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Kusoyaro
08-20-2005, 05:47 AM
EDIT: SOMEONE SHOULD MOVE THIS TO GENERAL, LOL

What do you humans think about Arnold and his bid to run for presidency?
SHould the Constitution be changed to allow immigrants to run for office? Why or why not?
Governor Receives Bush Award
Senior Bush suggests that Schwarzenegger could someday become president

Houston Chronicle | November 30, 2004

COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- Former President George H.W. Bush presented Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger an award for public service on Tuesday and suggested that the foreign-born, former action movie star could someday be elected president.

"In regard to him ever being president of the United States, my advice to you Aggies and to any of those doubters, don't bet against Arnold Schwarzenegger," Bush told about 2,500 people attending the award ceremony at Texas A&M University.

The former president didn't endorse Schwarzenegger for the nation's highest office. But he obliquely referred to recent discussions about amending the U.S. Constitution to allow a foreign-born citizen to be president. Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, currently is ineligible for the White House, but Bush said people have been underestimating him during his entire career -- as a bodybuilder, actor and now governor.

Schwarzenegger tried to downplay the presidential speculation about himself, but he said immigrants should have the opportunity to run for the office.

"I like the opportunity," he replied, eliciting much laughter, when an immigrant-questioner in the audience said he didn't believe immigrants should be president.

"Of course, not because of me. I only have an interest to fix California," the governor added. "But I think that if someone lives here a period of time ... and votes and all that and makes good contributions to the country, I think someone should have the right to also run for president."

He called the debate over a constitutional amendment a "very interesting discussion, and I hope the discussion will go on in the future in this country."

A Silicon Valley group has launched a Web site and sponsored TV commercials promoting a constitutional amendment that would benefit a Schwarzenegger presidential bid. The governor has tried to distance himself from the group. But he has been traveling extensively outside of California and, according to one newspaper report, organizers of the "Amend for Arnold" movement say he has privately given them encouragement.

Schwarzenegger campaigned for President George W. Bush during this fall's White House race. He also campaigned for former President Bush and chaired his Council on Physical Fitness and Sports.

Schwarzenegger said the former president wrote him a letter encouraging him to run for California governor a year ago, when the former actor unseated Democrat Gray Davis in a recall election. Despite lingering budgetary problems, Schwarzenegger remains hugely popular in the state.

The former president presented Schwarzenegger the 2004 George Bush Award for "excellence in public service" and praised the governor for his dreams and his perseverance.

"Arnold is not afraid to dream big, and he's put in the hard work to make that dream into a reality," Bush said.

"He's embraced the idea of public service as a noble calling," he added.

Previous recipients of the award include former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl and U.S. Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., the uncle of Schwarzenegger's wife, Maria Shriver.

The governor joked that Kennedy wanted to attend Tuesday's ceremony but couldn't.

"Thanksgiving was only five days ago, and he's still working on his dinner," Schwarzenegger quipped.

The honoree also joked that the award was a "presidential pardon for my bad movies."

The governor praised the former president for his career of public service.

He said Bush was "not only my hero but he's also my mentor and my teacher."

A constitutional amendment allowing Schwarzenegger or any other foreign-born citizen to run for president would require a two-thirds vote of both houses of Congress and ratification by 38 states.

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h2orowe
08-20-2005, 06:00 AM
Shit.......
I hate him....
He made California a joke.
Kick him out of the country.... the dirty schiesse kapf

ManiacLove
08-20-2005, 06:01 AM
What do you humans think about Arnold and his bid to run for presidency?
SHould the Constitution be changed to allow immigrants to run for office? Why or why not?

I say.. No way.

If you're born in another country and that country (lets say.. Hungary) and the country you're president of (USA) go to war... Where are your loyalties, really?

And even if he wouldn't do that, someone else down the line would.

