Women can’t live with them, can’t live without them.

[Mushu]

some gibbrish thoughts....

I don’t know if it’s only me or if there are others, but women drive me nuts. Mostly not in a good way. I’m only talking about the ones I’ve met so far and I’m not generalizing so don’t get all buffed up and if you do, take it up with someone that gives a damn.

I don’t think women know what direct or simple mean, I don’t thinking its in their vocabulary. It would have been a lot easier for us men and for you women if you could just say what’s on your mind and what you want instead of talking in riddles and being all mysteries. No matter how understanding we may be, we are not mind reader. You may like a guy but you won’t go to him and ask him out. No you have to play the ‘game’ and act like you are not interested in him and waste time. That is if you two see each other on regular bases. God forbid if you asked him out or showed an interest people would think you are a slut.

You say you are looking for a nice guy and there aren’t many of out there, but deep inside you don’t want that at all, not at the younger years at least. You want the bad and the wild ones because you want to tame them and once you can’t tame them and they hurt you, you run to the nice guy and complain about how men are jerks. You ask them ‘why are men all idiots’, ‘how can men be cold hearted bastards’ and ‘why do I always find them’. And the bore bastard gives a shoulder to cry on and licks your wounds, fixes your broken wings and makes you feel good about yourself. Then you thank them by going out with these assholes and redoing the whole process again.

These asshole that treat you like trash aren’t drawn to you, you are drawn to them. By concealing who then really are from you, you start make a fictional picture of him. The perfect guy and he knows that’s what you are thinking and want so he plays along. You might have a relationship up to a year or two until you realize that he isn’t the gentleman you imagined he was because you fall in love with an image that’s no longer there. So it ends bad and from there on you take it over every decent man you meet. You start to become suspicious and paranoid of every man, even once you find a good man; you blow it because you start to think it’s too good to be true…..



The pussycat dolls feat busta rhymes – Don’t cha just come on the telly and I lost my train of thoughts…anyways I wish women were like men….on the inside I mean. I like the outside.

next time ill tell you why i cant be an asshole to women

Its 4 in the morning and I can’t sleep….

/sleepless in Stockholm

[koku]

Though I agree with alot of what you said.....this topic had been done to death so I'm not sure what everyone else is going to say to you.

I agree that playing the game of cat n mouse and the teasing, and the lying, and playing the asshole fictional guy all that crap is a waiste of f'n time.

I wish too that people would just wake the hell up. Eventually I think a woman will(when she's 30 and needs to find a mate) or when she's been hurt enough and hears things like this. I guess just try and make the best of things until then. Also, not all women do so. Find on that doesnt take men for granted.

I guess...we just have to live with it. But if you find one that you can just be your god damn self around for once, hang on to it. Or mabye just go rant and see who listens :P. I'm sure one lady will be like "god i hate that too."

Like i said in the old forums..

What ever happend to I like you, you like me? Really?? Cool let's go like each other until one of us screws up.


That's how all relationships should be. Oh and yes, the assertive woman= slut thing is so annoying. God forbid men didn't have to do all the work for once.

[CNagy]

Some of your issues with women seem to strike a strange note.

You want the bad and the wild ones because you want to tame them and once you can’t tame them and they hurt you, you run to the nice guy and complain about how men are jerks... These asshole that treat you like trash aren’t drawn to you, you are drawn to them. I know plenty of women who don't do this, even though they are only in their late teens and early twenties. Perhaps you are attracted to the kind of women that do this whole routine, especially since it sounds like a common problem you have in dealing with women. You are drawn to them, they are drawn to assholes, assholes drive them to you-- but as you've said that never lasts and soon the cycle starts anew.

You might have a relationship up to a year or two until you realize that he isn’t the gentleman you imagined he was because you fall in love with an image that’s no longer there. So it ends bad and from there on you take it over every decent man you meet. You start to become suspicious and paranoid of every man, even once you find a good man; you blow it because you start to think it’s too good to be true….. We do this too. The girl that some nice guy dreams about? He thinks she'll come around and realize what a great guy he is, fall in love with him, remain faithful to him. It's the passive verson of those women who think that they can tame some guy. In any case, we build up such elaborate images and we become disheartened when they crumble. It's human nature. It's somewhat ironic that you make this point, considering you start with "women drive me nuts, women don't know what simple and direct means, etc." I know you have a disclaimer there about how you aren't generalizing, but you are. It's like saying "Now I don't mean to be offensive but..." just prior to a flame; it doesn't change the heat.

You start to become suspicious and paranoid of every man, even once you find a good man; you blow it because you start to think it’s too good to be true….. Truthfully, from what I've read on these boards, I'm alot more concerned about the guys passing up good women because of their bitterness and suspicion. That stuff isn't easy to hide, you can drive people away with just a little of those thoughts or emotions making themselves known in your eyes or expression. You really only shoot yourself in the foot with this kind of attitude.

[Mushu]

cnagy - I hope you don’t think I’m taking a stand on one side here, i'm merely telling a small part of a huge story. You maybe assumed that when I used the word women I was talking about all women but I’m only talking about the "bad" ones I met. Maybe tomorrow when I can’t sleep ill share my thoughts on wonderful side of women, the selfish and idiot side of men and all the things I wrote in this thread that I find silly in men, as myself and why we are attracted them.

I also don’t mind being flamed, corrected and putten into place as long as there a reason and explanation behind it and not with 'b/c I don’t agree with you and I say so’.

