The Clique that you hate the most. [Archive]

Praetorian

09-25-2005, 03:04 PM

Skaters. They proclaim to be anarchists wearing their little Che t-shirts they bought from some popular culture shop while that's the complete opposite of what Che would have wanted in the first place.

Also, their ideas for anarchy suck. You can't have a decent conversation with them because everything they say is hipocrisy and illogical.

Me: So you want Anarchy. No more police?
Skater: DOWN WITH THE POLICE!
Me: Right. But who will protect your anarchistic society then? Not everybody will peacefully comply.
Skater: Well, I guess farmers could just hire like, protection, in return for bread and other things.
Me: ... Kind of like the police?
Skater: DOWN WITH THE POLICE! THE POLICE ARE PIGS!

EDIT: Or an even better one. Actual conversation.

Skater: I hate authority and influential people telling me what to do!
Me: So why do you hate the Netherlands then? This is probably the free-est country in the world.
Skater: Because Anti Flag told me to!
Me: ...

Sardaukar

09-25-2005, 03:05 PM

I despise "emo". My friend pissed one of them off once, and he got bitched about on myspace.com. Ultimate character assassination!

Soli

09-25-2005, 03:12 PM

I hate how some people think that if you're in band your a geek.

Random

09-25-2005, 03:14 PM

The massive group of people using nothing but netspeak or leetspeak in conversations, either trying to look cool or because they can't be bothered to type properly. They all suck.
You can't hold a decent conversation with them, reading what they say takes up more effort than it's worth, and sometimes they also strip grammar from what they say, so you get this:
"hi u r hu? k? wn go ot sumtme? k bi"

Those people irritate me.

Fallen Angel

09-25-2005, 03:33 PM

There's 2 "gangs" I don't like... The "Flower Girls" and the "Always Fresh".
First are the girls wearing almost only pink and joyful flowers and talking about everyone in their back, giggling stupidly. They're the first ones to know something about someone that nobody wants anybody to know, and spreading the rumors like no one.
Second are the guys looking down on people who are "different"... and that means, almost anyone who's not a "Flower Girl". Once your are the target of those guys, you simply can't have a normal school life. They'll do anything to piss you off and when you react it's only worse.

4letterwords

09-25-2005, 03:38 PM

I hate every clique. People throw me into thousands just because of the way I dress. For the love of god a black t shirt and jeans doesn't qualify me for punk or whatever. I get called punk a lot but I hate punk people.

Benaire said I was gothic.

.................................................. ..

Well I guess I'd rather be called punk than goth.

I hate everybody. :D

Wear clothes people!

I dunno. I find people who chant about being different from the in-crowd (punks, goth, etc) are the biggest hypocrites in the world and they have the highest standards of who is in their group and who is a poseur.

Yay for being uniquely the same!

koku

09-25-2005, 03:46 PM

Yeah I'd say I don't like the ones that take cliques seriously and think you have to blend in with one and stay there; I like to bounce around and make many different kinds of friends.

So I like people who just turn a blind eye to all that.

But the spoiled emo kid who just likes to cry wolf and has it better than they think is someone I'll disregard/mock. I think it's better to try and fix it/move on with your life than to mope around all day.

That be my opinion.

DarkFire168

09-25-2005, 04:26 PM

Goths/Punks/Em/Skaters: They're all posers. They're the cliched "Non-conformist" who's conforming by being one of these stereotypes. I get alot of flack and get called a cowboy by them because I wear plaid. WTF? I mean seriously, I just find plaid shirts to be extremely comfortable. Stupid hypocrites.

"The In-Crowd": God these people are just about the worst side of humanity possible. They think they're better because they're rich/pretty. It's fucking ANNOYING. Airheads, god I hate them.

Wanna Be Newsreporter people: I bring these fuckers up when I doubt anyone else would because quite simply, they are as bad as the In-Crowd. They like to think that they're superior to you because they work in a high school newspaper, because ya know, that's the zenith of the intellectual culture, a high school newspaper. Yeah, right. (/sarcasm). They use their little papers like emos use myspace. They perform attacks on people by slipping their little articles out. It's pathetic. That and they're eavesdropping bastards.

Bob

09-25-2005, 04:26 PM

Goths

They're all bitches

Ev0

09-25-2005, 04:56 PM

unoriginal_cyn

09-25-2005, 05:04 PM

I dislike the "In-Crowd" more than any other clique. Sure punks/goths/emo kids are cliches, but the In-Crowd are the biggest flock of sheep of them all.
I also find the whole anarchy thing to be ridiculous. It's just fashion. The movie SLC Punk (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133189/) just about sums up my views on the whole punk scene.

Overkongen

09-25-2005, 05:10 PM

Wooo, just about every clique is bad...

Basically, aren't cliques for people who don't have enough brain-power to make up their own minds about who they are?

My beef would be mainly with political youth groups, though. I remember I was once at this Liberalist youth party, and this girl comes up and starts talking to me about how good some of their ideas are. I ask her how she feels about the education system, and she replies: "I don't know, so I just have the same opinion as the party!" (Freethinkers, yay!)

Oooh, and the extreme lefties aren't much better. I think there is something truly magical about these people saying that war is wrong, and violence stops nothing, and yet, they're the one group that is most likely to start violent rampages.

They're the ones who'll preach tolerance to you, and yet, if you try saying that tolerance isn't always going to work out, some of them (not all, though) will consider you a bad person, who they don't wish to talk to anymore (Now that's tolerance, huh?)

Praetorian

09-25-2005, 05:12 PM

Basically, aren't cliques for people who don't have enough brain-power to make up their own minds about who they are?

That was simply a perfect way to describe cliques. Thanks, I'll use that more often.

stillbornsinger

09-25-2005, 05:12 PM

Cliques seem to become a tad more subtle when you get out to the "real world" but they are still there... The one that annoys the hell out of me the most is the...

"We're oppressed black people by da wite folk"

or

"a black person would neva... *insert random action here*"

The guys who constantly play the race card in any situation they can while generally being worthless at work. Those guys are jackasses in general and only really care about themselves. They are some of the most racist people I've ever met and they don't even realize it.

Down with the race card!

Jiant Flying Panda

09-25-2005, 05:24 PM

Racers AKA "Rice Rocketers"

Now. Some of them are cool but the vast majority I can't stand. I don't know about where you live, but here in California we have a shitload of these "2 Fast 2 Furious" wannabes.

Things they do that get's to me:

- They think they are cooler than everyone else. Seriously, if your not a racer it's like your automatically non-eligable to be one of their friends.

- The ones I went to high school with..... Or should have went to high school with. What annoys me is that they are "too cool for school" so they never go expecting that they will graduate..... Oh man was I happy when I didn't see them on stage. Losers. :D

- How shallow, spoiled and superficial they can be. I never seen one of these guys not wear something the average kid would wear. Seriously, it's always some expensive name brand shit and some shoes that costed their parents 150+ dollars for. And they think they are cool because of it. As well as the fact that they didn't even buy their car but their paresnt did, as well as all the mods that went into it.

- Now. What really get's to me is how hard they think they are. They think they can fight anyone and win.... Haha, funny. I got into a stupid fight with 2 of these bitches once at the same time. One of them pulled out a butterfly knife because I was kicking both their asses. I'm still alive so..... I wonder who won?

I also got threatend to get beat up by one of them because I beat him at a game of Halo 2 MP one night at a friends house, LMAO!

So yeah.... That's who I hate.

Loc

09-25-2005, 05:42 PM

Assholes...
Is that even a clique? *shrug* They seem to hang around with each other though. They annoy me, I do love taking the piss out of them though, they go quiet and walk away eventually ^_^

Janken

09-25-2005, 05:51 PM

Goths. Another word for "suck ass pussies who wear black and try to seem like a tortured artist because they're too damned stupid to realize how much of a dumbass they really look."

"Emos". No one cares about your problems. Infact, you're right. You're all alone in the world and everybody hates you. Go kill yourself now and save us all the trouble of listening to your retarded banterings about how much your life sucks.

Wiggers. "Hey look, I can listen to shitty music while wearing clothes 10 sizes too big. My pants are falling off of my ass and I have back problems because of the weight of my "bling-bling." I'M SO COOL!"

stillbornsinger

09-25-2005, 05:56 PM

JFP- that reminds me...

the stunter crowd... in reference to motorcycle cliques. They piss me off because they do dumb stunts on public roads and earn a bad name for sportbikers. You never notice the 3 guys who are riding along at a sane speed enjoying their time off from work. You notice the guy who is doing a wheelie through a crowded intersection and a stoppie at every stop.

Thats also the guy who claims insurance when he totals his bike doing something dumb and makes my insurance rates go up for owning a sportbike, or makes it so that my insurance company drops coverage on sportbikes completely.

Or they are the guys who steal a bike, ride it around and trash it then ditch it somewhere because they can't afford their 5th bike and nobody will cover their insurance anymore.

Sk8More

09-25-2005, 05:57 PM

Wow this was really informative. HOw so true about the Majority of skaters being "Yeah, Man fuck tha Police! Go Anarchy!", and half of the asses don't know how to spell anarchy.

Gangstas, oh yeah boy do I hate them cause they act so homogeneous, no individuality AT ALL.Its like once you swerve a little they hate you ALthough, music will always equal preference, so you can't say listen to real music when your listening to 9inchNail's I wanna fuck you like an animal or something.

Janken

09-25-2005, 06:02 PM

The song is called Closer. And it's a good song. NiN rule.

CNagy

09-25-2005, 06:28 PM

Agreed, good song; though they totally fucked up when they attempted to remix and rerelease it as Closer to God.

stillbornsinger

09-25-2005, 06:33 PM

Rap isn't really music... but that discussion is probably best left for another thread.

Anubis Nine

09-25-2005, 06:39 PM

The redneck kids.

I live in a rural community, and these group of people are the 'gangstas' of the forestry/farming community. I've met nice people from the in crowd. I've met some actual intelligent goths/emos (Yes intelligent emokid is an oxymoron).

My biggest problem with the redneck kids is that they're usually guys. They're usually guys with intollerant views of most everything and they're fucking DANGEROUS. I've only ever met two of them that had a brain so to speak and they're willing to hit a girl if they see her as less than a person. (Ie: Not like them) I got into a fight with some of them last year because they were heckling my school's Gay-Straight Alliance. They have NO qualms about hitting a girl. Or holding one's arms and feeling her up because she needs to learn that guys are better than girls. (Not like I was a lesbian anyway. I'm glad it happened to me and not someone else).

But, I'm off topic.

The Redneck kids.

Also, for a small note on the 'in crowd' As far as I can tell, the *actual* in crowd is a moderate group of (Usually girls) that is in fact, really not that bad. They can go in with different groups of people and be friendly as long as the other group is friendly. This is why they're so popular. Usually they try hard in school and get good grades even if they're dumb as bricks. I have no problem with them, I actually respect them a lot.

Where one comes into trouble would be the faux 'in-crowd'. These people are people that dress up like they can actually wear that size 0 (Or 4 or 14) when in actuality they have rolls of flab running down their pants and jiggling when they walk, or they actually ARE thin. These people have one thing in common and it's that they're bitchy. Overall, I don't see that they ALL hang out together, making them not the 'in crowd' but some twisted mutant cousin or something.

