Should guys be allowed to hit girls.

[Renter]

Just checking how far equality reaches in this forum :P

Personally, I find hitting women to be uncool. Mostly because the physical difference is there in general(Disregarding single cases and martial arts training -- all bets are off then). But if a woman comes at me with intent of real damage, you bet your ass I won't be squeamish about it.

//edit1: I'm male, 22. CS Engineering student.

[Kaji]

You know, your 2nd and 4th options there can be construed the same way...

That said, I generally stop at restraining if there is any cause for physical actions of such a nature. No harm to them, no harm to me. If it came down to my life or knocking down a woman intent on taking it, however...

[akitaka]

While I don't like hitting period, if needed for physical defense, I'll apply locks/holds/shove the offender away and keep my distance.

Leaving marks is NOT good, on your position, when in court. Also the first person to ball up their fists (in defense or not) will have some trouble in getting on the good side of some jury/judges.

[ZaichikArky]

if a girl hits the guy first, then maybe. Not randomly. Society has rules about these kinds of things for a reason, unfair as it may be. lots of things are unfair for girls too : ).

[Praetorian]

Only in self defense. People should, in general, only hit in self defense. When I'm defending myself, I don't discriminate. I find that to be sexist. I've heard of plenty of feminists who argue that by not hitting a girl in self defense, or saying something to the effect of "I'd hit you if you were not a girl", you are actually implying that the woman in question is physically inferior to you.

This does not mean however that women should be able to just "slap away" at the slightest provocation, abusing the fact that men are less likely to slap you back. If you hurt me intentional for no good reason, you're going to walk away with a black eye, or you'll at least be restrained before I'll be contacting the police. Black or white, atheist or Christian, idiot or intellectual, male or female, I'd not discriminate. People are all human in my eyes, and I'm not playing favourites towards anyone.

I'd say that people that do play favourites annoy me.

In closing, I'd like to say that Chuck Norris once said...

Men are like steel. When they lose their temper, they lose their worth.

And we all know Chuck Norris is always right, except when I disagree with him.

[Idlethought]

Depends under the circumstances. Aside from a few, very few, circumstances, no I don't believe it's ok to hit a girl. And if I see someone hitting a girl that's not a girl, the temptation to beat them rises.

[Digital Masta]

There are two instances when a man should hit a girl:

1) Self defense

2) After receiving a shot to the balls...ALL bets are then off after that.

[Idlethought]

well if the chick is attacking someone else and shes beyond restraint then I think that's an ok instance to attack

[Cool Bones]

If she hits me, I hit her
Simple

And if she kicks me in the balls I'll kick her in the ovaries :D

[Decade]

:confused: What about if you didnt know it was a girl? Some lesbians go to great lengths to make sure you dont know.


Anyway, agree with whats already been said.

[Tungtvann]

In the case of domestic violence or whatever, no, never. But if a women is trying to punch the shit out of me or something, I'd whack her back. So dependant on the situation really. But then, I wouldn't hit anyone unless it was for a good reason. Male or female.

But actually, there is no 'allowed' about it. I'm not actually allowed to hit a guy, as that would be assault. So allowed is not the correct word to be using at all in this.

[Decade]

I think even in cases of self defense, a guys gonna have a hardtime afterwards as the mentality of "never hit a girl" is always in effect.

Yea, I punched that girl...cause she was beating the shit outta me :box:

Seriously, that's a hard one to talk about with the guys, or even family.

"Hey, remember that time that girl was beating the shit outta you?"
"...yea..."
"And then you punched her out..."
"...yea...:box:"

Regardless of the context, other people mostly just pay attention to the "And then you punched her out" part.

Sure, there's a rabid she-beast sometimes who goes after you who needs to be effectively punched in the ovaries, but it's just not culturally accepted. Even IF you want to make the self defense case, it's still uncomfortable as hell for any man to say or admit "I had to defend myself from a woman...:box:"

I'm not trying to be a male shovanist, I'm not even saying that women cant beat up men (hell, I've seen it before. Those bitches were Cah-RAY-Z!), but as men, it's just never gonna be a good situation when you have a "bad" kind of physical interaction with a woman.



