My first girlfriend in Japan.

[PopCulturePooka]

Sorry about the colours, stupid formatting crap...

Maybe I was dumb. Maybe I had a severe case of yellow fever. Maybe I was pussy addled. But the story of my first Japanese girlfriend is quite pathetic.



About 6 months into my stint in Japan I had finally become settled and started enjoying myself somewhat. I had left the ongoing joke that was my Nova supplied apartment and started living in, surprisingly, a rather nice gaijin house occupied with some very nice people.



During this time, what had started off as silly flirting with a 'cute' college girl by the name of Sayaka (20), a student at my Nova school, turned into a relationship. For weeks before everyone at my school had been pointing out to me that Sayaka had an obvious 'crush' on me. I didn't notice at first, as we spent most of out lessons and Nova time teasing each other.



Anyway, our first 'date' was good. I walked her home one night and we went to a park near her house for a moonlight picnic. Had a nice long talk about things and then 'made out' a little bit. As she lived with her parents she had to go home by a certain time and our date ended.



Few days later after my shift ended we agreed too meet. She asked that meet her outside a department store overlooking the Nova school. WE meet and sit down on a wooden bench and chat for a while. After a bit she asked in that typical, and after time ear piercing, cutesy voice 'Heath can I ask a question?’ When I said yes she pulled out an English textbook, with certain pages marked, and a notebook. Because she had had a Nova lesson and college that day she apparently had one or two questions to ask. I happily answered them. Soon after she had to go home, so we kissed goodbye and off she goes.



Oh yes, all our 'dates' were in English, 100%. No Japanese spoken.



Our next 'date' happened much like the first. Department store, wooden bench, talking. And again, the English textbook comes out and she wants me to help her. Stupidly, those little warning bells had not yet started ringing.



By this point I was asking her on more substantial dates. Eg movies, dinner somewhere, trips to Tokyo. She always refused. 'I'm busy', 'Too much homework', 'I don't like Tokyo' etc. She went out to a party with her college friends but refused to let me go, even when her friends apparently asked that I come.



In the far reaches of the back of my mind I here a gentle tingling, like bells.



The third date was in a park. On a winters night. With very low lighting. Perfect I think. Its freezing fucking cold and I had left my beanie (woolen hate) at home. Somehow she manages to ask the question though. 'Can I ask some question?’



This time I refuse. 'It’s too dark, too cold and I don't want too'.

Out comes that ugly fucking puffer fish face Japanese girls do.

'But you are... teacher, you should help me'. Somewhere in the distance there’s a single loud gonging sound, like a clock tower bell ringing just once.

'It’s too dark...' I mumble, not happy.

And she... PULLS OUT A FUCKING FLASHLIGHT ALONG WITH HER ENGLISH TEXT AND NOTEPAD.

'Now its not'.

That night there wasn't a goodbye kiss.



She doesn't mail me for a day or two then on my day off in the morning I get a text message from her. She really wants to see me, she is sorry; she has important things to talk about. Thinking maybe she is for real I meet her in Sizeria. Over lunch we make small talk. When cakes are served I ask what the important thing she needs was.



'Oh, tomorrow I have English exam at college, you must help me study'.



The fact we were in a public place was the only thing stopping my top being blown. From here on out my days were filled with the deafening clang on alarm bells being sounded every time Sayaka was around.



Trying very hard not to just rip her a new one then and there and start hunting a new job the next day, I helped her. Very half arsed helping. We then had a tense conversation about how I won't be helping her again with English. She tried to do the apologetic thing and went home 'crying'.



Things came to a head a few days later. She asked if she could come over to my house one night to 'cook dinner'. Finally I thought, a chance to get some real 'foreign culture' into her. Being quite confident I knew what was on the menu that night, I make a big effort tidying up. Around 9pm she texts me, almost to my station. I do the 15 minute walk on the winding streets to the station, collect her and we walk back.



We have a pleasant enough dinner. She's not a great cook by any stretch. My cooking was better. Then head up to my room. I'm in the mood for some 'teaching' now. As annoying as this idiot was becoming, she was hot, and I figure for all my frustrations it’s about time I got something back.



We are making out for a bit, getting hot and heavy and the various states of undress start. I go to get 'something' and notice her English textbooks poking out of her bag. She wasn't happy when that bag got locked in my closet.



While fooling around we are chatting.



Little known too her for a few weeks I had been having Japanese lessons with a fellow teacher at school. My Japanese was, still is, very useless. But I wanted to surprise her. Thought maybe me speaking some of her language may improve what was a pretty dud relationship.



So during our chat I speak some Japanese. It was the first time she heard me speak Japanese beyond a few one word utterances.

Suddenly she jumps bolt upright. You know those old movies? When a records playing just before something dramatic happens, then suddenly stops, making a scratching sound? I swear that fucking happened right then.



'What are you saying?' She asked, shocked.

'Babe I've been practicing Japanese, I wanted to surprise you. Now we can also speak Japanese, not always English'.



She looks at me, suddenly serious.

'No' she replies, matter of fact. 'You are foreign boyfriend. So we must always speak English, because you must teach me English. No Japanese, only English. Also you are teacher. So teach me English only'.



