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Dead Sexy Vocab
02-14-2006, 04:45 AM
Discuss.

GO CANADA!!

Women's Ice Hockey Team! Wow, look at our blowout wins: 16-0 against Italy, 12-0 against Russia. Don't be too surprised to see us win each game with the gold by default. :D

Well, Canada's got 2 Medals already: Gold in Skiing, Bronze in Speed Skating.

Keep it up, Canada!

Anubis Nine
02-14-2006, 04:51 AM
If anyone saw the Ski jumping, and saw Jason Mysliki (He placed 41rst I believe) He's Canadian.

He was my little brother's ski jumping coach for a summer when the Nordic combined came around to gather kids good for ski-jumpers and take them to calgary for around a week and a half.

Pretty cool ne?

Dead Sexy Vocab
02-14-2006, 04:52 AM
That is AWESOME.

And one of my uncles went to school with Joe Sakic. :D

Masa the Masta
02-14-2006, 04:53 AM
Dear Michelle Kwan,


I just would like to say, I'm sorry for giving you that groin injury. I hope you recover soon, so we can get back to some more lovin'.


Signed,

Masa the Masta

P.S: Oh, I almost forgot. Sorry about the olympics.

Angelyne
02-14-2006, 05:09 AM
NBC should just rename it to "Torino Figure Skating", since that's what 90% of their "Olympics" coverage revolves around. If it isn't a figure skating event, it's figure skating practice, a clip of Michelle Kwan crying, or some fluff piece about figure skaters.

And if by some miracle they aren't showing something related to figure skating, then it's some sort of hype about Bode Miller [what makes this douchebag so special anyways?] or the "Flying Tomato".

I'm going to laugh when NBC starts crying about low ratings.

Kusoyaro
02-14-2006, 05:09 AM
Aha, I don't like the olympics. they don't have mma deatmatches, so i refuse to watch or listen to anything about it.

Masa the Masta
02-14-2006, 05:13 AM
Aha, I don't like the olympics. they don't have mma deatmatches, so i refuse to watch or listen to anything about it.

They ALMOST did.


Nancy Kerrigan and Tanya Harding or whatever. :clap:

Kusoyaro
02-14-2006, 05:19 AM
Oh yea, that fiasco. bloody sore losers.
where they killed by getting their faces run over by the skates of a a hockey team? they did?!
IRONY!!!

Kash
02-14-2006, 05:53 AM
Ladies Halfpipe rocked tonight!

But then, I live in snow country.

akitaka
02-14-2006, 06:08 AM
Speed-skating really had me hooked for some reason. Korea took home both Silver and Gold in the 1500 m.

I feel sorry for U.S.'s Apollo Ohno, but the guy got greedy when he tried to pass the lead man (China) in his qualifying race. He slipped, hit a track marker, and went down to 5th (failing the qualifying race).

Japan (4th and 6th place) was owning in the 500 meter, until they got passed up by Korea, Russian, and the U.S.A. (who took home gold).

ZaichikArky
02-14-2006, 09:07 PM
omfg I'm like the biggest Winter Olympics nut EVER. (#)^#*(^. I've been watching every single night from 8 till 11:30

Ok, so I'm SO SO proud of the Chinese couple last night for the pairs figure skating. The girl landed so HARD on her knee and was in so much pain! You could visibly see the bruising to her knee! I thought they were out for sure, but no they persevered and goe silver! They so deserved it! I'm happy that the Russians won, though. I do have some "home spirit". I was born in Russia and stuff.

Good job for the boys and girls on the US snowboard team. Go Flying Tomato. lol.

wtf about the US womens Hockey team. Man I feel so sorry for the other teams XD

Apollo, man you're dumb. You didn't have to try to claim first in that race! You were automatically going to the finals. Ugh. That was lame.

Men in downhill really suck

We need to STOP focusing on the Americans so much. Jeezus. We didn't even get to see any of the Japanese snowboard girls! The two of them didn't do *TOO* shabby, but all we saw were the Americans and some of their more close rivals. I think the Australian chick deserved bronze, btw...

My dad absolutely despises the coverage about the personal aspects. I like it. It just makes you want to root for certain atheletes, knowing all they went through to get them to the games. The Russian pair, the guy DROPPED his partner and she passed out. He really lost his confidence. Also about that Chinese figureskating coach.You'd never know about that otherwise. But they pulled together at the end.