The funniest moment I ever had was this short fat thing on the bus telling me to watch it as she shoved past me to get on before me. I'm not a really big girl, but by hell I've got a dense body and I'm damned strong. I shoulder her to the side and say watch it. (Not expecting anything) and this 4'11'' pudgy fat girl wearing clothes three sizes too small challenges me to a fight.

Usually they get bad grades because in addition to not trying in school, they're bloody stupid.

Thats it. YOU. Out of the gene pool!

Shamu

09-25-2005, 06:53 PM

Well, I didn't really hate any one group when I was in high school, because I hung out with everyone and yes, I was popular.
I had friends who were jocks, band geeks, skaters, ect...I couldn't help it, I didn't fit in to anyone group, so I hung out with all of them.
My high school was wierd though, and I didn't know that until I went to college. The concert master of our symphony orchestra was also one of the best football players on our team. Most members of our track/football/basball/ect.. team were also in choir/band/orchestra/debate/ect... and our class president was the fattest kid in our class, he was also extremely popular because he was nice and funny and the vice president was the leader of our "skater clique" he was also very popular.
We really did a good job of blending together. I'm not saying it was a perfect high school society, we had our cliques and problems, but from what I've heard from other people, my high school kicked ass!
I guess I just grew up with the idea that you should be whatever you want to be and who cares. I really miss home...

On a side note, NiN rules! Trent Reznor is way hot (am I strange for thinking that?).
I've been trained in classical music (been in orchestras and choirs a good portion of my life) and I think rap is music, but that's just me. ;)
Edit: I almost forgot to add that we had our token cross dresser too. He used to wear skirts and dresses to school. Funny thing is, he had better taste than alot of the girls :p.

Shadowknight

09-25-2005, 06:54 PM

People who are hardcore into politics; I don't care about the Democrats or the Republicans, or any broad sweeping claims of how ALL of them think. I don't care about neo-liberal-conservatives. I don't care about being for/against something. There are more opinions than being for/against abortion. Sometimes looking at option "c", i.e. an original idea or opinion, is better than a simple yes/no answer.

Oh, and Overclockers. I don't care how fast they can push their equipment. Besides, I'm into making my computer as quiet as possible, and people bragging about how awesome their computer is because their loud and fast fans are supposed to indicate how powerful it is, like a noisy Harley motorcycle, is supposed to be cool. It doesn't matter what the fans sound like, you can usually have the EXACT same cooling with much slower, and quieter fans. Really.

Zaysho

09-25-2005, 06:56 PM

Wiggers and "Gangsta" wannabes- Bunch of loud mouth assholes who probably grew up in a rich family and they try to act "ghetto" just because they saw it on MTV.

Goths/Emos- Whiny, selfish people who are just out looking for attention. They think they are "unique" despite all of them going to Hot Topic.

Punk rockers- Ignorant morons who only listen to bad music such as Linkin Park and Green Day, and then have the gall to call GOOD music such as the Eagles and the Beatles "grandpa music".

CNagy

09-25-2005, 06:56 PM

Oh, and Overclockers. I don't care how fast they can push their equipment. Besides, I'm into making my computer as quiet as possible, and people bragging about how awesome their computer is because their loud and fast fans are supposed to indicate how powerful it is, like a noisy Harley motorcycle, is supposed to be cool. It doesn't matter what the fans sound like, you can usually have the EXACT same cooling with much slower, and quieter fans. Really.
Eventually they'll grow up, get jobs, and watercool their systems. Car radiators are also a viable choice.

Random

09-25-2005, 07:03 PM

Punk rockers- Ignorant morons who only listen to bad music such as Linkin Park and Green Day, and then have the gall to call GOOD music such as the Eagles and the Beatles "grandpa music".

I listen to Greenday, Linkin Park AND The Eagles. Where does that put me?

(ooh - I'm assuming you mean Eagles of Hotel California fame?)

That said, I also listen to (j) pop.

Cnagy - I want to watercool, but can't afford too. Until then, I do underclock to make my pc quiet. Can't stand noisy fans.

Tssss..

09-25-2005, 07:15 PM

all anarchists are not punks or skaters. they aren't even real anarchists. they just want to rebel and use anarchism as their excuse for not respecting authority.

nice gaijin

09-25-2005, 07:23 PM

those damned elitist jerks!

Yoonafkenenen

09-25-2005, 07:28 PM

I hate those guys that try to get me to share their soup with them every time I'm walking through school. I'm like..."Jesus Tap-dancing Christ, guys! This is college, I'm not sharing your tomato bisque." but they just don't listen.

Bastards.

In all seriousness though, I'm not going to generalize an entire group of people, even in hatred. There's good and bad in all groups, so there's no point in me saying I hate one or the other.

Sock Full of Boiled Dimes

09-25-2005, 07:45 PM

I wear clothes.

If I was part of any clique I would be ultimatly pissed off.

I wear "punk" clothes I have "emo" style haircuts sometimes I was apperently "goth" at one stage of my life. I think I was called a Wigger once, but I wanted to stay far from that. Maybe it was because my pants didn't fit me well.

Anyway I just buy clothes from wherever I want besides Old Navy and Banana Republic.

I'm not trying to be anyone I am just myself and I want to keep it that way.

Bob

09-25-2005, 08:55 PM

My biggest problem with the redneck kids is that they're usually guys. They're usually guys with intollerant views of most everything and they're fucking DANGEROUS. I've only ever met two of them that had a brain so to speak and they're willing to hit a girl if they see her as less than a person. (Ie: Not like them) I got into a fight with some of them last year because they were heckling my school's Gay-Straight Alliance. They have NO qualms about hitting a girl.

If you think you shouldn't be hit because you're a girl, you're more ignorant than they are

I think ill go beat down some girls later just for you

In summary, i hope you get raped by a donkey

CNagy

09-25-2005, 08:59 PM

Remind me to kick Bob's teeth into the back of his throat if I ever cross paths with him. Man, that was totally uncool, totally uncalled for, and served no purpose save to tell the rest of the world that you are a prick.

Edit: If your joking, it's in poor taste. Men should not hit women. There are extenuating circumstances, like self-defense, but this definitely doesn't sound like one of those cases. Women generally don't lash out at guys first, when they do you are in the self-defense category. Otherwise, you are just picking on someone who is probably physically weaker than you, possibly defenseless, and yeah, it makes you a prick. In summation, there will always be a bigger guy who doesn't care if "the bitch had it coming," and I hope he crushes your hands.

Praetorian

09-25-2005, 08:59 PM

If you think you shouldn't be hit because you're a girl, you're more ignorant than they are

I think ill go beat down some girls later just for you

In summary, i hope you get raped by a donkey

I agree with the bold part. The rest was kind of moronic, but obviously meant as a joke. I hope.

4letterwords

09-25-2005, 09:08 PM

I don't think girls should be hit by guys. A friend of mine used to say to me "If a girl can hit a guy, then a guy can hit a girl".../ridiculousness....

Guys are stronger than girls, period. I suppose if the girl is by chance stronger than the guy, then yea, go ahead, hit her if she deserves it.

I think the poster meant guys that hit girls without purpose... ala men who beat their wives for not washing a dish properly and such.

In that case, I hope those guys get cancer.

kensei

09-25-2005, 09:10 PM

I think the whole clique system is a sad way that teenagers (generally) force themselves into a caste system. I can understand wanting to befriend those who share your interest, but to completely shun those who don't? Don't proclaim yourself a member of a certain group to fit in with your peers. Being yourself should be enough.

ToonE

09-25-2005, 09:17 PM

im not in a group i got friends from every clique pretty much im gunna form my own group called the every clique clique

setrict

09-25-2005, 09:18 PM

Foaming at the mouth religious types whether they be Christian, Athiest, or whatever. That's right I said Athiest. Anyone that can get riled up and organized for the sole purpose of believing in nothing really pisses me off. I'm all for people believing or not believing whatever they choose, but people that try to cram it down someone elses throat... grrrrr.

Bob

09-25-2005, 09:26 PM

[edit] stop trolling

Shadowknight

09-25-2005, 09:41 PM

Eventually they'll grow up, get jobs, and watercool their systems. Car radiators are also a viable choice.
I've only got three fans in my computer, no watercooling, and have the computer less than 18db. Not that hard to do quiet aircooling with the right parts at all.

Zaysho

09-25-2005, 10:00 PM

I listen to Greenday, Linkin Park AND The Eagles. Where does that put me?

(ooh - I'm assuming you mean Eagles of Hotel California fame?)

I was referring to those that keep saying classic rock is just old music and something no one listens too/is not worth listening to. I don't have anything against people's taste in music, it's just when they rag on others for listening to certain styles of music that it bothers me. For example, a friend of mine was listening to the Eagles when someone told him it was "grandpa music" and he should listen to "better music" (IE. Linkin Park). These are the kinds of people that bother me. I mean, you don't see me going up to the "ghetto" kids and tell them to stop listening to Tupac (or whatever's around these days) and pick up an album by Lynyrd Skynyrd or anything.

(and yes, I was referring to the Eagles. I doubt there are any other bands out there with the same name.)

NERD

09-25-2005, 10:16 PM

If you disagree with me then fuck you, youre wrong

Nice. Whatever happened to playing nice? Been bullied too much in the 'real world', chap? Doesn't give you the right to act that way though.

Bob

09-25-2005, 10:22 PM

Nice. Whatever happened to playing nice? Been bullied too much in the 'real world', chap?

No, not really. I dont need justification, im just that good

Daishikaze

09-25-2005, 10:24 PM

*Pats Bob on the back* You tell him Skippy!

*walks away giggling at the "BAN ME" sign stuck on Bob's back*

J/K :D

NERD

09-25-2005, 10:33 PM

No, not really. I dont need justification, im just that good

I'm guessing they misread the directions "insert alcohol" when you were wee one and went along with piss and vinegar instead, Bernard. No wonder I mistook you for an Epsilon.

Sock Full of Boiled Dimes

09-25-2005, 10:34 PM

In that case, I hope those guys get cancer.

What if the guy and girl were wanting to get kinky?

NERD

09-25-2005, 10:36 PM

What if the guy and girl were wanting to get kinky?

If you wanted to spread cancer through getting kinky, then there's a whole new level of being kinky. I dare not imagine how.

Shamu

09-25-2005, 10:42 PM

I think it's perfectly fine for a man to hit a woman in self deffence and vice versa, a woman shouldn't hit a man unless it's self deffence.
What I think is funny is when two cliques start to hit eachother, because they think their clique is the best...it just makes me laugh because they both look stupid. In that case I think it's ok for them to hit. That's right, just beat the stupidity out of eachother you stupid f***ers!
Otherwise, let's all try and get along please :D!

ElectronicPhreak

09-25-2005, 10:44 PM

I hate how some people think that if you're in band your a geek.

The band is a society within itself. They're really some of the nicest people you'll meet. All the hormones and gossip is just too good to pass up. I'm one of the sophmore band groupies, as I don't have the commitment to be in the band, but almost everyone I know is in the band.

usethendestroy

09-25-2005, 11:00 PM

I guess I'm a bit old for cliques as I generally relate to them as group of people at highschool or college. That doesn't stop something alike forming, say at a workplace, but at least the clique at work doesn't automatically want to dress a like or giggle incoherently as the senior v.p. walks past.