Suddenly, amongst the shattering sound of bells, the various shades of red I was seeing and the steam blowing through my nose made me forget all about job security and the like. I threw her clothes at her, and her bag, with her fucking ratty English text and tossed her out the door.



I giggled at the speed she must have had to run in her idiotic shoes to do the 15 minute run to the station in the 10 minutes before last train.

The next two days were my days off and I got more than a few near obsessive mails from her begging forgiveness. Yet no calls from work to report to head office. I went to work a few days later; she was there with a 'love letter' again begging forgiveness. It sat in my letter box at work for the next 12 months.



Funnily enough she never mentioned a word to anyone at work.



But that was a burn I made sure never happened again.

[tekkan]

Good for you man.

I guess it became obvious she was just using you. But I can't blame you for trying that one last time. Sometimes we just think with the wrong head. :)

[Azrael]

Good read. Yeah, the English Whores are sadly all too common here.

If it makes you feel any better, "my first girlfriend in Japan" story is 1.6 billion times more pathetic than yours. You knew when to kick her to the curb. Pierre will attest to this.

[D-pad]

Go pooka, you go man!

[Myrsilus]

Sorry you had to deal with that crap Pooka. I'm glad you were wise enough to end things right there. I, personally, am a very patient person but I would have been extremely pissed in being used like that. I don't understand how women can be like that, but then again it's not our place to understand.

Good story.

[hanacker]

Well at least you got some nice booty before the last breakup, right?

Right?

Oh :(

I don't understand how women can be like that, but then again it's not our place to understand.

Come on. The girl was just trying to get some free English lessons. You've never tried to get anything for free? She could have been a bit more subtle about it and used some more tact but I don't think her general idea was wrong. When I first got to Japan, everyone was telling me the best way to improve your Japanese would be to date a Japanese girl. And I definitely think it's true. When I started dating in Japan my goals were:
1) Improve Japanese
2) Get sex
And I doubt I'm unique in that.

[Pierrot le Fou]

My first 'girlfriend' in Japan is my current one. All the previous ones were just for sex, pretty-much for the reason you're describing. I would go to Japanese bars to try to find girlfriends, and foreign bars if I just wanted to get laid.

I am a bad man.

[PopCulturePooka]

That happened to me after Sayaka.

Once a healthy deal of cynicism set in I became quite comfortable indoing the time honored technique of 'private lessons'.

[hapacheese]

First Japanese girlfriend claimed she was the heir to the Japanese throne. (Also tried to kill me on the freeway by trying to get me to follow her in a car as she weaved through traffic, then cut across 4 lanes of LA freeway to get to an off-ramp. I just kept driving and went home.)

Second Japanese girlfriend was bipolar. Threw knives at me. Dunked the cat in the sink. But man, she was hot.

Third Japanese girlfriend was a childhood friend of mine that I hadn't seen in about 10 years. She was getting over a bad period in her life, but wasn't completely over the drama. Just too emotional.

Fourth Japanese girlfriend... well, I'm engaged to after 7 years :D

[Pierrot le Fou]

This is my one and only shot at the Japanese girlfriend concept. If this fails I am going to be using them for plentiful and frequent sex until I return to the US, at which point I will gamble with another American, or learn Portuguese and find a hot Brazilian chick. Hell, anywhere in South America would suit me fine. Nice figure, good food, and dying for a visa mayhaps?

[Azrael]

I still think Japanese girls are highly overrated.

But I'll admit to a certain degree of bias here.

[D-pad]

I still think Japanese girls are highly overrated.

But I'll admit to a certain degree of bias here.
Ha! Over-rated?!? Japanese chicks love me long time!!! Must bone all aisans!!! :D :cool: :D

[Pierrot le Fou]

Overrated by you and the rest of the yellow-fever furriners out there perhaps. Certainly not by me. Well, save for just idle sex. There are so many thin ones that are perfectly acceptable for a night of fun that they're good in that respect. Plus in general I think American women are too much effort for a one-night stand.

Maybe I'm just an ass.

[Azrael]

They can't be overrated by me cause I think they suck. =P

I agree though that American women are much too difficult. Out of all our female friends here, you notice which ones are still single and celibate?

But while Japanese women are much easier, that particular trick still alludes me. =/

[Myrsilus]

Hm... from everything I've heard about Japanese girls I'd say that I would not like to deal with them. They seem very materialistic and very dependent on men, which is something I don't dig. Not even for one-night stands, since I'm not very sexual at all. I save that for my future wife.

I do like Asian girls, though. I like their features, but I do prefer an American woman. American women are somewhat harder to have short flings with since they will likely expect much more than just sex. It's all about commitment in the west. Well all that and they usually put up a lot of resistance.

And for the record, I have used people to get things for free. But I do not go to great lengths when I try this. If they can't be used to attain what I need, I do it myself. Mom always taught me that.

[hapacheese]

I dunno, from the talks I have with friends/coworkers/etc, American women are just as much into the flings as Japanese women.