BTW, about the complaint that figure skating is 90% of what they broadcast. That is a gross overstatement and absolutely not true. It's maybe 30% at most. Also, figure skating is THE definining olympic sport. Nothing is in the least as interesting as figure skating. I mean, it all looks the same! From jumping to the luge, to Bobsled. Who wants to watch a bunch of atheletes do the same thing? I sure don't. I skip watching most speedskating, and all the aforementioned stuff because it honestly is not interesting at all. Figureskating, though, I watch every freaken competition closely and intensely. I love it XD.

Go Norway. lol.

Lisa M
02-14-2006, 09:10 PM
The only sport I watch ever is wrestling.

During the Summer Olympics, they tend to show about two minutes of wrestling on TV during the ENTIRE OLYMPICS!

Seriously, WTF is up with that? Wrestling is so fun to watch!

Jay
02-14-2006, 09:10 PM
ZaichikArky... dude... calm down.

I'm interested in all the sports. The speed skating is pretty awesome to watch, so is aerial skiing and snowboard. I only wish Torah Bright's shoulder hadn't popped out halfway through her first run in the finals. She's a genuine medal contender. :(:(

Aside from that, Australia's sucking. Female luge... 24th. Female cross-country... 40-something... >_<

Methinks we should stick to the summer Olympics. :bang:

Masa the Masta
02-14-2006, 09:13 PM
The only sport I watch ever is wrestling.

During the Summer Olympics, they tend to show about two minutes of wrestling on TV during the ENTIRE OLYMPICS!

Seriously, WTF is up with that? Wrestling is so fun to watch!

Those are my sentiments on olympic Taekwondo.


Except they don't even show it at all. :bored:

Lisa M
02-14-2006, 09:25 PM
Seeing as the programming guide thing says it should be showing during 1-2 AM, with nothing else listed, and then it's on at like 3:27 AM, they might as well not show it at all.

Their reasoning for not giving it more spotlight time? "But no one watches what we do have, so obviously no one wants to watch it!"

Jay
02-14-2006, 09:27 PM
We have it on from 8:30pm to midnight, generally. I wish it wasn't just highlights. :(

akitaka
02-14-2006, 09:59 PM
TKD, Wrestling, and Judo are my focuses. I can't watch them because two of the three are usually on a digital cable line, which my housing does not have. Also, their hours are all peculiarly late.

If Beijing gets Wushu, they better have it on prime time. I want to see some GOOD chanquan sets. Not....Tennis.

Masa the Masta
02-14-2006, 10:27 PM
I like how Soccer is in the olympics.

Don't they have a world cup already? :bang:

And which would be a bigger prestige to win anyway?

NERD
02-14-2006, 10:35 PM
World Cup. Getting the gold in Olympics soccer just doesn't hold a candle to winning in the World Cup.

gyoza
02-15-2006, 01:42 AM
If I remember correctly, Olympics soccer is an U-21 event or somesuch, so it's some kind of youth version of the World Cup.

ZaichikArky
02-15-2006, 03:02 AM
ZaichikArky... dude... calm down.

I wasn't offended. Sorry if it seemed that way. You seemed a bit condescending towards figure skating, and I'm like REALLY into it. haah. I used like again.

Anyway, we all have our favorite sports, and we also have ones we hate. It's okay if you hate figure skating , although you really dont' seem to mind it that much XD. At the time, I just didn't want you to give people the wrong impression by saying it made up 90% of the coverage. That'd be really funny. But I'm sure most people aren't ignorant and get that your statement was sarcastic. hehe.

paul
02-15-2006, 03:35 AM
Who was it? norway? thats kicking ass with loads of medals.

ZaichikArky
02-15-2006, 03:41 AM
Who was it? norway? thats kicking ass with loads of medals.

norway of course! they pwn in EVERY single winter olympics.

Shamu
02-15-2006, 03:46 AM
I haven't been watching the Winter Olympics, I tend to prefer the summer games, but I hope the US does well!
For summer games, being an equestrian, I like to watch the 3-day eventing!
Nothing like watching people speeding twords a brick wall or a drop jump into the water at 35 mph on a 1/2 ton animal and praying to god every second that that horse clears that jump!
Sometimes they don't (that's how Christopher Reeve got hurt) and you see these horrible falls where the rider is laying there on the ground rolling around and the horse is just standing there eating the grass and looking at the rider like "what? you fuckin' expected me to jump over that? You jump over it, fucktard!". I just sit there and think, been there, done that and my horse looks at me the same way...