And on a related note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-scCILT7NY&search=michelob%20commercial

[ShadowDeth]

Not only should they be allowed, they should be encouraged to do so.

Some women just won't learn unless you deal them a very painful physical lesson.

Before you judge me for my opinions, realize that I am just an empowered, modern thinking man who thinks all people should be treated equal regardless of race, gender color or creed.

Also, I hate my mother.

"I'm not trying to be a male shovanist, "

www.dictionary.com plz

[The_Penguin]

if a girl hits the guy first, then maybe. Not randomly. Society has rules about these kinds of things for a reason, unfair as it may be. lots of things are unfair for girls too : ).
That applies to all people regardless of sex.

[Praetorian]

www.dictionary.com plz


It's "please", look it up in the dictionary.

[Jay]

I voted yes.

That's all.

[paul]

Hm? its "chauvinist" in wherever I've seen it, although a quick google search says ALOT of people use "shovanist" lol, there was even a debate on one forum over this. But no dictionary I have actually has that in it.

[ShadowDeth]

It's "please", look it up in the dictionary.

You're not clever, try looking that one up.

[gyoza]

Only in self-defence.

Even then, I'm pretty sure I'd be squeamish about hitting a woman. It's less of a rational feeling than just a gut reaction I have to this sort of thing.

[Jay]

You're not clever, try looking that one up.

You're being obnoxious for the sake of it. Stop it.

[fa11en87]

Yup only in absolute self defense. There's such a strength difference between the two. Life is unfair=(

[Anubis Nine]

As far as hitting a woman goes there are certain boundaries. I'm a girl, and some women need a good slap. Be it from a man or another woman.

There's all this counter sexism that makes it really hard for guys. Girls expect to be treated equally and don't want to be treated equally when it means something bad. What this should be is.

Should anyone be allowed to hit anyone smaller or weaker than them.

The fact that a person is female means that chances are they are smaller and weaker. It's the sad truth.

I've been hit by guys before. I got into a fight with three males in school before. It wasn't fun and I came off badly.

Some girls will use this 'don't hit a girl' thing to their advantage.

There is only an unwritten rule stating that guys should not hit girls, but as long as they don't hit them hard enough to hurt them, it shouldn't be a problem.

Same goes for anyone smaller than you.

[gyoza]

(written with tongue firmly in cheek)

It's kinda like computers. I have a PC, and very limited patience. So I tend to hit it whenever it hangs (a lot). Then my PC broke for a while, and then I used my friend's Mac for some time. It malfunctioned a lot too, but I'd feel bad hitting something that looked so good. :D

[Praetorian]

You're not clever, try looking that one up.

It's never clever when you're the one getting ridiculed. For the rest though, ridiculing a spelling nazi who ironically uses l33tspeak is, indeed, clever.

[ShadowDeth]

It's never clever when you're the one getting ridiculed. For the rest though, ridiculing a spelling nazi who ironically uses l33tspeak is, indeed, clever.

Not really. You're just not clever.

Facetious use of something like that doesn't qualify as general use. I'm all about getting ridiculed, but your attempt wasn't clever and seemingly mis-guided.

Whether it's a language disconnect due to the fact I assume english isn't your first, or that you're just generally clueless is anyone's guess.

Edit - Also, a spelling nazi? I'm anything but. The issue is when someone tries to use a word with more than a few syllables, and utterly wrecks it - it reveals a lot more about their personality than a minor typo.

[Praetorian]

Not really. You're just not clever.

"Being clever" is in the eye of the beholder. When I see someone using "u" or "plz", my dipshit-detector immediately runs rampant. I admit that I did not know if your use of "plz" was facetious or not, because I have not payed any particular interest to your posts because frankly they did not seem all that interesting to me.

Edit - Also, a spelling nazi? I'm anything but. The issue is when someone tries to use a word with more than a few syllables, and utterly wrecks it - it reveals a lot more about their personality than a minor typo.

It slightly annoyed me too. In fact, I was even contemplating about correcting him, but I did not feel it was my place to be a gobshite about someone's spelling. Anyone can make mistakes, and just about everybody writes down a word phonetically from time to time, wether it be from fatigue or just general apathy. It does not say too much about his personality other than, at that moment, he did not know nor care about the correct way to spell that word. People that use leetspeak on the other hand annoy me to tears, and in their case it does tend to say something about their personality - namely that they couldn't care less about being comprehensible, and are generally dipshits. If you did feel the need to correct him, you could have done so over private message or in friendly way instead of trying to humiliate him.

