"I don't IM people first; if they wanna talk to me, they'd IM me."

[koku]

ugh.






Ok so....

lol(take that bubbles n Jay) Everyone's heard this or has friends like this. Sometimes I want to believe the person just wants to weed out the people who are just like hi and bye/don't matter from the people that really want to be their friend(the type that would IM them first).

but.....

Don't they/you (yes you bum)ever think they/you are being the type of person they/you?? never talk to because they never IM people first because that person didn't IM them first and it al turns intol a big giant loop of hypocricy to the point it MAKES NO F'N SENSE cuz you're squelching/ignoring someone for ignoring you yet you're ignoring them and you hate that type of person for ignoring you but you're doing the same thing to them so in the end you hate what you are which doens't make sense because your supposed true intent is to not be associated by THAT?




:confused: but you're being one yourself!(hah! teh twist!)


*inhale*


RAR!! really though. I think that mentality is annoying. If we're friends, IM me first and i'll also I IM you first. We shouldnt be counting. It shoudln't seem like a chore. "Well i IMd you first last time so therefore...." *sigh* If we both made the effort it woudld never be an issue (and it shoudnt' really, what kind of shady thing is that to keep track of).

People that do that have like

A) superiority complexes and are being snobby bums

B) They're good people, but perhaps they just don't realize what they're doing(yeah..right??) <---- this is your benefit of the doubt option btw. Don't push your luck!

C) Just aren't the type that can bring up topics; who knows.


so yeah, share your experiences and theories in this crazy world of who IMs who.

[nice gaijin]

I'm sorry but ... what the fuck are you saying?

[Kusoyaro]

sometimes they just don't feel like anything.
fuck. dude, I said i was sorry...i would never intentioanlly harm you, mon cherie, you know that, eh?
i have this habit of not talking at all. if someone wants to talk to me then i talk, but otherwise i dont look for convos, because YOU might be busy and might feel like im a hbother.

[koku]

sometimes they just don't feel like anything.
fuck. dude, I said i was sorry...i would never intentioanlly harm you, mon cherie, you know that, eh?
i have this habit of not talking at all. if someone wants to talk to me then i talk, but otherwise i dont look for convos, because YOU might be busy and might feel like im a hbother.


i'm going to put that in my sig.

would never intentioanlly harm you, mon cherie, you know that


awwwwwwwwwwwww *fawns*

actually kuso, i'm not mad at you at all. You just reminded me of some people who take it too far ^^.

[Loc]

Yeah I don't really IM people much unless I got something pretty relevant to say or feel in a weird mood. Too many conversations just stresses me out though and there are always too many conversations >:/

[Myrsilus]

I love conversations, but I don't really initiate them too well. Especially in IM or PM.

It's for none of the reasons you listed, though, Kokujin. I don't do it because I hate feeling like I am burdening someone. I don't like thinking that if I try to communicate with someone that I'll be annoying or bothering them. So usually I just wait for someone to talk to me so I know they're willing.

Some people do think that this mentality reflects upon me as being an ass, though... Oh what can I do? :(

[Urban~Ninja]

I would say if they are like me they are doing something and dont notice you logging in, i know i do it alot, and also i know alot of people who log into MSN IM and just walk away for awhile.

Really i usually start the IM with people when they log in, but when i log in people who are already online usually IM me.

[Praetorian]

Kokujin, seriously, what have you been smoking?

[Spy]

Way to come off as a jackass ;)

[No_]

kokujin..
I can IM you if you want...
Just so you don't sit there and feel lonely when nobodyelse does ;)

[koku]

I love conversations, but I don't really initiate them too well. Especially in IM or PM.

It's for none of the reasons you listed, though, Kokujin. I don't do it because I hate feeling like I am burdening someone. I don't like thinking that if I try to communicate with someone that I'll be annoying or bothering them. So usually I just wait for someone to talk to me so I know they're willing.

Some people do think that this mentality reflects upon me as being an ass, though... Oh what can I do? :(


ok if this is the high ol reason in that you're SO respectfull you wont iM them because you might be a bother


what happens when there's two of you like that?

you both f'n sit there goin

"oh i wonder if he'll think im a bother"

"oh i wonder if she'll think im a bother"

"i'll just wait till she ims me first, to be safe. I wish she does though."

"yeah..ill play ti safe aND wait until he shows interest. hope he does."

and its like a two miscommuncation we're not going to talk each other because both of us are assuming the worst.