Anyways, GO USA!!!!

Angelyne
02-15-2006, 07:08 AM
Figure skating is only 30% of Olympic coverage? That's generous. Look at the coverage from yesterday: it was figure skating, Bode Miller being a douche, a handful of skiers with actual skill, and one or two speed skating races. Out of all the sports and athletes that were filmed yesterday, that is the best NBC has to offer?

I just don't understand why they need to show fluff stories and footage from figure skating practice when there are real sports and international athletes that are far more interesting.





Then again, I don't consider figure skating a real sport to begin with. :stirthepo: :stirthepo :stirthepo

Hira-Kata to Sawa
02-15-2006, 09:13 AM
It's funny to watch the news in Japan...they went on and on about how their snowboarders were gonna kick ass and they did terrible!! And now every day they spend 40 minutes talking about the heart-wrenching background behind EVERY SINGLE Japanese athlete. Come on. Not to mention the "Japan still doesn't have any medals yet". They sound so sad when they say it...

Kusoyaro
02-15-2006, 09:19 AM
Maybe if the prize was used schoolgirls' panties

ZaichikArky
02-15-2006, 09:37 AM
Figure skating is only 30% of Olympic coverage? That's generous. Look at the coverage from yesterday: it was figure skating, Bode Miller being a douche, a handful of skiers with actual skill, and one or two speed skating races. Out of all the sports and athletes that were filmed yesterday, that is the best NBC has to offer?

I just don't understand why they need to show fluff stories and footage from figure skating practice when there are real sports and international athletes that are far more interesting.

Then again, I don't consider figure skating a real sport to begin with. :stirthepo: :stirthepo :stirthepo

Well... ok. Consider how much time NBC allocates to the ACTUAL figure skating compared to everything else. The thing is, figure skating is the most popular sport... they need to give it slightly more coverage. They still show all kinds of stuff... even crap like curling(no offense to any fans of this 0_o). With figure skating, there is a much greater emphasis on international atheletes. The Russians especially. I personally thought the Chinese story was quite touching. I like this kind of fluff. that's just me... some hate it. I like seeing tales of tragedy and ultimate victory. It just gives a personal perspective on things and it really appeals to many people, especially women who otherwise wouldn't be interested in men/women skating/skiing around in tight suits.

I do agree that we need some more international coverage, but this is the US of A. We like to show OUR atheletes so we can be proud of OUR country... and all in good time, too... because our atheletes win tons of metals. We do show other atheletes, I must say we do a decent job of it. I mean, we show the better atheletes, obviously not the worse ones.

Oh please don't say figure skating is not a sport >_<. It is hands down THE most difficult sport in the Olympics. Atheletes are rugged and train since they're like 5 years old or less for a shot to the gold... problem is, it's a rather elitist sport. it costs tons of money to be nationally acclaimed. If you want to argue about things being a sport, look at curling. I don't understand why that crap is in the olympics... but hey, to each his own. Some people may love curling... (psychos! :p. Just kidding).

I understand why some people are fed up with figure skating, and I'm not trying to rag on anyone. I'm just like a die-hard huge fan of it. heh. I guess no one noticed yet, eh? :innocent:

As for the coverage on Tuesday night... I actually didn't watch most of it tonight. Watched House instead. I made sure to see Puchenko(probably spelled wrong). And he was enough to make a fool out of any other male figure skater in the short program, so this was good enough for me ^_^*. I think Monday night's coverage was a lot more interesting... like there was the women's half pipe which was awsome, and the finale to the pairs short program. Go Chinese team <3.

yeaaaah... that's all I have to rant about for now. Once again, no hard feelings, plzzz. I'm not trying to offend anyone... at least not yet. lol.

gyoza
02-15-2006, 10:07 AM
Um, I don't know much about winter sports so what's curling? Is it that janitor sport thing where some guy pushes a huge puck and two guys sweep the floor in front of it?

Azrael
02-15-2006, 10:19 AM
^I dunno either. I just know that there's a blonde Russian female curler that is OMG hot. Like, I wanna move to Russia and curl if it meant I could meet girls that looked like her hot.

Oh, and I can't have been the only one to notice that China's female speed skater's name is Manli Wang. ...Manli Wang. That's beyond awesome.

gyoza
02-15-2006, 10:41 AM
LOL!