Anyways, to mention a group of people that I dislike, it's rednecks.
Now this doesn't automatically mean a gun-toting good ole boy, but it also includes some metrosexual urban fuckwits who, as their rural cousin, have their heads so far up their arses that they have difficulty seeing the world around them.

It's hard for me to describe the bigotry and pettiness these both seemingly different groups exhibit in similar manners, but I hope you catch my drift.

Chelsums

09-25-2005, 11:15 PM

I go to a prep school (it even has prep in its name >_>) so most of the cliques are full of... well preps. And then you have the "punk" clique and the "theatre" clique. And then me, my friends, and a few other people who are... the leftovers.

The one I really can't stand is the theatre clique because I'm in all the plays at my school but since I'm not a "theatre geek" (though I do randomly quote Shakespeare), I'm always excluded. I'm not invited to the cast parties. I'm not apart of any of the conversations. Today at rehearsal they wouldn't give me a piece of pizza even though I offered to pay for it. And like 5 people who didn't pay for it (but are in the play clique) could have a piece for nothing. Discrimination!!

Cliques suck.

NERD

09-25-2005, 11:23 PM

Actors and dancers are probably one of the most dramatic people I've ever encountered... and not in a good way, but people who just exaggerate whatever emotions that may be flowing through them. You're better off without them, trust me.

akitaka

09-25-2005, 11:23 PM

What I think is funny is when two cliques start to hit eachother, because they think their clique is the best...it just makes me laugh because they both look stupid. In that case I think it's ok for them to hit. That's right, just beat the stupidity out of eachother you stupid f***ers!
Otherwise, let's all try and get along please :D!

Natural selection for the win.

Unfortunatly the only clique I've ever known was the artsy clique, since that's the type of school I went to. Sure, there were a few anime kids, but they didn't do much. Not that I was artsy, though.

Here in Scottsdale there's tension between any rich North Scottsdale person and the 'ghetto' vato kids. I've never seen either of them walk side by side. Ever.

Myrsilus

09-25-2005, 11:31 PM

None of the cliques really cause me to hate them easily, but I do dislike all of them for the most part. If I had to choose one that I dislike the most, it would probably be the "in-crowd". Snobbish, self-absorbed, and sometimes vindictive. Basically the guys are jerks and the girls are bitches while also being fickle and sometimes ditzy. I have had a lot of conflict with these types of people for some reason.

But those aren't the most annoying... The most annoying are the wiggas or any other race group that attempts to be like this. Especially when they are loud... That's when my hate comes.

Nessa

09-25-2005, 11:47 PM

Hey, what's with all the Goth hate? Goth is a very broad term, and I just happen to fall into it.

Fallen Angel

09-25-2005, 11:51 PM

Why should we put people in "gangs" based on the way they dress and the music they are listening to? That's what I don't understand. Not every goths are suicidal, not every punks wants anarchy, etc... can't we wair anything we want without being categorized?

Ok, I said before that I didn't like "Flower Girls" and "Always Fresh" but I was talking a kind of people (the way they act), not they way they dress.

At school everyone thinks that me and my friends are Goths. We're not. We're just wearing a lot of black. Some girl (one of the "Flower Girl") even asked if we were doing orgy. W.T.F. Okay so if I'm following the way people think, 'cause I prefer wearing black clothes, I'm suicidal and I'm doing orgy with my friends? It doesn't have any sense. Oh and don't forget. I'm always whinning and I'm selfish. Yeah right...

Plus, some girls at my school are actually SCARED of us. We're not doing anything scary. We're not on drugs, we're not always drunk, we don't have tattoos all over our bodies, we don't have like 10+ piercings, we're not looking at people like we would like to murder them or suck their blood. Is wearing black so scary?

Myrsilus

09-25-2005, 11:55 PM

This may be an incorrect assumption, but I believe they mean they hate those that fall under the extremes of these cliques. You should not think they hate just any goth or whatever.

Oh yeah, I've been called a goth before... I wear a lot of black and people used to associate my choice of clothing with that clique. That quickly passed. I never seemed to fall under any clique since I had friends from all types of cliques.

Samwise

09-26-2005, 12:00 AM

Drama fags.

It's depressing how the guys are gayer than I am (not insulting, I's just sayin') and yet get more ass than Ron Jeremy.

Dammit, if I knew how to make myself cry on cue and sing like a 12-year old castratti I'd probably be rolling in it, too.

Fallen Angel

09-26-2005, 12:02 AM

Samwise

09-26-2005, 12:06 AM

Well anyway it doesn't bother me... I think that Goths, like almost every clothes style, are nice. But what bothers me is the way they think we are (the orgy thing and all)... plus, I'm not really wearing gothish clothes. My clothes are just.. black. Anyway ^^;

Look, letting the public assume that you and your friends are into ritualistic orgies is not always a bad thing.

There are advantages that come with group sex. Like, umm... Well, hey, have you ever had a moment where you thought "You know? I could definitely use an ass in my face right about now."? No, because you're into orgies.

rush

09-26-2005, 12:08 AM

Emos. Since when did wearing girl pants, eyeliner, and kissing guys all the time become cool? I wouldn't mind that much if they didn't try to suck each other's faces off in the hallways and shit.

I don't know what to call them, but I also hate people that are morons that think they're invincible just because they're surrounded by other fucking shitheads. You know, the ones that will talk shit to you endlessly until you get him/her by themselves, then they act like they're going to shit down both legs. What's the matter? Can't be big and brave without all your douchebag friends here?

For the most part, cliques are stupid. I don't get how dressing and acting the same as everyone else is fun, but oh well. Maybe I'm just missing something.

Myrsilus

09-26-2005, 12:12 AM

Sadly not everyone thinks on a level past "Hey black clothes... Goth!!!" Oh... I remember once I saw this goth girl at a bar that was freakin' covered in belts. I'm not sure how to explain it... and she had black lipstick, eyeshadow, piercings, everything... I was a little freaked at how extreme she took that fashion sense. =\

I've worn black clothes for a while now, and I seem to have a tendency to wear clothes that may not appear to be very casual. So I also get that I am some rich kid or an agent. People will jump to conclusions...

I just thought of another clique that bugs me... I'm not sure what to call them, but it is the clique made up of people that like to show off their knowledge at the most inappropriate times. This included randomly interjecting with a foreign language just to get people's attention. Or the type of people that will keep anyone else from participating in a discussion by trying to speak up over everyone else and hinder group participation. I could go on, but I really don't know what to call these people... I have seen them group together, though.

I don't know what to call them, but I also hate people that are morons that think they're invincible just because they're surrounded by other fucking shitheads. You know, the ones that will talk shit to you endlessly until you get him/her by themselves, then they act like they're going to shit down both legs. What's the matter? Can't be big and brave without all your douchebag friends here?
Gangs?

Hah, I'm being too specific. Those are present in almost all the cliques man. Especially in the "in crowd". Seen it and experienced it. Problem is in the "in crowds", people tend to backstab each other at one point or the other.

Firefly

09-26-2005, 12:14 AM

Annoying MSN Person

09-26-2005, 12:21 AM

Hate is pointless. Others exist in this world soley to reaffirm the fact that you, in all your mediocrity, can muster up a sense of self righteousness and disdain for the paths that others must take.

Oh yes. Emo all the way, bitches.

rush

09-26-2005, 12:23 AM

I just thought of another clique that bugs me... I'm not sure what to call them, but it is the clique made up of people that like to show off their knowledge at the most inappropriate times. This included randomly interjecting with a foreign language just to get people's attention. Or the type of people that will keep anyone else from participating in a discussion by trying to speak up over everyone else and hinder group participation. I could go on, but I really don't know what to call these people... I have seen them group together, though.

My last GF is a prime example of that. Annoying as fuck.

And no, I wouldn't call them gangs. It's just more like a bunch of kids that think they're popular. "Oh wow, look at us! We're so cool because there's like 8 of us and we all have Hollister and other shitty clothes that we ripped intentionally. Look at that guy over there, minding his own business! Since there's so many of us and we're so SUPER COOL, lets talk shit because we're just that awesome!!!"

The main reason I wouldn't call them 'gangs' is that they usually suck hardcore at fighting. There's nothing more fun then getting 2 or 3 of your good friends and absolutely owning the bastards. :D

Jiant Flying Panda

09-26-2005, 12:26 AM

Sacramento Nor-Cal girls, who dress up to go to Albertsons to buy bread. I HATE these snobby, rich, wanna-be Laguna Beach all-stars. They're rude, snobby, and hate anyone lesser than themselves. They can be spotted in Sacramento and the surrounding areas, their faces full of make-up, oversized Paris Hilton Sunglasses, "Real" Louis Vatton bags and stilettos.

Hehe. But Lin, you gotta admit. They're hott.

I know which kind of girls your talking about..... But, when I really think about it I cant think of one of those kind of girls who I went to HS with that was actually snobby and hated people "lesser" than them. All the girls I knew like that were pretty nice.

But I guess I just went to an awesome HS :o.

Nor-Cal girls..... For the win!

Aria

09-26-2005, 12:26 AM

Since the topic appears to be goths, here's what I think about it.

Goths, in my terribly limited experience, seem to be...well...a little on the anti-social side. They don't seem to want to talk to people outside their established group of friends. If engaged, they will talk as much as courtesy depicts, but they don't act like they particularly want to share your company.

And black, of course, is widely regarded as a negative color. Even though half the people that dress in all black probably don't realize/think about it, the people that see them in all black on the everyday occasion get a subconscious message that says "away with ye". Most of us can say that they dress themselves in accordance with what they feel on the inside. One usually infuses a little bit of their personality into their wardrobe. So of course when you see someone in all black, you kind of get the feeling that they're not particularly bubbly, happy or friendly...and that's sometimes a little discouraging. So there's my 2 cents on all that "I'm not mean, I just dress in all black!" shiz.

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What cliques do I not like....I grew up in the middle of what one would call white suburbia. Despite my school being largely white, there were a good number of Asians, blacks, indians, and what not. But I really can't say there were any "cliques". There were different groups since not every kid in the school could hang out in the same group (that's like...a 600 people large group...) but I would never say that they were cliques. One was never mean/hostile to the other. No one looked down on the others (though maybe some of the seniors didn't like the freshmen too much...but that's to be expected. :-p) and no one really gave anyone else any trouble. Our "groups" weren't set up by interest, persay, but more like...by their scholastic involvement. We had the AP/Honors kids, the regular kids, the band kids, some of which were part of the AP group, the computer kids who may have been in the AP or the regular classes and the kids who didn't try in school but who participated in the drama productions or dance shows. We had so many different groups and no one kid was really just part of one. And I have to say that hearing about what all you go through with actual cliques, I'm just like "that really happens?". Living in CA, I would've thought I'd encounter cliques, but I guess I can't really say I have, according to what cliques really are, hm?

Myrsilus

09-26-2005, 12:33 AM

My last GF is a prime example of that. Annoying as fuck.