This is where it ends. I'm not going to type more and derail this thread even further.

[h2orowe]

Not really. You're just not clever.
Actually, I thought it was.

[paul]

Well, you're obviously not.

[ShadowDeth]

"Being clever" is in the eye of the beholder. When I see someone using "u" or "plz", my dipshit-detector immediately runs rampant. I admit that I did not know if your use of "plz" was facetious or not, because I have not payed any particular interest to your posts because frankly they did not seem all that interesting to me.


Being clever is not in the eye of the beholder. It just depends on what your standards for it are. In your case it's painfully low, apparently, if something like "Look up plz in the dictionary" is your idea of gold.

Also, it's "paid" attention and not payed. You'd think someone trying to be clever over spelling would have it mastered. Right? Or is this just general fatigue or apathy speaking. Believe it or not, when people misspell common words it just shows they aren't that smart, or are trying to go beyond their capabilities. Likewise, it may be hard to believe - but when people go out of their way to try to ridicule someone and don't have the basics of subject at hand down, I find that very amusing.


It slightly annoyed me too. In fact, I was even contemplating about correcting him, but I did not feel it was my place to be a gobshite about someone's spelling. Anyone can make mistakes, and just about everybody writes down a word phonetically from time to time, wether it be from fatigue or just general apathy.

That's great, but I don't care? People who have their shit together don't use phonetics. It's noble of you to champion his cause, but since you seem to have a few issues with your own writing it's ultimately pointless.

Also, it's *whether*. Wether, to my best knowledge is a castrated ram. That word doesn't make sense in the context of your sentence. - That is what a true spelling Nazi would have brought up.

It does not say too much about his personality other than, at that moment, he did not know nor care about the correct way to spell that word. People that use leetspeak on the other hand annoy me to tears, and in their case it does tend to say something about their personality - namely that they couldn't care less about being comprehensible, and are generally dipshits.

I would beg to differ. Apathy towards writing says quite a bit about a person.

If you did feel the need to correct him, you could have done so over private message or in friendly way instead of trying to humiliate him.

Oh, ok. I understand now. It's not ok that I point out an extremely misspelled word, but it's alright if you try to come back at me for something you didn't understand?

It's all so clear to me now.

Anyways - back to hitting girls.

[Angelyne]

I voted "Never". Nothing wrong with physically restraining a girl in self-defense, but punching and hitting is just too far and cowardly.

[h2orowe]

I voted "Never". Nothing wrong with physically restraining a girl in self-defense, but punching and hitting is just too far and cowardly.
I agree with this.

[Kusoyaro]

My ex had a run-in with two chicks who started wailing in here and me, I knoked them out. I don't even give a shit about that equal treatment bullshit, it's an eye for ane eye, that's all. In RL, that is, no one can do shit online, haha...
I'm going to seem like a misogynistic fuck, but I don't think i am.

[Kwiz]

Violent force should never be used out of anger, and ideally it wouldn't be used at all. If anyone comes at me with the intent of harm - it shouldn't matter who they are, I will fend them off.

[Digital Masta]

I voted "Never". Nothing wrong with physically restraining a girl in self-defense, but punching and hitting is just too far and cowardly.

That will change if a girl starts boxing the shit outta your ass.

[Decade]

JESUS, when did a damn word make people go off topic, even when it's not a controversial one?

Ok, I spelt "shovanist" wrong, get over it. Seriously, of all places, do you expect to see perfect spelling and grammer on the INTERNET, where lol, l33t, and other embarresements of all languages run wild?

I appreciate people have stood up for me because someone was being an ass, but seriously, lets just move past it. If I'm the one originally "dissed" (sure, we can call it that) and not care, so can you.

Due to this thread, I have magically found reason to change my opinion on the matter, there are some women who deserve to be bitchsmacked and after everything thats been said, shadowdeath's at the top of the list.

Boo hoo, all I want is someone to just give me a better reasoning to or not find justification on the actual matter at hand.