I didn't notice it because the 'man' in 'Manli' is pronounced as an 'ahh' rather than an 'eh'. It's an unfortunate coincidence that so many Chinese last names mean something naughty in English... Ho, Gay, Hung, Wang, Thong, etc.

MeneerDijk
02-15-2006, 12:00 PM
Ahh the Olympics, this is the first year i'm really following it very closely. I've watched all the skating events for male and females and even some alpine skiing and cross country, and ofcourse the halfpipe snowboarding. I can't wait for the longer skating races because that's usually where the Dutch excel.

so GO HOLLAND!

p.s. O h yeah i noticed Manli Wang too... I kept snickering while the Dutch commentators said: Wang is going hard (fast in Dutch) XD

Sock Full of Boiled Dimes
02-15-2006, 12:18 PM
We need to STOP focusing on the Americans so much. Jeezus. We didn't even get to see any of the Japanese snowboard girls! The two of them didn't do *TOO* shabby, but all we saw were the Americans and some of their more close rivals. I think the Australian chick deserved bronze, btw...


Uhhh...

I assume you live in the US right? There is pretty much going to be focused ONLY on the United States and a bit on other countries if they happen to do very well, but mostly the US. You know why?

Becuase we live in the US. Not Japan. If we lived in Japan I'm sure they would focus on their players.

Their really crappy players.

ZaichikArky
02-15-2006, 04:36 PM
Uhhh...

I assume you live in the US right? There is pretty much going to be focused ONLY on the United States and a bit on other countries if they happen to do very well, but mostly the US. You know why?

Becuase we live in the US. Not Japan. If we lived in Japan I'm sure they would focus on their players.

Their really crappy players.

That's true... but see, unlike Japanese atheletes American atheletes are actually very good XD. At least, the ones we focus on. We do focus on them for a reason. It was okay that we focused on the Americans during the snowboard competitions. I mean, both teams took gold and silver... no sweep, but that's ok.

It's normal for the country to focus on their atheletes, even if they actually end up doing shabby, national pride thing....but it's not okay to not even SHOW the better atheletes >_<. NBC actually doesn't do that too much, but when it does it annoys me.

Jay
02-15-2006, 05:17 PM
I think the Australian chick deserved bronze, btw...

You're right, she did deserve a medal. One more point and she would have claimed bronze, I don't think she realised because she played it safe. :( I think if her shoulder hadn't popped out in her first run she would have been a gold medal challenger.

Anyway, that's yesterday's news. What about the 82nd placed Australian in the biathlon? That's just... pathetic. Stick to the summer Olympics, guys.

Masa the Masta
02-15-2006, 05:20 PM
This reminds me of Lewis Black.

"BJ's should be an olympic sport. For one, it's better than curling, and two, if you're any good at it, you deserve a fucking medal."

Angelyne
02-15-2006, 07:15 PM
I never said figure skating wasn't physically demanding or hard. I just don't think it belongs in the Olympics.

I don't consider anything that has to be scored by judges to be a "sport". We've already seen what kind of problems come from this type of scoring system. At least curling's outcome is based entirely on skill and teamwork, and there's a clearcut winner. You don't need to be judged by someone who might be biased, bribed, or just incompetent in general.

It's not to say stuff like figure skating, synchronized swimming, and ballroom dancing [becoming an olympic sport in '08] are easy; just keep them in their own circuits and don't lump them with true sports at the Olympics. The only reason any of these pseudo-sports were added to the Olympics and called a "sport" is purely because they bring in ratings and money.

Jay
02-15-2006, 07:18 PM
Actually, figure skating and synchronised swimming have certain moves that one has to observe, and when you have two or more people competing to be the best at that given move it instantly becomes a sport.

Leave 'em alone.

ZaichikArky
02-15-2006, 07:35 PM
Actually, figure skating and synchronised swimming have certain moves that one has to observe, and when you have two or more people competing to be the best at that given move it instantly becomes a sport.

Leave 'em alone.


Agree. Think of all the summer sports that would be out, then. I actually despise the summer olympics. I'm sure they're great for some people but I find every single sport in it incredibly boring... except maybe badminton, and that's because I play it.

