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Sock Full of Boiled Dimes
12-02-2005, 05:29 PM
I complain. A lot. Mostly on forums and that brief period when I had a music blog and everyone hated me for it. So it should be no surprise that I feel like complaining some more. However, if I cannot be funny about it then there really is no point to it in the first place.

So it is time for me to babble about something I am going to enjoy OH SO MUCH!

The Holidays.

#1- The Christian Perspective and Jewish Perspective.
Welcome o' ye of little faith. Jesus’ birthday is upon us so make sure you buy as much crap as you possibly can so you can completely tarnish what the real holiday is about. Christmas has become such a reversed, turn around, flipped, bought, sold, exchanged, Japanized, threw against a wall, boiled, baked in the over for 350, returned, locked, canceled, reinvented, and vomited that it lost all meaning whatsoever.

When people open their gifts on Christmas morning there really aren’t that many people going "Oh boy Jesus Clause got me a swell gift this year." I find it to be the irony of all ironies that a holiday celebrating the holiest person in the Christian religion is also based around a lie that your parents tell you about a jolly fat man who magically brings you gifts every year if you have been good. Lying is a sin right? So why the hell are you telling your kids Santa exists? I'll get to the complaint about Santa later.

Christian populations (the ones who are insane) seem to have problems when people call Christmas "X-Mas" or say "Happy Holidays". They obviously think that it is an utter avoidance of saying "Christ" the whole month of December. Sad fact is that some people (small margin) do say that to avoid it and they are as about as stupid as well. From what I understand "X" is Greek for Chri which was the way they said Christ. So they were calling Jesus "Chri". Something about that logic got mixed up, but from what I understand is if you say X-mas you still say "Christ".

So stop getting angry.

I also had the misfortune to celebrate Hanukah with a friend of a friend last year. I can understand why Jewish people suffer so. From what I heard from her the family they get together with only bothers lighting about half the candles before they completely give up on the holiday all together. That my friends is the real Hanukah. The whole point of the gift part was parents to give kids something they need and not something they want. So you are going to get sock instead of an Xboxs 360 this year Billy.

Christians get a lights and Christmas carols and HALF OF NOVEMBER dedicated to Christmas.

Jewish people get a dradle, candles, and some flat bread...oh boy!

I'm not saying that the Jewish religion is bad, but I am saying that they got the short end of the stick. I say we get some Jewish carolers this year. People will be too afraid to shut the door on them because they are too politically correct. It's prefect!

#2-Santa

Why is it socially acceptable to lie to your kids? Sure you think it is fun for the kids to believe in something and they get gifts and you are happy and they are happy. Eventually that kid is going to figure out one way or another that Santa is as false as a Bunny that gives you eggs.

Even I figured that one was false on the first year.

Kids assume that if they are good enough they can write a list down of all the things that they want as a reward. They have worked so hard to be good only to be shot down at Christmas morning when you figured out that Santa could give less of a crap about what you want. "Want a Monopoly board game kid," Santa would say. "Well screw you you'll get a little toy you'll break that same day and like it you little prick!"

This is how we gradually teach our children that life is going to let us down when we get older. Santa Clause. It is the perfect way to teach them that "Hey! You worked so hard to be good to get some sort of cosmic reward out of life...oh wait...nope...turns out that it doesn't matter Santa hates you and you are going to be shot down you little prick."

See next time you work hard at a job and try to be a good and better person in it and when you get fired due to some job cuts you need to remember that it's Santa's fault.

#3- The consumer perspective.

"When did Thanksgiving become Christmas Part 1?"-Lewis Black

I absolutely refuse to say Happy Holidays, shop for gifts, or so anything Christmas related until December first. I will not put up the tree. I will punch someone if they say Happy Holidays. I will slap a girl if she puts mistletoe under our head. If it is November and Thanksgiving hasn't even come up yet and you are celebrating Christmas as if it is 2 days away then CONGRADULATIONS! You are the biggest idiot in the world.

I am happy and chipper about Christmas once December 1st rolls around. I am angry at every person who asks me why I haven't looked for gifts yet the day after Thanksgiving. You know why? I JUST ATE TURKY AND YOU WANT MY TO BUY CRAP NOW!