[Jay]

embarresements

*embarrassments

*twitch*

[Decade]

woopsy what an embarassment :rolleyes:

[Jay]

Woopsy, what an embarrassment. :rolleyes:

Insert ten characters here.

[Decade]

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Feel free to fix that, and when you're done there's a spoon waiting on your desk you can use to eat my ass.

[Jay]

Fix it your damn self; you obviously know how to use grammar, as displayed in your proper sentence.

[悲しいパンダ]

"I'm not trying to be a male shovanist, "

www.dictionary.com plz

chauvinist:
chau·vin·ism
n.
1. Militant devotion to and glorification of one's country; fanatical patriotism.
2. Prejudiced belief in the superiority of one's own gender, group, or kind: “the chauvinism... of making extraterrestrial life in our own image” (Henry S.F. Cooper, Jr.).


A good slap sometimes is good when you want to get your friend to see what the are doing wrong or to get them back to reality.

[Decade]

Fix it your damn self; you obviously know how to use grammar, as displayed in your proper sentence.

kno :D

And that's where I leave it at. Keep eating, you only been spooning the crust.


Back to the matter at hand, I've heard both cases for when a woman starts hitting your girlfriend. Some guys say "Let the women fight it out, it's their fight," others say "You gotta defend her, that's YOUR woman." I dunno, I think I go with the latter, but what's the majority concensus on that specific case?

[Decade]

I like that mentality the best.

Unfortunately, not everybody abides by the rule

[six-eight-ten]

Hmmm... this is one of those questions where circumstances can make a huge difference. I've hit, kicked, thrown, and done restraining holds on a few of my ex-girlfriends. They never complained about it. It was during sparring sessions and other training at the martial arts school, and they've hit, kicked, thrown, etc. me, too. Outside of that context? Would depend on the circumstances.

[Destiny]

Some of my sempais here at the university, and I am talking about the nicest and least violent people ever, are members of the aikido club. When I asked why, why not some sport, I mean, I hardly remember seeing them angry, they responded, I never want to be in a situation where Id have to hit somebody to defend myself.

Peace people, remember teacher Yoda, fear leads to anger, anger leads to whatever, and whatever leads to the Dark Side (no, I cant quote star wars in the morning :P )

[MNJetter]

Hey, that's exactly why I was in aikido club. :)

I agree with the "nobody should be allowed to hit anybody" bit. I generally lose a lot of respect for people who use excessive force. But I wouldn't look down on a man who hit a woman in self defense. I mean, hell, there are woman murderers out there too. Are you willing to get yourself killed just to defend chivalry?

I'm all for being treated like a lady. I like men opening doors for me and whatnot. But it's one thing to be treated like a lady when you're acting like a lady, and another thing entirely to be treated like a lady when you're acting like an irate feline. I admire men who would take that kind of punishment and not hit. But I also think it's kind of silly. If someone is capable of it, woman or man, I really admire them if they defend themselves without hitting, but I realize not everybody is capable of it.

[TrendSeven]

Only if they're into that sort of thing... :eek:

[Neon Pink Shoehorn]

hmm...
when I was little, my sister beat me into a coma with a baseball bat... I would've really liked someone to come and smack some sense into her

[Angelyne]

That will change if a girl starts boxing the shit outta your ass.

You'd have to be pretty skinny and weak to not able to physically restrain a girl somehow. Grow some balls, and take the pain like a man.

Really, the only excuse for punching/hitting is if it's a serious life threatening situation, and some crazy bitch is coming after you with a weapon and the intent to kill. Throwing punches over a dumb argument is just inexcusable.

[Digital Masta]

You'd have to be pretty skinny and weak to not able to physically restrain a girl somehow. Grow some balls, and take the pain like a man.
.



That was an extreme example meaning that a girl who actually had experiencing boxing...was boxing the shit outta your ass.


Nobody said anything about hitting someone over a dumb argument.

[Overkongen]

Before I became a ninja, I would have struck a girl in self defence. Now, I'd do a muso dori on her.

[Snake eyeS]

If she starts fighting like a man, she better be prepared to get punched like a man. I ones made this rule when i got hit by a girl, at the time i didnt fight back, maybe because i was alone and she had 7 male friends around her and i was still young. but after that it never happened again, but im pretty sure i would trow the girl on the ground instead of punching her, its better to make fun of them by trowing them on the floor like a rag doll then it is to hit her K.O and then answer to the cops.