We can agree to disagree. my dad thinks hockey should be eliminated. All sports in the olympics require judges. Most of the time, even with figure skating, a clear cut winner is always determined. They updated the figure skating judging system(something NBC states CONSTATNLY) so that it would be damn hard to have another scandal. Last year, the Canadians out performed the Russians, but by a relatively small margin. This year, the chinese pair fell and had to halt their performance because the girl was just hurt so badly. They still continued and got silver. So... I don't know. It's fine if you think figure skating shouldn't be in the Olympics. I guess it is different than most competitive sports. It IS a competitive sport, though, we mustn't forget that : ).

Jay
02-15-2006, 07:41 PM
I guess it is different than most competitive sports. It IS a competitive sport, though, we mustn't forget that : ).

That's right. You could have paint-drying competitions in the Olympics for all I care, but so long as two or more people want to compete to see whose paint dries fastest, it's a sport.

............................Okay, maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration.

Point is, if it's a competitive sport it should be allowed. End of story.

(Incidentally, NO ONE'S catching Russian figure skater Evgeny Plushenko. :eyepop: )

ZaichikArky
02-15-2006, 07:51 PM
(Incidentally, NO ONE'S catching Russian figure skater Evgeny Plushenko. )


Yeaaah. I'm proud of him. I'll also be rooting for Irina come her turn. Surprisingly a Russian woman has NEVER won gold!

Jay
02-15-2006, 07:52 PM
That IS pretty surprising.

We've got a female figure skater, Joanne Carter, so obviously I'll be backing her. :D

Crowley
02-15-2006, 10:06 PM
Ok, so I'm SO SO proud of the Chinese couple last night for the pairs figure skating. The girl landed so HARD on her knee and was in so much pain! You could visibly see the bruising to her knee! I thought they were out for sure, but no they persevered and goe silver! They so deserved it!

That was SO inspirational. That girl is so massively brave, I was struck dumb.

Angelyne
02-16-2006, 12:39 AM
The only reason the Olympics updated their figure skating judging system is because the bias and bribes were made public. If they actually cared about making it fair, they would have fixed it a long time ago AND updated the scoring system of any other judged event. And even though the figure skating scoring system has been improved doesn't mean that it doesn't have it's flaws and room for bias.

[I'm talking about events where the score is based purely on judging. Obviously, refereeing is needed to enforce rules, and doesn't directly affect the outcome of the game]

And if sports are going to be defined purely as a competition, then we might as well add beauty pagents, Monopoly, marching band, watermelon seed spitting, and cheerleading as Olympic events. The Olympic commitee needs to make up some guidelines, actually stick to them them, and not let ratings and money make the decisions for them. This is how we end up with ballroom dancing being an Olympic sport, and not bowling or golf.

Back to studying :bang:

Digital Masta
02-16-2006, 12:50 AM
Discuss.

GO CANADA!!

Women's Ice Hockey Team! Wow, look at our blowout wins: 16-0 against Italy, 12-0 against Russia. Don't be too surprised to see us win each game with the gold by default. :D


They said that about the USA basketball team....and look what happened to them.

Plus your Canada and its Hockey...WTF do you expect?

BUT I SAY AGAIN....

Thats what they said about the USA basketball team as well.


Um, I don't know much about winter sports so what's curling? Is it that janitor sport thing where some guy pushes a huge puck and two guys sweep the floor in front of it?

I JUST SAW THAT THING FOR THE FIRST TIME YESTERDAY....I was sitting there like "Are they sweeping"...I don't get the objective of curling....the USA needs to pool their janitors together so we can own that event.


I don't understand why that crap is in the olympics... but hey, to each his own. Some people may love curling... (psychos! :p. Just kidding).

That is why the clever word "event" is used....cause not everything in the Olympics is a "sport" by the common thought of a sport.

Dead Sexy Vocab
02-16-2006, 01:27 AM
I don't know. The Men's Hockey team also thrashed up Italy.

But I would keep that in mind. See if they'll fair against US.

ZaichikArky
02-16-2006, 02:02 AM
The only reason the Olympics updated their figure skating judging system is because the bias and bribes were made public. If they actually cared about making it fair, they would have fixed it a long time ago AND updated the scoring system of any other judged event. And even though the figure skating scoring system has been improved doesn't mean that it doesn't have it's flaws and room for bias.