These stores lure people in by edging Christmas further and further back on the calendar reminding us that it is coming up and you haven't gotten anyone anything yet. You are a total jackass if you haven't even bought a gift before December.

I hate the corporations’ and the commercials and the movie makers who have managed to move Christmas back before Halloween. For some reason they have managed to edge it back far enough that when I am buying candy at Wal-Mart there is Christmas decorations down the aisle.

How did this happen? We managed to go "Yeah, it’s okay to push it to the middle of November, but that is it." They slipped right under our noses and decided "Nah! Screw the beginning of November I want the end of October. I want those moronic parents and husbands to be reminded they haven't bought anything yet. Eventually we'll buy Christmas and it will be called Corporate Gift Day MUAHAHAHAHA!"

Christmas is becoming harder and harder to celebrate with all the corporations telling you that you need to buy their expensive crap. Granted that is what we do. We buy and they supply. That is the natural order of things. They give me what I want and I won’t complain about the outrageous prices.

Now they induce Christmas in Drinks, Movies, Cartoons, Books, Stamps, VIDEO GAMES, and clothing.

There is nothing worse then seeing someone in a tacky Christmas sweater. You feel so bad because they have to wear it once and they decided that was the day. If someone gets you tacky Christmas clothing you are obligated to wear it not to hurt their feelings. You only have to wear it once, but make sure you wear it when they are around. If you don't then you actually have to keep it till next year and when they get you something else tacky you now have two pieces’ of clothing on your plate. Eventually it all piles up into a mound of disaster and the person is so hurt and upset that they stop calling you. Then you realize that this is a good thing and you don't have to get another crappy piece of Christmas clothing, but it took you this long to realize this and now you have an entire closet dedicated to the Holiday. Phew.

Welcome to Christmas and please enjoy it like it really should be.
Rule1- If you find yourself at any way like what I complained about up there then you need to sit down and punch yourself in the stomach for 2 hours. That way next time the Holidays come around you should feel the pain.
Rule2- You cannot do anything Christmas related until December 1st
Rule3- Don't lie to your kids about Santa. Tell them the truth: Life sucks and people lie.
Rule4- Do not shop for gifts until December 1st. If there is a sale at a store and you desperately need it for that person then think to yourself "Is this worth losing my dignity?" or "Do they really need this?" If they answer is yes then you need to repeat Rule 1.
Rule5- Don't be a religious nut about it. Christmas is about love which is what Christ intended in the first place. So don't get negative about things.

This sums it up. Have a Merry Christmas everyone!

Trump
12-02-2005, 06:17 PM
Wow, are you just in a bad mood?

To correlate Santa with sin is just absurd. He's a fictional character plain and simple. Most parents won't lie to their children and say I am not Santa, there's actually a guy who brings you presents. They will play the role of Santa and when the child figures it out it means they have grown up. Hell, my dad still gives us gifts "from Santa" sometimes. It's funny. The only lie is one of omission, and to compare that to sin is to say that everyone who has written fiction has sinned.

And you have only seen one family's version of Hanukah. Most people celebrate it differently depending on how religious they are and where they are from. And besides, you say Jews are getting gypped? I'd be happy its not like Christmas!

But yeah, Christmas has turned into some commericalized retail marketers wet dream. I hate it and the season, but I put up with all the fanatics out there because it is part of life and they aren't too hard to avoid.

CrazyAce86
12-02-2005, 06:26 PM
Sorry Trump, but I'm with him on 99% of what he said. My roommate is a Christmas-holic and she began singing and playing Christmas music in the middle of October.

Very annoying.

The Santa thing I'm 50/50 on. When it works, like it did with you, it's a pretty cool thing. When it doesn't work, it's a crash-and-burn loss of faith for some kids. Remember that annoying Neil guy from The Santa Claus movie? My point. So I'm not sure on that. But otherwise, yeah, I'm with him.

