Dune.

[Godon]

Has anyone read these great books? I read the first one when I was younger, watched the movie, and kind of forgot about it. Somewhat recently (2000 I think) they made the Sci-Fi channel Mini-series of Dune and a while later Children of Dune (which was half Dune Messiah and half Children of Dune).

Anyway, now I am re-reading them and I really feel like everything I have ever written (I have written since I was 13 and it did suck at first, but it is getting better) is shit compaired to this stuff. I have come up with some stuff I liked but it just seems so trivial next to this book series. Dune is awsome.


Also, I suggest the Mini-Series that was produced a while back if you can still find it via bittorrent. If not, this is the one movie (m-s) that I actually bought. I have watched it a number of times that I am too embarressed to speak aloud without prompting so far, and I still love it. The casting was very good, though in a few cases not 100% what the book described.



Any comments on the book/series/old movie? I'd love to hear what other people have to say about it.

[Praetorian]

I played the game. Dune 2 is practically the game that got me addicted to gaming.

[Godon]

Ohh, I hadn't even thought of the games. I only played one that was alot like Warcraft. I'll have to look up Dune games and see if they have anything interesting.


http://www.abandonia.com/games/36/Dune2/Dune2.htm Nice. Lol.

[co_delphi]

I can't remember but which came first Dune 2 or command and conquer?

[Sardaukar]

Dune is awesome. I'm religiously working my way through the series of books.

[Godon]

I had seen your name around and thought mayhap you'd post here. I am doing the same. I'm reading them and listening to them on audio book, in that order. I figure if I miss something read then I'll hear it and visa-versa.

[Praetorian]

I can't remember but which came first Dune 2 or command and conquer?



Dune 2. Basically the first Real Time Strategy game. (I know there were others, however, the genre was defined by Dune II, which at once introduced the core concepts of RTS games: resource-building, base development and direct unit control.)

[Godon]

I must say what drew me into the story the most was the intense complexity of the plot and the world the story was set in. Everything seemed much more intense then any other novel I've personally ever read.

[Jiant Flying Panda]

Is Dune really all that good?

I had the oppertunity to read the books but I always turned it down..... I also never played the games. Played C&C though.... Actually all the C&Cs. Well, all the ones made by Westwood not crappy ass EA.

[NERD]

I've only read the first Dune, and I didn't get back to the series after I was told that none of the sequels are as good as the original. I might try others, nevertheless.

Dune itself is not a mere science fiction but much more, has a lot of great imageries, both subtle and profound, and certain allusions to our own history as well.

I did enjoy both Dune 2 and Dune 2000- however, in my opinion, none of them were as complete and addictive as Command and Conquer/Red Alert. It all went downhill after the Tiberian Sun, but still, it was better than being sold and liquified by EA.

[Jiant Flying Panda]

Yeah. Tiberian Sun, in my opinion, was the last of the true C&C games.

Even though the license is now owned by EA I'm still hoping for Tiberian Twilight to come out (The supposed name of the game. Considering the first was Dawn and the second was Sun). Even though the game might suck. I want a sense of closure on the fanchise.

[Godon]

I really liked Messiah and what I've read so far of Children of Dune (what I am on right now). I have heard God Emperor of Dune is also very good, but I don't remember much of it since I read it so long ago.

[NERD]

Amen. I still would like to play classic Command and Conquer from time to time- it was just perfect as a RTS. And though those FMVs were cheesy as hell, I still don't see many villains as charismatic as Kane in a classic B-movie fashion.

Then Tiberian topped itself by putting James Earl Jones and that guy from the first Terminator.

[thomear]

I've read the first, but never gotten around to reading the others. I'm only 16 so I have a while if I want :P I'm too busy reading medieval style fantasy, the new Wheel of Time book is coming out in a week or so, should knock that over in a couple of days :P Some of my favourite authors are Robin Hobb, Kate Elliott (reading her right now, she's excellent), George R R Martin (absolutely fantastic, new book coming out in a month or so), Robert Jordan (new book in a week, somethings actually going to happen unlike the previous 5 or so books), first series by Raymond E Feist (especially the first book, Magician, is wonderful. You start getting tired of the same characters after a few series) and plenty of others. Care to mention anyone I left off?

And after reading Dune, I was sort of interested in reading some well written sci-fi. My experiences in the genre are limited to the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy series (which is more comedy than sci-fi to me) and the first Dune book. Is there any Robert Jordan equivalent (ie series of several books which are all huge)?

[moo]

I read all of the ones that the father wrote( I think it was 6 in the main series)
I have also read the 6 that the son wrote.