Usually if you IM someoen they'll tell you nicely if you're buissy. and if you really are a bother...that means they never liked you and proabably have never been nice to you. Either way, that rarely happens. Everyone welcomes conversation no?

well...yeah that's what I think. Send the wrong message but at the very least...just causes SILENCE! when it's not even intended.

Kind of ironic no?


hi No. If i get lonely online, i like...leave. I go crazy If i don't interact with people for a long time.

[Myrsilus]

I understand what might happen if I meet someone else like me, but that usually is not the case. For some reason I barely ever meet anyone like me in this regard. So I'm usually being talked to first.

I'm aware that if they're busy or don't like me they will communicate it, but I've sometimes talked to people I don't want to simply because it seems like they need it. I'm not trying to sound pompous or anything, I just feel that sometimes one might just talk to humor the other person, regardless of how they truly feel.

People are different, so what I say does not apply to everyone. But this is the way I grew up and it's hard to change the ways that make up who I am as a person. Trust me, I try harder everyday to be more social, but I'm just not that much of a social person. I'll talk with pretty much everyone... It's just hard for me to make the first move. I'm a bit distant and sometimes I have trust issues.

[koku]

hmm wierd people. well if it counts fujin i actually think your'e pretty social..here atleast.

and as far as the playing a nice person and listneing/humoring thing. If you're on the end that has no idea....um...you shoudltn care. Let them humor you, you get humor. And as long as you're a good person it's going to hurt them more than it hurts you no?

but yeah, i've been in siatiaons where I don't want to talk to someone but I string along conversation. But....it usually takes alot for me to do that to someone. Eitehr they spoiled something I like, or i'm talking to like 5+ people or whatever.

*and i bet i've done that to people sometimes. I type fast and like to talk so it's bound to happen sooner or later. Doesn't really bother me much though. It would have happened sooner or later no?*

Eiteher way it all shoudlnt matter. If you don't put yourself out there you are only going to meet less people no? but yes, nothing wrong with being "un social" infact, alot of people are. I think it's normal. I've just learned to be social so it's a different thinking process for me.

[Myrsilus]

Yeah it's a little easier for me to be social on the internet. That and you all are pretty cool people in general.

Meet me in real life, though, and it's hard to get much out of me when you first meet me. People sometimes don't even talk to me because they think I hate them or don't want to talk to them ever. Only the truly persistant become my friends it seems.

[Loc]

haha I think a few people think I'm an ass on msn cos I don't talk to em much but I don't know about 50 of them hahaha

Anyway, I do have a core of people I talk to more and some I send/recieve messages from on occasion and then 70% of them are just...I don't know really. :confused:

Talk to me and I talk back though, I ain't an ass ;p

[D-pad]

People even in RL never initiate conversations with me.........

[Annoying MSN Person]

I am sending IMs to all people who post in this thread.

Because I love you all.

[akitaka]

Meet me in real life, though, and it's hard to get much out of me when you first meet me. People sometimes don't even talk to me because they think I hate them or don't want to talk to them ever. Only the truly persistant become my friends it seems.
Hum. It's the same for me; it took damn near a year until I had a few friends, none of which were anywhere near intimate. Silly thing is, I'm no more open online than I am offline, and have no online friends (but some good peers here). When it comes to IM it really depends on who I speak with, to initiate a conversation, or not. I get along best with people who work hard in any activity involving physical effort, strangely enough.

With this, I don't see why anyone should be angry for someone who doesn't feel like starting; it's not like you're in a loving relationship.

Some of us feel less inclined to start a fire, for better or worse.

And lately you've been starting quite a few rant posts. Would it not be better to deal with your problems a little more personally, rather than add threads at this rate? I mean, if this was aimed at Kusoyaro, then PM or IM him or something.

[Myrsilus]

Hum. It's the same for me; it took damn near a year until I had a few friends, none of which were anywhere near intimate. Silly thing is, I'm no more open online than I am offline, and have no online friends (but some good peers here). When it comes to IM it really depends on who I speak with, to initiate a conversation, or not. I get along best with people who work hard in any activity involving physical effort, strangely enough.

With this, I don't see why anyone should be angry for someone who doesn't feel like starting; it's not like you're in a loving relationship.

Some of us feel less inclined to start a fire, for better or worse.