Kusoyaro
08-20-2005, 06:09 AM
Ah. What about Peru's pm, he's a jap, or India's pm, he's punjabi, or even King Ralph?
whatever, it makes no difference to me either way. i just wanted to talk conspiracies.
it's inevitable the arnie becomes prez, because of SO MANY reasons (illuminati and their goal for one-world gove, freemasonry and their desire fro aryan global leader, prophecies from most cultures, including nostradamus, and the republican agenda itself)
lets talk about whatever, though.
if you don't want him in office, or more like, if you don't want the constitution changed, WHY? and please don't give me "founding father" argument, it's not useful if you don't know why they did it

Henjin
08-20-2005, 06:24 AM
Is he rich like me...

Kusoyaro
08-20-2005, 06:33 AM
that's not even a real argument eh

Henjin
08-20-2005, 06:34 AM
You're right. It's a song.

Urban~Ninja
08-20-2005, 10:38 PM
If they were born in the country shoudnt matter, maybe how long they have been in the country though?

Like if they have been in said country since they were anywhere between a baby and a teenager should be fine.

Kusoyaro
08-20-2005, 10:44 PM
KINETSU HAYABUSA IS A GOD

yea, that should really be a factor, of course. no one would vote for a fresh immigrant, lol, that would be bad to say the least. but i think that laws should be changed, seeing as how there are so any immigrants in th us.

Myrsilus
08-20-2005, 11:09 PM
A foreigner should live in the U.S. for a considerable amount of time before they could qualify for being president... and of course they should have an excellent grasp of politics and the U.S. Constitution, etc. Y'know, the basic stuff.

Other than that, I say it should be allowed. America is already a melting pot, so I feel this is inevitable.

Btw... I love prank calls with the Arnold soundboards.

"Who is your daddy, and what does he do?"
"I'm Detective John Kimble! I'm a cop you idiot!"

:D Just letting you all know.

Bobbybirdtree
08-20-2005, 11:26 PM
HAhahah! Me and my friend managed to get someone with that soundboard. That girl was such a ditz. :D

akitaka
08-21-2005, 01:02 AM
A foreigner should live in the U.S. for a considerable amount of time before they could qualify for being president... and of course they should have an excellent grasp of politics and the U.S. Constitution, etc. Y'know, the basic stuff.

Now if only the more recent presidents had. I'm more afraid of their cabinets than the presidents themselves; power in numbers, you know.

And remember, folks, if you aren't 100% native "Indian", then chances are your lineage branches from a foreigner. I'd stick the law to a big maybe.

I would also consider a background check for criminal activity post 21ish; thought trains tend not to change much after a person hits their primes. If there's something notable, like narcotics, I'd kill the person's chances of running a country any time later.

Myrsilus
08-21-2005, 01:07 AM
Eh what can you do? I understand your fears and agree that the cabinets can make me worry... I just hope they're competent.

Allowing foreigners to become president in the U.S. is quite the big maybe, but I don't think they should be denied the opportunity. I think it could work, as long as the man (or woman... it might happen soon.) is competent.

But Arnold for presidents... hm... no. Especially if you consider drug use. There is video of him smoking a joint and looking damn pleased about it.

Loc
08-21-2005, 01:09 AM
hehe yeah I saw that video today actually, pretty funny.
Another one where he talks about weight lifting being better than sex... :confused:

Myrsilus
08-21-2005, 01:11 AM
hehe yeah I saw that video today actually, pretty funny.
Another one where he talks about weight lifting being better than sex... :confused:
I was going to talk about that, but I felt I shouldn't... but you just messed everything up.

"It's as satisfying to me as uh... cumming! Like having sex with a woman and cumming. I'm cumming at home, cumming at the gym, cumming backstage when I pump up. I'm cumming day and night"

x.x Excellent presidential candidate.

akitaka
08-21-2005, 01:15 AM
What about Arnold pounding beer while working out to prep for Mr. Universe? Nothing like staving off the pain by killing brain cells. It's too bad I can't get the clip; it was in a video from a buddy of mine. "Milk if for babies". Eat my left hook kick.

Myrsilus
08-21-2005, 01:18 AM
Ha ha ha. I never saw that but that is so freaking contradictory to common sense and just damn hilarious. I love the guy, but he has done some pretty idiotic stuff in the past.