While I may not have had the best first two experiences, I think you guys are simply meeting the wrong crowds =\

Az, if/when you move back to the Bay Area, there's plenty of good ones back here :D

[Pierrot le Fou]

Who's talking about great lengths (other than the girls in reference to Az's shlong)?

There are plenty of women here who enjoy sex for the sake of sex. No relationship. No big long involved courtship rituals. Just down and dirty fucking for the sake of fucking. And that is quite enjoyable says I.

[Myrsilus]

They are into flings, but they can only do this for so long. And I stand by my observations that they make it difficult to get in bed with. It's not always easy. Unless of course you are looking for a truly, honestly loose woman. Then have fun.

And girls in school experiences don't count. They all want to have sex so they can have a little rep.

Edit: I say great lengths because I am extremely restrained in matters such as this. What seems casual concerning casual sex for any of you is a different matter to me. I'm not saying it should be the same for you guys, it's just like that for me. I can't have flings, I am much too prudent.

[D-pad]

And girls in school experiences don't count. They all want to have sex so they can have a little rep.
I wish........

[Azrael]

I think you guys are simply meeting the wrong crowds =\

Az, if/when you move back to the Bay Area, there's plenty of good ones back here :D
Where does one meet the right crowds? This has been bugging me (and some friends) for a few months now. I haven't quite figured that out yet.

But then again, I somehow suck at nailing the wrong crowds too. =/

There are good Japanese women in the Bay Area (or did you mean women in general)? ...Meh. When I go back...I'm not gonna target any one race specifically, but I'm definitely not giving any preference to Japanese girls.

[hanacker]

When I was visiting New York City, I found there were lots of easy American girls at the bars near NYU. It was a much nicer situation than I'd found in Hawaii or in college in upstate New York. I guess it helped that girls found the guy I was staying with to be pretty hot. But even taking the less hot of two girls was still pretty good. ;)

[hapacheese]

I would hope that you wouldn't simply target them, but was just saying that they're there if you know where to go.

Used to be a place in Berkeley (Cafe Jun - a karaoke bar), but they closed down. Now, some of the more popular places are an ramen-ya/izakaya in San Mateo called Himawari that a lot of Japanese girls I know go to.

And man, I met a girl in college who was just a freak. She was a self-proclaimed (and please excuse the word... I feel dirty just saying it) "ニガ・ラバー". I'm sure she'd be the type of wrong crowd you are asking about.

[stillbornsinger]

Interesting story, I think I've been lucky enough to dodge the english whores, perhaps because I'm quite a bit farther from Tokyo.

See if you can hook up with one of her friends, I bet you one of them would be able to appreciate you for what you are.

My experiences with Japanese girls have been great, had one girlfriend for around 9 months, she was completely awesome... only really broke up because I am on deployment... still talking though, so will probably resume when I return.

The best way to find a decent Japanese girlfriend is to network... everyone is friends with everyone so you can find your way into a group with a girl who is a bit more mature and open to the idea of a gaijin boyfriend. Work on making friends with the girl at first and spend about a week evaluating if its a good idea to get into a relationship or not with her. Then go for it!

[CuPoNoOdLe]

This is my one and only shot at the Japanese girlfriend concept. If this fails I am going to be using them for plentiful and frequent sex until I return to the US, at which point I will gamble with another American, or learn Portuguese and find a hot Brazilian chick.

Wow, seems to me that women are just there to fuck... x_x thanks for sucking the life out of us.

Ok, i might not know much.. or whatever.. but im sure glad it's harder to get into the pants of an American women. It just means we have a larger sense of pride.

[hapacheese]

Noodles: I think his point was that if that's all the women were interested in, then he'd be willing to oblige. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults having fun if that's what they want. If he was lying to get into their pants or whatever, that's another thing entirely.

[Pierrot le Fou]

Yes, God forbid that I enjoy having consentual sex. Boggles the mind how sick and twisted I must be, eh? Relationships are great if they're a good fit. If they aren't, then you're better off just getting the rocks off every now and again for fun while looking for the next girl.

[ChronoSphere]

You dodged a bullet there man.

But by all means, have fun with em :P

[Hito]

Good job, Pooka! Just reading this story gave me an urge to beat that woman like a 50's housewife.

Anyway, if I may say so, I've always found Canadian women (me being Canadian has NOTHING to do with it, really) to be quite good looking. I mean, damn, you want curves? Some may say there is no difference between Canadian and American girls, but man, those people don't know what they're talking about (though, keep in mind that I have met an American girl that could basically convince me to commit seppuku).
But hey, if there's one thing I know it's that Japanese girls are almost (in)famous for being as easy as they are!

[CuPoNoOdLe]

Wow, that's kind of sad.. that Japanese girls are so called "Easy". I guess Japanese girls ARE highly overrated.

Hum.. now i want to get myself a Japanese boyfriend and see what happens!

[ChronoSphere]

Good luck.... being an American you're not exactly the submissive type I think they look for.

[Jay]

So let me get this straight, Pooka - she got pissed off because you refused to help her.

Isn't there an easy solution to that?

"Hey, Pooka (I'm assuming your name is Heath, as you used it in your story, but I won't use it in case I'm wrong), can you help me with XXX paper?"

