Crash

[eyez0nme]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/06/movies/x06cras.html?ex=1146888000&en=ab9c464bf3c29946&ei=5083&partner=Rotten%20Tomatoes

You know what fucking pisses me off about this movie? The fact that it potrays all the asians sterotypical--like all the other asian based movies (kung-fu or ching chong; how may i help you?)--when all the rest of the characters in Crash--the blacks, the browns, the whites--actually have time to express their flawed ideaology about racism, the whole movies itself is racists towards Asians. All race has some way come to terms with their prejudice feelings, except Asians. What the fuck? We see the old man using Korean (he's not even speaking properly) and telling his wife--who acts like she's on crack--to check in the cash which we later find out is blood money. The movie can't even call them Koreans--not once in the entire movie; not a single time do we hear the word Korean--whereas the Persian girl clearly states that their Persian, not Arabs.

That's not how Asians act. That's not even how Koreans act. If they want to show how Koreans act, at least, show an honest representation, even if what they're doing is heartless and corrupt. Old man doesn't even swear when he's under the SUV; doesn't even yell nigga did it; and the woman, they call the wife, doesn't even cry at the hospital bed. They don't curse; they don't cry; yet they smuggle illegal immigrants over the border. And the illegals aren't even Korean. Why the fuck would Koreans smuggle Thai people? They smuggle their own--all woman--to hire them for prostitution.

And they make it look like that's L.A. Everyone know that ain't L.A. Los Angeles is dirty, in most areas, not sparkling clean. And there are pedestrians--mostly mexicans, but an array of different race nonetheless--strolling down Pico and Western. There isn't a sea of white faces at a restaurant--unless it's Beverly Hills. And, if you think about it, L.A. is the more racially accepted city compared to other part of the area. What the fuck was the writer thinking?

This movie is a not only a disgrace to the Koreans in general, but to the whole Asian cumminities at large.

And, if Crash really was L.A., Howard Terrace would've been shot on the spot.

[nice gaijin]

Not familiar with this film, when I heard the title I first thought of the 1996 movie by the same name http://imdb.com/title/tt0115964/

Who is Howard Terrace? a search on imdb brought up nothing on character names or people.

Glad to see you're trying to put a bit more effort into your posts, but this is in the wrong forum.

[Loc]

I didn't think much of it myself, quite pretentious. I can't remember noticing Asian people being singled out as being idiotic, I thought most people in the film were.

[Pierrot le Fou]

That movie was such complete garbage it made my brain ache.

Garbage.

Apparently the director just wanted to make people talk about the movie after it was done, but all I could talk about was what garbage it was. My mother was getting pissed at the characters, and all I could think was, "It's fictional, stereotypical, and not very thought-provoking."

All the characters save Cheadle and Dillon were just so damned one-dimensional.

[Anders]

Oh but Oprah seemed to really love the movie. Since she ran a segment about the movie on her propaganda show the movie has been renting like crazy again.

[harper]

I just watched it last week for the first time. I liked it and thought it was pretty good. It reminded me a bit of Grand Canyon from 15 or so years ago.

[Roxie]

I really liked it.

I mean, sure it was fictional, but it was...I don't know, a sociolgical thriller?

[harper]

I thought all of the actors did a good job, but Don Cheadle in particular. I really liked him in Hotel Rwanda.

[aseriana]

I liked the movie.
But it pissed me off at the same time. XD;

@ harper "I thought all of the actors did a good job, but Don Cheadle in particular. I really liked him in Hotel Rwanda."

I agree with that completely. And Hotel Rwanda is amazing.

[scan2001]

I thought crash was a really good movie. The acting was amazing and I can’t believe that Ludacris can act. It got it message across and I’m satisfy with it.

[rameek]

I liked the movie but I can see where the assesment of the asian portion of the movie was not developed. I would assume a large portion of there scenes probably ended up on the editors floor.
I didnt really care for how many of the characters were portrayed in the film. There were no hero/heroine in the film. I guess most characters were flawed and some had a sense of redemption.
I dont think the film IMHO did anything to change perception of race but I dont know if that was the intention. I guess it just showed some of the flaws of each race that could be seen at home or in the dark.

[OliveButtercup]

Not familiar with this film, when I heard the title I first thought of the 1996 movie by the same name http://imdb.com/title/tt0115964/

Who is Howard Terrace? a search on imdb brought up nothing on character names or people.