And I know this has nothing to do with being president (I thought Bill being questioned about Monica was stupid as all hell), but he was also supposedly a lecherous bastard. He would grope his female co-stars in movies. A few of them came forward and admitted to being touched inappropriately. Again, this has nothing to do with his chances at being president... Just him being an ass.

More people should drink milk. Dammit, it helps the bones.

setrict
08-21-2005, 01:31 AM
If you people would just make me king, this would become a non-issue.

akitaka
08-21-2005, 01:35 AM
I drink soy milk. Does that count?

Myrsilus
08-21-2005, 01:51 AM
Soy milk? I tried to drink that at one point... but I could not will myself to do it. It tasted nasty to my tongue. I'm really picky, though.

Soy is really healthy, though. So more power to you.

Kusoyaro
08-21-2005, 01:53 AM
Dude, the pump IS a lot like cumming. It's soooo....OHMYGODTHISFEELSSOFUCKINGGOODWTF?! it's amazing
Try pumping for one month and then you'll understand. It's awesome, don't knock it till you've tried it.
Scientific reason: AS your muscle tissue gets conditioned to such furious responses, the amount of blood saturation increases, thereby allowing more densely-packed fibre to form. Upon a "pump," the blood RAPIDLY fills your muscles, and then SLOWWWWLY releases, and you get this supertight feeling, and you begin to feel airy and powerfuil. it's hard to explain, it just makes you feel so good.

But yea, that alcohol shit was a bit retarded.

Myrsilus
08-21-2005, 01:59 AM
... er... I lift weight, too, y'know. It's part of my martial arts training. I still find it freaking hilarious he relates it to cumming. Other weight-lifters (and I mean true-to-life weight lifters) I've talked to find it hilarious, too.

I agree that pumping iron makes me feel really powerful and leaves this strange burning sensation that can be related to a sort of pleasurable sensation... but he really sounded way too convinced it was like cumming.

So I'll knock it all I want. Because I've been there. :p

For the record, in case some didn't realize... working out rocks. Does make the muscles feel good when you get used to it. And the results make you just damn happy.

Kusoyaro
08-21-2005, 02:08 AM
...it makes me feel almost as good as cumming...am i going to become governor of california, too?

Myrsilus
08-21-2005, 02:13 AM
You're quite qualified if it makes you feel like you're cumming.

I'd vote for you if I lived in California.

Benaire
08-21-2005, 09:40 AM
Sure it would be interesting what will happen to the USA if he does.

Praetorian
08-21-2005, 09:48 AM
I don't see what's so special about smoking a joint and enjoying it. I'm not sure if the country he was doing it in at the time had a ban on it, but if not, what's the problem, really?

Jay
08-21-2005, 10:42 AM
I don't see what's so special about smoking a joint and enjoying it. I'm not sure if the country he was doing it in at the time had a ban on it, but if not, what's the problem, really?

Probably the only reason it's illegal is that it screws up your senses and could cause you to kill someone/yourself.

Other than that I agree with you.

Dead Sexy Vocab
08-21-2005, 07:38 PM
"aaaaaaaauh-nullld"...

NeoXC
08-22-2005, 06:06 AM
I say.. No way.

If you're born in another country and that country (lets say.. Hungary) and the country you're president of (USA) go to war... Where are your loyalties, really?

And even if he wouldn't do that, someone else down the line would.


You can say the same thing about illegal immigrants that have a kid born in the US. How about any other immigrant that has a kid in this country. They could become president, as well. I believe the issue of what country you're from is irrelivant, just as long as you've lived in the US long enough.

akitaka
08-22-2005, 06:27 AM
Where are your loyalties, really?
If you don't support war, neither. If you initiate it, then you're obviously going to have to stick with the country you are running. If it's out of defense, then its best to see the situation through and only play defensively aka no invading the "enemy territory" and tossing bombs. You can make an exception with mass-destructive elements, but it would take SOME nudging on one country's behalf to have to resort to that option.

Kusoyaro
08-22-2005, 06:40 AM
i can tell you. when he becomes the prez, the last tudorrose will rise to the throne and the new world order will begin.
im so into prophecies

Myrsilus
08-22-2005, 06:42 AM
When Arnold becomes president, we will all go see the box office hit, Jingle All the Way. Then Terminator 3: The Rise of the Machines.