And no, I wouldn't call them gangs. It's just more like a bunch of kids that think they're popular. "Oh wow, look at us! We're so cool because there's like 8 of us and we all have Hollister and other shitty clothes that we ripped intentionally. Look at that guy over there, minding his own business! Since there's so many of us and we're so SUPER COOL, lets talk shit because we're just that awesome!!!"

The main reason I wouldn't call them 'gangs' is that they usually suck hardcore at fighting. There's nothing more fun then getting 2 or 3 of your good friends and absolutely owning the bastards. :D
Sorry your last GF was like that... I would never be able to stomach a GF like that. No offense.

I know what you mean, ha ha. This is very much like the in-crowd. They'll crowd with one another and, using their strength in numbers as a security blanket, go around insulting people. Now me... I am trained to fight, but I have never been in a real fight past elementary school (backfisted the guy into the ground). But my friends sure don't mind getting bloody. A friend of mine was being insulted by one of these guys who thought his boys would have his back, so he kept messing with my friend. And he's a big 6 ft guy. So then my friend proceeded to beat the crap out of him. And here's the great part... While he was being beaten, the guy did not fight back... he just curled up and screamed... "Coach! Coach! He's hitting me coach!!" (This happened in the gymnasium). No one really came to his aid for a while, as it was the coach who stopped everything. His friends just let him get beaten to all hell.

Ah, justice...

And about Aria saying black does not really convey happiness... I'll have to agree. It's even worse that I'm so quiet and look like I'm glaring at people. Couple my personality with my clothes and I get a lot of wary glances and people asking if I am alright. Hm... :(

Ev0

09-26-2005, 12:37 AM

Well, maybe I should describe the clique situation at my old high school.

My school was extremely diverse. We had tons of different ethnic groups, and we all tended to get along well. Fights were extremely rare. But, all the different ethnic groups formed their own cliques. We had the Russians, the Persians, the Koreans, the rich Jews, and so forth. This made me realize though, how much Toronto was like that. Everyone praises how ethnically diverse Toronto is, but in reality, it's just a bunch of ethnic groups living within close proximity to eachother. I can't ever recall seeing, say, a black guy chatting with an Indian guy (outside of a business setting). Now, keep in mind this mostly applies to the older generations. Lots of younger people are willing to mix and mingle with people from different cultural backgrounds.

Just my thoughts...

Firefly

09-26-2005, 12:38 AM

Hehe. But Lin, you gotta admit. They're hott.

I know which kind of girls your talking about..... But, when I really think about it I cant think of one of those kind of girls who I went to HS with that was actually snobby and hated people "lesser" than them. All the girls I knew like that were pretty nice.

But I guess I just went to an awesome HS :o.

Nor-Cal girls..... For the win!

To be honest, their personality and the fact that they all look the same totally turns me off.

You see Rich, you're a GUY. Of course they're going to be nice to you. I'm a girl that would rather surf or skimboard at the beach than get a tan. I wear hoodies and sneakers, not heals and wifebeaters. They see me as being below them, and therefore, not worthy of their time.

Myrsilus

09-26-2005, 12:44 AM

To be honest, their personality and the fact that they all look the same totally turns me off.

You see Rich, you're a GUY. Of course they're going to be nice to you. I'm a girl that would rather surf or skimboard at the beach than get a tan. I wear hoodies and sneakers, not heals and wifebeaters. They see me as being below them, and therefore, not worthy of their time.
I think they can be pretty, but not attractive... Maybe I'm misusing the term attractive as defined by today's standards, but when I think attractive, I think about a person as a whole. And those girls piss me the hell off...

Shamu

09-26-2005, 12:53 AM

Sacramento Nor-Cal girls, who dress up to go to Albertsons to buy bread.
It's the same here in Dallas too. I'm originally a midwestern girl, where it's perfectly normal to go to the store looking like you rolled out of bed, so when I came down here, it was a culture shock!
So sometimes, just so I don't get other women looking at me funny, I'll throw on a pair of heels instead of tennis shoes (I know, I'm conforming, somebody shoot me! :p ). It still doesn't change the fact that I'm a "Yankee" to these people, but it helps alittle and I don't feel as out of place, even though I'd rather be wearing my tennis shoes.

Aria

09-26-2005, 12:54 AM

Myrsilus

09-26-2005, 12:59 AM

It's so weird how you guys talk about how the clothes define the group. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's probably true where you live. But for me and the people I grew up with, clothing never depicted what group you were in. I flip back and forth from hoodies and jeans to skirts, heels and beaters from day to day depending on how I feel, but I don't look down on anyone because they're not wearing what *I* feel like that day.

Jiant Flying Panda: I think Northern California is a lot less...well, Newporty, than Socal. I agree with you, I knew a bunch of girls that dressed like that and I was one occasionally, but they were never mean or snobby.

General comment:
It's not a crime to look nice every once in a while.
Defining one by their attire has been a practice for many, many, many years. It just isn't as prevalent in some societies. America still carries this trait.

People have insulted me for dressing in slightly dressy clothes. I just like to try and look nice... Besides I like the way mildly dressy clothes looks. Of course wearing stuff like this usually puts me in some rich clique more often than not. The only rich person in my family is my dad, who is a dentist and does not live with us. We don't share in his wealth really...

Firefly

09-26-2005, 01:02 AM

It's so weird how you guys talk about how the clothes define the group. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's probably true where you live. But for me and the people I grew up with, clothing never depicted what group you were in. I flip back and forth from hoodies and jeans to skirts, heels and beaters from day to day depending on how I feel, but I don't look down on anyone because they're not wearing what *I* feel like that day.

In my High School, it was the group that defined the clothing. In [my] high school, Jocks wore the Abercrombie. Nerds wore dragonball Z button ups and army jeans. If you went from being a Nerd to Jock, I'd see them start buying Abercrombie, too.

General comment:
It's not a crime to look nice every once in a while.

No, it's not. But its not very nice to look down upon those of us who don't really care as much. Just because YOU wear nice clothes, Aria, doesn't mean your snobby, but, I dont know where you live...if you had the "general idea" of what a Sac Girl is like, you might understand what I mean. Its hard to describe a certain group without offending SOMEONE.

Jiant Flying Panda

09-26-2005, 01:03 AM

Jiant Flying Panda: I think Northern California is a lot less...well, Newporty, than Socal. I agree with you, I knew a bunch of girls that dressed like that and I was one occasionally, but they were never mean or snobby.

Thank you! :D.

I hate seeing most those girls beeing mis-judge. They're really great people for the most part..... The ones I know at least.

To be honest, their personality and the fact that they all look the same totally turns me off.

You see Rich, you're a GUY. Of course they're going to be nice to you. I'm a girl that would rather surf or skimboard at the beach than get a tan. I wear hoodies and sneakers, not heals and wifebeaters. They see me as being below them, and therefore, not worthy of their time.

I'm sorry to hear that Lin :(.

But whatever. Your not "below" them and that's all that matters.

But I guess your just running into the bad ones. Everyone one of those kind of girls that I know are pretty nice to both Guys and Girls regardless of well..... Anything.

But I agree with you in some sort of general level Lin. I guess I'm just lucky to know some of the cool ones.

Aria

09-26-2005, 01:11 AM

No, it's not. But its not very nice to look down upon those of us who don't really care as much. Just because YOU wear nice clothes, Aria, doesn't mean your snobby, but, I dont know where you live...if you had the "general idea" of what a Sac Girl is like, you might understand what I mean. Its hard to describe a certain group without offending SOMEONE.

Well, I kind of live like...15, maybe 17 miles away from Sac and I imagine that some Sacramento residence might wander outside the city lines and I have to say that I really don't encounter anyone who's snobby or anything. Sure, they might not be crazy-friendly, more like polite, but not condescending. *shrug* Perhaps it's all just a difference of perception.

Firefly

09-26-2005, 01:13 AM

Maybe I just live too close to Granite Bay...*shrugs*

Myrsilus

09-26-2005, 01:15 AM

Well, I kind of live like...15, maybe 17 miles away from Sac and I imagine that some Sacramento residence might wander outside the city lines and I have to say that I really don't encounter anyone who's snobby or anything. Sure, they might not be crazy-friendly, more like polite, but not condescending. *shrug* Perhaps it's all just a difference of perception.
It's also a difference in experience. Your experiences may not be the same as other people's experiences. I can relate with Lins because I've dealt with people like the one's she is describing. Many have attempted to be condescending to me. Nothing to gain out of it for them either... It's just spite.

Then of course I have met people like you are describing Aria. And I have no problem with them because even if they seem to fit in a certain clique, they are very friendly.

Aria

09-26-2005, 01:22 AM

It's also a difference in experience. Your experiences may not be the same as other people's experiences. I can relate with Lins because I've dealt with people like the one's she is describing. Many have attempted to be condescending to me. Nothing to gain out of it for them either... It's just spite.

Then of course I have met people like you are describing Aria. And I have no problem with them because even if they seem to fit in a certain clique, they are very friendly.

You're probably right. But also I think I just deal with it differently. Though I've definitely come upon the snobs, they're just not the majority. And when I do enounter them and they snub me, instead of getting insulted, I just don't give them the time of day because they would treat me the same way. Occasionally I'll bitch right back at them, but for the most part, I just smile and say "okay" and go on my merry way. And it all works out fine. I don't talk to them, they don't talk to me and no one ends up disappointed. :-P I know it sounds like I'm backing down the way I describe it...but if you actually saw it...it would be more like me giving them the shoulder as opposed to being like "okay okay, you win, leave me alone". And I have to say that having someone walk away from you in the middle of a bitching is a lot more infuriating than to have them just give up. :P

Myrsilus

09-26-2005, 01:40 AM

You're probably right. But also I think I just deal with it differently. Though I've definitely come upon the snobs, they're just not the majority. And when I do enounter them and they snub me, instead of getting insulted, I just don't give them the time of day because they would treat me the same way. Occasionally I'll bitch right back at them, but for the most part, I just smile and say "okay" and go on my merry way. And it all works out fine. I don't talk to them, they don't talk to me and no one ends up disappointed. :-P I know it sounds like I'm backing down the way I describe it...but if you actually saw it...it would be more like me giving them the shoulder as opposed to being like "okay okay, you win, leave me alone". And I have to say that having someone walk away from you in the middle of a bitching is a lot more infuriating than to have them just give up. :P
I do the same thing. I hardly ever have confrontations with anyone because more often than not I walk away. That's why no one really has any problem with me.

However, this does not discount the fact they are being snobbish and rude. It just means you are not acknowledging it. I applaud you, though.

Praetorian

09-26-2005, 06:44 AM

Woah. Bob is a megalomaniac, he's arrogant, elitist and an all-out shithead.

He's more like me than I am.

Aria

09-26-2005, 06:54 AM

who's bob?

Myrsilus

09-26-2005, 06:57 AM

Goths

They're all bitches
That's Bob.

hanacker

09-26-2005, 07:16 AM

Nerds!

http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/nerdtoon.jpg

Samwise

09-26-2005, 07:37 AM

Nerds!

http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/nerdtoon.jpg

Which is a great clique to hate on a board filled with anime fags filled to the gills with impotent rage.

