Who's Bob Marley!?

[h2orowe]

Oh my god..... I just had my friend ask me... Who's Bob Marley.....


See what rap music does to today's youth! She's like 16 and didn't know who Bob Marley is!

[Firefly]

Thats pure insanity! Bah, kids and their music.

[Azrael]

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/08/24/mindset.list.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

BELOIT, Wisconsin (AP) -- For this year's crop of college freshmen, Starbucks has always been around the corner, "America's Funniest Home Videos" has always been on the air, and men named George Bush have been president for more than half of their lives.

Born in 1987, the freshmen attending their first college lectures around the country this term grew up with pay-per-view television and voice mail on their phones, dirty dancing at school proms, and the United States as the only superpower.

Those are some of the cultural landmarks on the Beloit College Mindset List, an annual compilation that offers a glimpse of the world view of each incoming class. The list was released Wednesday by the private school of 1,200 in this southern Wisconsin city.

The Class of 2009 has never known Andy Warhol, seen Jimmy Swaggart preach on TV, or watched Arsenio Hall.

Jimmy Carter? "That's just another name people throw around," said Abby Engebose, 18, who was going through orientation Tuesday on the school's 40-acre campus.

Technologically savvy, the students grew up with home computers, digital cameras, and souped up car stereos. Cable television has always been powerful and has blurred the lines between news and entertainment.

Like most of the men in his class, Joe Erkenbrack, 18, of Pella, Iowa, admitted that he didn't know how to tie a tie. He doesn't even own one.

The list reminds older generations what's happened in the last 18 years and aims to educate professors about the lives of their young students, said Tom McBride, a humanities professor at Beloit who has compiled the list for seven years.

"It reminds them that if they are going to teach Watergate, they have to explain what it is first," he said.

Ron Nief, the school's director of public affairs who helps edit the list, said it has practical uses -- branches of the Armed Forces and churches have used it in training young officers and ministers.

"It is a window into their lives," Nief said, emphasizing that the list is not meant to be a chronology of events.

Lizzie Starr, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, said one listing really hit home for her: that Boston has been working on the "Big Dig" road construction project her entire life. The 18-year-old said she used to take the bus to the airport to avoid driving through the city.

As for Starbucks, "they've been there as long as I can remember," said Leah Knowles, 17, of St. Paul, Minnesota, who drank her first Frappuccino in seventh grade.
This article made me feel kinda sad. ...And old.

[h2orowe]

Heh, if I graduate college 4 years right after High School, I'll be class of '12 so, I'm young too, but I still know my important figures in history, even though Bob Marley was a musician he was a fucking cool guy, that remembered his roots after he became famous and didn't let his fame go to his head, and he pretty much let himself die of foot cancer.
I know about watergate and such, but than again, I'm a nerd so I'd know this more than the average "Teen". It made me sick that she didn't know who Bob Marley is.

[JustTooCrazy]

Heh, if I graduate college 4 years right after High School, I'll be class of '12 so, I'm young too, but I still know my important figures in history, even though Bob Marley was a musician he was a fucking cool guy, that remembered his roots after he became famous and didn't let his fame go to his head, and he pretty much let himself die of foot cancer.
I know about watergate and such, but than again, I'm a nerd so I'd know this more than the average "Teen". It made me sick that she didn't know who Bob Marley is.
But i can say is we arent as young as D_Pad. But is 15 really that young? I dont feel very young, at least not child like.

[Azrael]

The thing is though, you never feel young. When I was 18, I knew I was still a teenager, but I thought myself to be somewhat aged and mature. I thought I had at least a handle on things.

Six years later, I know now I was still an inexperienced kid.

Even now at 24, I KNOW there's a lot of things I don't understand, but I don't think I could sit here and fire off a list for you. Probably another ten years down the line, I'll understand my fallacies at 24 a little better. But all I can do now is make the best of who I am now.

[JustTooCrazy]

The thing is though, you never feel young.

Yea i guess so. But i do miss my childhood. I cant believe im actually saying this...

[Arctic_Slicer]

Behold the society changing effect of the internet age.

[PopCulturePooka]

The first time I ever heard a teenager seriously ask me who Kurt Cobain was, I fel like murdering the precious little bitch. And she said she liked 'punk' music. Ha.


Good thing they never found the body. 'Runway' indeed.

[h2orowe]

Don't get me wrong, I love Nirvana, but like, I'd rather someone not know who Kurt was, than not know who Marley was. Marley was an actually like charitible guy or you know like he helped people out, while Kurt was just a selfish pussy who committed suicide and who's music is thought of as genre defining which is sub-par when compared to other bands in the same stupid "Grunge" genre, that label was weak. Alice in Chains is way better musically and vocally and lyricly than Nirvana, same with Soundgarden.

Still Bob Marley is someone I knew by like 3rd grade or so.

[spaik]

ok, if your friend doesn't know who bob marley is, i dont think they like rap or hiphop to begin with.

[h2orowe]

Yeah, Spaik, I think I know my friend more than you, and she does....

[Cluey]

Man, thats bad. It's like half the kids at my school dont know who Hendrix is, and then claim to like rock music.

FOOLS.

[Myrsilus]

I don't know if it is the same with where you are Cluey, but I get that a lot as well. In their defense, though, most of the people I've heard this from seem to only like the current rock (which I abhor with a passion). None really have any interest in older rock legends and their bands. Someone likes Linkin' Park, for example, and they do not even know what the hell Iron Maiden is. The person who knows who Hendrix is, however, knows what band performed "Run to the Hills".

Such circumstances are why many don't even know who Marley is. Sad, but true.