I had rented that dvd, and boy was it long. I liked the way it had portrayed the book but some of the scenes were funny in a bad way, ie them running from a ship looked esactly like they were jogging in place, which I am sure they did.

I started reading this book a few years back( I am 16 atm), and was hooked instantly. I pretty much picked up the next dune book the second I finished the one I was on.
No sadly I have to wait for the son to write his, and hopefully he will get to number 7 of his fathers series....

[Star Market]

The very first Dune was excellent. Dune Messiah carried the energy and fervor of the first. Children of Dune took a weird a turn, and God Emperor of Dune continued the weird trend. I'm still not quite sure what happened in that book, or what the purpose of Leto II's death was supposed to serve. I'm in the middle of Heretics of Dune. Overall, I've enjoyed the reading experience and being submerged in Herbert's world. There's always so much political intrigue behind the scenes that it captivates me.

[MeneerDijk]

moved to entertainment

[Dana]

I absolutely loved the first book, its in my top three favorite books of all time. But the subsequent ones kind of sucked... Well I only read two of the following ones, but it was enough to make me not wanna read anymore. The first one is brilliant though. I think it should be required reading in highschool XDD

[General_Failure]

MIB for PC was the reason I made a "Wall of shame" for games, where dune and dune 2 quickly got stuck after playing them.

[Godon]

"I had rented that dvd, and boy was it long. I liked the way it had portrayed the book but some of the scenes were funny in a bad way, ie them running from a ship looked esactly like they were jogging in place, which I am sure they did."

They had a low budget, what can you do?

Anyway, so far I really haven't disliked any of the sequal books. I've liked all of them thus far. I've still gotta find time to read God Emperor of Dune though. His writing style just blows me away.

[co_delphi]

"I had rented that dvd, and boy was it long. I liked the way it had portrayed the book but some of the scenes were funny in a bad way, ie them running from a ship looked esactly like they were jogging in place, which I am sure they did."

They had a low budget, what can you do?

Anyway, so far I really haven't disliked any of the sequal books. I've liked all of them thus far. I've still gotta find time to read God Emperor of Dune though. His writing style just blows me away.

Through some manner of luck I managed to inherit a large collection of old movie magazines. One was devoted completely to the movie Dune. It is amazing how many hands it was passed through before it actually found it's way on screen. The thing that is somewhat boggling is that it was originally a 6 hour movie. I have found 3 different versions to date. The Sci-fi channel occasionally shows the extended version which has some scenes not shown elsewhere but has some of the more disturbing stuff editted out. then the VHS version has some scenes not in the DVD or Sci-fi's version, and the DVD is actually the shortest of them all and is missing quite a bit.

One thing that did interest me from the magazine though was in the prior attempt to make the movie they hired H.R. Giger to design everything...... too bad they went bankrupt.... it would have been interesting to see.

[Daishikaze]

I've seen some of the actual Props and furniture Giger designed for the film in his museum in Gruyere (FYI, Giger has quite a bit of pervy junk too hanging around in there too, creepy stuff).

[co_delphi]

Is there any Robert Jordan equivalent (ie series of several books which are all huge)?

By stating Robert Jordan equivalent do you mean that it will stretch a story out to it's fullest and have periods of around 2 years between books?

But seriously if you want a series of thick books I suggest Harry Turtledove. He tends to write mostly alternate history books and are fairly engrossing. I would suggest the World at War series. (basically aliens attack during World War II and the storyline basically extrapolates what would have happened under that situation based upon historical data and views it from around 24 characters points of view (some ficticious some real people). Last I checked it was up to 7 books.

[moo]

Yea Harry Turtledove is a decent aughtor from my experience.
I read the "Into the Darkness" series, which is basically a magic version of WWII.
A great read.

[thomear]

By stating Robert Jordan equivalent do you mean that it will stretch a story out to it's fullest and have periods of around 2 years between books?

But seriously if you want a series of thick books I suggest Harry Turtledove. He tends to write mostly alternate history books and are fairly engrossing. I would suggest the World at War series. (basically aliens attack during World War II and the storyline basically extrapolates what would have happened under that situation based upon historical data and views it from around 24 characters points of view (some ficticious some real people). Last I checked it was up to 7 books.

I mean Robert Jordan in the early stages of the WoT... you know, when things actually HAPPENED.

Whilst the last 5 or so books have been good, nothing has happened. But it's still good to get immersed in such a huge, vivid world that he has made.

So pretty much, someone who writes really good books which have a vast scope and paint out the world, characters etc really well