Well, anime fags and suprisingly attractive women. Never saw that one coming I tell you.

also- don't leech.

Praetorian

09-26-2005, 07:56 AM

That reminds me, I haven't watched an anime in 6 weeks.

Blimey.

PopCulturePooka

09-26-2005, 08:05 AM

Hmmm...

Like the others have mentioned, Emo Kids and Not-Goths annoy me. For all the stated reasons really. Its funny how kids who say they are non-conformist try so hard to conform to a certain clique group. Teen goths especially annoy me. The ones who think dressing in black, using black nilpolish, writing bad poetry and having attitude issues = goth. Odds are those types would shit rocks when exposed to real goths. That or be disappointed.

Backpackers. People in high school aren't likely going to be exposed to this clique group. But fuck are they annoying. Wear the same things day in day out, sometimes smell like it. Usually have ridiculous perceptions of where-ever they are visiting. Are consistently broke but spend so much on booze (wait... so do I). Are more increasingly the people responsible for telemarketing you at night. Gah.

Hahahah Geeks, Fanboys, Japanophiles, Anime fans and Nerds. Oh yes. I hate these cliques. Not all of them. Fuck I have nerdish hobbies. But the ones that live and breathe thier whole lives in a pathetic state of nerd-dom, geekdom and fonboyishness piss me off. I HATE going to my local comic shop on Magic the Gathering day because of these people. Can't stand going to cons because of these losers. You like Anime? Are interested in Japan? Read Comics? Play D&D? In a counter strike guild? Fine. So fucking what?

It shouldn't be the be all and all of your life. You can have those hobbies and still be a normal person. You can still have a healthy and active interest in personal hygiene. You can still buy decent looking and dare I say fashionable clothes. Work on interaction and social skills. Make your hobbies a part of a normal well balanced life.

It annoys me when people say 'wah wah, everyone hates me because I read comics/collect action figures/watch anime/am good at the computer/am smart'. Call a WAAAAAAHHHHHHMMMMMMMMBulance then. I know plenty of people who have those hobbies. And are still insanely popular, well liked or sociable people. My School Captain was one of the schools most popular guys. Even in the real world he is a very popular guy. Girls lust after him. He collects Star Wars Figures. Open him up about it and he is exceddingly knowledgable about Star Wars toys. But it isn't a negative aspect of his life and people see beyond it because it doesn't consume his life. He doesn't let that affect his hygiene, his appearance, his lifestyle, his social graces. If geeks, fanboys, japanophiles etc tried that I would doubt they would be as picked on.

Jynx_lucky_j

09-26-2005, 10:13 AM

I always felt i was a left over. I was catagorised by most people at m school as either a nerd, geek, freak, goth once or twice, ect. While i would say i was some form of a socail outcast i was such that i didn't really hang out with the socail outcast groups. I just hung out with people that i just happened to get to know through extenuation circumstances (cause god knows i didn't seek people out). I don't think i had more that one freind form any one clique. I was friends with a geek, a gay, a jock, and in crown, a gansta-wanna-be, a goth, and that just off the top of my head. It was kinda cool cause i would hear on of they're friends say something like, "why the hell you hanging out with him? He's a <insert clique they dont like>." And my freinds would be like, "Hey man leave him alone. He's not a <insert clique>, he cool." And it really made me happy to know that my freinds were that good, be cause i've never had more freinds than i could count on one hand with room to spare at any given time.

It didn't help that i was anti socail, and i wore dark clothes not always black but always dark toned), I had a huge coat i wore all the time while i was at school (although it got people that liked to pick on me to leave me alone after culombine), wore glasses, was good at schoolwork (like read books and draw inclass istead of listening to the teacher, never study, and never do any homework, but still ace the test, good at schoolwork). I was anti socail to the point that if someone i didn't know (even really hot chicks) started trying to talk to me, i would be thinking "god damn it, why is this person talking to me? Why don't they just leave me alone" even though i would politely answer their questions. I did gain some repect sometimes by openly "rebeling" against the school authority. Telling teachers that they didn't know what they were talking about, telling them that i didn't need nor would i ever start to do homework, and telling them that the whole teaching system was jacked up. My perants hated going to the perant teacher confrances XD I got failed about a year and a half worth of credits for that kind of stuff. But when i turned 18 i transered myself to and alternitive highschool, that was work at your own pace on computers. And made up all the lost credits in my last year.

I've changed alot since my school days, and have come out of my shell alot. I'm still pretty anti socail. But i do find it alot easier to talk to people when i want/need to. I'm less rebelious...ussally. I dress much more normally, and so on..

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As for how i feel about cliques... Firt I've always lived by the belief that you do not hate anyone, you only hate their ways. If they behaved differantly you wouldn't have a problem with them. Philosophical sh*t aside, i hate the idea of cliques. People are people, and even the one that act superfisail and try to fit it with their clique are deeper than they try to make themselves look.

Generally anygroup that feels the need to demean others to justify themselfs earn themselfs a place on my blacklist. But i just gernerally ignore these people. The only power over you that they have is what you give them.

The only specail greivance i have is with modern anime fans. I liked anime long before it was cool to like anime. Bck when people laughed at you for watching "cartoons." Most the newer "anime fans" are only fans because its pop culture now. Go ahead and try asking them about something that isn't on cartoon network? Most of them won't have a clue, because cartoon network is about the extent of their knowlege, after all anything else isn't part of pop culture. I find it ironic that the same people that laughed at me for watching anime, now think that Dragon Ball GT and Inuyasha are the greatest thing ever. Bah!

By the way....what exactly is an emo? I think this may have been a bit after my highschool time...now i feel old :(

InsertWapNameHere

09-26-2005, 08:24 PM

You'll never meet a stereotypical _____ that isn't a poser. Almost all "cliques" have been morphed into something they're not by this point(except some of the newer ones, which are bad enough and just ripped off of an earlier one anyway), so I don't bother hating any of them, just the idiots that don't bother knowing what they're trying to be, or trying to classify someone as.

I'm not really apart of any sub-cultures or cliques or any thing of the sort and I've been called: A rocker, a metalhead, a goth, a punk, and a rivet(granted, that one was deserved based on my musical taste ;x).

As God Module put it "all the lies that I'll never understand make me hate what you think I am"

Loc

09-26-2005, 08:55 PM

Hmm this is weird, me and my friends are friendly with everyone we like, we've made it pretty clear to the assholes (people who think they're better than everyone else) that we don't like them. At all.

Our college must be weird, these assholes were the cool people in college to start with (like a month) but I dunno, I guess the rest of the college teamed up against em and now they get laughed at a lot now.

Everyone else is really friendly to each other there though, everyone knows you, it's a nice place :D
Some guy gives everyone he vaguely knows high-fives like all the time XD He's pretty funny...then there's Paul who grabs you....ok enough ;x

Fallen Angel

09-26-2005, 09:08 PM

Go ahead and try asking them about something that isn't on cartoon network? Most of them won't have a clue, because cartoon network is about the extent of their knowlege, after all anything else isn't part of pop culture. I find it ironic that the same people that laughed at me for watching anime, now think that Dragon Ball GT and Inuyasha are the greatest thing ever. Bah!(

At my school people are not really into animes but the stupid thing is when they learn you're watching animes and reading mangas. Everytime they will ask you "You mean you're a Dragon Ball Fan???"... like that was the only anime/manga on earth. (that bothers me a lot since I hate Dragon Ball... anyway)

I can understand how you were before. I'm not usually very social, even on the net (... wich explains that I'm not posting a lot here). When people at my school knows me it's because I'm the girl always being caught reading/drawing in class. I'm not talking to people a lot either. Sadly I don't have friends from a lot of "groups".

Stephy

09-26-2005, 09:09 PM

...then there's Paul who grabs you....ok enough ;x

Huh? What was that? :p

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I like all cliques. Let people be who ever they want to, I guess. I don't dislike any really.

Jynx_lucky_j

09-26-2005, 11:19 PM

I can understand how you were before. I'm not usually very social, even on the net (... wich explains that I'm not posting a lot here). When people at my school knows me it's because I'm the girl always being caught reading/drawing in class. I'm not talking to people a lot either. Sadly I don't have friends from a lot of "groups".

Personally I've always found it easier to talk over the internet. And it is easy to talk to people i get to know. If you talk to my freind they would tell you that i'm not shy at all. Though everyone else wuld tell you that i was terribly shy, and both sides would be right.

I had this one teacher that would take away my books in class every time he caught me reading. So what i did was i started finding books that the libray had multiple copies of. When the teacher would take my book i would bring out another copy and pick up where i left off, after about a week the teacher gave up. I've only got talk to about drawing in class once in my life. That was in Air Force Tech School, and it was actually wone of the higher ranking students that talked to me about it. So i asked the teacher if he cared if i drew in class, and he said that as long as i keep passing my test he didn't care what i did. So i continued my drawing.

And i never set out to make any freinds...ever. All my freinds approched me instead. I've always said "I don't make freinds, friends make me." I think they were just trying to be nice at first, and it just happened that we hit it off. There have been many other people that try to be freindly with me, that never went anywhere.

I'm still pretty shy at first, and i tend to keep to myself. But I can now pretend like im not shy. If someone start talking to me, I can BS with them just as well as anyone else. Even if on the inside i wish they would just let me be. Of course if everyone did just leave me alone like i wanted then i would never of had any friends, would I?

NotQuiteNecessary

09-27-2005, 12:29 AM

Aria

09-27-2005, 12:59 AM

I'm still pretty shy at first, and i tend to keep to myself. But I can now pretend like im not shy. If someone start talking to me, I can BS with them just as well as anyone else. Even if on the inside i wish they would just let me be. Of course if everyone did just leave me alone like i wanted then i would never of had any friends, would I?

Haha. Yeah, before I left for university, I worked as a receptionist at a Kumon Learning Center for 4 years. And the moms would just come in and like...talk to me. And during my freshmen year I definitely wasn't very social. But having that job definitely taught me to socialize whether I wanted to or not. Moms just loooove talking about their kids and of course they're the LAST thing I ever wanted to talk about since 70% of them are just little brats. But yeah, now I'm good at talking to people when they wanna talk, even if I don't. :-P

Aria

09-27-2005, 01:03 AM

I hate cliques, period. Hate them, hate them. You should find friends. People on your level, but not who share all the same interests(though sharing some is nice). I dispise cliques because whenever you're with them it's like you're with the same person in a different skin. Friends should agree and yet challenge each other. Having a friend exactly like you is boring.

Well, I think it'd be kind of neat to have a friend exactly like me. You say that the people in cliques are all the same, but look how close they are to each other. Sadly, even when they exclude you, you can see from a 3rd person point of view how "on the same page" they are.

I've never really found anyone exactly like me, but I imagine it'd be nice to have someone who is so in tune with me (since they're so like me) that we just have a connection like no one else. But I might be wrong. Maybe one gets tired of a friend who's exactly like them, but I could definitely appreciate the intimacy of that kind of friendship.

Sk8More

09-27-2005, 01:04 AM

Fallen Angel

09-27-2005, 01:32 AM

Personally I've always found it easier to talk over the internet. And it is easy to talk to people i get to know. If you talk to my freind they would tell you that i'm not shy at all. Though everyone else wuld tell you that i was terribly shy, and both sides would be right.