[I'm talking about events where the score is based purely on judging. Obviously, refereeing is needed to enforce rules, and doesn't directly affect the outcome of the game]

And if sports are going to be defined purely as a competition, then we might as well add beauty pagents, Monopoly, marching band, watermelon seed spitting, and cheerleading as Olympic events. The Olympic commitee needs to make up some guidelines, actually stick to them them, and not let ratings and money make the decisions for them. This is how we end up with ballroom dancing being an Olympic sport, and not bowling or golf.

Back to studying :bang:

omg more trashtalk! Haha. Yeah, I get what you're saying. However, figure skating is a true, respectable sport. spitting watermellon seeds, unfortunately isn't. What is the definition of a true "sport". I mean, it's a concept that is argued a lot, I think. Is cheerleading a real sport? Maybe it is. that is the classic example. I don't know. The atheletes train physically for years, they're true atheletes, they compete... the stuff you mentioned, honestly don't require that. Bowling and golf may someday be olympic sports, however for now it's okay just to have tournaments for that. I would disagree with bowling, but golf maybe. I just don't think that you need to be an athelete to bowl, golf, or curl. You can just be good in aiming balls/pucks certain places...

So we can argue all we want about what should and shouldn't be in the Olympics. It's rather silly. Debate is fun, however. : ).

My opinions: curling get the hell out

everything else as far as I know is fine in both summer and winter Olympics and deserves to be there.

Digital Masta
02-16-2006, 02:46 AM
Dancers train a ridiculous amount and a lot are in as good if not better shape than atheletes but competitive dancing is not a sport.

I look at figure skating as dancing...except on ice.


I would disagree with bowling, but golf maybe. I just don't think that you need to be an athelete to bowl, golf, or curl. You can just be good in aiming balls/pucks certain places...

An athelete is someone who possess the neccesary skills to play a sport thats it. Your trying to "pretty up" what an athlete is just to suit your defintion.

To be good at Golf requires YEARS UPON YEARS of training...and its not easy.

ZaichikArky
02-16-2006, 02:48 AM
Dancers train a ridiculous amount and a lot are in as good if not better shape than atheletes but competitive dancing is not a sport.

I look a figure skating as dancing...except on ice.

Nicely said. I support dancing being an olympic sport as well. It's very entertaining to watch too.

gyoza
02-16-2006, 04:33 AM
To be good at Golf requires YEARS UPON YEARS of training...and its not easy.

Yup. It's deceptively difficult to hit the ball for long distances.

Jay
02-16-2006, 01:35 PM
Well, we finally won a gold at the hands of a naturalxised Australian in the moguls. I was so excited when I heard it, but during the day I saw the run itself about three times. Pity if I wanted to watch it on the actual coverage, eh? :rolleyes:

Fuckin media.

Still, it's a gold we didn't have before so I'll take it. :D

Trump
02-16-2006, 02:26 PM
Taken from dictionary.com:
Sport: An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

Golf, bowling, watermelon seed spitting and other activies do not require physical exertion. Therefore they are not a sport. I suppose if you consider toting a bag of golf clubs around to be physical exertion then golf is a sport, but when compared to skiing, sprinting, ice skating, or even ballroom dancing that looks like a cake walk.

It doesn't really matter though, it's just the same people competing in the same events just on a different stage. The skiers, skaters, racers, dancers are all the same ones from the world cup events (or whatever else they do). They just seem to make a bigger deal about the olympics.

Jay
02-16-2006, 02:27 PM
Golf, bowling, watermelon seed spitting and other activies do not require physical exertion.

Would you care to make a bet?

kyaa the catlord
02-16-2006, 02:44 PM
Would you care to make a bet?

Jay is right. I've golfed, if you do it right, you're sore for days in places you didn't know you had muscles and thingies. Those thingies make you pay for it.

Jay
02-16-2006, 02:46 PM
I've bowled as well, Trump, and you will NOT tell me that you don't need to exert yourself physically to bowl.

Trump
02-16-2006, 03:00 PM
I've been bowling, ice skating, sking, and golfing before. I can tell you for a fact skiing and ice skating take 100x more exertion, energy, and endurance than bowling and golf. I'm not saying golf won't make you sore, but playing computer games can make your wrist sore too. Given the same reasoning, you saying playing computer games involves physical exertion. I'm not saying golf and bowling do not take excellent motor control, accuracy, and precision (they do, the people who are very good at those activities really amaze me), but that doesn't make them sports. They are just games.

Azrael
02-16-2006, 03:06 PM
Japan still doesn't have any medals. Not a one. I think they're kind of giving up on the other events and focusing all their energies on ladies figure skating. ...Which is what they were doing anyway, now they just have an excuse to do so.

