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TheLostProphet
08-23-2005, 06:50 PM
*snip*

Old message!

CNagy
08-23-2005, 06:52 PM
Man, I'm sorry to hear that you've been totally fucked with by those women. Don't let it keep you down too long, though, and don't let it taint your outlook on women in general. There are good ones out there, you just have to find them.

LJustus
08-23-2005, 06:59 PM
tl; dr

Based on the thread title, I will offer the following:


Every romantic relationship, except maybe one, you ever have will end - probably badly
"Life sucks. Get a helmet." - Dennis Leary

tekkan
08-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Ya, it is a sad truth. Physical attraction does play some part in it.

For example, you're not gonna say to your buddies at the bar, Hey I think I'm gonna go talk to the average looking girl who is slightly overweight. No, you're gonna say, Hey see that hot red head over there? I'm gonna go talk to her.

Most of the time, it physical attraction first and then emotional attraction.

Also with the younger people, alot of the times they are after a trophy girlfriend or boyfriend. Someone they can show off. It a sad part of life. Though I can't really seperate myself from it since I am guilty some of the crimes I point out.

I guess you just have to keep trying till you get the right one eh?

Jay
08-23-2005, 07:05 PM
Women are 100% evil. 110%, if possible.

But don't lose faith, buddy. I got screwed over by a chick who was putting the moves on. When I made a move on her she totally backed out and used the old long-distance relationship line. It hurt. It still hurts. It's always gonna hurt and I'm always gonna kick myself for getting sucked in, but DON'T GIVE UP. They're not all bad. :)

tekkan
08-23-2005, 07:11 PM
Don't let her break your confidence.

Don't doubt yourself now. Just keep walking and don't look back.

If you lose confidence in yourself now you're just screwing yourself over even more.

Jay
08-23-2005, 07:18 PM
If you lose confidence in yourself now you're just screwing yourself over even more.

Exactly. I was totally down and out after that chick I described above let me down. But man, you can't let her know that she broke you. You can't give her that satisfaction. You're just hurting yourself if you let her affect you.

Go out, play around, show her that you CAN pull whatever girl you want. That's the best cure in the book.

Wysen
08-23-2005, 07:25 PM
I'll offer some advice. I was once single, I still remember the mentality I kept.

Be yourself, both mentally and physically.
If she doesn't like you for being yourself... fuck her. There are enough women out there that eventually, you'll find the one that you get along with and who gets along with you.

The end.

If your browsing for women, your going to come up with more duds than good catches. At least, that was my experience. And don't get caught up on the duds, they aren't worth your time, concentrate on getting over it and moving on to finding the next one.

Jay
08-23-2005, 07:35 PM
If your browsing for women, your going to come up with more duds than good catches.

Totally. Even the most successful guy wouldn't even have a 50% success rate at chatting women up, because at the end of the day if you go hom with a woman that's one out of however many you tried that was successful.

You've just got to not let it get you down, and keep working the pack. You'll find a good one eventually.

CNagy
08-23-2005, 07:38 PM
She has no right to just cast me aside like that...
I'm sympathetic with how badly you've been treated, but this is a pit you don't want to step into. She has every right in the world to decide that you are not relationship material, just as you have every right in the world to kick her to the curb if she is not right for you. No one is entitled to anything in the dating world at the beginning, because it takes two people to make a good relationship.

Mojinr
08-23-2005, 07:48 PM
Topic creator is almost correct. You see GIRLS are evil. I have mathematical proof.

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4686/girlsareevil6cx.jpg

It starts before the reach proper womanhood and just sticks with them.

Jay
08-23-2005, 07:52 PM
That's been done to death, Mojinr. I saw it like 4 eyars ago and it was fairly old back then. I have it memorised. :p

CNagy
08-23-2005, 07:55 PM
Heh, indeed... I remember people in my geometry class chuckling about it... oh, seven or eight years ago. It's a classic, though.