Bob
12-02-2005, 06:32 PM
#1- The Christian Perspective and Jewish Perspective.
Welcome o' ye of little faith. Jesus’ birthday is upon us so make sure you buy as much crap as you possibly can so you can completely tarnish what the real holiday is about. Christmas has become such a reversed, turn around, flipped, bought, sold, exchanged, Japanized, threw against a wall, boiled, baked in the over for 350, returned, locked, canceled, reinvented, and vomited that it lost all meaning whatsoever.

When people open their gifts on Christmas morning there really aren’t that many people going "Oh boy Jesus Clause got me a swell gift this year." I find it to be the irony of all ironies that a holiday celebrating the holiest person in the Christian religion is also based around a lie that your parents tell you about a jolly fat man who magically brings you gifts every year if you have been good. Lying is a sin right? So why the hell are you telling your kids Santa exists? I'll get to the complaint about Santa later.

Christian populations (the ones who are insane) seem to have problems when people call Christmas "X-Mas" or say "Happy Holidays". They obviously think that it is an utter avoidance of saying "Christ" the whole month of December. Sad fact is that some people (small margin) do say that to avoid it and they are as about as stupid as well. From what I understand "X" is Greek for Chri which was the way they said Christ. So they were calling Jesus "Chri". Something about that logic got mixed up, but from what I understand is if you say X-mas you still say "Christ".

So stop getting angry.

I also had the misfortune to celebrate Hanukah with a friend of a friend last year. I can understand why Jewish people suffer so. From what I heard from her the family they get together with only bothers lighting about half the candles before they completely give up on the holiday all together. That my friends is the real Hanukah. The whole point of the gift part was parents to give kids something they need and not something they want. So you are going to get sock instead of an Xboxs 360 this year Billy.

Christians get a lights and Christmas carols and HALF OF NOVEMBER dedicated to Christmas.

Jewish people get a dradle, candles, and some flat bread...oh boy!

I'm not saying that the Jewish religion is bad, but I am saying that they got the short end of the stick. I say we get some Jewish carolers this year. People will be too afraid to shut the door on them because they are too politically correct. It's prefect!


I guess you better stop being a heretic

Idlethought
12-02-2005, 06:36 PM
if celebrating the holidays makes people happy then why knock em for it? If you wanna be a morbid person and be like "christmas is for gits" then fuck you then lol People enjoy the holidays and enjoy the company of people during the holidays so let em be

Jynx_lucky_j
12-02-2005, 06:40 PM
...bitter much?

And don't you know is isn't the Christmas season anymore, it's the holiday season. Because apperantly people get offended if you say merry christmas. Last year a guy said "Happy Hanukah" to me as i passed by. So I reponded with "Merry Chistmas" and was about to continue on my way thinking it was kinda cool meeting someone of differant beliefs and due to the holiday season we could exist in harmony depite our differant beliefs...but it turns out i was wrong. The guy stopped me an told me that he was jewish (duh) and was offended by my comment and that I can't say Merry Christmas to him because of that. I tryed to tell him that by that logic I should be offended at him since he said Happy Hanukah to me. But He wasn't hearing it, so I just ended up walking away with yet another peice of my hope for hummanity dying.

Honestly I don't care if you celibrate Hanukah, or Kwanza(sp?), or Satan Empowerment Day. You can wish me a Happy (what ever you celebrate), but I celebrate Christmas, so I'm going to say Merry Christmas. Screw that Happy Holidays crap. Unless you celebrate several winter holidays then you should celebrate what you want to and let other people celebrate what ever they want to. Political correctness isn't a bad thing, but to much of it is more annoying than does any good. Like the Crongress and the "Holiday Tree" what other winter holiday has a tree? You wouldn't call it a "Holiday Menora," no other winter holiday has a Menora. You would think that the guys in congress would have more important matters, what with a war going on and the big hurrican season we just had, and medicare and social security dissapearing, and the immegration problems, and what ever else. But no they need to decide wether to call it a Christmas Tree or a Holiday Tree

I can agree with you about Christmas should start until December, and it annoys me to no end... However i know why it becomes longer each year. Every year Christmas take a HUGE bite out of my budget that take a couple months to recover from. And many people buy multiple presents for each person on ther list which often includes, immediate family, extended family, and freinds. Personally i limit my self to my wife and kids, my immediate family, and my wifes immediate family, and forget about freinds unless they get me something first. Assuming one present each that is 11 people, but i often get my wife and kids 2 or 3 presents so 14-17 presents. And I don't get them little puny token presents, I get tehm things they really want or need and will appretiate. And I'm sure there are people on here that blow my list out of the water. But in order to handle this sizible loads with out hurting yourself, is to spead the gift buying over a longer period of time.

