Yellow fever

[mcchuy45]

Hi guys,
I just registered to share my problem.

I think I've got the fever, but it came in a moment that can be very devastating.
I spent my holiday in Tokyo with a couple of friends this fall, and since I'm back to Switzerland, I can't stop thinking of it. Consider that I've never cared about Japanese culture in general.
I left my very blond girlfriend, officially taking advantage of a silly argument, but in truth cos now I only think of J-girls.

Even worse, I think of one in particular.
We had a wonderful (but short) romance, she seemed particularly fond of me, and promised me she will visit Europe if I couldn't come back.
I would like to, but since I'm not allowed to have another holiday, I will need to resign my job and find another one in Japan.
And I have no way to contact her from here, as I only know her address. She has my email but didn't write anything, because she doesn't have a computer :bang:
So, is it worth to leave my country for chasing a dream? Or is my imagination deceiving me? I know nothing in this world would totally convince me that I'm wrong, except unveiling the truth myself and quitting from this boring place. But I'm concerned about regretting later my decision.

[Takuto]

If you think Japan and everything about Japan is the best thing ever, then you have yellow fever. But if you fall in love with a Japanese woman and are considering a future in Japan, then that's something completely different. What I suggest you do is write letters to her. If you plan to stay in touch with her on a consistent basis, then ask for her phone number. It'll be easier for the both of you.

[stsparky]

See. One is not "yellow fever" - and it's clear it's one woman. She can send and receive e-mail on her cell phone. Give that a try. Surely, you have her actual mail address?

You can find Asian women anywhere. I just googled "Chinese Restaurants" ~Zurich and located about 20 hits. I do recommend not objectifying anyone, it's a turn off. And never tell anyone you're fascinated by their culture when you're not.

Though it would be okay to tell that person you're in awe of them.

[mcchuy45]

The fact that I don't know her very well (because of the language barrier) is what makes me think that I may like her only because she's japanese, and that I may be deluded after I unveil the exotic mystery. Especially if I find that, like almost all japanese people, she only thinks to work

[qwert]

rofl, this can't be real!

[Kannon]

Yeah, troll troll is troll.

[SlickWilly440]

We'll if you look at the date he registered...he might have been a long time lurker that finally decided to register.

[Kannon]

Okay.

[koku]

no one said it?

dude you're f'n crazy. quitting job/wanting to move for some chic that maybe touched your wii wii but won't even email you anymore. she had her gaijin fun with you and she's long forgotten you.

[qwert]

If this is real (which I highly doubt as his (her?) story is entirely ludicrous, contrived, and lacking in details by instead resorting to stereotypical behaviors) then I will say this,

"well shit son, you just got played."

I mean come on, she doesn't have a computer (or access to one) and that is why she hasn't emailed him? ROFL.

[koku]

ya it's total bullshit. like that you had fun. dont move countries for a female - specially a japanese one that you barely were able to even communicate with.

[SoulPlay]

OP, don't do it... please...

[MNJetter]

Do it.

One of two things will happen.

1) You'll find that your infatuation is real, and enjoy who knows how long with a wonderful girl who captured your heart while you were overseas. Joy!

2) You'll be disillusioned, which will not be pleasant, but still won't damage you as much as if you chose to live forever with your illusion. Better to rip the bandaid off quickly than spend five minute peeling it off and feeling every single individual arm hair ripped from its follicle because you're afraid it will hurt.

Those of you who think he's a troll (I kind of do too, but choose to give the benefit of the doubt as I am bored and a real response kills more time)....you ought to be thanking him instead of trying to ignore him. We haven't had any amusing Japanophile fodder in this forum in forever, and posts have slowed to a crawl. It's about time someone posted something to rile everybody up.

[qwert]

^ MNJetter is agreeing with you. For sure this means that you should definitely NOT do it! XD

edit: On second thought. Your postings would make for an interesting read if you went through with it...

[MNJetter]

That was my thought. :stirthepo

[Chinpokomon]

For your ex:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_transformation

[TommyA]

Do it! Take pictures and chronicle your experience. Become internet (in)famous.

Enjoy!

[silentplummet]

I mean come on, she doesn't have a computer (or access to one) and that is why she hasn't emailed him? ROFL.

This.

Even if she doesn't have a computer, she certainly does have a keitai, and if she cared about you she would have e-mailed you.

Therefore, either:

1. You are a troll. Die.
2. You got played by a Japanese girl, don't worry, it can happen to the best of us. Get over it and get on with your life.

[stsparky]

I already mentioned the cell phone angle.

I'm leaning to the possibility he got played and that he's real.

[TommyA]

My guess. You got bit my the tatamae bug. A leading cause of yellow fever for foreigners who visit Japan briefly, and have a fling or meet a nice girl.

Get it checked.

[SlickWilly440]

Since we don't know the personality of mcchuy45, we cannot properly give the diagnosis of Yellow Fever. However, if mcchuy45 were to go to an Asian restaurant and found all the Asian workers there attract, including the 50 year old, sex starved obasan, then yes he has Yellow Fever.