Mojinr
08-23-2005, 07:57 PM
I know it's old but matched the situation so why not post it? :p

Edit: Wait... now that I think about. I should print this out of my Calculus class. I'm sure some of them haven't heard the joke.

Bobbybirdtree
08-23-2005, 08:05 PM
The scary thing is that equation works. :D

hanacker
08-23-2005, 09:19 PM
Would every guy in this thread be willing to date a hideously ugly girl even if she had a great personality? Some would (probably the ugly guys :P) but most wouldn't. Looks matter. That's life.

Just because one girl doesn't find you attractive doesn't mean it's time for plastic surgery. Some girls have ridiculously high standards and some just have weird standards. One girl's ideal guy may be too muscular, too tall, have the wrong color hair, etc. for another girl. So one girl doesn't find you attractive. Big deal. Others will. Move on.

Saying all women are evil because one girl doesn't find you attractive is a HUGE overreaction.

Jay
08-23-2005, 09:26 PM
The scary thing is that equation works. :D

Yeah. I've got it memorised and apply it to every chick I meet. Works every time. :D

Welcome to my signature BTW.

delen
08-23-2005, 09:31 PM
OMG someone didn't find you attractive. Shocking. That never happens to any of the rest of us.

And wait, what's that I hear? Someone didn't want to date you because they don't like the way you look? Truely this person doesn't know what they are doing, as people should never pay attention to looks when dating...

Right. Hahahaha.

delen
08-23-2005, 09:38 PM
yea, it's all good, some people just have different tolerances on atractiveness than others

i'm sure there is someone out there who would date someone no matter how fugly they are; more power to 'em, they have more people to choose from :)

Rogue_7
08-23-2005, 09:44 PM
Remember Rogue's Proof.

Women= Evil
Breasts= Good

The eternal male conundrum. But yes, they are evil, oh so wicked. Nuff said really.

CNagy
08-23-2005, 09:48 PM
And personally, as long as someone makes an effort to look nice I don't really place that much importance on it. It's the insides that count =)The insides do count. I've often lamented the fact that my relationships always end up parted out on the black market, and their paltry meats fetch such small sums. Talk about a disappointing finish.

Bobbybirdtree
08-23-2005, 09:50 PM
I'm in a sig. Time for a parade or two.

erbiumfiber
08-23-2005, 10:00 PM
Hey for once a guy knows how a girl feels 24/7. Ever see an ugly guy with a cute girl? Hell yeah, pretty frequently. Ever see see a hot guy with a dog? Nope, didn't think so. Women are judged SO MUCH MORE by our looks than men. Now you know how it feels to be a piece of meat...

Mushu
08-23-2005, 10:20 PM
If she is into looks that much then fuck her, she isn’t worth it and don’t talk to her friend about her, just makes look weak and makes her feel better, just freeze her out mate. That’s what I’ve done and would do.

Shadowknight
08-23-2005, 10:23 PM
I'll offer some advice. I was once single, I still remember the mentality I kept.

Be yourself, both mentally and physically.
I've read a more interesting take on this, as follows;
Be yourself means be comfortable and relaxed, not to actually BE YOURSELF. Sometimes "being yourself" on the first few dates can = no more dates.

Mushu
08-23-2005, 10:32 PM
I've read a more interesting take on this, as follows;
Be yourself means be comfortable and relaxed, not to actually BE YOURSELF. Sometimes "being yourself" on the first few dates can = no more dates. Indeed. When it comes to dating, think of it like an interview(totally ripped of from Van The Man :D) for a job want, you don’t tell your boss to be about your flaws or disturbing habits, no no, you tell and show them you best quality and LIE! Then after you get the job and contract stating they cant fire you for at least 6 month or something like, you slowly show them you true nature, NOT ALL OF IT, just some and by then you have grown on them and they till accept you for who you are. Sometimes they fire your sorry ass but by then you made money of them and the job wasn’t really for you so start to look for another job.