"Yes, of course. If you put out a bit I'll help."

But then, maybe I'm just a bastard.

[D-pad]

So let me get this straight, Pooka - she got pissed off because you refused to help her.

Isn't there an easy solution to that?

"Hey, Pooka (I'm assuming your name is Heath, as you used it in your story, but I won't use it in case I'm wrong), can you help me with XXX paper?"

"Yes, of course. If you put out a bit I'll help."

But then, maybe I'm just a bastard.
Nah, I agree with your logic Jay.

[PopCulturePooka]

So let me get this straight, Pooka - she got pissed off because you refused to help her.

Isn't there an easy solution to that?

"Hey, Pooka (I'm assuming your name is Heath, as you used it in your story, but I won't use it in case I'm wrong), can you help me with XXX paper?"

"Yes, of course. If you put out a bit I'll help."

But then, maybe I'm just a bastard.
If you work all day mining coal, do you enjoy going home to dig up the yard?

[D-pad]

If you work all day mining coal, do you enjoy going home to dig up the yard?
Does your yard have a vagina?

[PopCulturePooka]

Later on I was fine with the concept of give and take in this regard.

Let the girl speak a bit of english and get her foreign guy fantasy out the way. I'm juggy down with it yo.

But the fact is that this girl used me, there was no unspoken agreement that this was a 'sex friends' deal.

She really did try and say she was my girlfriend, that we had a relationshop etc while basically pumping me for english.

She was also quite batshit insane.

[Jay]

If you work all day mining coal, do you enjoy going home to dig up the yard?

Hmm, fair enough. I still think an it's an easy way of getting sex though.

[tekkan]

Lets face it.

Oriental women are just sneaky and manipulative. You know it, I know it, they know it. Well actually we probably don't know it till its too late.

[hapacheese]

Gah. Tsk tsk with the "oriental" comment ;)
(Don't bother me none, but there is some folks what don't like them words.)

Asian/caucasian/black/hispanic/etc men/women are all manipulative. It's not race-specific.

Noodles: I've never been propositioned for "easy sex" by an Asian woman... only white women, actually. But, that being said, Japanese women are sometimes less prudish than American women (but isn't that generally the case with the rest of the world?). It all has to do with what morals you were raised with.

[tekkan]

LOL. :D Well I was gonna say asian, but then that includes all non-orientals, so i decided to use oriental instead of "azn" :D

Ya, I know. I've just had more experience with manipulative "azn" women than non-azn women. I guess me being "azn" dosn't help to much either :P Or the fact that I prefer "azn" women. :D

[hapacheese]

Brain... melting... must not... read... "azn" word...

[Beebs]

Good read Pooka. Helps the rest of us better see the warning signs. I'm also glad she never made an official complaint about it. Regardless of the beatdown NOVA took for firing that one teacher years ago for similar reasons, they could have made your life a living hell (moreso than what you remember it). :)

[Henjin]

Brain... melting... must not... read... "azn" word...

Do you not like that term? Because I always thought it was stupid/offensive... And then they changed the I-Channel to 'AZN...' I don't like telling people what channel I watch anymore. Heh.

[tekkan]

Brain... melting... must not... read... "azn" word...

AZN R TEH COOL

:D

[hapacheese]

Hm. Perhaps doing a GIS for "Azn" while at work to find a funny pic to post was not such a good idea...

[CuPoNoOdLe]

Do you not like that term? Because I always thought it was stupid/offensive... And then they changed the I-Channel to 'AZN...' I don't like telling people what channel I watch anymore. Heh.

Well, i never thought "AZN" was an offensive word. Now, when i see people using it in their screen names, i just can't help but feel embaressed for them.

When i first saw the "AZN" channel i laughed so hard to myself.

*sigh*... i used to be so "AZN PRIDE" and now im like... what was i thinking back then?

[tekkan]

I don't think AZN is offensive either. Its more of a word that the MTV gen of "azn" kids have given to themselves.

Like how the MTV gen black people use the N word.

Was part of that group once. Over it. I use to use the screen name azntekkan.

Now it is just tekkan. :D

[Jay]

Brain... melting... must not... read... "azn" word...

So it's okay to type azn but not okay to read it? :p

[PopCulturePooka]

Good read Pooka. Helps the rest of us better see the warning signs. I'm also glad she never made an official complaint about it. Regardless of the beatdown NOVA took for firing that one teacher years ago for similar reasons, they could have made your life a living hell (moreso than what you remember it). :)
Lol maybe.

A teacher at my school was fired for breaking that rule.

He had slept with at LEAST 15 students in a one year period. At least. As in those 15 are the ones I know off.

Nova tried to bully browbeat him into quitting his job, into leaving the country, into vacating his apartment well before he legally had too. Except... they lost.

He voluntarilly got fired because Nova had to pay him two months wages as severance. He told Nova he wasn't leaving the apartment until he absolutely had too (and fucked two more students there before he went). Made Nova offer him assistance in claiming unemployment. And finally had the union inform Nova that they really couldn't legally have fired him and to not bother him anymore.