A year ago i was strolling trough the town and saw a guy beating his girlfriend for something small like not walking fast enough or some other crap, after he kicked her, within seconds 5 strangers took that guy out hardcore style, it was a great moment. so with that in mind, if you do decide to actually punch a girl, beware that other males might disagree with you.

[conners]

You'd have to be pretty skinny and weak to not able to physically restrain a girl somehow. Grow some balls, and take the pain like a man.

Really, the only excuse for punching/hitting is if it's a serious life threatening situation, and some crazy bitch is coming after you with a weapon and the intent to kill. Throwing punches over a dumb argument is just inexcusable.


Yes, I'm so weak. Us girls are just soooo weak. Ahhh, poor weak little china doll me.

Yeah right, after growing up with three brothers and ~11 years of ice hockey later I can take care of business.

That being said that kind of idiot gets into a punching, kicking, slapping fight anyways? Just tell the person off and go about your life.

[OliveButtercup]

My mom always told me "Don't put your hands on a man unless you're ready to get hit back". I agree with momma 100%. I think if you slap guy, expect him to slap you back. While I myself have never hit or slapped a guy, I would sucker punch one in self-defense. I may walk away with a black eye and less some teeth, but believe he's not coming out of the fight unscathed if he started it. Having said that, I'm a lover and not a fighter in most cases :kitty:

[crow-kun]

If any girls hits you just because she's being a bitch she deserves to be coldcocked and during any fight, during fights women are just dickless guys with large breast.

[ShadowDeth]

Yes, I'm so weak. Us girls are just soooo weak. Ahhh, poor weak little china doll me.

Yeah right, after growing up with three brothers and ~11 years of ice hockey later I can take care of business.

That being said that kind of idiot gets into a punching, kicking, slapping fight anyways? Just tell the person off and go about your life.

Get over yourself. I highly doubt the poster was referring to you specifically.

I agree with her 100% though, to reveal my true opinion. While you obviously have to judge situations on a case by case basis, women are mostly weaker than their male counterparts. This isn't really up for debate. Even if you claim you're some battle hardened girl who plays sports and blah blah, well i've played sports too. And I barely exercise, and i'm 5'10 but I guarantee I could still take you because there are fundamental differences in men and women's body types.

It's not insulting to recognize differences, I think it's empowering actually.

[FireWolf238]

depends on circumstances. anyone can do anything, there are quite alot of chicks that can beat the living shit out of the everage male, wimp. then there are also all the actions can be answered mostly by a good beating, here i'm refering to what i've seen guys do to each other and what i've done to some as well, non of those things are something a girl can't do. if i'll just about kill a guy for something, it would sexist of me not to beatr up a chick who does the same.

[FOBulous]

Spanking doesn't count right? Then, no, I wouldn't hit a girl. Although some girls I know have been close to tasting my palm.

[Collapse]

I'm all for equality. Unless a dire reason to hit a woman or another person is needed, I wouldn't go all out. For me, I'll just give a good grip on their arm or any kind of locking device to show I'm all business.

[Decade]

Collapse

You're making me REALLY impatient for Unreal 2007, that avvy looks AMAZING. I cant wait till it comes out on ps3


...so I can shoot girl players :gangster:

[timmyman]

I will gladly hit a girl, and I won't insult her by pulling my punches either; females deserves recognition.

Then again, most girls are about my size, so they have nothing to complain about.

[Decade]

Actually, for all the international members here, can you all enlighten us a little more on how hitting women is viewed in the country you're in? Obviously, I think in general it's not viewed any better, but is there varying degrees of what is acceptable that in the states we'd just say "That's fucked up?"

Or do you find the country you're in is even more conservative about the idea?

[Kass]

That depends. Did she ask him nicely to hit her? ;)

In self-defense, obviously yes.

[katsu]

this is some ghastly business you people are talking about... some of you mentioned Aikido, and I do Aikido. some of you spoke of the idea of using restraint holds, well... if you're going to try some thing like that, you will have to block the attack first, or else you will just look like a sloppy MMA fighter getting throttled wile attempting some take down. and a block can give your assailant anything from a Bruis to a compound fracture. but if the woman in question were to want to cause me serious damage... I would have to take that risk...