Mishka
08-24-2005, 12:24 AM
Women are 100% evil. 110%, if possible.


I resent that! I like to consider myself maybe 15% evil......20% tops! :p

Mojinr
08-24-2005, 12:33 AM
I resent that! I like to consider myself maybe 15% evil......20% tops! :p

You guys and women are alike in that way. Many underestimate their own stupidity or ugliest and women underestimate their evilness! It's lose-lose! :)

Expert Insomniac
08-24-2005, 04:13 AM
I'm sorry the date went badly. But look at it like this: would you really want to date a girl whose opinions were so easily swayed by unimportant things? I'm going to take the liberty to answer for you and you say no, of course not! Good answer, Lost Prophet! So look at it like this: at least she saved you time you would've wasted dating a girl who's not for you.

Don't worry about your looks. Different strokes for different folks.

I find myself, that my opinion of someone's attractiveness is 50% how they look and 50% my opinion of their personality. Asshole never seem that attractive, but that guy who held the door open for the old woman... damn. I'd tap that ass!

And since you open the floor up for women to complain about men too, I have a little tale that is actually pretty serious, but after a few years and a wonderful man to help me get over it, I can appreciate this merely for the globs of irony.

In tenth grade, I'd been dating a lot of guys who would kind of fit in the bad boy category... nothing serious, just your basic teenage rebellion. I was having no luck, so I decided to date this one boy who showed interest in me. He was in honors classes, a teacher's pet, Mormon, very concerned with family and following his religion. I figured, hey, a truly nice guy! It didn't work out, but we remained friends.

A year later, he tried to rape me.

All those bad boys, and the intelligent nice boy is the one who can't understand the word no. Go figure...

Psychochink
08-24-2005, 04:26 AM
Attractiveness is in the mind. However, by that I mean that you need to believe (and act like) you are desirable, and that she wants you. Because then she will.

For god's sake don't treat it like an interview, then you're already on the back foot. Don't act like you have a need to impress her, that shows lack of confidence, which isn't attractive to women. They want somebody who is strong and confident in their own right, not a doormat.

Of course, this is easier said than done, particularly if you like the girl in question. But it works.

Inu Ga Urusai
08-24-2005, 08:35 AM
Women are evil? Please.
Women are great! They look good, they smell nice, and they're very very soft :)
Sometimes they're even smart or good dancers!
Boo Friggin Hoo, dude!

Benaire
08-24-2005, 09:20 AM
Women are evil? Please.
Women are great! They look good, they smell nice, and they're very very soft :)
Sometimes they're even smart or good dancers!
Boo Friggin Hoo, dude!


Women can't be smart and a good dancer? :confused:

Snake eyeS
08-24-2005, 09:23 AM
Also with the younger people, alot of the times they are after a trophy girlfriend or boyfriend. Someone they can show off. It a sad part of life.
(fact)

Just keep walking and don't look back.
(good way to get trough life, if you dont give a fuck, then others wont either.)


When it comes to dating, think of it like an interview(totally ripped of from Van The Man ) for a job want, you don’t tell your boss to be about your flaws or disturbing habits, no no, you tell and show them you best quality and LIE! Then after you get the job and contract stating they cant fire you for at least 6 month or something like, you slowly show them you true nature, NOT ALL OF IT, just some and by then you have grown on them and they till accept you for who you are. Sometimes they fire your sorry ass but by then you made money of them and the job wasn’t really for you so start to look for another job.
(hehe pretty cool to start a relation and very true aswell, put yourself out on the open and you will get shot down. all my relations went like this so for me this is really nice to read :D )

To the OP, well what can i say? life sucks and girls do hurt. just keep your head up and move on.