I think Japan's gonna fail at that too. I kinda want them to. I really dislike Miki Andoh. ...And I know it's a dislike born from her over-exposure on TV, which isn't even her fault, but oh well.

If Japan doesn't get any medals, you KNOW they will run with the "look how sad/pitiable we are" angle.

Jay
02-16-2006, 03:11 PM
The dictionary defines sport as an activity involving physical exertion, as you pointed out, Trump. Are you telling me golf and bowling don't require physical extertion?

If you say yes, you'll be wrong.

It's not simply the physical extertion that makes something a sport - it's more the fact of having two or more people competing to be the best. If you have competition combined with physical extertion, as golf and bowling have, then it's a sport. Simple as that.

Perhaps the dictionary needs to be updated?

I can tell you for a fact skiing and ice skating take 100x more exertion, energy, and endurance than bowling and golf.

So... what you're trying to tell me is that if a certain activity doesn't reach a certain level of physical exertion you shouldn't term it a sport?

Zensouken
02-16-2006, 03:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIMYRAKZKyk&search=olympic

This is hilarious...

gyoza
02-16-2006, 03:33 PM
That is awesome.

Jay
02-16-2006, 03:51 PM
Haha! That's brilliant!

I'd vote for that to be an Olympic sport.

conners
02-16-2006, 04:08 PM
The dictionary defines sport as an activity involving physical exertion, as you pointed out, Trump. Are you telling me golf and bowling don't require physical extertion?

If you say yes, you'll be wrong.

It's not simply the physical extertion that makes something a sport - it's more the fact of having two or more people competing to be the best. If you have competition combined with physical extertion, as golf and bowling have, then it's a sport. Simple as that.

Perhaps the dictionary needs to be updated?



So... what you're trying to tell me is that if a certain activity doesn't reach a certain level of physical exertion you shouldn't term it a sport?

To paraphrase Hemingway (I think it was Hemingway):
It is not a sport unless there is a fair chance of you dying. Unless you have one of those caddyshack gophers, odds are you will walk off the golf course alive. Of course in 12 years of hockey the worst I got was a broken leg, so meh.

Jay
02-16-2006, 04:16 PM
In golf you have a risk of dying. You could slice the ball into a member of the crowd or a fellow competitor. In bowling you could die if someone lets go of the ball on backswing and it hits you.

Hell, you could even choke on a watermelon seed! :P

conners
02-16-2006, 04:20 PM
That have to be a helluva slice. I think the closet I every came to dying in golf was climbing the waterfall at the putt-putt course. Fun times, until they threw us out :(.

Jay
02-16-2006, 04:22 PM
Heh! I remember being inside the castle on the mini golf course. Was fun grabbing other peoples' balls as they came through. XD

You know when a golfer lands a ball on the fairway and the crowd gather round him? If he sliced it into a member of the crowd - or hooked it, even - and it hit one in the neck, or head or something, then sure, there's a risk of dying.

ZaichikArky
02-16-2006, 04:30 PM
I think Japan's gonna fail at that too. I kinda want them to. I really dislike Miki Andoh. ...And I know it's a dislike born from her over-exposure on TV, which isn't even her fault, but oh well.

So how many times do they mention that other little girl. The one who couldn't make it to the Olympics because she was a few months shy her 16th birthday? If Andoh loses, as she probably will to Irina and some US girl, Japan will probably complain some more about their prize girl not being allowed into the Olympics. haaa.

Azrael
02-16-2006, 04:43 PM
^Actually, Mao (?) gets no press. The Japanese were kind of like "Oh well, that's too bad, try again 4 years later" and that was the end of the story. My mom is a big figure skating fan, and she tells me that while the panel said no, the feeling was like "but, maybe if you guys (Japan) appealed it..." Didn't happen of course.

Japan decided somewhere along the lines that Miki Andoh was their poster child, and that was the end of the story. Their other two skaters are, as far as I can tell, better than Andoh, but they are almost little more than an afterthought.

Trump
02-16-2006, 10:24 PM
So do you actually break a sweat when you go bowling?

Dead Sexy Vocab
02-16-2006, 11:42 PM
Well, we finally won a gold at the hands of a naturalxised Australian in the moguls. I was so excited when I heard it, but during the day I saw the run itself about three times. Pity if I wanted to watch it on the actual coverage, eh? :rolleyes:

Pity, though, that Australian that won Gold is actually a CANADIAN. :blank:

I guess he hates his own country, eh.