[Darkblade]

there are plenty of ways to immobilize someone without injuring them permanently. I wont hit a girl OR guy if Im able to restrain them. I dont get attacked often at all due to my physical appearance anyways, but for arguments sake:
1. if a she-hulk were attacking me, i would be obligated to defend myself.
2. I would knock out a guy or girl alike if it were in thier own best interest. example: they were drowning and Im trying to swim them back to shore and they wont stop panicking and is about to drown both our asses.
3. Although im not really into that sort of thing, I guess I could slap a womans ass (and pull her hair) if thats really what she wants, in non-threatening situations. :)

[katsu]

there are plenty of ways to immobilize someone without injuring them permanently. umm... yea... please do me the kindness of reading my above post. thanks.

[Darkblade]

umm... yea... please do me the kindness of reading my above post. thanks.

I read your post. my post was not in response to yours, but I did state "permanent" damage.

[Destiny]

I dont know really, come to think of it. In my country it was the very patriarchical (sp) society so it is in general considered more or less average for the under-educated men to hit women in the family. But on the other hand women in my country are tough chicks for the most part and it is not that easy. And nowadays it is considered really bad taste, like a guy would let himself be hit by a girl rather than hit back.

[katsu]

but I did state "permanent" damage.
good, if your going to try ANY of that stuff on the street, it's best not to kid your self.

[Snake eyeS]

You know how hard it is to cause permanent damage to anyone? everything goes away after a while, bruises, fractures, even gun and stab wounds will cure.. I've punched a guy knock out in 1 blow, it didnt cause him permanent harm. and that was the best i could do at that point without weapons, so closest i got to permanent harm was a k.o. martial arts might break a few bones if your strong enough, but id rather reley on my K.O. punch then some fancy dancing and tossing my oponent, fights need to be over as quickly as you can.

To answer the person who wanted an international opinion. I'm from the netherlands and our culture hardly differs from yours with the "smacking the girl" opinion. i think not hitting girls is more like a global thing.. atleast for the more western countries.

[Darkblade]

good, if your going to try ANY of that stuff on the street, it's best not to kid your self.

after 12 years of collegiate wrestling, 14 years of football, 8 years of Kenpo, 2 years of Kajukenbo and 4 years of military, Im not going to have a problem immobilizing someone if i have to. Im not speaking for anyone else, only myself.

and although it sounds cliché, Do or do not do. there is no try.

[katsu]

Snake eyeS, would, in your expert opinion, taring the ligaments in an opponent's shoulder cause permanent damage?

[Darkblade]

You know how hard it is to cause permanent damage to anyone?

yes, I do. permanent nerve damage and/or death is not "hard" if you know what you are doing.

[katsu]

after 12 years of collegiate wrestling, 14 years of football, 8 years of Kenpo, 2 years of Kajukenbo and 4 years of military, Im not going to have a problem immobilizing someone if i have to. Im not speaking for anyone else, only myself.

and although it sounds cliché, Do or do not do. there is no try.
yea... sounds like you know your shit... but you should know that immobilizing techniques can realy mess someone up... so once again you emphisized the right thing: "if i have to". so... much respect.

[marycatherine]

on the whole, no...never! But seriously, as a female, sometimes girls ask for it. I think if they start attacking first, and if they go psycho nuts...knock 'em down. I'm sure most men can just grab her by the shoulders or pin her up against a wall in a heartbeat and render her punches useless. I'm 5'4"...about 110 pounds...it doesn't take much to restrain me. That's why I'd really hate to see the guy that tried hitting me first. He's got no chance in court. Plenty of guys could bench press me. My size is another reason I'm really against the hitting thing. I've got no chance against him (I don't know self-defense and I'm not in great athletic shape).

that's my 2 cents,
Mary Catherine

[Darkblade]

... just grab her by the shoulders or pin her up against a wall in a heartbeat and render her punches useless.

Unfortunately, unless you are anticipating it and can block it with your shin, that is 99.99% likely to result in getting a kick or a knee square in the nuts.