Some advice, drink a few tequilas and water them down with beers. worked like a charm for me this weekend. another 2 girls that got sucked into my game :D ...if my girl only knew...

another piece of advice from someone who hasnt had real trouble with girls, NEVER start a relation unless its the true one. all my relations sofar have been with girls that i didnt care that much for, my current girlfriend is great fun and i like to do stuff with her and she is a pretty damn beautiful.
Only been in love twice and i would be happy to never be in love again. it fucked me up big time and took me a friggin 4 years to get over it. the next true love will be my wife.(or so i hope)

Arctic_Slicer
08-24-2005, 09:26 AM
Topic creator is almost correct. You see GIRLS are evil. I have mathematical proof.

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4686/girlsareevil6cx.jpg

It starts before the reach proper womanhood and just sticks with them.

Who ever says "time is money" is insulting time. "You can always more money but you can never have more time."

Pierrot le Fou
08-24-2005, 09:38 AM
So women are fucking evil, LostProphet is fucking good looking, who do I get to fuck?

You got turned down. There is nothing evil about a woman who isn't interested in you rejecting you. And considering how poorly you're taking it, I'm going to guess that this is going to be a trend (rejection) so long as you blame women for your failings.

Welcome to dating, enjoy your stay.

Kass
08-24-2005, 10:31 AM
Hmmm.. Women are evil because one is shallow and dates based on looks.

Hello! Welcome to the wonderful world of NOT being a female super model. If you really think that men don't select dates and prospective dates based on looks, let me introduce you to the concept of trophy wives. Trade the old one in on a newer, younger model. That's right guys, if she isn't of Barbie proportions, buy one that is--silicone and all.

When was the last time you saw a guy out on a date with an ugly woman? It is pretty freaking rare.

While I don't think it is nearly as bad as the feminazis make it out to be, women are judged by a totally unrealistic super model standard and if you are cute or average, you're hosed. (The average supermodel is unhealthily underweight, often stops menstruating due to improper nutrition and a disproportionately large percentage of them suffer from eating disorders.) Kind of sucks to be stuck firmly in the cute category, but on the other hand, cute girls don't get stuck with men who are totally shallow as well.

And all the while men are looking for that "perfect" woman, they are passing a lot of women by that they'd probably genuinely like and stand a million times better chance with. Almost all initial attraction is based on looks to some degree. That is why there is dating--to weed out lust from genuine attraction.

My guy has a rather hysterical classification system about women. Please remember, this is meant as a JOKE. I wish I had saved the chat we talked about it in, but the gist of it is this (and it isn't nearly as funny as when he explains it. Sorry...):

If you want to score, here are your odds based on type of woman:

Hot: Very low scoring ratio and requires a lot of money and effort. You have to put up with attitude too.
Cute: Good scoring ratio and requires some money and some effort. Cute girls are more pleasant than hot girls and tend to work harder too.
Ugly: Excellent scoring ratio and requires little money and little effort.
Fugly: Scoring assured, but have a few beers first.
OMG Fugly: You could score with no effort or investment at all, but why would you?

If you are looking for a relationship:
Hot: Bring your wallet and be sure there are a few platinum cards in it. Holding onto a hot girl is going to cost you big.
Cute:Yes, you'll have to spend some bucks, but the return on your investment is higher. Cute girls aren't likely to walk as soon as the next hot wallet walks by.
Ugly: They'll jump at the chance for a relationship. Be a decent guy and buy her flowers from time to time anyway.
Fugly: Like you have to ask. Passing out in her bed after drunken sex could be construed as a marriage proposal.
OMG Fugly: Consider a restraining order.

Dating sucks. You spend a lot of time finding the one that is NOT a good match. It's all worth it if and when you do find someone you like and enjoy.

Inu Ga Urusai
08-24-2005, 01:16 PM
Kass, sorry but you're very wrong. Hot women aren't interested in money. They'll definately fuck you if you're good looking ;)

No_
08-24-2005, 01:21 PM
Women are evil.. when they want to be...
But they can still be sweet and loving.
I shuld know...

