Why Microsoft is a bitch

[Overkongen]

So, it's like, I pretty much like the xbox. Naturally, I'd probably like the 360, too, but I can't know. I only know what Microsoft tells me, and well, there's not much trust left to give them.

Here's my story. I used to own an xbox. However, a guy I know asked me if I wanted to sell it to him. He's no serious gamer, so he wasn't gonna buy the 360, but well, I looked on the xbox pages (this is about 1½ month ago), and saw Microsoft telling innocent children about how the 360 would be backwards compatible, so that you could play all your old xbox games on the 360. I had a fair bit of schoolwork due, so I wouldn't be able to game much until the release of the 360 anyway, so naturally I sold the machine to him.

I've looked at the games I have lying around, there's 14 of them. 4 of them have patches released. Wow, will you look at that. 10 games I own are now useless. The guy I sold the xbox to isn't really interested in selling the machine back (which is fair, a deal is a deal), so that means I'm fucked. Fucked by Microsoft.

I'm looking around for another xbox, I think I might have a friend who's willing to sell his though most likely to a higher price than I sold mine, but after this, I'm not gonna spend a lot of time thinking about the 360. I know a lot of people disagree, but to me, it seems Sony is the company that can be trusted. Microsoft is another story entirely.

[kyaa the catlord]

Just wait until it turns your games into puddles of melted plastic, or in layman's terms, velveeta.

[Bob]

So, it's like, I pretty much like the xbox. Naturally, I'd probably like the 360, too, but I can't know. I only know what Microsoft tells me, and well, there's not much trust left to give them.

Here's my story. I used to own an xbox. However, a guy I know asked me if I wanted to sell it to him. He's no serious gamer, so he wasn't gonna buy the 360, but well, I looked on the xbox pages (this is about 1½ month ago), and saw Microsoft telling innocent children about how the 360 would be backwards compatible, so that you could play all your old xbox games on the 360. I had a fair bit of schoolwork due, so I wouldn't be able to game much until the release of the 360 anyway, so naturally I sold the machine to him.

I've looked at the games I have lying around, there's 14 of them. 4 of them have patches released. Wow, will you look at that. 10 games I own are now useless. The guy I sold the xbox to isn't really interested in selling the machine back (which is fair, a deal is a deal), so that means I'm fucked. Fucked by Microsoft.

I'm looking around for another xbox, I think I might have a friend who's willing to sell his though most likely to a higher price than I sold mine, but after this, I'm not gonna spend a lot of time thinking about the 360. I know a lot of people disagree, but to me, it seems Sony is the company that can be trusted. Microsoft is another story entirely.

Ill sell you one for 50 dollars, if you pay for the shipping

[Overkongen]

Happy Birthday, Bob!

[Bob]

Happy Birthday, Bob!


Its not my birthday

[Overkongen]

Yes it is, your profile says so.

[Bob]

Yes it is, your profile says so.


If its on the internets it must be true, right?

[Overkongen]

Oh, you lied? Happy Microsoft-day, then.

[karob]

You should never buy the first batch of anything. It's just bad juju man. I will wait until/if Microsoft puts a HDdvd drive into the 360 before I consider buying it. Otherwise I will just wait for the PS3.

[Zonehunter1]

Plus the thing is a hazard to itself. Overheating anyone?

[Kass]

It kind of sounds like you screwed yourself. You sold a perfectly good gaming system because the grass looked greener. The 360 is $500 minimum. Sorry, but there's no video game system in the world worth that.

[Bob]

The 360 is $500 minimum.


Only if youre retarded

[more cheerios]

Only if youre retarded
People are seeling core systems for 1k+ on Ebay.

[Bob]

People are seeling core systems for 1k+ on Ebay.

Cause nobody retarded uses ebay?

[Overkongen]

In that case, it sounds wrong. The only reason I sold the old xbox was that Microsoft had promised that I would be able to play all my old games on the new machine. If that were true, I would have bought the new machine, and never written this thread.

To me, this makes it sound like Microsoft screwed me.

[more cheerios]

Cause nobody retarded uses ebay?
Not everyone who uses Ebay is 'retarded' and there are a hell of a lot of people bidding on these.

[Dr. Hobo is my hero]

Well eventually it will play all of them or so MS says. I was on the fence too but I picked one up because the only 2 xbox games I had left played on the 360. And either way much like the PS2, backwards compatability is good to have but the majority of people who own the system rarely play the old games on it. Sure it's good to have in the beginning because launch lineups are usually pretty slim but after awhile backwards compatability is usually useless. But yeah MS is a bitch just like Sony and their own hype machine, and Nintendo and their wacky proprietary formats/ideas that can potentially scare away developers.