He pwn3d Nova so badly that he had 4 months holiday, pretty much on their dime.

[hanacker]

Wow, that's kind of sad.. that Japanese girls are so called "Easy". I guess Japanese girls ARE highly overrated.

Hum.. now i want to get myself a Japanese boyfriend and see what happens!

You say "Easy" like it's a bad thing. Would "not having any social, cultural, or religious hangups about sex" sound better? It's not like every girl is out there running around trying to get laid, but they're not going to pass on it just because some people think sex is bad. As long as everyone uses protection (I have no idea how often Japanese guys do having never slept with one. My girlfriend claims to have (almost?) always been with guys using condoms and is pretty insistent about my using them), I don't see a problem. And as "easy" as Japanese girls are, Americans are still having sex two or three times more often than Japanese.

[tekkan]

Lol maybe.

A teacher at my school was fired for breaking that rule.

He had slept with at LEAST 15 students in a one year period. At least. As in those 15 are the ones I know off.

Nova tried to bully browbeat him into quitting his job, into leaving the country, into vacating his apartment well before he legally had too. Except... they lost.

He voluntarilly got fired because Nova had to pay him two months wages as severance. He told Nova he wasn't leaving the apartment until he absolutely had too (and fucked two more students there before he went). Made Nova offer him assistance in claiming unemployment. And finally had the union inform Nova that they really couldn't legally have fired him and to not bother him anymore.

He pwn3d Nova so badly that he had 4 months holiday, pretty much on their dime.

WOW. He pwned them good.

But I wouldn't want that guy teaching my kids. Seriously. Unless you're teaching university or something, you should not be sleeping with your students.

That is just wrong.

[hanacker]

But I wouldn't want that guy teaching my kids. Seriously. Unless you're teaching university or something, you should not be sleeping with your students.

Why not? It's not like English teachers in Japan at places like NOVA are real teachers with any authority. You can't sleep your way to an A like you could in a real school since you're studying purely for your own benefit. I can see why the administrators wouldn't want it going on but how does consensual sex hurt the teacher or the student?

[tekkan]

Well one, I don't want my underaged kid having sex. Concensual or not.

Two, I'm sending my kid to school to learn, not to engage in sexual activity. I dunno. I've always considered teachers to be a profession that deserved great respect, because they are the ones who teach our children and guide them.

It may just be me, but I've always thought that teachers would take the moral high ground and refuse such activities.

[CuPoNoOdLe]

You say "Easy" like it's a bad thing. Would "not having any social, cultural, or religious hangups about sex" sound better? It's not like every girl is out there running around trying to get laid, but they're not going to pass on it just because some people think sex is bad. As long as everyone uses protection (I have no idea how often Japanese guys do having never slept with one. My girlfriend claims to have (almost?) always been with guys using condoms and is pretty insistent about my using them), I don't see a problem. And as "easy" as Japanese girls are, Americans are still having sex two or three times more often than Japanese.

I never said sex was a bad thing? I just think it's sad that it's come down to calling Japanese girls "easy". I mean.. i've always thought Japanese girls were angels and all that other stuff they want you to think, but now that i've found out the truth.. it's kind of sad. Not only would i not want to be called "easy" i surely don't WANT to be easy.

Geez.. sorry if i offended anyone.

[hanacker]

I never said sex was a bad thing? I just think it's sad that it's come down to calling Japanese girls "easy". I mean.. i've always thought Japanese girls were angels and all that other stuff they want you to think, but now that i've found out the truth.. it's kind of sad. Not only would i not want to be called "easy" i surely don't WANT to be easy.

Geez.. sorry if i offended anyone.

You didn't offend anyone. And I don't know if I'd say that most Japanese girls are easy. Most would greatly prefer a relationship (preferably leading to marriage...) over sex. It's just that due to

A) Like most girls they go through a sexually curious stage between puberty and about 23
B) Japanese culture and religion has very few negative things to say about sex before marriage
C) Foreign guys are kind of exotic and some girls want to date/sleep with them just for the experience

it's not hard for a reasonably attractive (and not impossible for an unattractive) foreign guy (preferably white with blonde eyes and blue hair) to find a Japanese girl who's willing to sleep with him. I think this makes the perception of Japanese girls being easy a bit greater than the reality (since guys won't generally come across the girls who are too shy and reserved to sleep with them) but either way sex has much less of a negative stigma in Japan than America.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this anymore so it's time to stop writing.

[General_Admission]

...it's not hard for a reasonably attractive (and not impossible for an unattractive) foreign guy (preferably white with blonde eyes and blue hair) to find a Japanese girl...

BWUAHAHAHHAA! I guess aliens are pretty exotic. :D

[PopCulturePooka]

Well one, I don't want my underaged kid having sex. Concensual or not.

Two, I'm sending my kid to school to learn, not to engage in sexual activity. I dunno. I've always considered teachers to be a profession that deserved great respect, because they are the ones who teach our children and guide them.

It may just be me, but I've always thought that teachers would take the moral high ground and refuse such activities.I fucked a student too. She was 27. My 'real' girlfriend, which was actually a very good relationship, was a student at a different Nova. She was 20.