I had this one teacher that would take away my books in class every time he caught me reading. So what i did was i started finding books that the libray had multiple copies of. When the teacher would take my book i would bring out another copy and pick up where i left off, after about a week the teacher gave up. I've only got talk to about drawing in class once in my life. That was in Air Force Tech School, and it was actually wone of the higher ranking students that talked to me about it. So i asked the teacher if he cared if i drew in class, and he said that as long as i keep passing my test he didn't care what i did. So i continued my drawing.

And i never set out to make any freinds...ever. All my freinds approched me instead. I've always said "I don't make freinds, friends make me." I think they were just trying to be nice at first, and it just happened that we hit it off. There have been many other people that try to be freindly with me, that never went anywhere.

I'm still pretty shy at first, and i tend to keep to myself. But I can now pretend like im not shy. If someone start talking to me, I can BS with them just as well as anyone else. Even if on the inside i wish they would just let me be. Of course if everyone did just leave me alone like i wanted then i would never of had any friends, would I?

Well I usually have less problems talking with people on internet when I'm chatting, but when I'm on a forum, talking with people I know, or on a forum like this when I'm trying to take part to a - relatively - serious discussion, wich included that I give my opinion and listen to other's opinions, I'm a lil shy... (I don't have a lot of self-confidence ^^; so most of the time I won't say a word 'cause I don't think people are interrested..)
I didn't made friends too... one day 2 girls just came talk to me (I knew one a little, from my other school) and we slow made friends... they are sometimes saying that I have 2 "personnalities", one in class, and one with my friends, wich are totally different.. anyway @_@;; I'm ranting too much >_>;;;;;

(the multiple books trick is awesome XD I should try it one day!)

p1c4z0

09-27-2005, 04:09 AM

I hate emo kids.

Shadowknight

09-27-2005, 12:10 PM

they are sometimes saying that I have 2 "personnalities", one in class, and one with my friends, wich are totally different.. )
Little by little, you're allowing yourself to become... Tyler Durden.

Snake eyeS

09-27-2005, 03:56 PM

my 2 cents.

I hate anime cliques, people that are not from japan but seeing some anime and then are totally in love with japan.. and when confronted about their stupid habit, they flock together and form a band of geeks that gank you with flames.

now lets see who is in this flock.

And what annoys me the most, even if you watch anime.. what makes you want to visit japan or study their language? cause it would be so friggin CUTE to say japanese one liners so you can impress people with your skillZzZZzzz? i had a girl in my class last year.. she kind of knew how to draw anime... made her totally bezerk and she is now taking japanese lessons to become a succesful anime drawer in japan(she isnt nearly as good as she think she is) another gajin(sp) that think he/she will be the BOMB when he/she goes to japan.

ugh.. just had to get that out of my system, seeing the powerpuff thread made me want to vent a little, thank you for your time.

Daishikaze

09-27-2005, 04:05 PM

Gods, I can only imagine whats going on in the PPG thread right now. Must.....resist.....urge....to.....look at thread.............Ah shit now I gotta look, I'm too curious

Samwise

09-27-2005, 04:35 PM

Yaoi fangirls.

I dated one, they're all fucking insane.

Daishikaze

09-27-2005, 04:39 PM

I certainly hate the current Fandom, so you won't hear me complaining when you rip into them.

Shii

09-27-2005, 04:49 PM

People who try to be gangsters and talk in ebonics. I can never understand what they are saying and they always seem to hate me for some reason. Even if I am nice to them, they always find out a way to make fun of me or talk about how "stupid" I am.

I also hate the preppy girls who hate me because they are "prettier" in some sort of way. Or because I act different or I don't wear the same brand of clothing that they do. Whenever I speak to them they just stare at me as if I have lobsters crawling out of my nostrils.

Yeeep. Preps and gangsters. I despise them ONLY because they despise me.

The Divine Comedy

09-27-2005, 08:07 PM

I had this one teacher that would take away my books in class every time he caught me reading. So what i did was i started finding books that the libray had multiple copies of. When the teacher would take my book i would bring out another copy and pick up where i left off, after about a week the teacher gave up.

So that happens to others, too? My math teacher this year is like that. And he's labeled me an "attitude problem" because of it. And is therefore harder on me (and bitchier to me) than the rest of the class put together. :( The multiple book trick is awesome! :D I want to try it!

I can understand how you were before. I'm not usually very social, even on the net (... wich explains that I'm not posting a lot here). When people at my school knows me it's because I'm the girl always being caught reading/drawing in class. I'm not talking to people a lot either. Sadly I don't have friends from a lot of "groups".

TWIN! Sorry. But I kind of have the same problems. Self-confidence issues, shyness, etc. But I've learned to BS my way through it. Mostly. I still have problems going up to people and making friends with them. Or just talking to them. I'm always afraid of being shot down. My mild anti-social-ness is more fear than desire to be. :(

I really dislike cliques just in general. They separate people. Interesting people that I would have otherwise talked to and tried to get to know are perfectly happy with their own little group and friend circle. It's intimidating. Especially to people without a specific "group" (like me). So I tend to keep quiet a lot and not talk to many people that I don't know. Which is why that hot guy in my art class probably doesn't even know my name. Ah well. I keep up hope that it'll be at least slightly different outside of high school.

rush

09-27-2005, 08:12 PM

Anime/Japan fangirls.

I dated one, they're all fucking insane.

Changed slightly.

Praetorian

09-27-2005, 08:48 PM

Is the Bavarian Illuminati a clique? They kind of didn't want me to join, afraid I'd take them over I guess.

I'll rule the world another way.

LJustus

09-27-2005, 09:12 PM

Dutchies. Can't stand the Dutchies.

*Looks at Praetorian. Shakes fist*

PopCulturePooka

09-27-2005, 09:17 PM

Dutchies. Can't stand the Dutchies.

*Looks at Praetorian. Shakes fist*
I covered them with 'backpackers'.

Fallen Angel

09-27-2005, 09:52 PM

TWIN! Sorry. But I kind of have the same problems. Self-confidence issues, shyness, etc. But I've learned to BS my way through it. Mostly. I still have problems going up to people and making friends with them. Or just talking to them. I'm always afraid of being shot down. My mild anti-social-ness is more fear than desire to be. :(

Sorry? why? ^^;; BS?? *clueless*

Cool now I have a twin XD

I really dislike cliques just in general. They separate people. Interesting people that I would have otherwise talked to and tried to get to know are perfectly happy with their own little group and friend circle. It's intimidating. Especially to people without a specific "group" (like me). So I tend to keep quiet a lot and not talk to many people that I don't know. Which is why that hot guy in my art class probably doesn't even know my name. Ah well. I keep up hope that it'll be at least slightly different outside of high school.

That's so true o_o;

The Divine Comedy

09-27-2005, 09:59 PM

Sorry? why? ^^;; BS?? *clueless*

Cool now I have a twin XD

Twin Power! :D

Well, BS as in pretending not to be nervous. And harnassing my small amount of courage. *cracks whip* Go, courage, go! Sorry. Am highly caffeinated. Done.

Aria

09-27-2005, 10:42 PM

I really dislike cliques just in general. They separate people. Interesting people that I would have otherwise talked to and tried to get to know are perfectly happy with their own little group and friend circle. It's intimidating. Especially to people without a specific "group" (like me). So I tend to keep quiet a lot and not talk to many people that I don't know. Which is why that hot guy in my art class probably doesn't even know my name. Ah well. I keep up hope that it'll be at least slightly different outside of high school.

Well since you're so shy, would you really otherwise confront people on your own? Cliques, I say, are inevitable and somehow, whether or not they existed or not, I think that the world wouldn't be much different even if we didn't have them. If you pour oil into water, it'll seperate at first but the oil will merge with itself to form bubbles within the water. And everytime you break up the bubbles, they do eventually reform. So I think that using cliques as an excuse not do something...well...exactly that, an excuse. If that hot guy from art class was sitting by himself on a bench, would you truly sit by him and start a conversation with him?

And I can say that it's different, but not different outside of highschool. At university, there aren't any cliques persay, but then your lecture halls are so huge that you don't really talk to anyone anyways. And during the smaller classes, you have to be paying attention during class and the professors definitely don't give you "socializing time".

The Divine Comedy

09-27-2005, 11:34 PM

So I think that using cliques as an excuse not do something...well...exactly that, an excuse. If that hot guy from art class was sitting by himself on a bench, would you truly sit by him and start a conversation with him?

To be honest, I probably wouldn't. I wouldn't want to annoy/embarass/etc. him (even though he seems really nice). But if I saw him and didn't know him at all (as in, new student or something of the sort) and he was sitting on a bench alone, maybe. I'm not really shy in the sense of saying hi to random people as a problem. It's more the... expectations, I suppose, that are already there. I have a persona in school of a quiet, studious bookworm. Outside of school, my persona is different. It's hard to really go up to a person and start an interesting conversation when the person knows me as the studious one.

Then again, I do have a tendency to make excuses for myself, so it could just be that I am a cowardly little person and don't want to admit it to myself. But, as that is going a bit too far into psycology for my tastes, I'll stop there.

And I can say that it's different, but not different outside of highschool. At university, there aren't any cliques persay, but then your lecture halls are so huge that you don't really talk to anyone anyways. And during the smaller classes, you have to be paying attention during class and the professors definitely don't give you "socializing time".

Well, I was talking more about just socializing in general rather than just in lecture halls, but thanks for the info anyway. :)

Fallen Angel

09-28-2005, 12:00 AM

Twin Power! :D

Well, BS as in pretending not to be nervous. And harnassing my small amount of courage. *cracks whip* Go, courage, go! Sorry. Am highly caffeinated. Done.