And the overheating isn't as big an issue as it appears. I've had no problems and none of my customers (save the one system that had a cracked faceplate from shipping) have either. Though bugs are to be expected, wait for the ps3 and I'm sure it will have its own media worthy problem.

[Kass]

You wanted a newer, better, fancier system that still played your games when you had a perfectly good system that played all your games right now. I'm sorry, but I can't work up the sympathy for someone who wanted a bigger better toy being unable to play some games because he sold his old toy without making sure the new toy worked.

Since when has new software/hardware ever come out without glitches? Ever? Microsoft said all xbox games would eventually work on the 360. That's sometime between now and when hell freezes over. Snow isn't in the forecast.

You should have waited until you had the new system before you sold the old one. You should have read the info blurb on every xbox 360 ad. I don't play video games and even I knew the games weren't compatible now.

As for price, I'm sorry. If you don't buy a game and only get one controller, you can get an xbox 360 for $300. Not that you'd have anything to play on it. It would be a pretty paperweight in front of your TV. And this is only if you can get your hands on one. The stores in the DC area are sold out indefinitely. You either get damned lucky or head to the online auctions and pay triple the price. Of course, you can also buy an xbox 360 BOX on ebay for over $1k. Game system not included.

Microsoft only put out a typical product. Barely out of beta, buggy and full of promises. You jumped the gun and sold something that worked just fine.

[Zonehunter1]

Here's the odd thing xbox was made in 18 months and this was over 3 years

Isn't that a problem when something that takes less time to make works better than the successor?

[NERD]

I just want to point out that Bob stole Fujin's avatar, which confused me. Wow, so much for being original.

And I'd like to point out that people are only crying foul about the limited backward capability of Xbox 360, because frankly there is no worthy game to play. I take that back. There's no game they would enjoy as much as Halo 1 and 2.

[Bob]

I just want to point out that Bob stole Fujin's avatar.

And what, nugga? AND WHAT?

[NERD]

And what, nugga? AND WHAT?

Ah, grow up.

[Bob]

Ah, grow up.

Your mom .

[Kass]

Oh both of you knock it off.

[FireWolf238]

.......2 year olds
ohh yea and Fuck microshit, vote PENGUIN!

[Overkongen]

Kass, I see yer point, but as far as I remember, Microsoft never said eventually. Apparently, I'm just an über-noob, who thought that consoles usually get released without tons of glitches, but just because my atari, my really old nintendo, both my segas, my PS2 and my xbox were free of mistakes, doesn't make it plausible that the 360 should be.

According to what Microsoft said, the 360 would be able to do everything the xbox could, and more. Because of this, I think it seemed like a good idea to sell the xbox, instead of waiting for it to become worthless. If Microsoft had indeed made it backwards compatible, it would have been a good idea. I haven't seen any of these info blurbs (I have been actively searching for info on the 360, though), maybe they only have those in NoVA.

But anyway, yeah, I learned my lesson, I won't be trusting anything from Microsoft anytime soon again.

[co_delphi]

To take a different side on this Microsoft bashing thread I feel the need to point out a couple of factors I learned over the course of time. I used to work at a electronics repair facility and we serviced game systems as well. The playstation 2 has a wide range of games and all but the machine is full of substandard parts and is prone to breaking. The laser for the most part has a play life of typically 2 years. The mainboard has a grounding issue that caused it to overheat and fry itself (it could have been fixed by changing the power cord to have a grounding prong.) It is designed to stand on it's end making it far to easy to fall over and screw up the alignment, and if you laid it on it's side it tended to suck hairballs, dust, dirt and whatnot, not get proper ventilation and fry itself.

And to make it a balanced report the xbox had it's flaws as well only difference is that they were fewer and far between. The first generation tended to use Thompson brand disc drives which were prone to breaking pretty regularly (but they did fix that) and the hard drives they used were Quantum Fireballs (look it up, there are pages of complaints about these hard drives). But more importantly the xbox had a decent weight to it making it so it generally stayed in place, had detatchable cords so even when you tripped on the cords you didn't pull the system with you, and it had proper ventilation and grounding. Unfortunately it's game selection was severely lacking in comparison to the ps2.

Also note that in the 2 years I worked at the facility we never got a single game cube brought into us. This could be because they never broke, or it could be because they sucked and no one owned any to break.

[Xuande]

Another reason Microsoft sucks: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/221811_msftreed27.html

They pay Ralph Reed, radical religious conservative, $20,000 a month. And now the bastard's running for political office in my home state. A bit about Mr. Reed: He was fired from the UGA newspaper as a student for plagiarizing someone else's article about Mahatma Gandhi being a ninny. He worked as the executive director of the Christian Coalition until he resigned while under investigation for embezzling money.

So, yeah. Microsoft has great taste in business partners.