[mikem]

Less than an hour ago I had a conversation with a Finish guy about Swedish guys who want to come to Japan to find girlfriends. We can't figure out why ...


And I have no way to contact her from here, as I only know her address. She has my email but didn't write anything, because she doesn't have a computer :bang:


Every single cell phone in this country, unless it is horrendously broken, can send e-mail to and e-mail address. She hasn't written you because she has plenty of other guys who live a train ride away and not in some country that takes hours to get to by plane.

Find another girl.


So, is it worth to leave my country for chasing a dream? Or is my imagination deceiving me? I know nothing in this world would totally convince me that I'm wrong, except unveiling the truth myself and quitting from this boring place. But I'm concerned about regretting later my decision.

Welcome to life. Chase your dream and then go home if you come to not like it. You will come to regret your inaction more than any possible failure.

[mcchuy45]

thanks for the help.

I don't get what you mean with troll and the reason why I should be. I'm not even a long-time lurker. I'm just following forums about Japan since I came back one month ago.

But anyway,
I find mikem's comment the most pertinent.
She probably doesn't bother to keep contact with someone at the other side of the world, despite all the promises. She's just more realist.
I'm sending her a mail with a photo and a short letter. We'll see how it goes.

For those who want extra details: I had fun with other girls (and the fun I had would be enough to be willing to spend some time there as soon as possible), but had absolutely no sex with her in particular. Maybe that's what hit me and made the detachment very painful.

As for the yellow fever, I don't like 50 years old. But probably, as I haven't the exact perception of what is nice and what is ugly in a eastern face (like Asians seem to not have with us), I'm probably more "tolerant".
However, this isn't the main problem. I suspect that it's the lack of communication and the culture differences that cause the "mystery" that attacts me so much. I wonder what happens when the mystery is unveiled. I posted here because you may already know. But regardless of what you will say, I keep being attracted.

[japanat]

^ Just remember that once you get beyond the communication and culture differences... women are women. Sounds trite, but I really don't see any large difference between my wife and any of the American ladies I dated when I was younger - no glaring differences, anyways.

But if you are fascinated, and willing to make the life change, then head to Japan. I would recommend that you think about the changes you could be making in your life before you go, however. Regretting after you went would be too late.

[qwert]

See. One is not "yellow fever" - and it's clear it's one woman. She can send and receive e-mail on her cell phone. Give that a try. Surely, you have her actual mail address?

You can find Asian women anywhere. I just googled "Chinese Restaurants" ~Zurich and located about 20 hits. I do recommend not objectifying anyone, it's a turn off. And never tell anyone you're fascinated by their culture when you're not.

Though it would be okay to tell that person you're in awe of them.

Since we don't know the personality of mcchuy45, we cannot properly give the diagnosis of Yellow Fever. However, if mcchuy45 were to go to an Asian restaurant and found all the Asian workers there attract, including the 50 year old, sex starved obasan, then yes he has Yellow Fever.

:blank:

[ミュー]

Going to Japan for the sole purpose of Japanese girls is like becoming an astronaut just because you want to snag some moon rocks.

Going to school/uni costs between a lot of money and an absolute fortune. I could buy a decent house in my hometown for the cost of my college education in Tokyo. There are opportunities to transfer to a proper four-year uni, but there is competition and 30,000+ EUR a year for a comfortable lifestyle in the city center is a conservative estimate.

Being a language teacher is the easy way in for many foreigners, but it is not a glamorous life. The schools that will sponsor your visa tend to ship you out so some faraway nowhere hinterland. Living in Tokyo and one of those places are two very different experiences. Some people (esp. those wanting to improve Japanese language skills) enjoy their experience, but these are the sort of places where it's pitch black at 8:01pm and the traffic signals turn off.

Then, there is the issue of language. I'm not sure what kind of romantic reveries you have, but you're limited to a very small group of women with zero Japanese ability. If you're content with some meh looking girl who lives for pink penis and speaks fluent English, then I suggest you hop on the next flight and bounce on down to Roppongi.

And then maybe you will start to realize that this is not just some heavenly place full of hot chicks who want your vienna sausage. There are always women in any given country that are attracted to foreigners. Some don't give a shit if you're a complete troll but most people have standards. In Japan, you are not Mr. Big Gaijin with super cool sex appeal; you are some twat who just got off the plane, only wants to get laid, and can't even speak shit for Japanese. Good luck breaking off Ebi-chan (see avatar) with those credentials.

Honestly, there are thousands of guys just like you already here with the same modus operandi. I see them walking around all the time with some girl with mutual gazes that seem to say "oh my Japanese girlfriend" and "oh my foreign boyfriend" in a sort of ignorant bliss. This is your dream, right? If you want to waste all the time and money it takes just for that, you make me sick. Deceive yourself as you may, love like that is hollow and there's a million stories online of those couples' failed relationships.

That being said, many OP9 users live in Japan and many of us are very happy here including myself. The missing link between the aforementioned yellow tail-chasing douchebags and people who honestly want to be here is the desire to improve oneself. There are vast learning opportunities attainable through living and studying here. I personally find that there is a lot of "hidden knowledge"; things that you really couldn't know or understand without discovering it yourself. This is a respectable cause.

It's your life and as I said there is a metric fuckton of other guys and girls here just trying to get fucked. What we're trying to tell you is; the juice is not worth the squeeze. If you want to get serious about something other than Japanese pussy and come here in pursuit of that, the challenge awaits. If you just want some fantasy, Thai whores await your business in Bangkok. Save your money and download porn. Find some exchange students where you live. There's a million easier solutions.

[SoulPlay]

Well said!

[Stephy]

...? (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tor/881177993.html)

[ak24]

...? (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tor/881177993.html)
olol

[belladonna]

...? (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tor/881177993.html)
I saw that on thanksgiving and about died laughing!

[SlickWilly440]

Save your money and download porn.

The self consolation prize it the best of them all!

[Urameshi YuSooKey]

...? (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tor/881177993.html)
Nihonese? LOL

[farstrider]

...? (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tor/881177993.html)

Awesome :rofl:

[japanat]

...? (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tor/881177993.html)Please tell me this isn't for real, that it's as fake as it looks...

[Digital Masta]

It has to be fake.

[jindojim]

I'd agree to mikem for you except...I went to Japan for the summer and met this nice Japanese girl, we kept in touch, I pretty much went to Japan for another trip to hangout with her, and went to live in Japan for about a year and then we got married. And now she lives in America.

I wouldn't say I have yellow fever :P

So...the point is...if you have something mutual, try to spend more time with her and see how it works out. You may never know. But...if that can't be done then...don't bother.

[SlickWilly440]

I'd agree to mikem for you except...I went to Japan for the summer and met this nice Japanese girl, we kept in touch, I pretty much went to Japan for another trip to hangout with her, and went to live in Japan for about a year and then we got married. And now she lives in America.

That's an awesome story, thanks for sharing.

[Kyletherealninja]

I'd think the Craigslist thing was funny if it wasn't so obviously fake.

Also, props to Mew for an awesome, awesome post. Maybe the best piece of advice since PLF's "So you want to live in Japan..." thread.

[stsparky]

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tor/881177993.jpg

bwahaha

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/a71ff9d0b13e3d34e96f1df4e121b8718f3c84e7_m.gif

[mikem]

I'd agree to mikem for you except...I went to Japan for the summer and met this nice Japanese girl, we kept in touch, I pretty much went to Japan for another trip to hangout with her, and went to live in Japan for about a year and then we got married. And now she lives in America.

I think the big difference is the fact that you guys kept in touch. I'd still bet you are more of the exception than the rule.


I suspect that it's the lack of communication and the culture differences that cause the "mystery" that attacts me so much. I wonder what happens when the mystery is unveiled.

You don't have to worry about this. It'll never happen.

[jindojim]

Oh yeah, without a doubt I'd probably bet I'm more of the exception than the rule. But I gave that story because I'd be the pot calling the kettle black if I were to completely endorse what you and Myuu are saying (even though I agree).

I guess what I'm tryin to say is that things can happen, but you gotta put in a lotta effort and leave a lot to chance too. In the vast majority of cases, that's too much of a gamble.

[stsparky]

I went to Japan twice, because a Hokkaido girl wowed me; And, she married the boy she was rebounding from back in 1991. We're still friendly. Our daughters are close in age, which strikes me as amusing. When I lived in Tokyo in 1994, it was simply weird. A Pinay hostess I met on the Company dime was convinced I was “Jesus” and tried to own my private parts. My steady was back home, and I wasn't as big as a jerk I could have been. I guess I wasn't as needy. It's just a freak of luck I met my wife en route to Comic Con. And it was a fluke she turned out to be Japanese.

[Chinpokomon]

I went to Japan twice, because a Hokkaido girl wowed me; And, she married the boy she was rebounding from back in 1991. We're still friendly. Our daughters are close in age, which strikes me as amusing. When I lived in Tokyo in 1994, it was simply weird. A Pinay hostess I met on the Company dime was convinced I was “Jesus” and tried to own my private parts. My steady was back home, and I wasn't as big as a jerk I could have been. I guess I wasn't as needy. It's just a freak of luck I met my wife en route to Comic Con. And it was a fluke she turned out to be Japanese.

Yet another mind fart from sparky. :frypan:
I keed, I keed...

[Kyletherealninja]

Chin, don't you know? Sparky's been everywhere and done everything. Everything. The only reason Jesus pisses him off so much is because he's the only serious competition. :P

[stsparky]

A Pinay screaming "Jesus" at climax is only charming once especially when you're Jewish. And suspicious jealously is kinda ugly.

[qwert]

sparky, you shouldn't make fun of people.

[stsparky]

I'm heartless in that one regard. Brutal.

[mikem]

sparky > jesus

[mcchuy45]

thanks for all the comments, either positive or negative.

[qwert]

So, what are you going to do?