And lately you've been starting quite a few rant posts. Would it not be better to deal with your problems a little more personally, rather than add threads at this rate? I mean, if this was aimed at Kusoyaro, then PM or IM him or something.
I agree. I just can't start things all the time... I prefer for someone else to start things up and I just follow along. Nothing so amazing.

And I take it that last part was aimed at someone else, right? o.o 'Cause I don't have too many problems at the moment... I hope. Especially with Kusoyaro.

[koku]

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And lately you've been starting quite a few rant posts. Would it not be better to deal with your problems a little more personally, rather than add threads at this rate? I mean, if this was aimed at Kusoyaro, then PM or IM him or something.


lol i'm not too serious here. lol :P.

c'mon man, read it. read my first post. do I sound serious? I had like a 20 sentance run on. I was palying aroudn with font sizes and bold.

I don't think I was serious.

and thech. this is rant post #2.

:D

[akitaka]

For me, it almost always has to have something to do with actually doing something with physical effort...not like studying, or discussing politics, but like sparring, lifting things (say, construction), taking a run, eating...I can easily invite someone/a group to do something with them, but it has to be in motion. Say, phones? I dislike them. "I'll meet you at soandso place to do soandso activity, and we can talk". Maybe it's just my way of being passive.

As for the last comment, it was aimed at Mr. Kokujin here. You haven't expressed any anger/exasperation from what I've read thus far, so....yeah :)

[Myrsilus]

Ugh... I hate studying enough already, so I hate discussing it. Sorry, but books are the bane of my sanity. I'd prefer lectures ANYDAY.

But I do love talking about philosophy and things like that. And sparring and health is always a topic I love to dive into. Especially martial arts. Most of you have already realized this, though. I think. :D

Ah cool, thought I was coming off wrong on this board for a moment...

[akitaka]

Yeah, well, at least you can record lectures, put them on tape, then listen to them while you drive. Studying is a huge no. If someone IMs me about studying (which has happened) I just shut up. Then I'd blame my 56k connection for lagging out on me.

[Myrsilus]

Exactly... you can record them and just listen to them anywhere. Or like sleep with the lecture going on. I've had many dreams where if I was watching t.v. the current show or movie is playing in my head, so I know this could work. I'm going to hate studying for college... gr...

When people talk to me about trying to get together and study, I usually just come up with an excuse. And if that doesn't work, I tell them flat out "No, I hate studying. I'll do it on my own if I have to". Especially considering if I go to meet someone to study... nothing will get done. Never does.

[akitaka]

My memory: horrible short term, incredible long term. In other words, I have to like what I'm doing to pay attention enough to keep it in my head. This is why studying fails on so many levels; it's almost the same way a child's memory works. They hate studying because it just isn't natural; Confucious can tell you more than I can, on how much school sucks.

The last time I was invited I actually came along; the person asking was this one girl I knew since HS and I conceded, otherwise I felt that I'd be acting mean. Well, the second we get to the library is the second no studying happens; I'm trying to, and she doodles. And then I'm thinking, "this is why I don't study with friends".

[Myrsilus]

I am the same way. I can remember things I am exposed too over a long period of time... Give me a book and tell me to cram, you won't be helping me accomplish anything. Time is valuable, so I guess cramming is the best policy for fooling us into believing we're learning something. Well this does not apply to everyone. I've seen some people that do just fine with this system. But my brain refuses to work like that.

Interesting story... for some reason my mother and I attended a seminar that trained us to enhance our memories. It actually worked somehow, but I don't remember how it happened. Something to do with relating memories to parts of your body. I don't remember completely, but I remember that somehow afterwards I could recall things much easier.

Well you can see from this post I love talking about this type of stuff... So anyone that likes talking about the mind, psychology, and the such will get along fine with me.

[Thespis]

Go outside and take a deep breath of fresh air, unless you live in L.A. or Chicago.

[PopCulturePooka]

Hahaha funny thread.

I rarely if ever initiate conversations with people unless I know them well or in IR or I have something important too say or talk about.

When I use the net I generally have 4 or 5 IE windows and two chat progs open. I don't have the time or energy to start talking to everyone on my lists, but I'll talk back if someone IM's me.

Simple as that.

Don't give a fuck if people think I'm a snaob. I'm just a busy man.

[Frankey-eh]

I must be an odd one, because I purposely created a new sn to avoid all the people from aim-ing me about pointless stuff. And usually the only time I ever get on aim is to find people from school who can help me with studies.