[h2orowe]

Pfft Maiden sucks, but Linkin Park is worse. I am a little bit of crappiness, and disregard for peoples ears and taste in music corrupting our youth into listening to shitty music.

[PopCulturePooka]

Pfft Maiden sucks, but Linkin Park is worse. I am a little bit of crappiness, and disregard for peoples ears and taste in music corrupting our youth into listening to shitty music.
Don't how you can judge music?
Don't you like... J-pop?

[h2orowe]

I like very little J-pop, I'm more into J-rock, and even than I only know like alot about the pillows, and no other bands. Hahaha, I didn't mean any offense to LP fans, it's just they're so played out on K-ROQ over here, I swear to god, back when that CD was first released (the second one or w/e the newest besides the Jay Z one) it was like everytime I got into my mom's car "I've become so numb", Phew that songs over, "Hey, welcome back to KROQ, LA and Orange County's only New Rock station, that was Linkin Park, and here's some more" Ahhhh!

I listen to Indie more than anything I guess, well maybe not Indie, I don't even know. -.-

[PopCulturePooka]

Hahah Linkin Park suck dead dogs nuts. Really.

But so does J-pop. Even though you don't like it, it sucks.
Its funny when the Japanophiles rag on american pop as 'mass produced crap' etc etc and then go all Japanophile on whatever little J-pop slut is big at the time.

[h2orowe]

Hahaha, yeah, I can put up with J-pop though to an extent, to me it's like watching stand up comedy, I love to see what ever band they're ripping off (or at least it seems) from America, there's like Destiny's Child-esque stuff, other shitty poppy stuff like that too, it's funny though, I find myself liking only certain songs by certain J-pop bands, like if you would've asked me what I thought about Orange Range before I heard *Asterisk* (Whatever it's called) I would've hocked a loogy on your face, but now that songs ok.

Oh my god, if you've ever heard Guitar Vader, they're good, but like I swear to god the song is the same exact thing for like 4 whole minuites.

[Arctic_Slicer]

Alot j-pop is crap and so is alot of music produced in North America or any other continent. Of course alot of there is lots of good j-pop as well as good music on every continent. Stereotypes are almost never true so it is usually not a very wise idea to go be making them. Most of the music I listen to lately is either OCR (ocremix.org) or my favorite Japanese band SunnyVale (http://www.sunnyvale-online.com/english/enter00.php).

[h2orowe]

I'm gonna check the OCR thing for Street Fighter music!

[Arctic_Slicer]

I'm gonna check the OCR thing for Street Fighter music!

There are a few good ones. It's actually surprising how much talent a remix community has. The most remixed game though is "Chrono Trigger" but can't blame as that game had an awesome soundtrack. You also might want to check out "Relics of the Chozo" (http://smproject.ocremix.org/) which is a complete remixed soundtrack of "Metroid 3" done by several of the regulars at OCR. It's awesome and I listen to it quite often.

[h2orowe]

Haha, Alright, I'll check it out later, I guess I'm playing pool now haha well online. -.- it's still fun!

[Tssss..]

i can't believe that. he's a legend. she must have at least heard a cover of one of his songs, right?

i feel really old. really old and cranky. and i'm only 21.

[Praetorian]

Don't worry. I'm 17 and I know who Bob Marley is (and like most of his songs to boot), I know what watergate is, and I own a tie (and would wear it too if people wouldn't think I'm a lunatic).

[kensei]

I talked to a girl who thought Jimi Hendrix was a drummer and had no idea who Eric Clapton is. Nothing like this surprises me anymore.

[StormShadow]

When I went to high-school, it was the trendy thing to do to where the t-shirts of old-school bands. I had this guy who was wearing a Led Zepplin shirt cause a ruckus, so I thought I bait him a little. He could not think of a single Zeplin song, despite his t-shirt. My parents made me grow with Pink, Led, and Jimi, as I never got to control the stereo in the car, and I am much better for it. And to the guy that said he was ok with Kurt Cobain being a little unkown.. Amen. I'm from Seattle, and there are lots better seattle grunge band. Eg. Mudhoney, Alice in chains, and Pearl Jam. They may have gotten the sound onto Mtv, but they didn't develope it, and they didn't master it.

[dome1984]

bob marley? isn't this the brother of marley marl? :P
buffalo souljaaah ..whatever im tired..

[sakana]

Hey, not all kids are morons. Im 15 and I know about Bob Marley, Jimmy Carter, Watergate, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and things like that. Just because most of them are complete morons doesn't mean all are.

[koku]

they quoted someone from Minnesota.

yes yes yeah.

[h2orowe]

Heh, I asked her if she knew the song "I shot the sherrif" and she said yeah. I bet she only heard the friggin Eric Clapton version, or the Marge Simpson version -.- .

[Tssss..]

hey, have you guys heard his son damians (sp?) music? i like it a lot. at first i thought he was just living off his dads fame, but when my boyfriend played the cd for me, it was pretty creative and it flowed really well.

[h2orowe]

Nah, I'm not that much into reggae, but I love whatever music I've heard of it, but I only like Bob Marley-esque/Toots and the Maytals-esque reggae, I don't like the rapping reggae or w/e it's called I think Soca or something.

[Niki07]

I had a friend once say she didn't know who Led Zeppelin was. I then made her listen to them every time she rode in my car. Then one day, I put a Zeppelin cd in and ask, "Do you know who this is?"... Her reply: "Guns N Roses?". Yeah...you betcha. A part of me died that day.

[Tssss..]

eh, it isn't necessarily a matter of the generation being stupid......i'm sure taste has something to do with it. they want their pop tartlets and digital recordings....*sighs over the loss of analog*