What now?

You see, Nova is a private company. It is NOT a 'real' school thing like JET.

What Nova is is an English Conversation school. Students, more realistically customers, pay big money to attend 45 minute lessons to speak english conversationally. Age ranges from 2 (kids) all the way to... damn we had some 80 year olds. Most students are adults.

Its not a serious educational institute, the people who work there aren't really teachers. They are Conversation English Instructors.

Eventually i'll actually write something about Nova, as realistically, Nova or a company like it, is the way most people will get to Japan for livin.

[hanacker]

I fucked a couple of the volunteer Japanese teachers (more like conversation partners than teachers) at the city-run school I was taking lessons at. Is that wrong too? Did I get taken advantage of by Japanese girls who misused their position to sleep with foreign guys? I wish it had been that simple, but unfortunately it wasn't.

[Azrael]

He had slept with at LEAST 15 students in a one year period. At least. As in those 15 are the ones I know off.
Dayum. Go Nova!

And people are still telling me to hit on Ms. Americanized.

[spaik]

and ruin your relationship with one of the coolest people you know, just because you want a piece of that ass? those people telling you to hit on her have NO idea that once you cross the friend line into the lover zone that women change their expectations of the relationship.

[Mr.Babalo]

The story

You should have boned her before you threw her out lol. At least in my opinion, it would have been more of a burn either way.

[nice gaijin]

are you saying you should be sleeping with your students, az? >_< or just that you need a change in career? heh.

Nova isn't a school, it's a business. go to Kaplan here in the states and call it a school.

[General_Admission]

I don't get all this man whore sex trip stuff. How is that fun? I could never in a million years do that sort of thing. I guess for me it's not about the sex, but the feeling of attachment.

[Kustom]

Yeah General_admission is right.

Now I don't how much you know about Japanese girls, but if you think it's so cool that they fall in bed with anyone who insists, how would like to build a relationship with one of them? Knowing that she could double-time you whenever and not feel the least guilty about it?

Granted, I'm a conservative guy in that respect, but where I come from when you are having a serious relationship with one person, you don't mess around with others. Fortunately, this is not how all Japanese girls are (although I know plenty who'd fit that description), but I often get weird vibes from the girls I talk to... I can't say for sure because it's impossible to get them to be honest about it, but my gut feeling is that for most Japanese girls, the link between sex and relationship is very loose...

On the one hand, you have the husband material, a guy you date officially after being properly introduced, and make plans for kekkon with 2 months after you met, before you even know his personality (which is preferably dull anyway). Do you love him? Does he love you? Is sex good? None of this matter; he's the right guy because: he's got a promising job, your family likes him, and it's time you get married. You can talk about him at length, and if you cheat on him no one is ever entitled to know.

Now on the other hand, you have the sex friends. Anyone can do, but of course you should score at least one gaijin for the sake of exoticism. Can't find one, you go to Nova... The sex friend is a convenient, preferably quiet guy you'll meet in a quiet place (love hotel/his appartment), do your thing, then go. No matter how long it goes on or how many you have, sex friends are not to be made public ever, and you very quickly forget about them when it no longer suits you.

From my own experience: can you imagine what it's like to be in love with somebody, live together for 9 months and still she won't acknowledge that you are actually having a relationship, won't introduce you to her friends and family and one day leaves you, (no reason/explanation needed), conveniently misplacing your phone number, as if it had been just one long night stand? Well that's just what it was in her mind. And yes, I'm the biggest sucker you've ever met, although I won't be caught dead doing the same mistake again!

Now I don't claim all J-girls are like this, and anyway what else can you expect from a culture that requires women to be, on the one hand, sheepish and obedient in a world of horny males, and on the other hand, remain pure and innocent until marriage...

Fortunately I'm really happy with my current girlfriend, she restored my faith in Japanese women. But I've seen enought heartbroken gaijins to give you a fair warning: if plain sex is what you're out for, you can get plenty (Az, I suggest giving private English lessons on your weekends for a start). But if you wanna engage into a serious relationship, you better be extra careful with Japanese girls, no matter how sweet and innocent they might look. Because gaijin are 99% of the time, no husband material for Japanese girls, so when you gotta kekkon, you gotta kekkon. Don't expect them to care much about staying with you unless they are seriously willing to live out of Japan.

[Edited:Yes Nova's policy is the biggest joke, more of my male colleagues than not have slept with students (of the adult variety, Tekkan!), nobody ever got fired except this one guy; he had numerous known affairs with students, got lots of complaints for sexual harassment from students, was changed schools repeatedly, but he only got fired after trying to make out with an unwilling English teacher in the elevator]

[hanacker]

Yeah General_admission is right.

Now I don't how much you know about Japanese girls, but if you think it's so cool that they fall in bed with anyone who insists, how would like to build a relationship with one of them? Knowing that she could double-time you whenever and not feel the least guilty about it?

Granted, I'm a conservative guy in that respect, but where I come from when you are having a serious relationship with one person, you don't mess around with others. Fortunately, this is not how all Japanese girls are (although I know plenty who'd fit that description), but I often get weird vibes from the girls I talk to... I can't say for sure because it's impossible to get them to be honest about it, but my gut feeling is that for most Japanese girls, the link between sex and relationship is very loose...