[marycatherine]

...likely to result in getting a kick or a knee square in the nuts.

fair enough. How about someone just picking me up like a toy and tossing me over their shoulder...I know most guys can do it. I know it doesn't apply to everyone, but on the whole, for guys being bigger and/or stronger than girls...
It's really just a matter of who is obviously stronger than the other person, not really a gender thing. I'd be equally outraged if a larger/stronger girl did something like that to me. I like the phrase "pick on someone your own size" - makes for a fair match.

Mary Catherine

[Invisible]

I say yes, because of the need for equality. I'm not saying it's right to hit someone weaker than you, but if a person deserved to be punched, I'd punch them, regardless of what is or isn't between their legs. But the way society is now, even if I fought back against a girl who was equal with my size and strength, and I happened to win the fight, society would assume it's my fault because of the fact that she's a girl, weaker, and should be pitied, even if we were basically the same physically.

Either way, it comes down to whether a person deserves to be punched. I think that's rather subjective, but I think we can agree that in self-defense, it's alright to get rough. But of course, hitting someone weaker than you when they don't deserve it is wrong.

[Idlethought]

A lot of people have mentioned the circumstance "if she deserves it". Just out of curiosity what does everyone think is a circumstance deserving of either attack or retaliation? Because for some guys it could be something like talking out of turn whereas for a more tolerant guy it could be "she was coming at me with a knife". So yea, thoughts on that?

[Darkblade]

fair enough. How about someone just picking me up like a toy and tossing me over their shoulder...I know most guys can do it.

yeah that could work as long as you dont start elbowing the person behind the back of the neck or just below the shoulder blade. If you are as small as your posts lead me to believe, i could probably carry you around like a football.... kicking the air and screaming of course, but no one would get hurt
:D

[marycatherine]

yeah that could work as long as you dont start elbowing the person behind the back of the neck or just below the shoulder blade. If you are as small as your posts lead me to believe, i could probably carry you around like a football.... kicking the air and screaming of course, but no one would get hurt
:D


I just asked the guys here at work, and they said that was about accurate - no one would get hurt.

As for circumstances...I'm not one for physical violence unless I'm being attacked physically first...then I'll do what I can (even if it isn't much), I guess - never been attacked like that.

Mary Catherine

[AssButt.]

It's okay to hit a girl pretty much all the time. Supper isn't cooked perfectly? Five across the face will make sure that never happens again. Acting a little bitchy because of menstruation? Sometimes, a harder slap is necessary. You should only really use the knockout punch for special occasions, like when she denies you sex. Then she really deserves unconciousness.

[paul]

My friend does Kung Fu with a hot girl, she says if he doesn't do the best he can, she'll kick his ass.

[crow-kun]

A lot of people have mentioned the circumstance "if she deserves it". Just out of curiosity what does everyone think is a circumstance deserving of either attack or retaliation? Because for some guys it could be something like talking out of turn whereas for a more tolerant guy it could be "she was coming at me with a knife". So yea, thoughts on that?
If its verbal attack, no. Only if its physical.

[Snake eyeS]

just checked with my girlfriend about the original discussion: her opinion, always hit her back with an open hand, and dont show off your strenght, a stfu smack would suffice. (stfu = shut the fuck up)

I have to agree with her, if you want to cause real harm to a girl because she is attacking you, i do think you should consider that if your a good/strong fighter your attacks may cause alot more harm then her punches. give the same amount of harm as you recieve? sounds fair to me.

[katsu]

give the same amount of harm as you recieve? sounds fair to me.no. avoid rather than hurt, hurt rather than maim, maim rather than kill. THAT is fair. when attacked it is best to try to get out of it without getting hurt or hurting anybody else... but again, don't kid yourself to much.

[LJGroh]

It's okay to hit a girl pretty much all the time. Supper isn't cooked perfectly? Five across the face will make sure that never happens again. Acting a little bitchy because of menstruation? Sometimes, a harder slap is necessary. You should only really use the knockout punch for special occasions, like when she denies you sex. Then she really deserves unconciousness.

LoL. Good shit right there.

[BlackLiger]

Really, violence should be limited to self defence. however, ANYONE coming at me, with intent to cause damage, better be prepared for my return shot.