Masa the Masta
02-17-2006, 12:26 AM
So do you actually break a sweat when you go bowling?

C'mon dude, just try bowling for 3 hours non-stop.

I swear, not even all the masturbation muscles I gained in my right arm from the ages of 13-16 I worked on could not suffice. I was sore on my right arm the next day.

Kaey
02-17-2006, 12:32 AM
Hmm.. Norway's got like, 13 medals total, leading in that regard, but only one gold :bang:
Oh well, go us :clap:

edit: check out these 2 clips as well, in addition to the one already posted above:
http://www.trojangames.com/video_highlights.shtml

ZaichikArky
02-17-2006, 04:36 AM
questions- what the hell does wier say?

and what do you think about snowboard cross?

yes.

Hira-Kata to Sawa
02-17-2006, 06:43 AM
Sooo.....dancing is a sport, but we gotta drop baseball and softball for it?? I say hell no. I wanna see caber tossing instead. And if dancing is a must, make it breakdance.

Kusoyaro
02-17-2006, 07:51 AM
Emanuel Sandhu is so fucking hot.

Dead Sexy Vocab
02-17-2006, 08:11 AM
He is my Kindergarten teacher's nephew.

Kusoyaro
02-17-2006, 09:31 AM
What? Emanual Sandhu?!!?!?!?!?!?
AHh...!!!!! Oh man, I want him so bad!!!
Ask you kind. teacher to hook me up with him

Dead Sexy Vocab
02-17-2006, 11:37 PM
Not unless you hook me up with Colin Mochrie first.

Why?

FUCK YOU, THAT'S WHY!

Digital Masta
02-18-2006, 12:01 AM
I've been bowling, ice skating, sking, and golfing before. I can tell you for a fact skiing and ice skating take 100x more exertion, energy, and endurance than bowling and golf. I'm not saying golf won't make you sore, but playing computer games can make your wrist sore too. Given the same reasoning, you saying playing computer games involves physical exertion. I'm not saying golf and bowling do not take excellent motor control, accuracy, and precision (they do, the people who are very good at those activities really amaze me), but that doesn't make them sports. They are just games.


You forgot the other defintion:


Sport:

Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

Exertion:

The act or an instance of exerting, especially a strenuous effort.

exert:

To put to use or effect; put forth: exerted all my strength to move the box.
To bring to bear; exercise: exert influence.
To put (oneself) to strenuous effort: exerted ourselves mightily to raise funds.


By those defintions....Golf and bowling...are sports...exert can be used in a strenuous matter...but it really simply means "to use"

You've never played 18 holes...you may have gone to the range...but play 18 holes of Golf...its gonna be hot cause Golf is only played when/where it is hot...and go ahead and walk 18 holes (the pros walk) in the blistering sun, up hill, down hill all the while trying your best to keep your swing perfect everytime.

My dad will go out and play and come home drenched in sweat and he's exhausted. I've played 18 holes it is very tiring.

Clearly there is something more to deciding what is a sport or not. Also you can't judge whats a sport based on how much energy you use when compared to another sport.

Then you could say "well you use more energy in soccer so therefore its more of a sport than basketball"

Masa the Masta
02-18-2006, 11:18 PM
I was watching the Hockey game between Slovakia and the U.S.

No wonder Slovakia won, they have "Satan" on their team. :P

kyaa the catlord
02-19-2006, 07:17 AM
Hmmm, Japanese women's curling team. Hmmmm. Sounds yummy.

Dead Sexy Vocab
02-19-2006, 09:56 AM
Shit, Canada's Men's Hockey team lost to Switzerland.

Sbabbari
02-19-2006, 03:14 PM
I was just watching the Japanese women's curling team the other night, and apparently theres a movie based on these women who hail from Hokkaido. I also realized that although i realize curling probably takes a lot of skill and practice like any other sport, i still think that any sport involving brooms and teapots is a joke.

Jay
02-19-2006, 03:30 PM
Pity, though, that Australian that won Gold is actually a CANADIAN. :blank:

I guess he hates his own country, eh.

Yeah, we have all the migrants from Europe and the Americas to win all our shit because us actual Aussies are too useless to. XD

I don't care, gold's a gold, I'll take it any way it comes.