[CNagy]

A) I keep reading my reply over and over again, unless you've got skin soaked with gasoline, I'm not seeing a flame-- maybe just a spark or two.

B) Did you post this for opinions? I mean, if you didn't, then why post at all? And if you did, you really should have stated that you only want people who agree with you to post. Did I "correct you" and "put you in your place?" You seem to think so, I was offering an opinion. The only way I've corrected you and put you in your place is if, essentially, everything I said happened to be completely true. Is it?

C) It really does sound like you are taking a stand on one side, at least in the first post. It's a rant, really, and I've yet to see a middle-of-the-road rant. You've been hurt by one, if not many, women, this much is true. I'm not coming at this from the perspective of a guy who has only had luck with the fairer sex; I can empathize with your position, but the ideas and opinions you propose are only self-defeating. I assume, at the end of the day, that you aren't swearing off women completely, so when you do try to get back on the horse this bitterness could come back to bite you in the ass.

Edit: Guess you editted a bit while I was posting. With that one word missing it was hard to assume whether you didn't mind or didn't appreciate. I've backed up my statements with as much reasoning as one can apply to a situation that only presents a little information. Surely you don't expect me to explain how women think and reason; if I could do that I wouldn't be posting on a forum, I'd be making billions with a book.

[Mushu]

The last part I just wanted to state that I wasn’t the kind person that gets upset and mad about constructive criticism, I didn’t mean that you flamed me or put in my place. I apologize if it came out that way, truly I’m.

And for the record I don’t just people that agree with posting here. If everyone on the forum agrees with me on this, then this wouldn’t have been fun, wouldn’t you agree :D.

Maybe I approached the whole thing wrong; I thought by starting off with the bad stuff on side, then the other side and then ending it with the good sides I would create excitement. As the headline states "Women can’t live with them, can’t live without them." I’ve just started with little bit of the cant live with them and was going to get to the cant live without them part. Maybe I should write the whole thing first then post…hmm

[Rogue_7]

yeah, boring, been there done this.

Yes women are fucked up. Yes men are fucked up.

none of us get laid enough

nuff said

all done now

[Annoying MSN Person]

Misogynists.

And the title of the thread is misleading. Punctuate.

Patient: Doctor doctor. I'm all broken and shit. Whenever I touch my nose, it hurts like hell. When I touch my chest, hips, knees, toes, anywhere, it's the most incredible fucking pain.

Doctor: You are stupid. Your finger is broken. </joke.>

Ever wonder why it seems like every single woman is like this? Could it be YOU are the one with the problem?

Ok. Enough with the threads complaining about the opposite sex. Fricking males. :p

[Jiant Flying Panda]

Not this again.

All Hands On Deck..... Brace For Impact.... :rolleyes:

[hidethedrone]

Umm... i think we're all missing the point here...


Just kick her to the curb and find someone else...

Haha, it's really all so simple, even when someone's being complicated. It's really all so simple in the end.

[VeryMeanThoughts]

I read nothing in this thread. but the subject is wrong. You CAN live without women. it's easy. you just don't talk to them. problem solved.

[Benaire]

You know what I hear this alot and honestly I believe most people expect just too much from others. You can live with women and without you just gotta ajust your game plan.

[Mushu]

Hahahahah, some of the inputs are funny. Sorry if I tore up old wounds, didn’t know you already went through it before, ill drop the whole project.

In my defense it was 4 in the morning and I couldn’t sleep so I thought maybe ill start one of those world sucks on accounts of this, this, this and these things and at the end I would say I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else or something cliché like that. Sounded a wonderful idea at the time :) too bad I got distracted in the middle of it and got sleepy :o

[Kustom]

I don’t think women know what direct or simple mean, I don’t thinking its in their vocabulary. It would have been a lot easier for us men and for you women if you could just say what’s on your mind and what you want instead of talking in riddles and being all mysteries.

HA! Now try dating a Japanese woman!


none of us get laid enough


HA! Now, do try dating a Japanese woman!

[Mushu]

HA! Now try dating a Japanese woman!



HA! Now, do try dating a Japanese woman!
could you expound on that one, im gonna live in japan for one and half year :)

[Kustom]

Then, learning to second guess others around you should become a second nature... Either that or you'll die. ;)

Now about the Japanese women sex drive, I'll let you experience that for yourself

[graphia]

After skipping the whole thread and most of the first post (sorry :P) I can tell you that you *need* to read some David DeAngelo (www.doubleyourdating) (hint: sign up for the newsletter or pm me if you want to know more), as well as why "Girls go for Assholes" (http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml). Trust me, it's a valuable exercise.

[Mushu]

this could be interesting

[Roxie]

Not really.

I bet it's like "all girls like assholes" in 50 paragraphs or something like that. Which is evidence to me that if you have to act like something you're not just to get a chick, you're going after the wrong kind.

But of course this depends on your want for quality over quantity.

[graphia]

I bet it's like "all girls like assholes" in 50 paragraphs or something like that. Which is evidence to me that if you have to act like something you're not just to get a chick, you're going after the wrong kind.

Not at all, it's more like the exact opposite :p

[マルクス主義]

You know what I hear this alot and honestly I believe most people expect just too much from others. You can live with women and without you just gotta ajust your game plan.

I stopped reading this topic when my eyes met your avatar. Y_Y