Thanks for the explanation ^_^

Don't apologize, you're funny :p

Aria

09-28-2005, 12:36 AM

Well, I was talking more about just socializing in general rather than just in lecture halls, but thanks for the info anyway. :)

Well, hehe, to be honest? After you move out of the dorms (for me, after freshman year), it's difficult to socialize without just walking up to random people. Cuz like...socializing with your neighbors like you did in the dorms when you're living in an apartment complex is a little weird. I mean, you could do it, but it could turn weird. So when you hit college, make your friends while you're in the dorms! It's easiest there!

h2orowe

09-28-2005, 01:36 AM

I hate emos. I get along with most, but I hate the whole style.
I hate metal heads, that just get drunk and act tough.
I hate goths, they're just ridicolous looking; plus they pretend to be cool for stupid shit.
I hate gangstas... they bug the shit out of me, ask one if he can fight, if he's mexican, he goes for the face, if he's "AZN" he kicks you in the nuts or takes a weapon out, and if he's white he has his steel toe nazi boots. (I don't know much about black gangs cuz there are none here.)
I hate wanna be gangstas, or just people who try to act "hard". They just cause problems for themselves and others. "Hey fool, I was suspended for two days, aye. I socked this guy and we got into a fight. I kicked his ass eee" ""Why'd you fight, Julio?"
"Cuz, he was looking at me funny." O.O what a stupd reason to fight.
I hate the jocks.
I hate the little slutty girls that hang out together.... forgot the term exactly :\
I hate the stupid bitches who act higher than everyone.... oh my god, this stupidi like red head bitch in English class, one time she was talking, and I generally stare off in class and sometimes I stare off into some girls like chest or something, but not on purpose, I'm spacing out and I don't even think about it, but than she sees me so I turn my head, and that bitch is talking and when I turn my head "Turn your ass around. Pfft, I wasn't talking to you!"
I hate the kids who body blow.
I hate punkers who just ditch all the time.
I hate the Star Wars nerds.
I hate the other general American culture nerds.
I hate the Japanese nerds..... extremely.... here's an example of mine from Vocal Ensemble (Advanced Choir) "Ok, this band here is Asian Kung-fu Generation, and this one here is the Pillows. I like listening to Japanese music and I plan on moving there and teaching English" than all of a sudden little Japanophile ""WOO GO JAPAN!"" ".......... This is a picture of Head Automatica, one of my favorite bands...... ...... ........................... ........................................ ................. . ..............."
and than OH MY GOD, the one before actually seems like she's a nice person, and I've been talking to her sort of, cuz I'm supposed to help with Japanese club (they're desperate for people, it's the poorest club in school.... I asked if I can help, and BAM! She's like YOU CAN BE HISTORIAN [Woo Japan girl] and her face lights up, and than she tells the man... I mean girl who runs it.... HES GONNA BE THE HISTORIAN!.... OMGZ ARE YOU SERIOUS! His...err...her face lights up, too. Ok, the reason I wrote OH MY GOD before was because...... -.- this girl is also in Vocal Ensemble along with me, and Woo Japan girl. She always ALWAYS after every Vocal Ensemble she yells to Woo Japan girl "OMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!" because I guess in Japanese club you get Japanese names (Guess what I'll be ? My name is Joey, and I'll make mine Joii!) but she says it so annoyingly high pitched and so god damn wrong.... she says Chan like JACKIE CHAN and like she says Oma so horibly.... OWMAY! ....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I'm friends with her brother, and I jokingly said I'm gonna punch her in the face, and he said.... thank god.... and I was like, I can't believe living with her.

Ok, well my group, we're just some kids who met and got along, so we sort of formed a group :\, no real stereotypes going on. We're the other kids, but I like my group alot, but most of us or maybe all listen to rock music, but we don't talk about music much, unless this one girl brings her guitar :D than I get to show off!

Anyway, I hate alot of groups, but actually have alot of friends from pretty much each of them :\ I just hate how they act.

keitaidensha

09-28-2005, 02:01 AM

i hate those people who go on the internet and whine about other people.

god damn do they piss me off.

EDIT@LJustus: i also hate people who play magic.

h2orowe

09-28-2005, 02:20 AM

Wow, XD you hate us all, eh?
Hahahaha, oh and you quiet people.... you need to confront people, it doesn't matter if they're in a group, if they seem friendly they'll be happy to talk to you. I like trying to talk to quiet people, but if they ever talked to me that'd be cool. :D

eyez0nme

09-28-2005, 03:00 AM

Aria

09-28-2005, 04:54 AM

I hate the Star Wars nerds.

Hey hey, ain't nothin' wrong with Star Wars. From a zoologist's standpoint, they are very creative and suprisingly correct (in terms of an environment's influence on a creature) in those movies.

l337m45t3r

09-28-2005, 06:22 AM

Hey hey, ain't nothin' wrong with Star Wars. From a zoologist's standpoint, they are very creative and suprisingly correct (in terms of an environment's influence on a creature) in those movies.

That and Lightsabres are cool.

Fallen Angel

09-28-2005, 09:13 PM

What's the always fresh one?

I was sure that I had explained about the "Always Fresh"! o_O must have forgot......... again..... =_=;;

Well that's a nickname I found for guys always having fun of people. Seems like they think everyone except themselves and a few ones are "inferiors". They'll call you names and piss you off just for fun... and they like/love talking about girls. "So, did she gave you a blowjob?" "Wooo check this babe over there... she have big boobs!" and so on... Most of them are morons, very immature, often talking about (cute) girls like objects.

( Sorry if my explanation is weird... it's hard for me to translate =/ )

more cheerios

09-28-2005, 10:00 PM

I hate people who hate things.
Oh ho, contradiction!

I mean, just because you like classical and jazz doesn't mean that everything else sucks and is a failure in comparison.
Just because you are trying to be Blondie and make some statement (this is in reference to a music video I saw on TV earlier), doesn't mean that Britney Spear's music sucks.

Sure, I don't particularly like Britney Spears' music, but I'm not going to bash her musical ability. It's just different and carbon-copied, not bad. I mean, billions of people adore her. That's kind of hard to do if your music isn't catchy in the least bit. Despite what the "conservatory" crowd may think, it takes some ability to write pop music. Whether it's repetetive and filled with open chords is besides the point. Not everyone can write lyrics or hum a tune on key.

Point is, just because you don't particularly like something, doesn't make it bad.

Fallen Angel

09-28-2005, 11:08 PM

I hate people who hate things.
Oh ho, contradiction!

I mean, just because you like classical and jazz doesn't mean that everything else sucks and is a failure in comparison.
Just because you are trying to be Blondie and make some statement (this is in reference to a music video I saw on TV earlier), doesn't mean that Britney Spear's music sucks.

Sure, I don't particularly like Britney Spears' music, but I'm not going to bash her musical ability. It's just different and carbon-copied, not bad. I mean, billions of people adore her. That's kind of hard to do if your music isn't catchy in the least bit. Despite what the "conservatory" croud may think, it takes some ability to write pop music. Whether it's repetetive and filled with open chords is besides the point. Not everyone can write lyrics or hum a tune on key.

Point is, just because you don't particularly like something, doesn't make it bad.

True. Like when someone hear a music he doesn't like. First think he'll say is something like "it's horrible". It's not horrible. You don't like it. That's not the same T_T;

Kusoyaro

09-29-2005, 06:55 AM

Lol, a clique is not something to be abhorred. It is a neccesary part of human social interactions. Everyone in the world wants to belong to something or someone, and this is a way to do it. Cliques are actually a godsend. Imagine if you will a society without them. No social circles, no group of friends who talk and act and dress a specific way. The only way such a place could exist is if the way we are, our very psyche and its ability to cogitate (and therefore the society we live in) was different, an insular entity. in which case humanity would have died off a long time ago. A case can be made about this.
Each clique is sort of like a miniaturized version of Real Life. Skaters are rebels, the In-crowds folks are the famous folk, the gekks and nerds are the social outcasts, and so forth. Of course, their is a phaseshift in the sense that the transitions from school to Life generally sees one type of person transfer or overlap into another.
ANyway, cliques are cool. I've been fortunate in my illustrious hs life to experience most of them, some at the same time. Except emo. "I hate my parents, school sucks, i wish i were someone else..." Go fuck a rusty nail.

God Hates You

09-30-2005, 01:47 AM

You shouldn't hate a group altogether, sure you can hate some "emo" or some "goth" person. But hating the whole group is completely bullshit.

Anyways, maybe you like to differ but then again I hang with different people from different kinds of "clique". From potheads to jocks to loners. I mean I can give less of a shit about a "clique", after it is the person who matters right?

more cheerios

09-30-2005, 02:07 AM

Well, technically, hating a group of people on the account of a few others is pretty much like racism.

God Hates You

09-30-2005, 02:09 AM

Yup.

Cheers.

Myrsilus

09-30-2005, 03:24 AM

Kusoyaro

09-30-2005, 04:26 AM

Thanks, I didn't have a comp for the longest time and then I had some shit to do. You won't believe how many wankers just died. God, i love being a turtle.
Yea, I have to agree on the fact that many people not only subcribe to "cliques" (which is healthy) but entirely define themselves by it. I have met a few people whose entire lives are dictated by the limits and confines to which the stereotype to which they adhere must not traverse. While I know plenty (2) of "jocks" who workout to Mozart and Bach, respectively, their peers urge them to "quit being so faggoty" and push on them bands like Good Charlotte and the like (whose primary fanbase is the 14-16 year old WASP...lol, I read it on a music survey someplace). Others, such as the "geek" squad, adopt mannerisms and stick by them, and are expected to retain vast quantities of totally useless information (unless your a graphics-card salesman), and those that aren't are generally avoided as not being up to their level. Why the fuck am I typing like this? Must be the peanuts. *Penis. w/e. ANyways, i think that a factor is the alienation of many children by the authorities that are supposed to be watching out for them. Like, the teachers do't really give a flying ratfuck what hapens to most of their charges, and the parents at large at at fault for not doing their jobs. My friend killed himself 3 years ago, and a few months later his parents (father) accused me and his friends of driving him to this, or something. I mean, wtf, if he did his fucking job, he wouldn't have killd himself. he would have talked to his folks, got the problem resolved. Talking to your folks HELPS, really, unless you have the most fucked up parents in the owlrd (and you don't, trust me, come on...trust me). Most adolescents, due to the "changes" (grampa speak) and whatnot, they retreat inwards. Everyone goes through this. We tell our friends, whom we feel more attachment to than family (as we seek out people like us, in the same situation, that is), and remain insular. If factors shaping the person's life have forced them to be
fuck this im bored.

Myrsilus

09-30-2005, 05:48 AM

Hmm... Well it is good to have you back on the boards.

And you've pretty much summed up a lot of problems arising from the formations of cliques. Some people tend to define themselves soley upon what clique they fall under and strive to be the ultimate of that clique. Many have tried to assimilate me into various cliques, but I never felt I needed to define myself in a group. But that is because I feel I had some pretty strong parenting (Strict and loving). Many do not have that luxury and will flock to a group for identity and, perhaps, safety.

I am noticing that parenting is becoming very laxed when compared to other generations I am used to hearing about. Many parents don't care what their children are exposed to and will tend to feel better having them out of the house. I've told the story before of an elementary student swearing beside me to his peers... And I mean swearing like a pissed off rapper, with the ebonics and all. It really disgusted me that a child this young was taking to such horribly leud and graphic phrases. And I would imagine the parents are doing nothing to stop this atrocious behavior.

The most focus on neglected children turning to cliques is probably seen on gangs. You know... the Bloods, Crips, what-have-you... Prime examples all over the world with these gangs.

Yeah the gang comparison is a bit extreme, but the nature is very much the same. Cliques aren't generally a problem until the fundamental philosophies of these cliques begin to enslave the subject. There is nothing wrong with working out while listening to the works of Bach or Mozart, but many would shun this idea because their clique does not enjoy the beauty of classical music.

Don't worry Kusoyaro, I'm rambling as well.

A money

09-30-2005, 09:56 PM

HA! no one here understands emo. I like it that way. Good. You know who i hate? people who hate emo's. you've got something seriously wrong with you if you think youve never had problems. Just because you cant understand where someone is coming from, doesnt mean you have to bash them over the internet. Sure, i dislike the way emo's dress. who doesnt. they gggggay. But i'm empathetic towards them. i dont know. And this coming from me, someone who listens to severed savior, dying fetus, children of bodom, and napalm death.