It sucks that you had a bad experience, but I don't think Japanese girls are more likely to cheat on you than American girls (I don't know about other countries). Tokyo girls, maybe, but Tokyo sucks :P Japanese girls don't make a big deal out of sex, but I think most at least believe in the rule that if you're in a relationship, you don't sleep with other guys. But if you aren't in a relationship go ahead and fuck whoever strikes your fancy.

If you're a good-looking, charismatic guy in America, you'd have no trouble finding lots of girls to sleep with. That doesn't mean all American girls are shameless whores. In Japan just substitute the phrase "not hideously ugly and caucasian" for "good-looking, charismatic" and you have more or less the same thing in Japan.

Edit: And what is General Admission right about? That sex just for the sake of sex isn't fun? I'm sure you can get tired of meaningless sex but men who have never found it fun have to be in a small minority.

[Kustom]

I just wanted to say that the vibe I'm getting from Japanese girls is "Sex ok. Attachment? Uh oh."

Now I know it's not everyone or even the majority, but I suspect something in the culture encourages that. Then again Japan is a society obsessed with marriage, and so is America to some extent (as opposed to Europe), so I guess when the stakes in a relationship are so high people want to fool around more. Surprising as it may be, cheating is quite a rare occurence among French people my age, and most people kind of consider it evil. While a lot of Japanese my age I talk to seem to take it matter-of-factly... But my experience is very incomplete, I know that.

[Tungtvann]

If you really had wanted to teach her a lesson (literally), you would have taught her bad English phrases. Now THAT would have been good! Teaching foreigners things like 'I like heavy things in my anal cavity' is great fun!

[tekkan]

I fucked a student too. She was 27. My 'real' girlfriend, which was actually a very good relationship, was a student at a different Nova. She was 20.

What now?

You see, Nova is a private company. It is NOT a 'real' school thing like JET.

What Nova is is an English Conversation school. Students, more realistically customers, pay big money to attend 45 minute lessons to speak english conversationally. Age ranges from 2 (kids) all the way to... damn we had some 80 year olds. Most students are adults.

Its not a serious educational institute, the people who work there aren't really teachers. They are Conversation English Instructors.

Eventually i'll actually write something about Nova, as realistically, Nova or a company like it, is the way most people will get to Japan for livin.

Maybe if you took the time to read my actual post, you'd see how your entire post is irrelevant.

If you want to go screw the 27 year old, go ahead. 20 year old? Go ahead.

But it was my understanding that you also had students under the age of conscent.

BTW, Calm down.

[hanacker]

Maybe if you took the time to read my actual post, you'd see how your entire post is irrelevant.

If you want to go screw the 27 year old, go ahead. 20 year old? Go ahead.

But it was my understanding that you also had students under the age of conscent.

BTW, Calm down.

I read your actual post. I don't see how his post was irrelevant. You thought he might be sleeping with young girls and he said he wasn't. How is that irrelevant?

And WTF is with saying "Calm down"? How is he not calm?

[tekkan]

I read your actual post. I don't see how his post was irrelevant. You thought he might be sleeping with young girls and he said he wasn't. How is that irrelevant?

And WTF is with saying "Calm down"? How is he not calm?

I fucked a student too. She was 27. My 'real' girlfriend, which was actually a very good relationship, was a student at a different Nova. She was 20.

What now?

A simple, I don't teach young students would suffice. Like I said, I don't care who he screws. He could be screwing infants as they are borned for all I care. I'm just stating what I think is morally wrong.

And Calm? I bolded the words for you. When someone says to me, What now?. That means you want to fight.

[scan2001]

Holy crap! This is escalating.

[Dead Sexy Vocab]

You Could've Got Punani!!

[PopCulturePooka]

Maybe if you took the time to read my actual post, you'd see how your entire post is irrelevant.

If you want to go screw the 27 year old, go ahead. 20 year old? Go ahead.

But it was my understanding that you also had students under the age of conscent.

BTW, Calm down.
Lad, where on earth did you get that I was sleeping with underage students?

Because you assumed I was teaching at a real school?
When I mentioned NOVA numerous times?
You have no knowledge on what NOVA is, didn't bother to research what NOVA was and instead implied myself or my friend (playboy or not) were fucking underage girls. You're post was irrelevant when you amde assumptions without knowing the real deal.

I was calm when I made that post. However, when I though it about more and realised that you, with your lack of knowledge about what were talking about decided to assume that my friend or I were pedophiles, THEN I got pissed.

I'd like an apology actually for your assumption that were fucking young children.

[tekkan]

Because you assumed I was teaching at a real school?
When I mentioned NOVA numerous times?
You have no knowledge on what NOVA is, didn't bother to research what NOVA was and instead implied myself or my friend (playboy or not) were fucking underage girls. You're post was irrelevant when you amde assumptions without knowing the real deal.

Here's a snip from the NOVA website.

One of the most appealing aspects of Nova's work is the sheer variety of students.

