity (I think the most you can fit on one HD is ~20 games), but all things considering again, buying another HD for your PS2 for about $100 in comparison to paying $1000 for 20 new games sounds pretty reasonable.

I am unsure if it allows the play of import games.

I am unsure if it stores dvd movies.


I'm probably gonna be ridiculed for this, but I actually have a feeling that modding the PS3 will be EASIER this time around with it being region-free and having a replacable 2.5 inch hard drive (Just for clarification, is this the standard kind of HD used in regular desktop pcs?? If so, I wonder if we can buy any regular comp HD on the side and stick it in!)

[Jay]

I'm all for modding.

[Decade]

This might be a random ass question, but I'm gonna need it soon

Anyone happen to know where in New York (probably Chinatown district) you can go to get a modded sytem, copied games, import games, or system repairs?

I'd imagine Canal Street, but I'm not good at shopping in American Chinatowns (simply cause I havent REALLY done it before)

Hell, if anyone knows a place in the Boston area I wouldnt mind either.


Anyone know if the Chinatowns in So Cal (Like in LA, SF, etc) have this shit too? I've never been.

[Jerith]

Modding anything you own was and is somthing of North American culture. People have been modding and improving their vehicles since the 50's. Sometimes its to improve the product (like swapping in a larger HD into a xbox, or a Tivo). Sometimes its just about expressing yourself (doing a case swap where its clear with flashing lights). Its sometimes about making sometying better, and sometimes its just about the cost of creating a collection of games where someof them might not have all that much replay value.

I have a buddy who makes a nice living importing various replacement parts into canada from places like taiwan and such. If you want to see what else you can mod, or just need replacement parts for your system and its off warrenty anyways, go visit www.foundmy.com

Personally, I have a modded PS1 and thats it. A few games for it, but I dont play it much anymore.. in fact, I play my NES more than the PS1 (Even have a seperate dedicated 13 inch tv for the NES, and I haven't taken Techmo Bowl out of the machine for 3 years...). I've been watching the new game system wars and belive the PS3 will be the one to own... its a shortcut to a bluedisk reader and has ports that have the newest accepted standards (HDTV is already obsolete). It'll be cheaper than buying a new type of DVD player (but still not cheap). Hopefully they'll develop mods that let us express ourselves with the PS3 as well.. Like Jay said, i'm all for modding and inovation.

Jer

[Darth_E_]

I am currently considering modding my PStwo so I can play JAP region games. If sony wasnt stupid enough to make the ps2 region-specific, I wouldnt even consider modding my PS2.

[tekkan]

$59.99 for a game is expensive.

[JapaneseLever]

i modded my xbox so that i could watch all my anime on my t.v. (geek power), also i didn't have to open it up; it was all softmod.

anyways i just modded my ps2 so i could play japanese games (since i leave for there in a week). yes modding is like an american past-time. everyone mods everything around my area. you must or else you're not in the 'in' crowd.

p.s. modding the ps2 is a bitch; i'm not gonna lie

p.p.s. ps3 ftw

[Decade]

I wanna learn how to mod, as already stated since it IS an American past time, it's also something pretty useful to know.

I know people modded their xboxes to do stuff OTHER than play burned games.

I WANNA LEARN HOW TO DO THAT

I'm just to afraid to solder.

[JapaneseLever]

as i said previously i used a soft mod for my xbox. it is now the best console i ever had. you don't need to open up your xbox or solder anything.

this (http://www.productwiki.com/microsoft_xbox/article/how_to_go_from_xbox_to_xbox_media_center_in_30_min utes.html) is the link i used and it has all the info you need. you just need to be somewhat computer-literate

[mediocre]

You can "softmod" your PS2 (fat version) easily. I got HDLoader running most of my games, and the games that don't work with HDLoader I can just burn and do the swap-trick.

I never used my PS2 until I exploited it, now, I use it alot. From playin games to using it as a media center.

Won't buy a ps3 or 360 until they are easily able to play copied games. Though 360 is very close to that.

[six-eight-ten]

I have no feelings about modding itself. Piracy, on the other hand....

As for emulators, Roms, etc... if it's for games that are no longer available, I say go for it. If it's for stuff that's still on the shelves (as new, used is a completely different thing) then there are some issues; it's essentially stealing.

[Druid]

I thrust my pelvis in your general direction.

[that guy]

I do it to play Japanese games. That is why I'm bothering to learn the language, after all.

[ShadowDeth]

Modding is a tool used in conjunction with piracy, and piracy is stealing. There really isn't any way to justify modding your playstation.

[JapaneseLever]

Modding is a tool used in conjunction with piracy, and piracy is stealing. There really isn't any way to justify modding your playstation.
unless.. you want to play games that are not specific to your region.. like nearly everyone on this thread said.

also, they can make excellent media devices. i use my laptop as a dvr and stream the video back to my t.v. when i want to watch something. screw tivo.

there.. no piracy mentioned.

[Decade]

That reminds me of one of the first family guy episodes when Peter taped a Patriots game. As soon as he tried to play it the Feds burst throught the door

"Do you have the expressed, WRITTEN consent of the NFL, ABC and the FCC?"
"...just ABC..."
:gangster: