Are younger kids just as scary?

[Esmira]

I found this site the other day, and just adore it, it mad me laugh quite a bit! Anyway, I'm going to be moving to Japan in September to teach English. The age range is babies-9ish. Can I expect just as much scary crap from them? :p Kids that young won't be trying to grab my breasts or anything, will they?

[freeradicals]

Thats if they can reach that is. I would think the little kids would be way too shy to grab a womans breasts, but then again Japan is random and it can happen.

[MaverickHL]

Thats if they can reach that is. I would think the little kids would be way too shy to grab a womans breasts, but then again Japan is random and it can happen.

With regards to the breast, not that I can think of (of course breast here do not really exist) but with kancho...that would be something different.

My kindergarten kids around age 4-5 know KANCHO and attempt it on me, or course them being small, I just pick them and twirl them a few times and then they get too dizzy hehe to try again.

[akitaka]

I doubt the chikan training starts THAT young. But I could be wrong.

[MaverickHL]

I doubt the chikan training starts THAT young. But I could be wrong.

Never underestimate the Japanese with regards to this, I am sure those chikan mindset has their ways of seeping to the youngers one rather quickly, and the perversion here in Japan can quickly poison children.

[PopCulturePooka]

I was never attempted-Chikan with younger kids.

It really depends. Some younger kids are painfully painfully shy, terrified of the gaijin.

Others are abosulte ADD nightmares because there parents view english lessons as a babysitting service while mummy has coffee with the other housewives.

[akitaka]

You see, a decade ago, I don't even think kancho and dick grabbing was apart of the school regime; I went to one in Nagano when I was a wee kid, and none of that occured. Did times change, or was I just lucky?

[l337m45t3r]

I'm sure there's a way to blame MTV for the Kancho, errr.... phenomenon?

Anyway, we just need to find it! :D

[Kustom]

You see, a decade ago, I don't even think kancho and dick grabbing was apart of the school regime; I went to one in Nagano when I was a wee kid, and none of that occured. Did times change, or was I just lucky?

You might have been lucky, my girlfriend witnessed it in her highschool in Chiba in the early nineties. She told me the first kancho occurence she came across was on TV in the 80s (a talento called Kato-chan, shethinks).
Although I understand that girls wouldn't mix up with the kancho/dickgrabing crowd at the time (is she just covering for what she did?).

It sure spread, since every kid teacher I met in Japan told me the same kind of story as Az wrote about. And women are also targets, they go for the breasts. I wouldn't be surprised if even young kids tried it out, since I've met some incredible brats who must have been no more than four... Pray!

(And I thought I had trouble with salarymen and housewives! Thank god Nova hasn't got French kid lessons)

[Esmira]

Eep! Looks like I'll have to keep on my guard.

[Excel-2008]

Teaching English to pre-intermediate school students? Has the government mandated English education to infants?

[Esmira]

It's not a required thing, I'm teaching at an English school called Hello Club. Probably for parents that want to immerse their kids in the language as early as possible.

[akitaka]

And women are also targets, they go for the breasts.

(stumbles)

[PopCulturePooka]

Teaching English to pre-intermediate school students? Has the government mandated English education to infants?
Private companies, eg Nova, do english lesson for kids as young as 2. Thats the 'official' age, but I did a demonstration kids lesson for an 18 month old who couldn't yet stand up or speak much in Japanese. It was,as you could imagine, a fucking nightmare.

But yeah, the parents will pay big bucks to put their little shit-machines in english learning straight away. They seem to think honestly think one 45 minute class a week, with a foreigner whose trainging to teach children was a 4 hour training session, will make them fluent in english.


Whats even scarier is I seriously doubt most of the english factories give proper background checks to determine whether a person is suitable to spend 45 minutes alone with young kids.

[Kustom]

My understanding is that leaving your 2 years-old with an English teacher while you go to the movies is much more accepted in Japan than hiring a babysitter (almost on par with infanticide)... I don't think they really care about their kids learning English from an early age, maybe it's bonus. Although I would never leave my kids with some of the teachers I met in Nova... Ignorance is bliss.

[Esmira]

My understanding is that leaving your 2 years-old with an English teacher while you go to the movies is much more accepted in Japan than hiring a babysitter (almost on par with infanticide)... I don't think they really care about their kids learning English from an early age, maybe it's bonus. Although I would never leave my kids with some of the teachers I met in Nova... Ignorance is bliss.

Well, as for this school, I'm not with any group, the school hired me directly. And the younger kids are accompanied by their parents, so it's not like the kiddies are being dumped with me. :p

[PopCulturePooka]

My understanding is that leaving your 2 years-old with an English teacher while you go to the movies is much more accepted in Japan than hiring a babysitter (almost on par with infanticide)... I don't think they really care about their kids learning English from an early age, maybe it's bonus. Although I would never leave my kids with some of the teachers I met in Nova... Ignorance is bliss.
Haha I'd heard of one story in our area where a mother left her little shitspwan in an english lesson with one teacher while she trotted back to her apartment for a 'private lesson' with another Nova teacher.

Gold.

[Sector]

Kids in Japan should get the same lecture treatment when I was in middle school. Our principal and vice principals would give us a long lecture about sexual harassment and give us the "I'm watching" finger-eye thing that went with their devil face. It's quite gross because they are old and wrinkly and ugly as they are, yet they have to give us that evil face. These kids are lucky they didn't get the treatment I had. As for the punishment when you sexually assualt someone, just "kancho" them and you can get expelled from my middle school.
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[akitaka]

I've always felt that Americans were less tolerant and way more likely to report you/smash your face in when something like that occured. Rape is more extreme and does go unreported, but sexual harrasment such as groping tends to be known. You can lecture kids all you wish, but until people start realising that their space is being intruded upon and act promptly, there's little reason on the pervert's behalf to stop.

[Guidguid]

Hallo, I am a new entry from Italy. Well, I don't know how it works in Japan, but in my country each school organize a "parents/teachers" talking day at least once any quarter. This is a good opportunity to discuss about the performance of the kids as well as about discipline issues.
If something is getting wrong with a student, any teacher can ask the parents to come and have a discussion about the problem, which is supposed to end in some action of the parents to correct the child wrong behaviour (I underline that it is just supposed to happen, but it often don't).
Based on what I can get by reading this thread, it seems that this kind of procedure is not available in Japan. Am I right? If yes, why it does not?

[akitaka]

I remember being told that back then, teachers had a stronger bond with their students. Personal, I should say, and that the discipline was from a sort of positive influence. Nowadays I read about incidents of student + destroy + teacher everytime, so I doubt that it exists there. PTAs seem to govern that crap but what do they do about it? I'm not sure.

[Guidguid]

I remember being told that back then, teachers had a stronger bond with their students. Personal, I should say, and that the discipline was from a sort of positive influence. Nowadays I read about incidents of student + destroy + teacher everytime, so I doubt that it exists there. PTAs seem to govern that crap but what do they do about it? I'm not sure.


I am quite new here, so I can just try to guess that PTAs means private school. I know that most of the students in Japan go to private school. In Italy is the opposite. 90 or 95% of students go in a public school, also because the 90% of the private schools are managed by catholic organizations, and we are definitively not so much involved with the religion here. But in spite of this, I mean in spite of fact that most of our students are in the public school, I never heard of students mistreating teachers in the way described in the editorials. I am so surprised. During several trips to Japan I have got the feeling that the students are very respectful and have discipline. It may be I was misleaded by the fact that they all wear an uniform (that in Italy we do not use since the 70's or so).

[akitaka]

PTA = Parent Teacher Association. A scary bunch, I might add.

[Jess]

Young kids are just as scary. While Japanese schools have little or no discipline in most cases, elementary students and younger children are allowed to get away with everything by indulgent Japanese adults.

I was a Junior High teaching JET that also taught community ed classes for children ages 4-12 (shougakko rokunensei) 3 nights a week. I spent most of my time with the 4-8 year olds.

The biggest difference about child rearing in Japan is they give small children total freedom...then come down on them like a ton of bricks with discipline and pressure late in elementary school, or early in junior high. My teachers considered me waaaaaay too nice to my chuugakusei ( My town was very inaka, so discipline was pretty tight ), but I was considered the evil ogre teacher for the Kodomo Eikaiwa and Chibiko Eikaiwa classes.

I would have 4 year old boys that would attempt frontal kanchos (I'm female), as well as the rear variety, and they would regularly attempt to lift my or my fellow Japanese English teacher's skirts.

Since they were young and not sexually aware, there was no breast grabbing, thank goodness. Being a fat white chick, I was generally free from the more egregious sexual approaches (except for that damned doctor. If I were in the U.S. I could've sued that bastard for all he's worth. Pervert.), but my breasts were often a draw. Gr. I was told not to wear sleeveless shirts to work - even tasteful, full coverage sleevless blouses. I was informed they were too revealing and would...excite the students. But then one of the prettier Japanese teachers came to work in leather pants and fire engine red high heels.

*sigh*

It can be difficult, frustrating, and time consuming, but after a while you can often establish enough authority to avoid all but the more determined student assaults, while still remaining a "fun teacher".

Don't give an inch...they really DO take a mile.

[tekkan]

Wow.

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I think some of these 4 year old kids have gotten more action than me.