Students and seniors, homemakers and high schoolers, business people and busy mums, part-time workers and public officials.


I was calm when I made that post. However, when I though it about more and realised that you, with your lack of knowledge about what were talking about decided to assume that my friend or I were pedophiles, THEN I got pissed.

I'd like an apology actually for your assumption that were fucking young children.

Well if you're not, I apologise for smearing your name with my assumption.

Your posts display the menality that I'm in Japan not to teach english but to try and screw as many girls as I can.

Actually much to my disgust, most of the posts from people in Japan display such menality.

[PopCulturePooka]

Here's a snip from the NOVA website.Hahah thats the NOVA website.

You made an assumption from one line of text on NOVA's site?
Tell me boy, If I say I met my girlfriend at McDonalds would you say I'm fucking kids because kids go to McDonalds?

For someone bleating all over the racism threads how much you dislike you racism you're awfully quick to judge at others.
Your posts display the menality that I'm in Japan not to teach english but to try and screw as many girls as I can.Point out which post in particular highlight that I went to Japan to screw as many girls as I can. Bust out the search function if you really wish.

Besides I fail to see what business it is of yours? What are you? Captain Saveahoe, sworn defender of Innocent Japanese girls from mean foreign men?

Guess what? For all your worthless bleating theres a fat load of nothing you can do about it, especially considering that the girls themselves have no problems with it.

Actually much to my disgust, most of the posts from people in Japan display such menality.That boy, is your problem not mine. I don't give a flying 747 fuck if that disgusts you.

I didn't go to Japan just for sex. Did I have sex in Japan? Yes. With more than one partner? Yes. Whats your point boy?

You think its ridiculous that people go to Japan to have sex? I think its equally ridiculous that people go to Japan because they like FUCKING CARTOONS!

[tekkan]

Yes, I am quick to judge people. I'm also extremely racist towards white people as well. I think the world would be better with out them.

I'm also huge hyporcite when it comes to just about everything.

I'm also anti-gay and a neo-nazi with mixed in with a bit of jiha-fanatic too.


and yes, I do think you enjoy fucking little kids from Mc D's

[PopCulturePooka]

Woot... The sign of a wrecked man is a reduction to trolling with no point to be made.

Hmmm.

[Kustom]

Here's a snip from the NOVA website.

One of the most appealing aspects of Nova's work is the sheer variety of students.

Students and seniors, homemakers and high schoolers, business people and busy mums, part-time workers and public officials.


And you didn't assume he was fucking any of those! Wouldn't it be sick too! I mean, Pooka getting it on with drunk salarymen... (I love the absence of feminine in English)

Dude, you've been overreacting, just admit it... I don't think Pooka is in Japan for banging girls either, he's just fucking with you... :D

[Joe]

Sorry to hear about your girlfriend in japan, Pooka. But I'm glad to hear you're also getting much puntang.

And what is it with asian women and being slightly neurotic? I have a friend from laos... and she's violent sometimes with no provocation.

Maybe it's mandoatory law in japan to drop all female babies on their head 3 times after cutting the umbilical cord to get them breathing? That would be a funny law.

Tekkan - You make me cry with your mean comments tears - > = ^( < ) < )

[Shizzo]

My first 'girlfriend' in Japan is my current one. All the previous ones were just for sex, pretty-much for the reason you're describing. I would go to Japanese bars to try to find girlfriends, and foreign bars if I just wanted to get laid.

I am a bad man.

Simply awful. You should be locked up. :boggled: Seriously, that's just you, me and every other straight foreigner in Japan!

So far as the main story goes, I was reading through waiting for the part where you finally took out your annoyance by pounded her over your kotatsu. Seriously, to put up with what you did and not get any... :eyepop: Those girls are there to use you, so use them back. There's been a long line of those girls pass through my futon and if they're not back at mine putting out after the second date then it's over.

Use these girls and spend your time finding a real girlfriend. There are plenty out there, but you won't find them through the classroom.

[ミュー]

Wow, that story is almost scary. She's like a textbook example English Chaser. I've had some girls that were only in it for the foreign 'aspect', but I was never whored for English lesson. Then again, I never worked at Nova though and speak Japanese >_>

[Kyletherealninja]

I wonder if PLF is still in that same relationship?

[Urameshi YuSooKey]

I wonder if PLF is still in that same relationship?

I wonder if Shizzo realized this thread started over 2 years ago and really isn't relavent at all anymore. Good story though.

+2 internettos for thread revivals

[ZaichikArky]

Wow this is the second time I'm posting in this forum.

I wanted to say thanks for whoever necomanced this thread, cause I really enjoyed reading it :D.

[ミュー]

People need to read this, and also realize that there is a high chance that the girls who are easiest to pick up are a form of 'gaisen', or foreigner-specializing woman. It can be the easiest sex you ever had, but you will feel the burn if you get serious with one of these girls. These crazy bitches actually make up a good percentage of the female population 'girls who would go for a foreigner just because he's foreign' and will usually try to cover their true motives.

[RoxFontaine]

Pathetic was an understatement, Bro.

[PopCulturePooka]

Why the fuck is a two year old thread being discussed?