So I don't mind people that start buying gifts at anytime durring the year, but at least leave the decorations, Christmas music, holiday greetings, ect until December.

Donut
12-02-2005, 07:27 PM
...bitter much?

And don't you know is isn't the Christmas season anymore, it's the holiday season. Because apperantly people get offended if you say merry christmas. Last year a guy said "Happy Hanukah" to me as i passed by. So I reponded with "Merry Chistmas" and was about to continue on my way thinking it was kinda cool meeting someone of differant beliefs and due to the holiday season we could exist in harmony depite our differant beliefs...but it turns out i was wrong. The guy stopped me an told me that he was jewish (duh) and was offended by my comment and that I can't say Merry Christmas to him because of that. I tryed to tell him that by that logic I should be offended at him since he said Happy Hanukah to me. But He wasn't hearing it, so I just ended up walking away with yet another peice of my hope for hummanity dying.

Honestly I don't care if you celibrate Hanukah, or Kwanza(sp?), or Satan Empowerment Day. You can wish me a Happy (what ever you celebrate), but I celebrate Christmas, so I'm going to say Merry Christmas. Screw that Happy Holidays crap. Unless you celebrate several winter holidays then you should celebrate what you want to and let other people celebrate what ever they want to. Political correctness isn't a bad thing, but to much of it is more annoying than does any good. Like the Crongress and the "Holiday Tree" what other winter holiday has a tree? You wouldn't call it a "Holiday Menora," no other winter holiday has a Menora. You would think that the guys in congress would have more important matters, what with a war going on and the big hurrican season we just had, and medicare and social security dissapearing, and the immegration problems, and what ever else. But no they need to decide wether to call it a Christmas Tree or a Holiday Tree

I can agree with you about Christmas should start until December, and it annoys me to no end... However i know why it becomes longer each year. Every year Christmas take a HUGE bite out of my budget that take a couple months to recover from. And many people buy multiple presents for each person on ther list which often includes, immediate family, extended family, and freinds. Personally i limit my self to my wife and kids, my immediate family, and my wifes immediate family, and forget about freinds unless they get me something first. Assuming one present each that is 11 people, but i often get my wife and kids 2 or 3 presents so 14-17 presents. And I don't get them little puny token presents, I get tehm things they really want or need and will appretiate. And I'm sure there are people on here that blow my list out of the water. But in order to handle this sizible loads with out hurting yourself, is to spead the gift buying over a longer period of time.

So I don't mind people that start buying gifts at anytime durring the year, but at least leave the decorations, Christmas music, holiday greetings, ect until December.

Quoting that because you said my feelings perfectly. Well done.

Jay
12-02-2005, 07:38 PM
Do not lie.

You just quoted that to take up space. :p

Donut
12-02-2005, 08:11 PM
I would like to direct you to your avatar.

Have a nice day. ;)

Jay
12-02-2005, 08:15 PM
Congratulations. You have found your middle finger. Now find your sphincter, insert the finger and sit on it.

Have a nice day.

Jynx_lucky_j
12-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Why would you stick your finger in you eye and then sit on it? (yes there is a sphincter in your eye as well)

Bob
12-02-2005, 08:37 PM
Why would you stick your finger in you eye and then sit on it? (yes there is a sphincter in your eye as well)

...
.......

Jay
12-02-2005, 08:47 PM
See, now most peoples' first thought would be the sphincter in your ARSEHOLE. :p

CrazyAce86
12-02-2005, 08:47 PM
That's not the point I was getting. Cranky, yeah, but you would be, too, if you were sick of the holidays.