Pierrot le Fou
08-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Women are evil.. when they want to be...
But they can still be sweet and loving.
I shuld know...
My God, it's the reincarnation of Cassanova everyone! Quick, everyone feast your eyes on this all-knowing eloquent individual before he is lost to the annals of romance novels and history! And probably 13 Hollywood movies!

While I'm glad you know, No_, you said absolutely nothing of any value, relative or otherwise, in this thread. But thank you for contributing anyway. Honestly.

Here at OP9, our motto is 'screw quality, quantity is where it's at' and you've brought us one step closer to our goal of 100% spam. I thank you from the bottom of my hardened heart.

Snake eyeS
08-24-2005, 02:23 PM
My God, it's the reincarnation of Cassanova everyone! Quick, everyone feast your eyes on this all-knowing eloquent individual before he is lost to the annals of romance novels and history! And probably 13 Hollywood movies!

While I'm glad you know, No_, you said absolutely nothing of any value, relative or otherwise, in this thread. But thank you for contributing anyway. Honestly.

Here at OP9, our motto is 'screw quality, quantity is where it's at' and you've brought us one step closer to our goal of 100% spam. I thank you from the bottom of my hardened heart.

I've read most of your posts in your own thread concerning the post you were adressing. maybe its not the wisest thing to do, loking for smart and sensible posts smack in the middle of anime freaks, filter them out and you would be so much closer to the board of your choice. and i like to add that even with the anime and japan crazed posters here, this board still shows alot more maturity then anywhere ive been on the net.

ps: dont get me confused with a anime freak.. they are the only thing that turn my stomach here on OP9.

Pierrot le Fou
08-24-2005, 02:29 PM
My God, if I ignored all the people that you're suggesting I should, I don't think there would be posts left for me to read. I mean sweet Jesus there are a lot of posts and conversations mid-thread by people like that, and ignoring them all would make it nigh impossible to follow a discussion of any kind...

delen
08-24-2005, 03:17 PM
I'm sorry the date went badly. But look at it like this: would you really want to date a girl whose opinions were so easily swayed by unimportant things? I'm going to take the liberty to answer for you and you say no, of course not! Good answer, Lost Prophet! So look at it like this: at least she saved you time you would've wasted dating a girl who's not for you.

Don't worry about your looks. Different strokes for different folks.

I find myself, that my opinion of someone's attractiveness is 50% how they look and 50% my opinion of their personality. Asshole never seem that attractive, but that guy who held the door open for the old woman... damn. I'd tap that ass!

And since you open the floor up for women to complain about men too, I have a little tale that is actually pretty serious, but after a few years and a wonderful man to help me get over it, I can appreciate this merely for the globs of irony.

In tenth grade, I'd been dating a lot of guys who would kind of fit in the bad boy category... nothing serious, just your basic teenage rebellion. I was having no luck, so I decided to date this one boy who showed interest in me. He was in honors classes, a teacher's pet, Mormon, very concerned with family and following his religion. I figured, hey, a truly nice guy! It didn't work out, but we remained friends.

A year later, he tried to rape me.

All those bad boys, and the intelligent nice boy is the one who can't understand the word no. Go figure...

What do you expect dating a crazy mormon teacher's pet? That guy has pyscho written all over him. Normal people can only put up with stupid religious rules for so long beofre they snap. Even worse if they are pretending to be nice and sucking up all the time.

ZMarie
08-24-2005, 05:51 PM
Hey for once a guy knows how a girl feels 24/7. Ever see an ugly guy with a cute girl? Hell yeah, pretty frequently. Ever see see a hot guy with a dog? Nope, didn't think so. Women are judged SO MUCH MORE by our looks than men. Now you know how it feels to be a piece of meat...

Wow, erbiumfiber. You sound really angry.

Yes, guys do judge by looks. Women do too. But I've personally found that women are harder on other women about looks that guys are. So who's fault is that really?

No_
08-24-2005, 05:57 PM
While I'm glad you know, No_, you said absolutely nothing of any value, relative or otherwise, in this thread. But thank you for contributing anyway. Honestly.