InsertWapNameHere

10-01-2005, 12:27 AM

:words:

http://www.somethingdirectory.com/main_emo.htm

all there is to understanding emo.

PopCulturePooka

10-01-2005, 08:50 AM

One thing that REALLY annoys me about goths, emos, punks etc is a hypocrisy that they display.

Many from these groups are always complaining about how nobody understands them, how people judge them by how they dress etc.

'Because I wear black and make up no-one takes me seriously. Woe is me.'

And yet many of these same people will gladly judge OTHERS by their appearance. Will slag someone for dressing in a polo-shirt/chinos. Or for wearing a suit. Odds are they very much won't even bother to associate with someone who chooses to wear say... designer labels.

Its this weird hypocrisy that struck me and makes me dislike many of these cliques.

QreepyBORIS

10-02-2005, 04:24 AM

Well, I don't exactly hate any one group the way most people do. For example, a lot of people hate goths and emos. I don't necessairly--I only hate the ones who are waaaaay too extreme about it, and let their "style" govern their lives and actions.

Also, I hate jocky assholes. I'd normally omit the word "jocky" from there, since I hate all assholes (no shit?), but these guys are even worse than usual. More assholish than a regular asshole. I don't know. I don't like them. =/

Collapse

10-02-2005, 08:30 AM

Cool people and preppies. No, shut up. Really. And people who like mush-mush bullshit. Cut to the cheese.

To me, bad experiences and people getting batshit over nothing. Calm the fuck down, bitchtits. I don't want to hear your moaning and your intense masturbation sessions.

But yeah, my reasons are as stated.

Treayn

10-02-2005, 03:08 PM

GGGGGGGGGGGGG-Unit

I think you get the point.

What's worse,
1) Wiggers
or
2) Jiggers (From Az)

PoorlyConstructedAlias

10-04-2005, 12:30 PM

I find people in general comprise one giant clique I could do without.

Scott

10-04-2005, 02:32 PM

clique-haters.

Aria

10-04-2005, 09:39 PM

GGGGGGGGGGGGG-Unit

I think you get the point.

What's worse,
1) Wiggers
or
2) Jiggers (From Az)

For some reason, I find Wiggers a lot more ridiculous looking/acting than "jiggers". I don't even know why.

Yoonafkenenen

10-04-2005, 10:04 PM

I hate people that slap you and run away, giggling. I could do without those fuckers.

Aria

10-05-2005, 12:31 AM

I hate people that slap you and run away, giggling. I could do without those fuckers.
...Who the hell does that...? Cuz that's just a little retarded....

PopCulturePooka

10-05-2005, 12:41 PM

...Who the hell does that...? Cuz that's just a little retarded....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_slap

Daisuke

10-05-2005, 05:37 PM

I noticed that noone has anything bad to say about the metalheads... thank you ;)

I always knew the metalhead clique was teh win!

* metalhead for life *

Daishikaze

10-05-2005, 05:39 PM

Sadly someone did, I believe it was H2o who said we were a bunch of drunks who act tough all the time

Daisuke

10-05-2005, 05:44 PM

I hate metal heads, that just get drunk and act tough.

No no no... they said they hate metal heads that "just get drunk and act tough.". They didn't say ALL metal heads like they did for other cliques.

We never had much patience for that type of metalhead either. They usually got dumpstered.

;)

Lee

10-06-2005, 01:10 AM

It's quite interesting to read about all these stereotypes and cliques; I really can't say I've paid much attention to these people in High School. I mean, every school has the usual Nerds, Regulars, and the Sports players, but other then that, there was nothing really distinguishable between groups; moreso I just saw them as a bunch of friends hanging out together.

Maybe I'm just too aptathetic to this sort of thing, and I could really care less about the people sorrounding me unless they are directly involved with me; know me, or are in a confrontation with me. That's my view on things. In general, I can just say that I dislike certain things that people do, which pretty much doesn't partain to a certain cliques or groups.

h2orowe

10-06-2005, 03:30 AM

Hey! I think I did, or at least meant to put at the end of my post, that I made a week or two ago, that I don't hate all the people from these groups.... just the stereotypes... :\

And yes, I do not like metal heads who are like "OMFG!!!oneone! Ozzy are teh l337 lez go drink beer"

I also hate people who say the only good music is classic rock :\ there's plenty of awesome new music, you just have to search for it.

Speciou5

10-06-2005, 07:51 PM

I hate the clique that hates people just because of what they assume they act like and categorize everyone into stereotypes. And the clique that judges people before they even get to know them. They just drive me nuts!

Matadon

10-08-2005, 07:16 PM

I hate the clique that hates the clique that hates people just because of what they assume they act like and categorize everyone into stereotypes.

Citizen

10-08-2005, 07:19 PM

Soccer moms. I can't even comprehend how much joy seeing all of them die off would bring me.

IcePrincess

11-07-2005, 07:30 AM

My 2 cents-

The clique is despise are the cheerleaders/preps,they get on my nerves..They talk night and day of "The Perfect Shade of Lipgloss" or "That Boy." Of course, some are alright,but I'm talking of the majority and I'm speaking AS a cheerleader. Sometimes, I feel like quitting and I would if I hadn't liked cheering. They think they're superior to everyone just because they are pretty, rich..etc; And when I hang out with someone outside from the cheerleaders they are like, "No way, he's a GOTH" or things like that..

The other kinds of people I hate are the total judgemental types who call you a nerd if you get Straight A's, Prep if you wear designer labels, Goth if you wear black.. And there was once when I gave my name for some Debate, this girl gave me a strange look and said," What Would you know about the topic? Your a CHEERLEADER,"

The Unfairness!

fo0d

11-07-2005, 09:09 AM

I really hate the rich-kids who think they are all-that, driving 1-hand those sports car (that their parents bought), windows down with music booming. They think they are cooler than everyone else.

I also really hate those wannabe gangsters. They dress up gangster style, loitering about as a group where there are plenty of people. They walk so strange, thinking they show superiority, and think they are so tough picking on whoever just pisses them off for w/e reason.

EDIT: btw, reading throught these forums, you guys love to use the word "emo". What does that mean exactly. It seems like it is used in almost every occasion, to the extent that i have difficutly discerning what it really means.

Jancarius

11-08-2005, 08:06 PM

I despise (there's a list here): Athletes Who Are Too Dumb Too Be Anything Else, People Who Are In College Who Think It Is Like High School, and People Who Think Their Life Sucks When It Really Doesn't. Neurotic bastards...

Travis

11-08-2005, 08:12 PM

Emo kids. I want to bitchslap each and every one of them, but I'll settle for hoping that they hit a major artery.

Snake eyeS

11-08-2005, 10:38 PM

I hate people who just cannot say.. i just dont give a fuck... because that is the best filosofy in this world id say... I JUST DONT GIVE A FUCK

Sangokyu

11-08-2005, 11:38 PM

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned wannabe gangstas up to this point. Goddamnit these people annoy me. Wear some real clothes that don't have the crotch of your pants hanging an inch off the ground, listen to some real goddamn music, and speak normal English! Sometimes I want to club some of these people over the head with a wrench...
I wholehartily agree

I seriously hate Japanese wannabees. I love anime, manga, Japan, all that good stuff... but these people bring it to a whole new level. Wearing Cosplay some days, the others, wearing shirts with kanji on it. Using a Japanese-style fan. Writing their names in japanese. Making chibi faces everywhere with some Japanese saying right next to it. Claimes to know everything about anime that has ever happened. It just annoys me!

synergy

11-09-2005, 12:34 AM

I wholehartily agree

I seriously hate Japanese wannabees. I love anime, manga, Japan, all that good stuff... but these people bring it to a whole new level. Wearing Cosplay some days, the others, wearing shirts with kanji on it. Using a Japanese-style fan. Writing their names in japanese. Making chibi faces everywhere with some Japanese saying right next to it. Claimes to know everything about anime that has ever happened. It just annoys me!

Yea.. we call those type of people Wapanese.

Kanzetsu

11-09-2005, 12:43 AM

Seriously...I hate them all, like someone said earlier, most people who live by these are people who have no idea who they are or try to figure out their own opinions on whatever...

Seriously, I dont mind the occasional wigger who likes rap and might wear some popular crap gear.
I dont even mind the occasional cosplay fanatic who may even wear some anime crazed gear every day and shit, I see them as unique in a crazy way, seriously, as long as they dont preach it and piss everyone off with it, and laydown their crap as gods gift to man.
My best friend border lines on this when he's in the right (wrong?) frame of mind, he's your usual wigger obsessed guy who wears all the gear, but he's pretty open minded, likes anime, even the ecchi stuff to a certain degree, he can also breach his wigger walls into techno and such things if he's in the mood, not to mention he's fairly geeky in terms of playing PC games and grew up playing console RPG's constantly, inlcuding the FF's lol, but dont get me wrong, he doesnt shut up about rap/hiphop/whatever

"Man who's your favourite rapper?"
"I'm not keen on rap generally"
"eerr, better than your cartoon shit"
Is an example ignorant conversation I was used to in high school.

I guess I just hate closed minded people, which is what 99% of these peer sheep are.

Bobbybirdtree

11-09-2005, 01:46 AM

I love cliques. They give me more people to make fun of. :D Nah but really i don't care unless it's something like a super-goth gay clique. This one goth girl at my lunch deepthroats anything she can get into her throat. WTF! And this other chick looks like she puts powder on her face to look extra pale(either that or she's a serious coke head).

I mean a tight group of friends with common interests is ok but when you are in a clique because of image or status and not really there for being with each other it is kinda dumb. I would want a friend who liked me because i wore tight 100$ shirts like them. ( i don't btw)

Mr.Babalo

11-09-2005, 06:21 AM

I hate thugs. My best friend is half black, and i have black friends. There's a difference between a black person and a thug. Quite frankly, i think all thugs should "BURN IN THE LAKE OF BRIMSTONE"-Revelations. Honesty, they are the only clique in Canada that will ALWAYS ask you for food, money, and food.

REAL EXAMPLES:
1. Eating pizza with a friend in the cafeteria. Soon lunch is over, and the pizza slice is still in my hand(half-eatened, cheese gone) and i head out the door. All of a sudden some thug got off his chair so fast, that the chair fell, n then screams "YO U GONNA THROW THAT?! HOOK UPS YO!"

i'm not too sure about this part, but i could have sworn the chair hit his g/f in the face, causing a big gash on her cranial region; fatally bleeding her to death... FOR A HALF-EATEN PIZZA SLICE WITH THE CHEESE GONE.

2. Heres another pizza story. I'm heading to class with a box of pizza i just ordered from dominos and guess which clique asks me for "hook ups". Yep. Fuckin thugs. The bombard me with bloody flippin' "hook ups;bust me a piece;berrrrraps;Yoyo! u gonna eat all that??" It's like they all live in poverty.

3. I ordered wendis to go, and headed to pick up a friend after her law class, when i get up the stairs, these 2 thugs go, "yo, lemme some of dat fries, yo". I honestly didn't have fries, i got the baked potato to go, so i said "no i dont have fries..."

(here it comes...)

2 thugs: "TSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssss"

-_-, at that moment i wanted to whipe my asswith the baked potato n shove it down their throat.