For one thing, *EVERYTHING* is too PC anymore. People don't have a problem until you start telling them that they should be offended by this, that, or the other thing. Like the Hanukah guy Jynx mentioned.

I'm just sick of people "getting into the holiday spirit" when it's not even Halloween yet. It's extremely annoying, especially by the folks that live in my dorm. They're all like, "Spread the Christmas cheer!" and "Be nice, it's Christmas-time!" and so on, and yet they make fun others, completely snub the janitors as if they're below them, and generally treat anyone who's not their BFF-4-Life like shit. Yeah, they got the Christmas spirit alright, the bunch of caroling hypocrites.

And face it, Christmas has become too goddamn commercialized. When I was little, Christmas meant friends, family, good food, and time spent together. Now my mother's like, "What do you want for Christmas? Don't tell you're aunt and grandmother something too expensive because you know they'll go broke buying it." I tell her I don't know what I want, just whatever they get is fine, and she gets pissed at me. It's like, WTF? Do you want me to be a greedy, whiny little brat? Why do I have to *want* anything?

On top of that, good luck trying to get the family together at all. Oh, sure, they'll say they'll make it, but in reality you end up piling into the car and making quick one-hour visits with everyone on Christmas Day. Yeah, that's *real* family time, folks! Gotta get home to watch that Christmas Special repeat, even though we saw it last year!

Quite frankly, the only good thing about the holidays anymore is the fact that you get a month off from school. Other than that, it sucks anymore. Nobody gives a shit about the real meanings behind it, whether you're Christian, religious, or not. They're too busy watching the shitload of Christmas movies on ABC Family and Lifetime Movie Network.

It's nauseating.

Zslash
12-02-2005, 11:32 PM
Bastards! You forgot the psuedo-holiday that is kwanzaa!

CrazyAce86
12-02-2005, 11:53 PM
ChrismaHanaKwanzikah? Or however the hell you say it.

Zslash
12-03-2005, 12:01 AM
ChrismaHanaKwanzikah? Or however the hell you say it.

Dear god you just read my mind. Ive been calling this season by that name to my friends

Idlethought
12-03-2005, 12:19 AM
Bastards! You forgot the psuedo-holiday that is kwanzaa!

see whyd you have to go and do that lol Kwanzaa isnt a religious holiday, its just a little somethin somethin practiced by African Americans that choose to practice it. It centers around family and community togetherness. so up yours biatch

Zslash
12-03-2005, 12:30 AM
see whyd you have to go and do that lol Kwanzaa isnt a religious holiday, its just a little somethin somethin practiced by African Americans that choose to practice it. It centers around family and community togetherness. so up yours biatch

Its in the same boat. It is just lucky it is a new holiday. Once there are Kwanzaa songs.. its all down hill from there

Chelsums
12-03-2005, 01:39 AM
number17, I agree with you. Christmas is so overcommercialized and it starts earlier and earlier every year. It really bothers me. And I really hate the Santa idea, too. Why should parents lie to their kids like that? It's not right. Damn hypocrites.

NERD
12-03-2005, 02:44 AM
Christmas is okay. At least it is for getting together with the family and whatnot- I choose to take the religious element out of it altogether. For the record, I'm willing to celebrate the birthday of Buddha and Mohammed, on basis of keeping track with birthdays of some impressive people.

Valentine's Day is probably the most commercialized, even moreso than Christmas in my opinion. But then again, face it, every major holiday will be commercialized at one point or another- it's just how you would celebrate in non-commercial way that may make it special and memorable.

Collapse
12-03-2005, 09:05 AM
Why in the world does Christmas bother the living hell out of a lot of people? That said, Valentine's Day is fucking overrated too. Damn you Hallmark and damn you unrealistic types of love.

If you want, call it "Holidays" and stop bitching. Personally I leave people to what their interpretation of the Yuletide is, not like everyone gives a flyking fuck about the misfortune of it all if there ever was one.

Me? Having fun this Christmas or Holidays or Yuletides. Seriously, it's how you make it to be.

nothing
12-03-2005, 10:57 PM
I have to say that even though I detest how much christmas is commercialized, if it wasn't for Christmas I'd be out of a job.