Here at OP9, our motto is 'screw quality, quantity is where it's at' and you've brought us one step closer to our goal of 100% spam. I thank you from the bottom of my hardened heart.
Spam spam spam, eggs and spam ;)

Lighten up...

tekkan
08-24-2005, 06:31 PM
Spam spam spam, eggs and spam ;)

Lighten up...

My thoughts exactly.

This is the internet pierrot le fou.

Where people of all ages and personality roam.

I like to engage in serious thought provoking discussion. But sometimes I just enjoy being silly.

All in all. The internet was not created in your image. So don't expect everyone using it to conform to your ways.

Sure spam can be annoying sometimes, but sometimes it adds a little colour to an otherwise saddened thread debating a topic that has been beaten to death a million times over.

P.S. SPAM SPAM SPAM.

P.P.S. GET NAKED

P.P.P.S. Eat Poo.

D-pad
08-24-2005, 06:36 PM
P.P.......Heehee I said Peepee.

LimbyLoo
08-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Hey LostProphet, ever stop to think maybe you just have horrendous taste in women?

hanacker
08-24-2005, 07:27 PM
Kass, sorry but you're very wrong. Hot women aren't interested in money.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breath*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You think Dolce and Gabanna miniskirts grow on trees? I'm sure most of them aren't only interested in money, but everyone wants to get paid. Hot girls just have a much easier time getting people to spend money on them.

Inu Ga Urusai
08-25-2005, 06:02 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breath*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You think Dolce and Gabanna miniskirts grow on trees? I'm sure most of them aren't only interested in money, but everyone wants to get paid. Hot girls just have a much easier time getting people to spend money on them.

What I meant was that ugly dudes with no personality are convinced that hot chicks are only interested in money. Sure everyone loves money, but if you're a cool guy with decent looks you're chances of getting laid are far better than someone who just has money to offer.

scan2001
08-25-2005, 11:14 AM
I like your point Inu Ga Urusai.

Trump
08-25-2005, 02:22 PM
What was his point? That ugly guys hope hot girls are only interested in money so they have a chance? Yeah, if you've got decent looks then there are worlds of possibilities, but for those who don't what choice is there?

CNagy
08-25-2005, 02:26 PM
Ugly guys have to compensate, just like they always have. Ginsberg was a short fat guy who gave poetry readings in the nude, and yet he was loved by many. You can't make it on looks alone? Few people can-- become exceptional at something and let that speak for you in addition to your looks and personality.

I'm a big guy. I'm not as fat as I used to be, but I am still a big, bald guy. Yet if a woman really likes to read, I can sweep her off of her feet with a well-written piece or bit of poetry. Does it always work? No. But it does work.

Snake eyeS
08-25-2005, 02:33 PM
This is what girls really mean to say:

Says: I want a man who is motivated and has goals.
Means: I want a rich man

Says: I want a man who knows how to treat a woman.
Means: I want a rich man

Says: He's from a really good family.
Means: He's from a really rich family.

I'm sure you get the point. Let's move on.

stolen from this (http://intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html) site, i think it fits the discussion at hand.

Jay
08-25-2005, 03:52 PM
My God, it's the reincarnation of Cassanova everyone! Quick, everyone feast your eyes on this all-knowing eloquent individual before he is lost to the annals of romance novels and history! And probably 13 Hollywood movies!

While I'm glad you know, No_, you said absolutely nothing of any value, relative or otherwise, in this thread. But thank you for contributing anyway. Honestly.

Here at OP9, our motto is 'screw quality, quantity is where it's at' and you've brought us one step closer to our goal of 100% spam. I thank you from the bottom of my hardened heart.

Heh heh heh heh. Finally I found someone as sarcastic as me.

Hey No_, where's the point and laugh emote when you need it? *giggle*

(Oh and Pierrot, don't pin me for spamming, bro, I said my piece earlier in the thread and now I'm complimenting a funny post. :D)