Glad to see you're trying to put a bit more effort into your posts, but this is in the wrong forum.

Terrence Howard....

[Pierrot le Fou]

What message did it get across? That all people are flawed? We knew that. All it seemed bent on doing was on making the people watching hate the characters on screen.

[scan2001]

What message did it get across? That all people are flawed? We knew that. All it seemed bent on doing was on making the people watching hate the characters on screen.

Your right that it show that people are flawed and we already know that but I think it still a good movie that people should see. You can say that it a movie that get people talking about it. I'm sure that what Paul Haggis wanted to do.

[Asperitas]

I really thought it was a good movie, The best part was with the 2 guys with the maria statue, and the part with the carcrash.

[eyez0nme]

Cause you white.

[Kusoyaro]

cheadle is probably one of the most underrated actors ever. i remember watching him ins snatch and i was like, "wow," this guy owns all. except pitt, that fucking pikey. i hate pikes.
i sort of liked dillon's character, but almost everyone else was pretty meh. oh, and terrence howard fakecries really well. that movie was generally a bunch os shit, but what do i know, im not a director. or a member of an awards' panel. some good moments though, like when he cals that welfare lady up (dillon) and asks her what her name is, and then he's like, figures. haha, that was horribly real.

racism prtrayed in certain extremes to notice the subtleties that permeate everyday life? blah.

[Roxie]

cheadle is probably one of the most underrated actors ever. i remember watching him ins snatch and i was like, "wow," this guy owns all.
Uh, Don wasn't in Snatch. :boggled:

[Pierrot le Fou]

The exchange between Dillon and the HMO worker was probably my favourite one in the movie. I just loved the contrast between Dillon, his father, and the HMO worker. I loved the fact that they made her out to be a spiteful bitch rather than painting her as some sort of victim.

[Roxie]

Heh. I don't think she was spiteful at all. He was totally wrong and brought it on himself.

Flies, honey, & vinegear.

[Pierrot le Fou]

"I would help your father, were he the one in here asking, but since you're the one asking, I'm not going to."

That is spiteful. She would help the father (because the father wasn't a bigot, theoretically), but she won't because his son is a bigot? That's spiteful. She is not doing it out of dislike for the guy asking, out of spite, not out of the actual merits of the situation or the person actually suffering.

Spiteful, hateful woman.

[Idlethought]

I think the movie was decent. Really predictable though. Also too many goddamn stories to follow, you cant really get focused on one set of characters for too long cause then comes the next set's story and the next set's story etc. Like personally I wanted to know more about the mexican father's story. I wanted to know more about the TV producer's wife's story. It all just seemed so rushed and whatnot. maybe its just me.

[Roxie]

"I would help your father, were he the one in here asking, but since you're the one asking, I'm not going to."

That is spiteful. She would help the father (because the father wasn't a bigot, theoretically), but she won't because his son is a bigot? That's spiteful. She is not doing it out of dislike for the guy asking, out of spite, not out of the actual merits of the situation or the person actually suffering.

Spiteful, hateful woman.
He should've thought of that before he opened his mouth. He didn't help his father at all....I think she did do it out of dislike (I mean, how could she like him at all? :boggled: ) Like I said, flies, honey, and vinegaer (sp).

[Pierrot le Fou]

It's called being spiteful. She's hurting someone she claimed she'd help because he's related to Dillon. That's spiteful.

[scan2001]

He should've thought of that before he opened his mouth. He didn't help his father at all....I think she did do it out of dislike (I mean, how could she like him at all? :boggled: ) Like I said, flies, honey, and vinegaer (sp).


Actually I really think the woman at the HMO was being spiteful.

[Roxie]

I don't know. I guess I didn't see it that way, b/c I saw it coming as soon as that crap left his tounge. If it's like that, they both didn't do their part imo.

[Pierrot le Fou]

Here comes the comment which will degenerate this entire thread into a pissing match:

That's probably because you're black.

There, I've said it. Allow me to be labeled as a racist again. You sympathized with the person closer to who you are. The movie was clearly labeling her as flawed which is why she got rear-ended at the end of the day, in her BMW or Mercedes.

Yes, he said hateful things. That doesn't make her less spiteful. And regardless of how much Dillon's character hated black people, he wasn't spiteful, he was just intolerant. He would have been spiteful if he had seen the black woman he molested in the car, and NOT tried to help her. That's spiteful.