It is our duty as human beings... and as slaves to his will.

akitaka
08-22-2005, 06:57 AM
Yeah, and the simpsons will have their last episode. Dream on :)

Dead Sexy Vocab
08-22-2005, 07:34 AM
When Arnold becomes president, we will all go see the box office hit, Jingle All the Way. Then Terminator 3: The Rise of the Machines.

It is our duty as human beings... and as slaves to his will.

Hopefully not he'd change our way we speak.

"I'M DETECTIVE JOHN KIMBLE!!"
(Good morning!)

"Who is yo' daaaaaaaaddy, and what does he do?"
(How are you?)

"I'll be back."
(Good bye!)

Timmah
08-22-2005, 10:05 AM
I don't see arnie ever becoming president .. not when he has to compete with walken
http://www.walkenforpres.com/index.html :D

Benaire
08-22-2005, 10:42 AM
Go Walken he is the best!!!

Dead Sexy Vocab
08-22-2005, 06:31 PM
Great, another actor-gone-president.

Myrsilus
08-22-2005, 11:01 PM
Hell, I'd vote for Walken. :D

He's the best there is. Can you imagine his acceptance speach?

"Wow... I feel so... BELATED. It's like I just had my first piece of pie and ice cream... On my head! Your tongue goes wild to get to it, go right through your brain!"

.......

Dead Sexy Vocab
08-22-2005, 11:04 PM
Hell, I'd vote for Walken. :D

He's the best there is. Can you imagine his acceptance speach?

"Wow... I feel so... BELATED. It's like I just had my first piece of pie and ice cream... On my head! Your tongue goes wild to get to it, go right through your brain!"

.......

For some reason, reading that made me think about Adam West, 'cause of his stupidity in Family Guy.

akitaka
08-22-2005, 11:32 PM
Don't forget Jesse Ventura (http://www.nndb.com/people/667/000022601/). Though he's out of office now.

Myrsilus
08-22-2005, 11:34 PM
He's cool, but he'd never stand a chance. Not against Arnie or Walken.

Walken would destroy his mind with his amazing... speech patterns.

akitaka
08-22-2005, 11:50 PM
Don't forget his dance. Fatboy-slim FTW.

Myrsilus
08-22-2005, 11:54 PM
I love that video man. What's better than Walken gettin' down with his bad self? Nothing, I tell you. I guarantee it.

He'd destroy Ventura's mind, then dance a bit and fly away.

Walken is the greatest American alive.

akitaka
08-23-2005, 12:05 AM
I don't know where Ventura is now, but I heard his policy on governing was to run for a bit, then leave and let another good man have his share of doing the right things. It's nice and all, but I think there are just too many goons now for that to work.

As for Walken...at least you would be able to tell if he wrote his speeches or not; I mean, his talk pattern is just unforgable. It grinds my mind just thinking of talking...with...PASSION.

Myrsilus
08-23-2005, 12:11 AM
Yeah I think Ventura actually did an alright job... Nothing so great, nothing so bad. I would like to see more dedicated politicians taking over instead of people like Ventura.

Walken's speeches would probably inspire me to be a politician.

"Clean air... I think that we need to be able to breath... I mean, COME ON! ... I like my clean air, the BEST. Stop smoking."

:D

akitaka
08-23-2005, 12:19 AM
"...and now...follow me...do....the FATBOY-SLIM" (points to fatboy-slim)

(fatboy-slim nods)

*party ensues*

Myrsilus
08-23-2005, 12:22 AM
See? :D Walken for president I say. America would be one hell of a happy place. And after every speech he made, there would be a dance with music by Fatboy-Slim.

Join Walken.

Dead Sexy Vocab
08-23-2005, 12:23 AM
"...and now...follow me...do....the FATBOY-SLIM" (points to fatboy-slim)

(fatboy-slim nods)

*party ensues*

MUSIC MAKES ME LOSE CONTROL!!!!

valentine
08-23-2005, 12:30 AM
The Walken for president thing is fake, unfortunately.

Oh, how I wish it were true though.